are yall still hardcore liberals?

[Edited on November 11, 2005 at 12:11 PM. Reason : o]

11/11/2005 12:10:44 PM

...the hell?

You forget which school we all went to?

11/11/2005 12:46:53 PM

my license plate says "LIBERAL1." with a fading crooked kerry-edwards bumper sticker under it.

THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT DIE.

11/11/2005 12:50:39 PM

I became authoritarian.

Because the real world showed me that humans shouldn't be allowed to think freely.

11/11/2005 1:10:25 PM

nope, I didnt give a shit about politics before college, and I still dont give a shit now that I'm out

11/11/2005 1:39:46 PM

I think George W. Bush is the best/worst President ever.

11/11/2005 1:55:52 PM

I have become more politically active since graduating. I'll probably end up running for office some day. (I hope that my TDub past won't come back to bite me...)

11/11/2005 3:23:50 PM

I came into college pretty liberal.

Then my dad got laid off and I had to become financially independent.

Then i started becoming more and more conservative.

3 years after college, i'm pretty much just to the right of center, being economically conservative, and socially liberal for the most part.

However, from an economic standpoint, Clinton is far more of a conservative than Dubya.

11/11/2005 3:35:36 PM

I want my hard-earned taxes back, but I don't want to associate myself with the idiocy that is George W. Bush.

11/11/2005 4:16:06 PM

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"I came into college pretty liberal. Then my dad got laid off and I had to become financially independent. Then i started becoming more and more conservative. 3 years after college, i'm pretty much just to the right of center, being economically conservative, and socially liberal for the most part. However, from an economic standpoint, Clinton is far more of a conservative than Dubya."

Yep that's where I am. I prefer economically conservative now that I've got the money they all want to take. You get greedy after college. Actually, more like you get a mortgage and real bills and realize that your salary has nothing to do with your disposible income.

11/13/2005 5:40:47 PM

came closer to the center, but am still left of center

11/14/2005 6:07:19 PM

I came in pretty much center of the road. Now I am very much more right than left. The democratic party just has nothing to offer anyone who is not slanted very left.

11/14/2005 6:36:07 PM

I've gone from being a republican, center, liberal, center

i'm closest to being a libertarian

11/14/2005 7:40:43 PM

came in apathetic, but republican. swerved to the left after a couple of classes "opened my eyes," realized towards the end that my eyes were actually more shut than ever, came back to the right, and now i guess i'm more centrist, but definitely right leaning.

11/14/2005 7:48:24 PM

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"You get greedy after college. Actually, more like you get a mortgage and real bills and realize that your salary has nothing to do with your disposible income. "

eh...id say i was more greedy in college. i still had to pay for everything myself, and i wasnt working a full time job, so i had to be more conservative with my money.

now, im more willing to donate money and spread the wealth.

11/15/2005 8:13:52 AM

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"now, im more willing to donate money and spread the wealth."

just pm'd you my address

11/15/2005 11:07:28 AM

maybe i should have added "...to those in need"

11/15/2005 11:19:49 AM

I am now a member of the Orwellian Party

11/15/2005 11:51:41 AM

^ aka The GOP

I came in registered Unaffiliated, but still pretty leftist. I'm still registered Unaffiliated, but am far more left-libertarian now.

11/15/2005 2:23:38 PM

Started school conservative, finished school conservative, and now that I have to work and pay taxes and have a budget, more conservative. And seeing how worthless and rot gut popular culture is...even more conservative. This country is asleep and most of the people are brain dead for not being able to see how this country in unraveling.

11/15/2005 10:26:40 PM

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

--Winston Churchill

11/15/2005 10:42:24 PM

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"came closer to the center, but am still left right of center"

I've also come to despise partisan politics, and no longer identify myself as a Republican.

[Edited on November 16, 2005 at 1:10 AM. Reason : btw, this is about how college has changed me, not how post college life has changed me from college]

11/16/2005 1:10:06 AM

Still conservative but now more cynical about the entire system. I call myself a moderate Republican (or a Goldwater Republican as a friend once put it) only because I don't want to abandon the party to the fundamentalists, and I dislike the Democrats' extremists even more than the Republicans' fringe.

11/17/2005 2:10:16 AM

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"i'm pretty much just to the right of center, being economically conservative, and socially liberal for the most part"

yep, well somewhat socially liberal...

11/17/2005 5:45:49 AM

I came in liberal, became more liberal in college, and even more after I started grad school at a historically black university i am even more liberal, if that is at all possible.

11/17/2005 10:39:28 AM

I have to say that my position on "no child left behind" sure has changed since I started teaching at an inner city high school. Some of these kids are so fucking lazy that they should be left behind. We are 2 weeks into the 2nd quarter, and I have several kids that have a 0.0% in the class b/c they just want to run their mouths for the 86 minutes every day. I think the slogan sould be changed to "fuck it, leave em behind", because some of the kids out there dont give a shit about getting an education, and they never will.
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11/20/2005 12:35:54 AM

pre-college: democrat/liberal, but didn't know why

college: democrat/liberal, found out why

post-college: democrat/liberal, still goin' strong

(PS: cool Old School thread)

-ZiP!-

11/20/2005 12:52:17 AM

^You speak gud for a designer

11/20/2005 6:59:57 PM

Hardcore communist

11/20/2005 7:15:53 PM

I'm very conservative, always have been I suppose.

I'm fucking sick of the gov't taking $800 of my paycheck every two weeks.

I'm a pretty strict constitutionalist actually. I think the government needs to drop all welfare and social spending programs, drop medicare, drop social security, etc...

I know it will never happen, but its a nice dream.

11/20/2005 8:09:01 PM

I believe in anarchy but I don't believe in people.

11/20/2005 8:45:01 PM

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"came closer to the center, but am still left of center"

11/20/2005 10:48:30 PM

i came in as a fairly party-line Republican

and became more and more of a right-leaning libertarian...socially much more moderate, and fiscally somewhat more to the right (in terms of being a hardcore free-marketeer...i'm about the same in terms of tolerance for social programs)

11/20/2005 11:58:38 PM

the military is the biggest social program of them all

11/21/2005 1:13:30 AM

it's also one that even card-carrying, capital-"L" Libertarians view as a legitimate role of the federal government.

and i didn't say i became more opposed to social programs. i said i stayed about the same in that regard (more old skool GOP than Libertarian in my views, there. definitely to the right, but not off the deep end. i'm realistic.). i'm definitely more of a free-marketeer, though.

my only real major change was moving much more to the center socially.

11/21/2005 1:36:36 AM

For the most part, I would consider myself liberal. I do think gun laws (up here in Mass.) are a bit tooooooo fucking tight. Guess I would say that I am finally getting in touch with my conservative side, however I am not one who heavilly favors conservative politics.

11/21/2005 8:20:34 PM

well, guess what that might make you?

i'll give you a hint...the party by that name could become a viable force in American politics with some decent leadership and less extreme, more pragmatic platforms.

11/21/2005 10:38:35 PM

Guys like Schwarzeneggar, McCain, Specter, etc are so ideologically different from Bush and the social conservative wing of the party that they really should group together and form an influencial subgroup. Those guys aren't all-out libertarians, but they are pretty close, being fiscal conservatives with somewhat progressive social views.

11/22/2005 1:13:04 AM

McCain is more right-wing than people think...

but basically, yeah.

11/22/2005 2:45:06 AM

Been a Republican throughout college. I might be kind of centered in regard to societal issues, for example I hate abortion but can see that some of it can't be banned without creating an even worse issue, stuff like that.

11/22/2005 4:01:07 PM

well, guess what that might make you?

i'll give you a hint...the party by that name could become a viable force in American politics with some decent leadership and less extreme, more pragmatic platforms.





my point is that the libertarian message easily sells itself...the Libertarian party just actively fucks themselves.

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 4:23 PM. Reason : asdfadsfa]

11/22/2005 4:22:25 PM

They need a Karl Rove.

11/22/2005 4:45:26 PM

Nope... my views did not change before college, nor have they changed since...

11/22/2005 5:24:43 PM

before college i was conservative fiscally and non-fiscally. now, i'd say i am non-fiscal centrist and fiscal moderate conservative

11/23/2005 11:30:55 AM

also, while i'm still on the left:

i've become more pro-life than pro-choice (by commonly accepted definitions). this is due to my personal development over time, and better understanding of all angles; and just happens to coincide with my collegiate time.

11/23/2005 2:39:43 PM

That would maybe explain why I wanted McCain to stay in the running for President

11/27/2005 3:37:13 AM

I would definitely agree that my stand on abortion coincides with ssjamind 's. I really didn't like how funding for birthcontrol was pulled from other countries. I know it wasn't for our country, but in the long run it was for our own good (globally speaking).

11/28/2005 7:54:10 PM

i was a libertarian... sort of... for most of college. Then, I realized some fundamentals of libertarianism I absoltuely couldn't stand and became more of a libertarian/green/somethingorother

I'm all for free enterprise, but I mostly agree with liberals on domestic issues. I don't like the idea of privatization of government services most of the time, becuase business is usually even more corrupt than government.

Oh, and I think that small government is a great idea, but if we are goign to have the massive spending we have now, it should be for healthcare and humanitarian aid rather than useless wars

11/30/2005 4:45:47 PM