He thinks our fanbase whines!! I guess this is a popular opinion for some reason..

4/5/2006 5:53:35 PM

wilbon nailed it on the head.

4/5/2006 5:55:57 PM

yep...

4/5/2006 5:56:25 PM

GD

4/5/2006 5:56:50 PM

Why is anyone surprised by this type of response from the media?

4/5/2006 5:57:06 PM

A storied program thats been in the shitter for years, and every time you see a college basketball commercial there's valvano running onto the floor or that famous airball getting dunked.....Yeah, we have no right to want to be the best, yet we have our great history rubbed in our face every fucking day.


All of these news outlets can suck my dick. When they stop showing the 83 team and talking about the 74 teams upset over UCLA I'll fucking stop whining. Fuck all of them.

4/5/2006 5:57:46 PM

Quote :

"A storied program thats been in the shitter for years,"

You're the reason herb left, and the reason we won't have a winning season next year

4/5/2006 5:59:58 PM

think nebraska or oklahoma doesn't complain if they have a bad football season? hell no, they bitch like crazy. this is basketball country. so how are we not supposed to whine.

4/5/2006 6:01:04 PM

^ i mean, yeah

but still, their viewpoint is that that was forever ago, which it was. and we havent done SHIT in forever. so they expect us to not expect anything.

basically, ncstate fans view our program differently than anyone. when we say 2 time national champs, people go "When?" and talk about how lucky we were in 1983.

maybe its a little bit of both from both sides, we think we are a big time bball school, they think we shouldnt expect the world.


i tend to agree with wanting more from our program. goddammit.

GIVE ME RICK BARNES

4/5/2006 6:01:51 PM

God damnit i wish you stupid fuckers would stop taking one line out of a paragraph and out of hundreds of posts and pretending like i've been a Herb hater. I was pissed at herb for about 3 days after we lost to wake the second time, then I got over it and I was furious that he left.


Now, you have to look at it like it is. We're not at the top, so just go ahead and assume we're in the shitter. This situation puts us in the shitter. Me saying we're in the shitter doesnt mean I think herb had us in the shitter. We're fucked as of right now, and the media doesnt want us to get a good coach either. Shut the fuck up and quit trolling for a while, and just hope we are able to land someone good. You're not goingto get herb back you fucking cry baby. Just hope NC State doesnt go back hell like it was before he got here.

4/5/2006 6:05:05 PM

^^what? Are you saying we had a bad season last year?

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 6:05 PM. Reason : ]

4/5/2006 6:05:19 PM

actually, you'd be surprised at what people immediately think of with NCSTATE..

unicorns,lollipops,meadows,fairies,rainbows...etc

the list goes on, but unicorns dont sound all that bad too me

^hell no im not sayin we had a bad season

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 6:07 PM. Reason : ^]

4/5/2006 6:07:06 PM

You know whats horrible about this whole situation is that we're going to have to wait until our next coach gets fired before our fanbase can truely be united.

All the Herb "Haters" will be in support of the new coach while the "Supporters" will intrinsicly "hate" him.

So we have the same shit, just reversed.

4/5/2006 6:18:39 PM

the herb supporters are more likely to support the new coach and distance themselves from the dumb fans

4/5/2006 6:20:21 PM

i'm a herb supporter and i'm looking forward to supporting our new coach

4/5/2006 6:20:44 PM

Not me, I wanted Herb to stay and I liked him. But he's gone.

I hate Rick Barnes personally but if he is named coach he'll have my full support...

4/5/2006 6:20:48 PM

i was a huge herb supporter and i had a feeling he would leave anyway after being treated like shit

that said, i would be thrilled to have a big name coach at State to unite the fan base and bring home some championships

realistically though, i think we are going to suck for a while because there are simply no coaches who want to come here that can do the aforementioned

we will not run off our next coach, he will be fired after about 3 losing seasons

4/5/2006 6:29:27 PM

Quote :

"dont you realize that despite all of the money that we have to "throw" at a new coach, our "fans" including many on this website, are the reason that a big time coach will never come here. the same ones who claim to want the best for NC State are ultimately the ones making it worse. "

4/5/2006 6:29:47 PM

Herb is Gone...Best Semester of my life..and No one can overturn that or make me feel about Herbie leaving...Laterz Herbert


III

4/5/2006 6:37:57 PM

Does the University of San Francisco bitch this much? i mean, theyve got 2 NC's too.

4/5/2006 6:52:39 PM

^Hahaa. PWNT.

This one needs to be repeated again in each thread:

Quote :

"dont you realize that despite all of the money that we have to "throw" at a new coach, our "fans" including many on this website, are the reason that a big time coach will never come here. the same ones who claim to want the best for NC State are ultimately the ones making it worse."

4/5/2006 7:06:30 PM

those were in the 50's so they aren't respected nearly as much as any in the 60's+
two words
bill russell

4/5/2006 7:07:13 PM

k well we havent won a title in over 21 years

and still cincinatti has more of a respectful program than we do and they won in the 60s

4/5/2006 7:10:45 PM

FUCK THEM TV FAGGZZZ

GO PACK #1 4-EVER

NCSU WILL BE CHAMPS THX 2 HERB GONE

4/5/2006 7:14:57 PM

Quote :

"Why is anyone surprised by this type of response from the media?"

maybe because it is true. it is great to want the best but you dont treat people IRL like shit the way the fans treated coach sendek. he did a great job no matter what you faggots think. he ran a clean program and did big things to turn our program around.

i was in school for the les era and talk about being shitty. at least you guys had winning seasons and shit while in school. now granted, i did get to see us beat the big 4 in reynolds but compared to no winning season / i would take winning seasons every year. try watching your season end with no post season play AT ALL or losing in the NIT.

Year  	Seed  	Round 	Opponent 	Score  	 
2005 	10 	Round 1 	Charlotte 	75-63 	W
Round 2 	Connecticut 	65-62 	W
Round 3 - Sweet Sixteen 	Wisconsin 	56-65 	L
 
2004 	3 	Round 1 	LA Lafayette 	61-52 	W
Round 2 	Vanderbilt 	73-75 	L
 
2003 	9 	Round 1 	California 	74-76 (OT) 	L
 
2002 	7 	Round 1 	Michigan State 	69-58 	W
Round 2 	Connecticut 	74-77 	L
 
2001 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
2000 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
1999 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
1998 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
1997 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
1996 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
1995 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
1994 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---
 
1993 	  	Did not receive a bid 	------ 	------ 	---

4/5/2006 7:20:34 PM

^
I <3 Gunzz...finally someone with an ounce of reason.

Quote :

"Not me, I wanted Herb to stay and I liked him. But he's gone. I hate Rick Barnes personally but if he is named coach he'll have my full support..."

Quote :

"i was a huge herb supporter and i had a feeling he would leave anyway after being treated like shit that said, i would be thrilled to have a big name coach at State to unite the fan base and bring home some championships realistically though, i think we are going to suck for a while because there are simply no coaches who want to come here that can do the aforementioned we will not run off our next coach, he will be fired after about 3 losing seasons"

I wish Herb the best, don't blame him at all for leaving. If it weren't my alma mater I'd run away from the disease known as "State's fan base" immediately

4/5/2006 7:44:48 PM

he shoulda left after he won coach of the year since our fans were just as ungrateful then

i wish him the best at ASU even though im a huge UofA fan

4/5/2006 7:50:20 PM

Quote :

"i wish him the best at ASU even though im a huge UofA fan"

So am I. In the thread about favorite coaches, I had Herb first and Lute Olsen 2nd.

I dunno who I will pull for. Maybe they can split every year.

4/5/2006 7:51:54 PM

^^agreed
^ I like Olsen too

The attitudes presented (especially on this message board) blow me away. Reminding me of how stupid most people really are.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 7:52 PM. Reason : added]

4/5/2006 7:51:59 PM

Yeah, nothing more than an once of reason.

<pussy>
OMF, we were really shitty and became less shitty. Let's not try to get better than that, though, because we could do worse, again! </ pussy>

4/5/2006 7:54:16 PM

^^you're stupid


cause the attitudes expressed on tww are not necessarily representative of what people think. If you had a conversation with 99 percent of the people on here in real life, you'd find out that we're all close in opinion, we're just slightly on one side or the other of the fence.

That little difference is used by everyone to troll, so if you think TWW is representative of our fan base, you're stupid.

[Edited on April 5, 2006 at 7:56 PM. Reason : ]

4/5/2006 7:55:43 PM

Herb is going to make a lot of noise next year in the Pac 10

I don't see his team winning the regular season, but I would not be surprised at all to see ASU in the NCAAs or even winning the Pac-10 tourney

4/5/2006 7:57:22 PM

hahahahahahahahahaha

4/5/2006 7:58:07 PM

can anyone even name an ASU player? they arent going to do jack shit

4/5/2006 7:59:51 PM

Quote :

"can anyone even name an ASU player? they arent going to do jack shit"

4/5/2006 8:01:44 PM

Quote :

"I don't see his team winning the regular season, but I would not be surprised at all to see ASU in the NCAAs or even winning the Pac-10 tourney"

Yall amaze me.

4/5/2006 8:02:33 PM

Quote :

"can anyone even name an ASU player? they arent going to do jack shit"

Nobody knew Justin Gainey, Danny Strong, Jeremy Hyatt either and yet Herb rode them to the ACC championship game and a 17-15 record his first year here.

Let's just see what happens. ASU went what 11-17 this year?

4/5/2006 8:03:46 PM

[no]

4/5/2006 8:06:49 PM

if the media had it the way they wanted it, the same teams would be top notch EVERY year except for a cinderella runner every now and then. Its fuckin bullshit that they believe we should just sit back and be happy being a middle of the fucking ACC team every year and gettin bounced in the 2nd round of the NCAA's. Excuse me if id like to see my team and alma mater in the final four every now and then.

4/5/2006 8:35:02 PM

if we get barnes or calipari, we will have a winning season next year

4/5/2006 8:36:40 PM

^as opposed to?

4/5/2006 8:41:28 PM

Quote :

"Nobody knew Justin Gainey, Danny Strong, Jeremy Hyatt either and yet Herb rode them to the ACC championship game and a 17-15 record his first year here."

Quote :

"Jack shit"

4/5/2006 8:52:43 PM

How is that jack shit???

17-15 and in the ACC Final after what 6 consecutive losing seasons. If he has a .500 record or better next year, he will have done an outstanding job.

4/5/2006 9:01:46 PM

^^i don't know

i was just saying that to the post that said we will have a losing record next year and didn't specify who the new coach would be

i would say if we get larranaga (sp?) we would not have a winning record next year being his first year in the acc

4/5/2006 9:07:58 PM

Add this to the fire...from a Wake board.
CLASSIC:

There has been a lot of speculation in other threads about who might become NC State's new head coach. Well this information should be helpful: I have obtained the official NC State booster club's list of potential coaches, and the odds of each guy becoming the new coach, as they see it.

Potential Candidate, Odds that we choose him for the job, and Pros and Cons:

John Wooden: 2-1. Pros: Won a lot in the past, almost as much as NC State. Obviously would jump at the chance to coach a perennial powerhouse like NC State. Cons: Old. Hasn't won much recently, should we settle for that?

Mike Kryszewski: 3-1. Pros: Would clearly jump at the chance to move up to a higher visibility program. Intimidates refs, so we would get all the calls with him. Cons: Is Satan.

Dean Smith: 4-1. Pros: Understands the biggest rivalry in sports, NC State/Carolina. We would get all the calls if we had him. Cons: Rarely won the big one, we can do better. Also evil.

Adolph Rupp: 5-1. Pros: won a lot in the past, almost as much as NC State. Would appeal to rednecks in fanbase, which is just about everyone. Cons: dead.

Red Auerbach: 6-1: Pros: Won a lot in the NBA. Smoking cigars would go over well with tobacco state's fanbase. Cons: Unproven at the college level.

Jim Calhoun: 6-1. Pros: would love to move up to this job, wins a lot, no problem with players getting caught stealing stuff. Cons: Connecticut Yankee.

Bob Knight: 7-1. Pros: Would obviously take the job in a heartbeat. Fans would enjoy his lively personality and humor. Cons: hasn't won enough to be considered a leading candidate for a job this important. Possible backup plan if first choices don't interview well.

Pat Riley: 7-1. Pros: would fit in well in cosmopolitan world capital like Raleigh. Cons: Unproven at college level. Hasn't won anything in a long time, we don't want to be living in the past.

Phil Jackson: 8-1. Pros: Won a lot, would take the job in a second, no doubt. Cons: pseudo-intellectualism would turn off good ol' boy fanbase.

Les Robinson: 10-1. Pros: Experience with the job. Possibly the cleanest coach in NC State history. Cons: Possibly the cleanest coach in NC State history.

Terrell Owens: 11-1. Pros: well known, probably be a good recruiter with today's young athletes. Would love to take the job. Cons: Unproven in basketball.

Barry Bonds: 11-1. Pros: Could advise players on body-building routine. We would have the strongest team in the country. Cons: Too easygoing and friendly for this tough job.

Jim Valvano Jr.: 12-1. Pros: descended from greatest coach in history of sports, would probably inherit the winning magic that his father had. Cons: doesn't exist.

Everett Case: 15-1. Pros: Experience in the job. Cons: never won the big one. We need someone who can take us to the next level, not some retread.

Cozell McQueen: 16-1. Pros: Won it all at NC State. Cons: never coached. Has a weird bumpy thing on his shoulder.

Chris Washburn: 17-1. Pros: Knows all about NC State basketball. Cons: Too likely to get caught, not good at getting away with stuff. Might be in jail.

Bill Gates: 18-1. Pros: No doubt he would want the job. Very successful in his field. Experienced at putting rivals out of business. Cons: Too geeky.

Dick Vitale: 20-1. Pros: excitable, well known. Cons: would lose to Duke on purpose.

Digger Phelps: 20-1. Pros: well known in college basketball. Cons: tends to be wrong about everything.

Al Maguire: 21-1. Pros: good coach. His team stayed within 12 points of the greatest team in the history of sports in 1974 championship game. Cons: New York type. Also dead.

Eddie Sutton: 22-1. Pros: willing to do whatever it takes to win. Cons: might be a wimp once he gets out of rehab.

Norm Sloan: 23-1. Pros: won it all at NC State. Cons: hard to find the type of sport coats he prefers these days. Another retread, unable to win once he left the NC State program. Also dead.

Guy Lewis: 24-1. Pros: Good things happen to State when he's around. Cons: another dead guy.

Billy Donovan: 25-1. Pros: would obviously love to take the job. Cons: hasn't won it all yet. Do we want to settle for him when we could have his mentor, Pitino?

Rick Pitino: 25-1. Pros: big winner, except with Celtics. Obviously would want the job if offered. Cons: didn't even make the NCAAs this year, would be a step down from Sendek.

Rick Barnes: 25-1. Pros: local guy, yelled at Dean Smith. Would love to have a shot at this job. Cons: hasn't won enough to get such a prestigious job.

Jim Boeheim: 26-1. Pros: won a lot. Cons: glasses-wearing yankee wouldn't fly with fanbase.

Charles Shackelford: 27-1. Pros: Natural amphibious abilities would come in handy. Cons: might shave points.

Myron Piggie: 28-1. Pros: Our type of guy, good connections with recruits. Cons: no college coaching experience, might be in jail.

Drew Rosenhaus: 30-1. Pros: slick negotiator, would be a good recruiter. Cons: unproven as coach. Brags about players getting paid, needs to learn to keep it quiet.

Jerry Tarkanian: 30-1. Pros: good recruiter, has experience at dealing with our kind of players. Cons: Hasn't been caught in a while, is he still willing to do what it takes?

Bob Staak: 35-1. Pros: ACC experience, good things happen to State when he's coaching. Good buddy of Valvano. Cons: Valvano loved him when he coached and recruited against NC State, not for NC State.

Roy Williams: 35-1. Would love to step up to a big time program from his current job. Cons: Tarheel stench. Odd eyeglasses too reminiscent of Amato.

That Guy Arizona State Just Hired: 35-1. Pros: Most successful NC State Coach in decades. Cons: Never won anything.

4/6/2006 10:51:38 AM

like wake fans have any fucking room to talk shit.

4/6/2006 11:01:56 AM

ummmm, yeah.

Because we all know who the real "good coach" is.....

4/6/2006 11:08:40 AM

well

in arguably their worst year in quite a while

they beat us twice easily

in a week

4/6/2006 11:10:52 AM

they left off Bill Walton

4/6/2006 11:11:58 AM

IN A WEEK

4/6/2006 11:27:04 AM