http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13046631/ Looks pretty cool

5/30/2006 6:19:13 PM

i passed one on the side of the road this past weekend around burlington..

except it was completely black.. it had lights in the rear window...

5/30/2006 6:35:42 PM

^ I saw that one too

5/30/2006 6:50:12 PM

Quote :

"Motorists heading home at the end of the Memorial Day weekend also felt safer with the increased presence of the Highway Patrol on the roads. "I've been pretty safe out on the road because you've got police on the road that are slowing down traffic," said Gerald Jackson, of Maryland. "I've seen about five cars that got stopped.""

That's total BS

5/30/2006 7:03:48 PM

Quote :

"The North Carolina State Highway Patrol has added a fuel-efficient weapon to its arsenal to battle speeders"

it gets low 20's
and im sure as a patrol car is into the teens

i guess for american cars that is fuel efficient

5/30/2006 8:21:14 PM

Quote :

"it gets low 20's and im sure as a patrol car is into the teens i guess for american cars that is fuel efficient"

did you even read the article - or are you just assuming you know everything

5/30/2006 8:24:23 PM

the fact that it shuts down cylinders is how it is able to get those awesome figures of 20something mpg

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : idget]

5/30/2006 8:29:03 PM

post the link to where you are getting those made up #s from please

5/30/2006 8:31:27 PM

http://www.google.com
http://www.thefuckinginternetnoob.com


here
http://www.epa.gov/emissweb/E-DODGE-Charger-06.htm

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 8:36 PM. Reason : .]

5/30/2006 8:33:04 PM

there was an unmarked black one at the lot on blue ridge. they are also fielding Tahoes, but they are marked.

5/30/2006 8:35:48 PM

Guess this is their replacement for the B4C Camaro's they were using.

Interesting that they both get pretty much the same fuel mileage. The Camaro even got 1 mpg better than the Charger does. Is it just the weight difference you think? I mean the Camaro weighed less and is more sleek, so you would think it would handle better. The Charger at least has a backseat though, so the officer doesn't have to wait for backup to arrive to take away guys he's arresting. But it has to make up for that difference in size by having a 5-speed auto instead of a 4-speed and having to cut off half the cylinders in most conditions. But it is able to be almost as fast (half a second longer to 60) and almost equal it in fuel mileage and still offer a lot more room, so in the end it probably will turn out to be a better car for standard NCHP use. In a highspeed chase though, I'd damn sure rather have the Z28 myself.

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 8:51 PM. Reason : ]

5/30/2006 8:50:09 PM

Quote :

" here http://www.epa.gov/emissweb/E-DODGE-Charger-06.htm "

25 mpg highway is not bad for a 5.7 liter pushrod v8, so seriously, make informed statements before you post and make yourself look like a douche.

5/30/2006 9:02:10 PM

well it wont ever be getting 25mpg
and 25mpg isnt fuel-efficient no matter how you cut it

5/30/2006 9:17:06 PM

it is when you drive a vehicle that averages 12.

5/30/2006 9:21:18 PM

granted, 25mpg is not fuel efficient, but you dont get a v8, or a car with high performance, be it a 4, 6, or 8 and retain good gas mileage.

5/30/2006 9:22:47 PM

yeah, and if they had not called it a fuel efficient car i would have just commented on it looking badass

but they did

[Edited on May 30, 2006 at 9:23 PM. Reason : holy commas batman ]

5/30/2006 9:23:38 PM

From what I hear they are phasing out the vics...which get about 10 with the idling they do in them, hell i be the chargers only get 15 or so with all the time they will spend just sitting...

5/30/2006 9:31:52 PM

if so, then ford needs to step up the mpg on them, because I would say 80% of vic sales are cops.

5/30/2006 9:35:46 PM

theres no reason that every cop needs a large v8 powered car

5/30/2006 9:36:08 PM

^Bingo.

Cops with vehicles that have high hp/weight ratios are just a bad idea. How many more speeders are they really going to catch with more power? As for the 'economy' of these models, give me a break, the 'shutting down' cylinders is not efficient at all, especially since those cylinders are still doing the work of pulling air in, compressing it, and pushing it back out, not to mention the valve train, and the pistons, and related drag (con rods, friction on crank, wristpins, etc).
Ahmet

5/30/2006 9:46:11 PM

Quote :

"From what I hear they are phasing out the vics."

Ford is also suppose to stop making them in the near future.


RPD is going to the Toyota Echo pretty soon

5/30/2006 10:28:53 PM

i'd say 360hp is probably needed especially with the way cars are going as far as power - hell the new camry v6 has just shy of 270hp

5/30/2006 10:36:05 PM

^^ ahahahaha


Cary PD has about 100 Priuses on order

5/30/2006 10:45:42 PM

I'd wave at the mofo's as I flew by in my fuel inefficient pushrod V8. What the fuck they gonna do, box you in with those shitboxes??

The Prius I respect a slight bit more, but still this shit is crazy. They at least need like midsize vehicles ala Pontiac G6 or something along those lines. I think going to an Echo is a bit extreme and just stupid.

I can hardly wait to see them try to pull people in those tincan Echo's on the beltline. Imagine crotch rocket on beltline vs. 50 Toyota Echos. Bike = winnar.

5/30/2006 10:48:03 PM

sarcasm, d00d

5/30/2006 10:48:40 PM

the crown vics are about 230 hp and get 18 mpg on the road.

5/30/2006 10:49:07 PM

they had an article in the N&O today about the new charger, had a breakdown of milage and HP of some of the cars being used as cruisers, the Crown Vic, Charger, Impala and PT Cruiser (used by holly springs SRO's)... was just a neat blurb... neat to see this rumor has come true... heard last year they were looking to the charger for patrol.

I know that RPD uses crown vics pretty much exclusivley, most others in the area have other makes as well, Cary PD uses alot of Impalas, Holly Springs has just about everything including PT Cruisers, Escapes, Cherokee's. Apex has some Cherokee's, crown vics, impalas and even a Prowler. most others around have a good mix of crown vics and impalas. I know that WSO uses crown vics and durangos...

It's just interesting to see what different LE agencies in the same area use for patrol vehicles.

5/30/2006 10:56:49 PM

Quote :

"This year, the department [RPD] is getting 11 Impalas and 11 Ford 500's. Both models are cheaper than the Crown Victorias"

http://rdu.news14.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=83799

5/30/2006 10:58:59 PM

Quote :

" $140,000 gallons a month "

thats some expensive ass gas

5/30/2006 11:26:57 PM

Is it me or does comparing MPG for a vehicle that spends most of its time idling kind of pointless? Wouldn't a comparison of daily fuel consumption be better?

5/30/2006 11:34:32 PM

dodge dealers are having trouble getting rid of this junk

5/30/2006 11:38:04 PM

^ Ive seen a bunch of the daytona R/T versions still in the lot lately

5/30/2006 11:46:30 PM

still aint skeered...

5/31/2006 1:56:30 AM

Quote :

"I mean the Camaro weighed less and is more sleek, so you would think it would handle better."

live axle though

5/31/2006 9:52:42 AM

yay, at least they will save money while wasting our tax money idling around


and have some performance for when they drive carelessly and wrecklessly and speed while chasing the guy down to give him a ticket for 7 over

5/31/2006 11:56:38 AM

Saw one that pulled someone on I-85 two days ago. One stick ass car, I'd be scared if I saw that coming up behind me with lights on and sirens blazing...

5/31/2006 7:24:53 PM

put the traffic cops on liter bikes

radio for the minivan if they need to arrest someone

6/1/2006 9:52:08 AM

I just looked at something John H Guth, while 25mpg is not stellar, the dodge charger, ford mustang, and chevrolet corvette, and Chevrolet Impala including the 7.0L v8, all recieve better gas mileage than the v6 BMW m3 for 2005-2006 model years.

Highway Mileage:

Dodge Charger 5.7 L V8: 25mpg
Ford Mustang 4.6 L v8: 25mpg
Chevrolet Impala 5.3L v8: 28 mpg
Chevrolet Corvette 6.0L v8 or 7.0 v8: 6L= 28 mpg 7L=26 mpg



BMW M3 3.2L V6: 23 Mpg

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 12:47 AM. Reason : .]

6/13/2006 12:46:19 AM

Quote :

" As for the 'economy' of these models, give me a break, the 'shutting down' cylinders is not efficient at all, especially since those cylinders are still doing the work of pulling air in, compressing it, and pushing it back out, "

thats not the case as they hold the exhaust valve open for he timebeing i beleive

Quote :

"not to mention the valve train, and related drag (con rods, friction on crank, wristpins, etc)."

that's still true

6/13/2006 1:03:20 AM

^^ thats an inline six in the m3 mr. know-it-all

6/13/2006 1:15:31 AM

oh whoops:

BMW M3 3.2L I6: 23 Mpg

6/13/2006 1:23:22 AM

lol

6/13/2006 1:33:51 AM

its getting harder these days to beat the radio, but not impossible.

Still waiting on the crotch rocket biker cops...

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 2:49 AM. Reason : ]

6/13/2006 2:46:18 AM

who suggested cops drive an m3?
if they were going to use a bmw it wouldnt be an m3, please google bmw authority vehicles

god you are retarded

6/13/2006 6:51:01 AM

I did not suggest cops drive M3s, I know you are a BMW advocate, so I was just informing you that the "god awful" gas mileage of the Chargers v8 actually beats that of everyone's favorite car.

and I did google it, the only references are an article about a submachinegun holder in a 5-series security edition and all the BMW bikes the cops use. so lets say that they use a 5-series.

Available engines and gas mileage:

3.0L I6 variation 1: AWD- 27mpg RWD- 30 mpg
3.0L I6 variation 2: AWD- 27 mpg RWD-29mpg
4.8L v8: 25mpg

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 8:29 AM. Reason : Big Money Waster]

6/13/2006 8:20:33 AM

& how many mpg do you get in your GT sir

6/13/2006 8:27:32 AM

If Im lucky, 25

6/13/2006 8:30:19 AM

what about the m3 made you think the car was about mpg

but thanks for pointing out that a performance german car is on par with a fuel effecient american one

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 9:32 AM. Reason : j]

6/13/2006 9:08:44 AM

They'd be a lot more badass in 300C's.

6/13/2006 10:52:03 AM

Quote :

"but thanks for pointing out that a performance german car is on par with an american sports/super car "

[Edited on June 13, 2006 at 11:41 AM. Reason : Fixed it for you John]

6/13/2006 11:41:08 AM