Drug Trafficing
Immigrant Trafficing
Child Rapists
Armed Robbery
Forcible Rape
Attempted Murder

feel free to add

6/7/2006 6:20:39 PM

Rape/Murder/Terrorism [/thread]

6/7/2006 6:22:43 PM

Drug Trafficing
Immigrant Trafficing slavery/forced labor
Child Rapists
Armed Robbery
Forcible Rape
Attempted Murder

6/7/2006 6:28:48 PM

Drug Trafficing
Immigrant Trafficing
Child Rapists
Armed Robbery
Forcible Rape
Attempted Murder

Rape/Murder/Terrorism

6/7/2006 7:15:31 PM

War Crimes

6/7/2006 7:20:14 PM

I can't believe you listed drug trafficking.

And I'm with boonedocks on this one...

6/7/2006 7:20:19 PM

I never really understood why attempted murder isn't punishable by death. If you demonstrate an intent to commit certain types of crime, it is unacceptably likely that, at some point, it will come back with greater success.

I also agree with drug traffickers, human traffickers, forcible rapists, certain kinds of sex offender, and "terrorists" getting the needle.

6/7/2006 7:23:24 PM

Drug trafficing? WTF

6/7/2006 7:30:29 PM

anybody who doesnt think raping a child deserves death

remind me never to let you babysit my kids

6/7/2006 7:34:47 PM

because if you dont believe in the death penalty for child rapists....you will rape a child??

for the record...child rapists should die

6/7/2006 7:44:12 PM

no but...

6/7/2006 7:45:08 PM

Quote :

"anybody who doesnt think raping a child deserves death remind me never to let you babysit my kids"

I don't support state-sanctioned executions.

But I would find it hard to condemn a man who followed your "Big Tree taking care of anyone who fucks with Little Tree Junior" idea.

6/7/2006 8:00:47 PM

so you're saying you wouldn't be for the death penalty against the child molester, but you also wouldn't be against the death penalty for a father, for example, who takes revenge into his own hands to try and make right the wrong done to his child? fair enough

6/7/2006 8:02:56 PM

fraud and conspiracy

6/7/2006 8:12:07 PM

haha

marko's still mad about the t-shirts those guys were selling with his wolf on it

6/7/2006 8:49:58 PM

Rape/Murder/Terrorism [/thread]

6/7/2006 8:51:09 PM

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"Drug trafficing? WTF"

Because trafficking is at the root of a great many problems in society. It's got fingers in organized crime and is largely responsible for decay in our inner cities. Drug users are just the symptom. No point in killing them. I want to kill the sources.

6/7/2006 8:57:34 PM

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"Because trafficking is at the root of a great many problems in society. It's got fingers in organized crime and is largely responsible for decay in our inner cities. Drug users are just the symptom. No point in killing them. I want to kill the sources."

Hmmm..how could we solve this problem otherwise? I suggest legalizing drugs of all kinds and providing rehabilitation for those who want it. I suspect this route maybe cheaper (and freer) than what we have going right now.

The only problem I've faced in my consideration of this issue is this: where would the drugs be sold? People don't even like ABC stores in their neighborhood, let alone heroin and crack stores.





And my less liberal point of view involves jailing drug traffickers, not killing them. We all know that the death penalty is not a deterrent, especially considering the huge monetary gains that come with the transportation of highly illegal drugs. Perhaps we should start a war on materialism to put an end to crimes that involve making huge sums of money...wait a minute, our entire economy is based on materialism...

[Edited on June 7, 2006 at 9:46 PM. Reason : sss]

6/7/2006 9:39:47 PM

when people lie about stuff they are selling on the internet then don't ship it for weeks and over charge you on shipping.

6/7/2006 9:45:57 PM

Nothing.

6/7/2006 9:49:05 PM

you have to kill someone to be killed

6/7/2006 10:18:51 PM

Quote :

"Because trafficking is at the root of a great many problems in society. It's got fingers in organized crime and is largely responsible for decay in our inner cities. Drug users are just the symptom. No point in killing them. I want to kill the sources."

if drugs were legal in the first place, there wouldn't be any trafficking



[Edited on June 7, 2006 at 10:39 PM. Reason : asdf]

6/7/2006 10:37:32 PM

Sure there would.

It'd just be called "commerce," would stimulate the economy, partially fund the government's wreckless spending, and GrumpyGOP would be all in favor of it.

6/7/2006 10:50:26 PM

Marijuana is such a social ill!

Hold on let me take my hands off the keyboard so I can wring them some.

6/7/2006 10:54:35 PM

Marijuana traffickers should be given the gas chamber!!1

6/7/2006 11:15:59 PM

Quote :

"I never really understood why attempted murder isn't punishable by death."

The same reason we don't lock-up for life drunk drivers that hit nothing but trees.
The same reason we don't lock-up for life speeders that never actually caused a wreck.
The same reason we don't sue people that let their front porch freeze over when no one has actually slipped and broke a limb.

All these activities might kill people, and we know that before we do them, but we expect the punishment to fit the crime and most of the time no one gets hurt. But using your logic either people will get locked up for minor infractions (broken tail-light, might cause an accidental death) or you will need to lower the punishments for the real crimes. Either way, it won't make sense to people regardless of how "logical" it is.

6/7/2006 11:16:20 PM

Being Poor.

6/7/2006 11:16:53 PM

we should actually outlaw cars, guns, cigarrettes, fast food, violent video games, the internet, forks, and rap music

those who traffick them should be executed!

6/7/2006 11:18:12 PM

To think some drugs cannot be consumed responsibly is just foolish. If anything, some are less dangerous and less addictive then alcohol, but have been demonized by society. I agree that by legalizing some drugs it will remove the problems associated with a black market. But untill then it is better to work to eliminate the suppliers.

6/7/2006 11:36:59 PM

and ban rap

6/7/2006 11:37:38 PM

Quote :

"The same reason we don't lock-up for life drunk drivers that hit nothing but trees. The same reason we don't lock-up for life speeders that never actually caused a wreck. The same reason we don't sue people that let their front porch freeze over when no one has actually slipped and broke a limb. "

Oh come on. Attempted Murder is an actualy malicious attempt on someone's life. The fact that it was attempted and not Murder 1 is because the guy just sucks at aiming or strangling or whatever other reason caused him to fail in his attempt at murder. It's nothing at all like a drunk driver hitting a tree.

6/7/2006 11:40:04 PM

Pedophiles and repeat child molesters
Rapists of all kinds, any kind of sex act
Murders, 1st or 2nd, not attempted murder unless on mass scale...
Terrorists, attempted or otherwise
War crimes, crimes against humanity
DUI resulting in others dying
Treason only if a resulting directly in deaths
anyone belonging to a gang, org. crime, or cartel.


either by Firing Squad, or Hanging for the worst of the worst; forget this lethal injection crap.

(may add more later)

6/8/2006 12:00:32 AM

being a republican

[Edited on June 8, 2006 at 1:44 AM. Reason : omg paradox!]

6/8/2006 1:44:24 AM

underage drinking

6/8/2006 2:35:19 AM

Quote :

"Because trafficking is at the root of a great many problems in society. It's got fingers in organized crime and is largely responsible for decay in our inner cities. Drug users are just the symptom. No point in killing them. I want to kill the sources."

I think you have an exaggerated view of drug trafficking. Im pretty sure the majority of "traffickers" are not indecent people otherwise or have nothing to do with organized crime.

But what I would really like to point out that drug traffickers are not directly responsible for drug murders and inner city decay. It is the murderer's decision whether or not he murders people. Drug trafficking can be done without harming anyone and Traffickers are not responsible for the actions of addicts.

Also, "inner city decay" and "organized crime" are vague, unquanitfiable entities. Does a man who once sold cigarettes to a couple middle schoolers deserve a lengthy prison term for "contributing to the general delinquency of our nations youth"? What about the doctor who is a little too hasty to perscribe antibiotics? Should he be held responsible in court for the deaths caused by highly mutated flu viruses?

[Edited on June 8, 2006 at 4:00 AM. Reason : .]

6/8/2006 3:48:25 AM

I think that all it really boils down to is that we have different definitions of "traffickers."

I'm not talking about Billy Bob that sells a little pot in his spare time. I'm talking about Pable Escobar, who has made it his business. I'm certain we could find a line to differentiate the two.

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"It is the murderer's decision whether or not he murders people."

Not entirely. Unless, that is, you can prove to me that certain hard drugs do not interfere with one's judgement.

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"Traffickers are not responsible for the actions of addicts."

Wrong. If you sell people something that makes them act a fool, you are liable. You can look to our own pharmaceutical industry for that.

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"Also, "inner city decay" and "organized crime" are vague, unquanitfiable entities."

No, they aren't. "Organized crime" has a particularly clear definition, and while "inner city decay" may not, it doesn't take a goddamn expert to realize that our cities went from bad to unbelievably fucking worse only after the introduction of certain hard drugs.

6/8/2006 7:14:50 AM

Quote :

"Oh come on. Attempted Murder is an actually malicious attempt on some one's life. "

I see that, I was merely pointing out the usefulness of double standards.

If you are reckless, such as by drunk driving, and cause an accident and kill four people you go to prison for up to 25 years. Conversely, if you are reckless, also by drunk driving, and cause an accident and kill a tree you lose your license and get probation (depends on the state).

The difference is that you got lucky and didn't kill anyone. You are still a danger to society, clearly you are a risk for repeat offenses.

Attempted murderer is exactly the same, you got lucky and didn't kill anyone. You are still a danger to society, clearly you are a risk for repeat offenses.

6/8/2006 8:31:16 AM

jaywalking
not wearing seatbelt
insider trading
stealing milkcrates from outside of Fountain Dining Hall
bttt'ing old threads
html abuse
public urination
sneezing and farting at the same time
violating the Raleigh noise ordinances
not using your blinker



[Edited on June 8, 2006 at 9:52 AM. Reason : lets stop dilly dallying around and make some real changes]

6/8/2006 9:47:55 AM

Quote :

"Wrong. If you sell people something that makes them act a fool, you are liable. You can look to our own pharmaceutical industry for that. "

You are not wholely responsible for that person's actions, and should not bear the full punishment for their crimes. Death is not a partial punishment in any case.

Quote :

"Not entirely. Unless, that is, you can prove to me that certain hard drugs do not interfere with one's judgement. "

Drugs dont force people to kill. Therefore, traffickers are not fully responsible for an addicts actions. Im not saying they dont deserve a significant prison sentence, but trafficking =/ killing.

Quote :

"I'm not talking about Billy Bob that sells a little pot in his spare time. I'm talking about Pable Escobar, who has made it his business. I'm certain we could find a line to differentiate the two. No, they aren't. "Organized crime" has a particularly clear definition, and while "inner city decay" may not, it doesn't take a goddamn expert to realize that our cities went from bad to unbelievably fucking worse only after the introduction of certain hard drugs. "

You'll have to make it a more distinct line. Are we only talking about traffickers of "hard" drugs now? How much drugs does a person have to sell to be a trafficker deserving of death? Are we ruling out the street seller, who receives a 6-ounce bag of coke to push every couple weeks? Thats 95% of traffickers right there. At what point is someone liable in court for blight?

[Edited on June 8, 2006 at 11:02 AM. Reason : .]

6/8/2006 10:55:24 AM

GrumpyGOP, the death penalty would especially not be a deterrent in the case of drug trafficking because there is so much money to be made in the illegal drug arena. So why would anybody suggest executing traffickers, particularly the small-timers?

(Question about trafficking: those people who swallow balloons and shit, but aren't actually involved in the trade or sale, are they traffickers or what?)

[Edited on June 8, 2006 at 11:48 AM. Reason : sss]

6/8/2006 11:41:25 AM

passing unconstitutional laws

6/8/2006 11:50:23 AM

The only crimes that should be punishable by death are crimes of intended murder.

Hear me out---of course I'm not saying that raping a child or rape of any sort is admissable (hope thats how u spell it) but some people are really mentally sick and let their mind influence their actions. And if that doesn't help, shouldn't someone who rapes a child or rapes anyone, really be punished?

The death penalty isn't really a punishment for rape its instantaneous and takes years of trial and death row, they should really sufffer for the rest of their life in jail where they have to worried about being rape and die lonely. DP should only be used for someone who takes a life intentionally --an eye for an eye u know.

6/8/2006 12:37:55 PM

there are some vengeful mofos in this thread, thats for sure

6/8/2006 12:50:11 PM

Quote :

"an eye for an eye u know."

So...how'd you get that gift of discernment to decide which archaic Biblical laws you'll follow and which you wont'?

6/8/2006 1:04:46 PM

jesus died for his sins

6/8/2006 1:29:41 PM

I dunno. Obviously the wording "eye for an eye" is Biblical, but otherwise, the concept isn't Biblical.

I mean, revenge is not just a religious concept.

6/8/2006 1:37:46 PM

Quote :

"Hear me out---of course I'm not saying that raping a child or rape of any sort is admissable (hope thats how u spell it) but some people are really mentally sick and let their mind influence their actions."

ahahahahahaha, anyone else laugh at that?

I can tell you for sure that u is 100% absolutely the wrong way to spell you. I used to use 'u' and 'r' on the internet. But that's when I was 13... no wait, I didn't even do it then.

This is the soapbox... please shape up.

6/8/2006 1:41:01 PM

^^ell...that could be debated....if you look at the old testement

yeah i got it down...haha



[Edited on June 8, 2006 at 1:45 PM. Reason : asdf]

6/8/2006 1:41:22 PM

^ good job on the use of 'you.' People could and should learn from you.

6/8/2006 1:42:41 PM

IMO

Murder
Repeated Forcible Rapes
Repeated Child Molestation
Attending Britney Spears concert "for the music"

6/8/2006 2:03:13 PM