So I'm wondering what to say now as I'm applying for jobs.

I did the 90/96 program and got it exponged- but what does that mean?

If I'm applying for a government job (like for the state or city), am I required to reveal this information?
What do they look for in a criminal background check?
I have no outstanding tickets or anything nuts like that...

let me know, thanks

11/28/2005 3:18:02 PM

now that you posted here, i'm sure the feds will find you. They'll get you... oh they'll get you.

On a serious note, I think expounged means "never happened." Anybody back me up on this?

[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 3:19 PM. Reason : .]

11/28/2005 3:18:38 PM

expunge means to make not exist...

11/28/2005 3:19:26 PM

well, i don't think it should be a make-or-break as to whether or not I'm qualified for a job...



but i don't want to have to reveal it unless I have to.

11/28/2005 3:19:27 PM

hmmm I'd say as long as you don't need security clearance you'll be fine.

Expunged records can be dug up, but I don't think you need to disclose it.

I don't think they are going to care anyway if it wasn't a felony.

11/28/2005 3:19:39 PM

Did you not read that exponged means NOT EXIST? Noone will know or has to know unless you tell them. Even if they ask, you can lie because there is no proof it ever happened. (Thats my understanding from a friend who went through it) At least the proof is really really hard to find, they can find it if they want to, but there would be no reason to dig that much on you.

[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 3:22 PM. Reason : n]

11/28/2005 3:21:06 PM

i have an expunged drinking ticket....i also have gone through the government security clearance process.

i did not have to reveal it when applying for the job, however, i did have to admit to it when going through clearance. they made it very clear that i had to admit to anything i was charged with, even if it was expunged.

unless they explicitily say, "including expunged records" (or something like that), then you are not required to list it.

Quote :

"Even if they ask, you can lie because there is no proof it ever happened."

that not true...the government still has access to your expunged records.



i wouldnt be worried about it though...its just a drinking ticket.



[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 3:26 PM. Reason : k]

11/28/2005 3:24:24 PM

tell them you're in AA and that you've been sober for 4 years. Turn it into a positive.

11/28/2005 3:26:48 PM

If its a really through background check it will. So your better off just admiting to it, most likely it won't keep your from get the job if you are qualified. Just because a ticket is exponged, the arrest records still exist.

11/28/2005 3:29:57 PM

dont admit to anything else you are asked.

if they simply ask you, "have you ever been convicted of a crime?" then no, you dont have to list it.

11/28/2005 3:32:34 PM

I have a question that pertains to this thread:

My husband got arrested when he was 17 for damage to property and trespassing. The damage to property charge was dropped, but he was convicted of trespassing. He didn't go to court until he was 18, but the judge said that the record would be sealed. Therefore, he hadn't been reporting it on his job applications and had no problems. Recently, he applied for a job at a locally run store who runs criminal background checks for all of their applicants. He received notice in the mail that he would not be hired and a copy of the reasons found were sent to him. His trespassing charge and the damage to property charge were both on there...even though one was supossed to be sealed and one was dropped altogether. So, did that company get ahold of information that they weren't supossed to see, or has this been showing up all along?

[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 5:39 PM. Reason : forgot something]

11/28/2005 5:38:00 PM

sometimes priors will come up in background checks and you have to write a letter to the employer explaining what happened. that is if they catch it. I'd just be upfront about it and say what happened and it should be okay. As far as I know expunged offenses don't come up on all but the most indepth background searches. And even then it doesn't always tell what the offense was. I wouldn't study on it to hard, unless its for a security clearance. ( someone correct me if I'm wrong on this)

11/28/2005 5:54:20 PM

Quote :

"i did not have to reveal it when applying for the job, however, i did have to admit to it when going through clearance. they made it very clear that i had to admit to anything i was charged with, even if it was expunged."

I'm in the same boat as sober46an3 and he's exactly right.

^As far as that goes, I have no idea.

11/28/2005 5:54:39 PM

Most job applications ask for any felonies or PENDING charges (including misdemeanors) ..... a drinking ticket counts as neither of these. Even though your ticket was expunged, it will still show up on a background check, they never really go away. Either way it shouldn't effect you getting a job. However, if your application asks you if you have ever been charged with anything, put it down with a note that it was expunged, that way you're safe.

11/28/2005 8:02:16 PM

i didn't know people were so worried about a god damned drinking ticket.

11/29/2005 9:10:04 AM

If it is for a government job, particularly if it is a position that requires an in depth background check you should definitlely disclose it. I'm currently going through a background investigation and you are required to disclose anything you have ever been charged with regardless of status. They can find expunged charges, it does not mean it is gone. And if they require a polygraph you may fail. Most jobs that require security clearance non-disclosure will permenantly disqualify you from that agency. Best bet though is to call the lawyer that expunged it for you. They could answer your question better than tww....

11/29/2005 9:28:41 AM

law enforcement, military, and important govt are the only ones with access to expunged records.

you will never have to worry about it.

11/29/2005 9:37:57 AM

you dont need to reveal it if it was expunged.

11/29/2005 9:45:37 AM

Quote :

"I have a question that pertains to this thread: My husband got arrested when he was 17 for damage to property and trespassing. The damage to property charge was dropped, but he was convicted of trespassing. He didn't go to court until he was 18, but the judge said that the record would be sealed. Therefore, he hadn't been reporting it on his job applications and had no problems. Recently, he applied for a job at a locally run store who runs criminal background checks for all of their applicants. He received notice in the mail that he would not be hired and a copy of the reasons found were sent to him. His trespassing charge and the damage to property charge were both on there...even though one was supossed to be sealed and one was dropped altogether. So, did that company get ahold of information that they weren't supossed to see, or has this been showing up all along? "

Was the charge made in the same state where he placed the application? While your records may be expunged or sealed within your state, they are not erased alltogether and appear on any checks made from a different state. I don't know why, but they do. My two speeding tickets were dropped and dissapeared from all NC records, and I have a background check from NC to show it. But when I came to GA, they showed up.

11/29/2005 12:18:39 PM

in NC 16 is the age of criminal majority

11/29/2005 12:20:04 PM

Quote :

"you dont need to reveal it if it was expunged."

but she does have to disclose that she's borderline retarded

11/29/2005 8:50:13 PM

it got dismissed basically with that program

therefore when it ask if u have ever been convicted

NO

11/29/2005 9:11:03 PM

^^^The ticket was in NC and his job was in NC as well. The only difference was that he was convicted in Carteret County and the job was in Chatham County.

11/29/2005 9:14:00 PM

it's also a misdemeanor, and it was dismissed

11/29/2005 9:40:40 PM

Not to be the voice of reason or anything, but did anybody try asking Student Legal Services?

11/30/2005 3:30:10 AM

I had a felony charge expunged

I bet that shit will haunt me still though

11/30/2005 3:34:07 AM

forget all that crap..


u just need to soften it up a bit...

just say you killed some old lady in her sleep for the money in her underwear drawer in order to support your heroin addiction and then mention the drinking ticket, they won't even remember about the ticket after the interview.


It's all about delivery.

11/30/2005 3:34:53 AM