http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/country/gcf/newsID/2060220.012/bmw/bmw-unveils-new-biturbo-petrol-straight-six-engine
2/20/2006 6:04:58 PM
conversion
2/20/2006 6:23:02 PM
well shitone vote for that being a biatch to work on though...
2/20/2006 6:25:41 PM
is it just me or is that picture missing something?
2/20/2006 6:59:59 PM
intercooler mist system?
2/20/2006 7:12:51 PM
try the entire block
2/20/2006 7:20:27 PM
bwahah
2/20/2006 7:22:25 PM
2/20/2006 7:28:39 PM
i don't even want to know how much that option/upgrade is going to cost
2/20/2006 7:53:07 PM
I am going to second the 'this will be a bitch to work on' opinion, as you can only see the tops of the first 3 of 6 cylinders under the E90 hood, the rest are under the cowling/windshield area, meaning one of those turbos is going to be waaay back in the engine bay. Part of me wants to say 'the engineers are German and it has been tested well enough' but having owned an example of nearly all brands of German cars (mercedes is the odd one out) they do sacrifice ease of maintenance in favor of better performance fairly often... I doubt I'll be looking for this one on the used car market in a few years.
2/20/2006 8:24:45 PM
295lb ft? is that all? what's the projected mpg?...
2/20/2006 8:39:47 PM
hell yeah, new desktop backgroundsif only oep could find some crazy huge pictures
2/20/2006 8:47:29 PM
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9926/rb26dett5kd.jpg
2/20/2006 8:50:31 PM
nissan junk
2/20/2006 8:51:02 PM
It will be released as the 335i. I posted this earlier on nceuro today. There has been some talk of these last year but the finally went public with it.
2/20/2006 9:35:52 PM
Let's put all the buzzwords and hype aside. Does anyone have any more information on this biturbo system?what does this biturbo system actually do, besides "eliminate turbo lag" ? How does it work? We've seen these type of systems before: more piping, more shit to get in the way when you're fixing something, more places to leak boost, more expensive bullshit to troubleshoot and parts to replace. How do we know this isn't going to be the same thing?EDIT: Looking again at the pictures, it doesn't look too complicated as far as the plumbing. This is good.[Edited on February 21, 2006 at 12:35 AM. Reason : plumbing]
2/21/2006 12:33:23 AM
& to be honest, it really doesn't sound that impressive
2/21/2006 12:37:11 AM
didn't bmw squeeze more hp and a little less torque out of the 3.2 i-6 in the new m3?? seems like adding 200ccs would be alot more reliable than adding an entire twin turbo system.
2/21/2006 12:43:00 AM
Adding displacement sounds fine for the US market, however lots of countries (many European ones) have vehicle taxes based on engine displacement, which would make a 3.2 nonturbo cost more to live with than a 3.0 turbo, when it doesn't break, at least.
2/21/2006 7:54:14 AM
2/21/2006 8:47:25 AM
i've said it before..."does the author not realize that VW/Audi already has a turbo direct injection petrol engine already in a production car?"
2/21/2006 10:09:37 AM
so does mazda, who the fuck cares?
2/21/2006 10:19:44 AM
I'll take this one instead.
2/21/2006 1:41:36 PM
2/21/2006 7:53:52 PM
by the looks of it... the turbos are tiny and the waste gate is huge. i bet it almost completely bipasses the turbos at higher rpm.... probably makes a pretty flat torque curve thus a more flat hp curve for that size motor.btw this is b.s. speculation by someone who knows a couple things about turbos.and wheel inertia is only about 2/4 of what spool is related too.volume of air its moving is part too.it may also have that variable vane system the ford/chev diesels and the new 911 are using.[Edited on February 21, 2006 at 8:16 PM. Reason : .]
2/21/2006 8:05:23 PM