k, in our search for something fun and entertaining, we have stumbled across a 1966 corvette with a 427. it needs work... more than a little. we can buy it for like $17k. k, so what type of equipment would one need to restore a classic car like that? we wouldn't do any body work. we have all the basic hand tools and whatnot... also, what do you think it'd be worth when we finished? we would of course restore it to at least excellent condition if that makes sense.

ya i know this will be a pain. but my husband used to work in a shop so he can fix most anything. and it'd be a hobby for him. and considering he is a geeky science/computer guy, it'd be a good hobby.

12/12/2005 5:47:57 PM

hot fucking car

12/12/2005 5:50:47 PM

sounds to me like it would be more of a headache than a learning experience from what you describe of your husband (not meaning anything bad about the man). the final value would all depend on what replacement parts you used i.e. bought original pieces compared to buying copies. of course you'll have a lot more money tied up in originals if you can even find them but that's what it takes to do an actual restoration.

12/12/2005 5:52:33 PM

see that is what i am afraid of. i am not worrying about him being able to fix it...i mean he fixed cars for years in a shop. i am more worried about having to go buy this and that $500 piece of equipment. or of it becoming a "have to" instead of something fun for him.

but i have to say it is a fantabulous car that would be fun to own once we finished it.

[Edited on December 12, 2005 at 5:59 PM. Reason : er]

12/12/2005 5:59:02 PM

if you have to ask these questions, a corvette isn't something you want to get into. they are for the experienced restorer only. it's nothing like doing basic mechanic work in a shop. if it's only 17k, i'm doubting it's in too great of condition. that car should easily bring 30k+ in good unrestored/restored condition. a pristine example upwards of 40k.

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12/12/2005 6:03:52 PM

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"if you have to ask these questions, a corvette isn't something you want to get into. they are for the experienced restorer only."

i agree, and a amauter i cant spell restoration will only lower its value.

if you want a car to have fun with and restore there are many other better choices.

12/12/2005 6:06:54 PM

look forward to lots of oil consumption

12/12/2005 7:43:48 PM

if u dont get it, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee tell me where it is, i really want that year and that engine combo...willin to sell my current one to buy that one and redo it all myself, rebuilt the entire 75 myself inside out, so i would love to do that to this one

thanks

12/12/2005 8:27:36 PM

the last restoted 66 big blocck i saw was a factory side pipe and a/c car. it sold for 65k.

here is the problem. once it is restored you wonot drive it much. its not the most pleasant car in the world to drive. no power steering, shitty brakes, and bad suspension. you will much better off buying something with some comforts like like power brakes, steering, cd player, etc. i think you would be unhappy with such a project. just my opnion though.

12/12/2005 8:40:49 PM

^ what he said

sounds good and will look good..but really I don't think it'll end up being what you want

12/12/2005 8:46:40 PM

just remember one thing.....these cars are only worth as much money as somebody is willing to pay for it....

12/12/2005 9:28:01 PM

also, fiberglass is a bitch

12/12/2005 9:30:23 PM

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"these cars are only worth as much money as somebody is willing to pay for it."

wow that was a worthy reply

12/12/2005 9:49:30 PM

once again, im willing to do alllll this over again, and yes its a bitch to do glass work, paint, and are probably the worst riding/driving cars...but tahts what old classics bring you

its alotttt of work, especially to get it back right, took me 3 years to completely redo mine with original parts out of another wrecked vette...but everything is exact, lines are matched up everywhere, only thing thats not original on my car witing and battery

but seriously, if you dont buy this car, please give me the info

12/12/2005 9:49:31 PM

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"wow that was a worthy reply"

yeah it was....watch barrett jackson....and see a car that was 3000 brand new sell for 180k....thats because it is worth that to somebody...there are no real blue book vaules for something like this....

12/12/2005 9:58:16 PM

please give me the info too

12/12/2005 9:59:06 PM

a chevy that old will require a lot of work to restore
and hand tools may not cut it.
old chevy=rust=air tools
or else your gonna have a bitch of a time getting off almost all of the bolts on it.
its not easy to restore one of those and maintain it
chevys get wear and definately show it.

12/12/2005 10:01:21 PM

your comment brought nothing to this topic. it was vauge and pointless. everything has value, and every one knows that. anyone can watch barret-jackson and see cars go for crazy money. that is purely an inflated market value and not typical of what a car is worth. the prices there are typicaly totally inflated for anywhere else in the country. so your comment is totaly worthless to helping her make a decision.

to restore one and expect anywhere close to that money is not something anyone on this message board is capable of doing. UNLESS they pay someone capable of doing it. it is out of queti's league, as her skill set can not be as good as would be need to make the effort and money invested to restore worth it. it would be a total loser. queti is a smart girl and and i highly doubt she will take on this car unless she is a glutten for punishment. all parts are going to very expensive and hard to find. pops first car was a 67 427 factory air, factory side pipe, canarry yellow. he spent stupid high money in the 80's to restore it and had to hold onto it till 97 to recoup his money. restoring cars like that is a loser. much less we dont even know if its a factory 427 car, or what options is has factory. hell we dont even know if its an oval port or square port head out of a truck or late model car. without it being the correct and original motor its a total no go. there is too much little info to even consider encouraging her to do this.

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12/12/2005 10:19:30 PM

^well, at 17k it better be at least numbers matching. it's got to be in poor shape though. or it's in running/driving condition non numbers matching.

12/12/2005 10:42:44 PM

exactly like i said....there are no real set values for a restored classic car.....it is only worth as much as somebody thinks it is....

12/13/2005 7:52:36 AM

thanks for the honesty guys... the thought is that this would be a hobby for cody... i don't want it to become a chore or a real money pit (a little of a money pit is ok tho since it'd be a hobby ). we'll look hard at it before we buy or don't buy. i have a friend from my hometown that specializes in finding $$$ specialty cars for people... i may give him a ring and send him the pics to see what he thinks

we definitely wouldn't do ANY body work, paint, etc... that'd go to a pro! and you are absolutely right... my skill set is no where near what is needed. but cody can rebuild engines, do brakes, transmissions, some body, and most other things.. especially on older cars (he and his dad restored a 1960 something caddy and some other dodge muscle car)

thanks!

12/13/2005 9:51:53 AM

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"exactly like i said....there are no real set values for a restored classic car.....it is only worth as much as somebody thinks it is...."

how much do you think I sell this unused loaf of bread?

well, its only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.... DURRRRRRRRRR

12/13/2005 10:52:49 AM

^ exactly, he made a totaly bogus statement and then cant even back it or why he even bothered to say it. idiot gahhhhh

12/13/2005 3:46:02 PM

post picts in this thread i want to see it.

12/13/2005 4:15:22 PM

hey morons...

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"there are no real set values for a restored classic car"

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 7:09 PM. Reason : ]

12/13/2005 7:08:16 PM

pics or this thread is worthless

12/13/2005 7:39:45 PM

if there are no set values for something than how do you determine its value??....you can part it out individually but we know when it comes to cars that is not really valid most of the time...the only way you will know how much you can get for it is guess and compare it to what somebody paid for something similar....that value of what they paid is the way to assume a price of what you can get for it....so basically these things are only worth what somebody is willing to give you for it.....its not like gold where so much is worth some amount...

12/13/2005 10:09:50 PM

you people are ignorant. there ARE "values" set for classic, antique, restored vehicles just as much as there is a "value" for a honda accord. kbb and nada both have guides to classic vehicle values, and there are a few other reputable companies that specialize in classic/antique values ONLY. if you want to be technical about it, no used vehicle has a set value or price that can be requested for it.

12/13/2005 10:20:44 PM

supply and demand, rarity, historical significance, modified or original condition, and desirabilty all affect classic car resale value

12/13/2005 10:23:23 PM

depreciation does not come into play with a classic vehicle as it does a standard used vehicle....when a car goes up in value 10 or 20 times then it is a judgement call...and condition and restoration completeless have a lot to do with it....custom restorations throw that shit out the window....there are a lot of fakes to be found out there too....

12/13/2005 10:24:49 PM

haha, yeah like my 66 coupe gt stang, still a great looking and running car though, fastbacks are too hard to find, i dont understand why they had the coupe 289's but no gt model that year with the solid lifter 289

12/13/2005 10:28:56 PM

you're making absolutely no sense. choosing an amount to pay for ANY vehicle is a judgement call. there are tons of different factors in choosing what vehicle to buy, how much to pay, and why to buy it. you're argument isn't valid at all, and you've proven no difference between buying a classic car or a 2 year old car in terms of there being values set.

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 10:32 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2005 10:31:41 PM

do 2 year old cars go up in value....their values are a depreciated amount of the selling price when it was new....people pay the crazy ass amounts for classics because they want to...

12/13/2005 10:33:55 PM

basically, the more of they wrecked on dukes of hazard, the fewer there are left, and the more valuable they are. take my uncles '56 studebaker golden hawk for example, packard straight 8 from the factory mint condition, ugliest car on the face of the planet, but worth a fucking fortune

12/13/2005 10:35:25 PM

i love classic cars and am willing to drop a huge dime on one if the right one comes my way....my point is that the barrett jackson mentality is killing the classic car marketplace for normal people because of the escalated values that people have embedded in their minds....all the factors spoken of have a factor in this value but god damn it is rediculous....

12/13/2005 10:39:11 PM

^^^what exactly does appreciation or depreciation have to do with this? the argument was whether or not classic cars can be valued like a normal car. no one has proven they aren't or can't be. people pay crazy amounts for classic cars just like people pay crazy amounts for normal cars. sometimes it's at market value, sometimes not in both cases.
^^that's a poor example... there are plenty of classic cars out there that are in limited numbers and aren't worth crap. also, chargers are hardly rare and the dukes of hazard barely put a dent in the population of them at the time of the show.

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2005 10:46:36 PM

^^i completely agree... classic car values have gotten out of hand. that doesn't mean that they're not valued at those prices by pricing guides and the supporting market though.

[Edited on December 13, 2005 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2005 10:49:33 PM

sublime you are a fuckin moron

12/14/2005 10:15:28 AM

nah hes right. same thing with offroaders. ppl think d60s and d300s are made of gold bc a magazine said so.

[Edited on December 14, 2005 at 10:37 AM. Reason : k]

12/14/2005 10:36:53 AM

stone you can suck my penis....

12/14/2005 8:07:37 PM

umm dude there are hipo 289 coupes just very very few

btw i know they have the gt package but that wasn't so much of a model then its the k-code that you are speaking of

the a code was the other fun on w/o solid lifters (4bbl 289 4-speed)


[Edited on December 14, 2005 at 8:30 PM. Reason : .]

12/14/2005 8:29:02 PM

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"stone you can suck my penis...."

like OMG that hurt

12/15/2005 12:37:02 AM

Queti, I'd invest money in it and then keep it as a collector's item.

Ignore the stupid ppl who are fighting over here. I can authoritatively recommend that you buy this car and hire a mechanic to revamp it. Not like it's gonna be your primary car anyway.

-Ultra-

12/15/2005 3:20:17 AM

^ yeah i mean you have so much creditability and all here. i think she will do it just because of you.

12/15/2005 7:42:58 AM

But he is Ultra

12/15/2005 7:44:03 AM

ultraghey

12/15/2005 8:19:08 AM

I dunno about my creditability.

12/15/2005 10:25:23 AM

gtfo ultrafag

12/15/2005 1:19:53 PM

What?? Does the ultra name not mean anything to you people??

Yeah, me neither.

12/15/2005 7:50:59 PM

it's just gargs.

12/15/2005 9:12:32 PM