Safest Cities:
1. Newton, Mass.
2. Clarkstown, N.Y.
3. Amherst, N.Y.
4. Mission Viejo, Calif.
5. Brick Township, N.J.
6. Troy, Mich.
7. Thousand Oaks, Calif.
8. Round Rock, Texas
9. Lake Forest, Calif.
10. Cary, N.C.
11. Colonie, N.Y.
12. Fargo, N.D.
13. Irvine, Calif.
14. Orem, Utah
15. Dover Township, N.J.
16. Warwick, R.I.
17. Sunnyvale, Calif.
18. Hamilton Township, N.J.
19. Parma, Ohio
20. Greece, N.Y.

Most Dangerous Cities:
1. Camden, N.J.
2. Detroit
3. St. Louis
4. Flint, Mich.
5. Richmond, Va.
6. Baltimore
7. Atlanta
8. New Orleans
9. Gary, Ind.
10. Birmingham, Ala.
11. Richmond, Calif.
12. Cleveland, Ohio
13. Washington
14. West Palm Beach, Fla.
15. Compton, Calif.
16. Memphis, Tenn.
17. Dayton, Ohio
18. San Bernadino, Calif.
19. Springfield, Mass.
20. Cincinnati, Ohio

11/21/2005 11:28:08 AM

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"5. Richmond, Va. 6. Baltimore 7. Atlanta 8. New Orleans 9. Gary, Ind. 10. Birmingham, Ala. 11. Richmond, Calif. 12. Cleveland, Ohio 13. Washington"

w00t

11/21/2005 11:32:08 AM

they say st. louis - but i've been working downtown there on and off since july and it's pretty damn safe

11/21/2005 11:32:57 AM

^It isn't downtown St. Louis they are talking about.

11/21/2005 11:34:33 AM

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"14. West Palm Beach, Fla."

wtf?

11/21/2005 11:36:46 AM

how is that surprising? ^

11/21/2005 11:41:13 AM

something tells me New Orleans should be number 1, but thats just me

11/21/2005 11:41:56 AM

yay, Durham isn't on the list!

gg on dodging the bullet (pun intended!!1)

11/21/2005 11:42:58 AM

Durham is 77

11/21/2005 11:51:19 AM

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"^It isn't downtown St. Louis they are talking about."

Mostly north side. The rest are pretty safe.

11/21/2005 11:58:51 AM

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"1. Newton, Mass. "

That is rather surprising to me. So close to a major city like Boston. Don't get me wrong the area is absolutely awesome and driving down Commonwealth Ave towards B.C. is a VERY nice area but I would think it would be a bit higher crime. I still want to move to Newton after grad school.. (either that or suburban New York City)..

[Edited on November 21, 2005 at 12:02 PM. Reason : f]

11/21/2005 12:00:47 PM

12. Fargo, N.D.

BULLSHIT i saw the movie

11/21/2005 12:02:21 PM

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"19. Springfield, Mass."

Yeah baby, home town woot.
I heading there tomorrow.

[Edited on November 21, 2005 at 1:05 PM. Reason : .]

11/21/2005 1:05:17 PM

haha cary is one of the most UNSAFEST cities in america

no body drives on the roads after 11pm

11/21/2005 1:07:23 PM

too bad blue states are soft on crime

11/21/2005 1:08:01 PM

ok well i guess if you like police harrassing you for no reason, move to cary

11/21/2005 1:09:11 PM

cary police have nothing on apex police

11/21/2005 1:12:05 PM

mebane police pwn all other

11/21/2005 1:12:49 PM

Great Lakes represent

11/21/2005 1:29:21 PM

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"12. Fargo, N.D."

it's too cold to go out and cause trouble

11/21/2005 1:30:01 PM

BALTIMORE WHAT WHAT

11/21/2005 1:30:55 PM

plz to post source

thx

11/21/2005 1:39:29 PM

no way in hell we (st. louis) are worse than new orleans and few others on that list...would like to know how they're figuring all this....

11/21/2005 1:52:37 PM

^If they rolled in East St. Louis, then St. Louis belongs well ahead of the rest of those with the possible exception of Flint, MI.

11/21/2005 2:03:39 PM

http://www.nbc4.com/news/5371962/detail.html

http://www.morganquitno.com/safecity.htm

11/21/2005 2:16:48 PM

So I'm reading that the safest places in America have the lowest concentration of minorities, whereas the opposite is true for the most dangerous. Just a quick look at the demographics and incomes of the different areas pretty much leads to that conclusion.

[Edited on November 21, 2005 at 2:25 PM. Reason : .]

11/21/2005 2:23:29 PM

^
What is considered "minority" though? Atlanta/LA most definitely have different definitions of "minority".

Also,

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"with populations over 75,000"

definitely makes a difference ... from my grade-school days ... thought a city was 50k+ population?

[Edited on November 21, 2005 at 3:05 PM. Reason : .]

11/21/2005 3:05:21 PM

Haha Atlanta represent. Seriously though, all the Cary and Raleigh people talking about how horrible Durham is, are you on crack?

And why is Richmond, Va on that list...

11/21/2005 3:08:07 PM

You ever been to Richmond?

11/21/2005 3:12:35 PM

yeah, richmond is pretty "dark" to say the least

11/21/2005 4:01:56 PM

i was scared driving through Camden, N.J. in the middle of the afternoon, id hate to see it at night

11/21/2005 6:24:22 PM

I stayed in the heart of Camden, N.J. for a week for a community program to help some kids and shit. Every night you hear gunshots, and a lot in the day too. That place is fucking scary!

11/21/2005 6:57:12 PM

my friend told me richmond was almost as bad as atlanta, but he said he would visit richmond again, not atl though

11/21/2005 6:58:46 PM

my dad and i bike every year from our home in central jersey to philadelphia to see the national cycling championships. this requires us to ride through camden downtown to get over the ben franklin bridge...he always makes me speed up as we bike through. one time i got a flat tire and he told me to keep riding til we were at least near the bridge...the place def earns the #1 title

11/21/2005 7:18:48 PM

i use to live like 20 minutes outside of cleveland and i feel that cinci should be above cleveland but cleveland is ranked pretty appropriate i think

the whole state of ohio is going to the shitter quick

11/21/2005 7:21:33 PM

well, my friend Matt got stabbed for the second time in Richmond VA

11/21/2005 10:48:09 PM

Even inside the fan you aren't safe.

11/21/2005 10:49:06 PM

yeah, I'm from cleveland, but the suburbs. My dad had his car stolen twice from downtown cleveland. you definitely locked the doors in certain areas of downtown. but tons of cities have areas like that. Most of the downtown was actually pretty nice.

Columbus actually has some pretty fucking ghetto areas too.

11/22/2005 9:08:11 AM

Yeah ...i 'm expecting to see Cleveland on the list .
Gas Stations on Euclid and Chester (close to downtown) are My friend got robbed in there. Umm.. I saw gunshot victim on Euclid once. However, I think Cleveland isn't that dangerous if you re in the right area.

11/22/2005 9:50:34 AM

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"^It isn't downtown St. Louis they are talking about.""

Quote :

"Mostly north side. The rest are pretty safe."

Or East St. Louis on the Illinois side. I don't even want to look over there.

11/22/2005 10:23:03 AM

I saw a Radiohead concert in Camden once.

I got shot nine times but I just made a rap album about it.

11/22/2005 11:55:27 AM

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"14. West Palm Beach, Fla."

West Palm is worse than Miami, although I'd say Ft. Lauderdale MIGHT be worse than West Palm.

West Palm and Broward are both full of white trash, meth labs, and thugs.

11/22/2005 2:36:31 PM

haha i fucking hate south florida

why would anyone want to live there

11/22/2005 2:37:18 PM

Because its not NC and its not DC

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 2:38 PM. Reason : ,]

11/22/2005 2:38:21 PM

tampa isnt bad

i could see living there

no way in miami or fort lauderdale though

11/22/2005 2:42:10 PM

Are you kidding me?

Tampa is a shithole. My roommate is from there and even admits it. Ybor City? Horrible.

If you said Naples or Fort Meyers, then I'd agree. Plus, Miami is a completely different place since the rich people took it over and they got that good mayor in 1990.

11/22/2005 2:44:54 PM

^Tampa isnt that bad. bor City might be a shithole but everywhere else in the city people are rich as fuck. Try south Tampa next time.

11/22/2005 2:47:37 PM

Naples is pretty but it's full of old people

and i wouldnt live in tampa, id prolly live in clear water or st pete

i guess it depends on where in miami youre talking about

11/22/2005 2:48:32 PM

I saw a guy get jumped in Ybor by a bunch of dudes a few years ago and I never cared for the city of Tampa. Naples is full of old people but its a very nice town and a really cool place. Miami is shitty in areas like any city in its poorer parts (Overtown, Liberty City, Upper Eastside), but the poorer places are disappearing rapidly and the nicer places (Coconut Grove, Brickell, The Roads, Key Biscayne) are getting bigger. I would never care to move to Broward County (Fort Lauderdale) and Palm Beach because its seedy and you start seeing more Florida white trash there.

You turn on the news and you see something really fucked up, 99% of the time its in Broward County or Palm Beach County.

11/22/2005 2:59:04 PM

1. Cary link send redefine 362 up, 44 down
Located in North Carolina. A scant 20 miles from Raleigh, it's still possible (and a frequent night-long activity) to whine about having nothing to do. The world's largest collection of anal cops and coffee shops within a three-mile radius, one has ample oppurtunity to buy an overpriced mediocre coffee and somehow get arrested while doing it. Home of Green Hope High School, (home of the 2nd most expensive school parking lot in the nation) as well as the much less snobby and much less talked about Apex and Cary High School. "Downtown" Cary is home to less then 13 black people.
My life-long goal is to get the hell out of Cary.

That rich white man lives in Cary.

the list goes on at

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cary

i might add to it i live there.

11/22/2005 3:07:44 PM