came out today...i never played the first one but the graphics look badass and the gameplay seems very interesting and entertaining...anyone played the first one? I'm debating if i should buy this one.

10/4/2005 9:43:36 AM

wtf is black and white

is that a new name for chess?

10/4/2005 9:54:10 AM

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235195.asp

10/4/2005 10:02:42 AM

oh fuck, I am out of the loop! Gonna have to go get this one...

10/4/2005 10:18:46 AM

installing now...

10/5/2005 5:43:53 PM

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"wtf is black and white is that a new name for chess?"

Woodfoot makes me laff

10/5/2005 6:06:03 PM

I had Black & White the original. Ran out and bought it as soon as it came out. It was bug ridden to hell though and needed lots of work.

I am gonna hold off on buying it just yet. I just got like $200 for my birthday today, so I'm mulling over picking up AOE III, Quake 4, The Movies, Black & White 2 and Civ 4 is already on pre-order,

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 6:11 PM. Reason : ]

10/5/2005 6:10:34 PM

Can't believe this guy wanted to be entertainment mod.

10/5/2005 6:15:24 PM

i never played B&W before but B&W 2 kicks ass! Granted i'm still in a tutorial stage but holy shit, this game rocks.

10/5/2005 7:17:21 PM

i also got black and white when it first came out. my comp was decent but it still ran like crap and some of the stuff was just frustrating/lame. i enjoyed it, but didnt play through more than a couple of levels.

the second one looks to be a lot better, but my good comp died cuz of lightning so i might just hold off for now.

10/5/2005 7:32:06 PM

Stupid ape wouldn't stop eating and throwing his feces.

10/5/2005 9:33:05 PM

this is why i perfered demon cow. he just liked to poop and eat villagers in b+w1.

10/5/2005 9:34:20 PM

Someone that has played it plz tell me if its worth buying?

10/5/2005 9:37:05 PM

Theres already a patch coming out tomorow. It fixes a bunch of irritating bugs.

Also, once you install the patch you have to start your game over for it to work.

LAME

[Edited on October 5, 2005 at 10:56 PM. Reason : but totally worth buying]

10/5/2005 10:56:36 PM

totally worth buying it! i can't stop playing. And i haven't personally run into any bugs yet.

10/5/2005 11:31:27 PM

hmm...anyone find the patch that was supposed to come out today?

10/6/2005 10:57:11 PM

eta 24 hrs

10/7/2005 10:05:14 AM

I played the first one for a few levels but then it just got tedious and annoying

great concept though - molyneaux is a genius

[Edited on October 7, 2005 at 10:18 AM. Reason : s]

10/7/2005 10:18:34 AM

i agree, great concept, but it got old. i think the new one will have a little more flare and stuff to do besides dole out professions and gather wood for 2 hours.

10/7/2005 11:09:27 AM

The first B&W had a high wow factor when I first started to play it. Then I realized how much micromanaging was involved. Then I realized that my pet never learned squat. Never. Training leash and all. It may be a good game but the genre just wasn't right for me. It needed to be faster paced. How many hours do you have to show your pet how to water the fields before he does it himself?

10/7/2005 11:22:12 AM

i like when dude merks Allan Houston...also when Mike Tyson hits Robert Downey Jr cause he's coming onto him...good stuff

10/7/2005 11:41:56 AM

Theres a lot less micromanaging in this game. You do some mayoring (putting buildings in the correct locations, buying new buildings when necesary), but you wont have to constantly provide for them. Just build the city nicely and they'll take care of themselves.

Also the creature will let you know what hes thinking all the time so you dont have to worry about punishing him for the wrong thing or waiting till he does the right thing to reward him. Theres no more "leash training". After the creature does something once (ie - eat a villager) you can go into a menu and set how much you want your creature to do it. At any time. Creature spells are purchased rather than trained.

I've played through the first 4 hours, and havent found any huge bugs. A couple small ones but nothing important.

[Edited on October 7, 2005 at 1:21 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2005 1:16:01 PM

i found a huge bug! my computer locks up and i have to reboot. I'm constantly ctrl-S every 5 minutes.

(and i doubt its my machine cause it runs flawlessly for everything else.) could be the drivers for 7800gtx though.

10/7/2005 3:26:48 PM

bttt


new patch...

Quote :

"EA has released the first patch for Lionhead Studios' strategy/sim Black & White 2. This rather large update brings your retail game to v1.1 and addresses a few issues that were found after shipping the game to the manufacturer, as well as a few balancing tweaks that improve the Gameplay in the Lands. Beware, save games are not compatible... You can grab the Black & White 2 v1.1 patch (106mb) over at WorthPlaying. http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=28925"

[Edited on October 8, 2005 at 11:29 AM. Reason : fda]

10/8/2005 11:21:57 AM

save games are not compatible- that sucks

10/8/2005 3:56:06 PM

yeah, and sucks even more you can't skip past the tutorials. but on the bright side it provides you with a lot of tribute rewards.

10/8/2005 4:19:08 PM

good reason to look up cheats and just burn through a stage or two. not sure if any exist though.

10/8/2005 4:25:11 PM

yeah. And what really sucks is i already started over twice due to the fact that the game crashed before i got a save in.

So what pet is everyone using? I'm using the tiger...looks phat.

10/8/2005 4:26:24 PM

I might have to pick this one up

I played the first Black and White a lot, but eventually got tired of micromanaging the villages. I'm glad to see they've gotten rid of a lot of that crap. I always tried to be good, but my pet was always reaking havoc in spite of my efforts to train it.

10/8/2005 5:32:36 PM

I like it. Kinda graphic intense. The second stage runs really slow on my 6800 gt. maybe that fix, fixes it.

10/8/2005 5:40:00 PM

^^There is even more micromanaging in this one. You have to control armies now also.

10/8/2005 5:40:37 PM

evil cow was the ultimate in hate. too bad the game got stale. i might try this if i see some major improvements. adding armies gives it more flare, but again im still not so sure.

10/8/2005 5:45:53 PM

^^ I know they have armies now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that B&W2 is more involved. I think the game could be great if they have simplified the process of caring for your pet/village/army. I realize that building up villages is sort of the whole point of the game, but I'll be damned if I feel like spending all day creating disciples and trying to teach the stupid cow not to eat its poo.

Of course I haven't played the game, so the army thing might very well be a pain in the ass.

10/8/2005 6:20:00 PM

army is the easiest thing to control in the game. grab their flag move it to the location or units you want attacked and shake the mouse to drop the flag. check back later to make sure they all haven't died

10/8/2005 7:03:43 PM

B&W 1 was badass... until I got tired of it at the second level because it took forever to expand my influence and I never stopped hearing "WE NEED MORE HOMES!"

10/8/2005 7:21:50 PM

i got sick of marrying people up

10/8/2005 7:39:43 PM

heh working for an hour to expand my influence 1 cm and then having it drop back a ton for some gay reasonw as teh best......

shrug id jsut get as close as i could and have evil cow send his fireball fury to the enemy in a completely mortar-like fashion.

10/8/2005 9:31:01 PM

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"^^ I know they have armies now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that B&W2 is more involved. I think the game could be great if they have simplified the process of caring for your pet/village/army. I realize that building up villages is sort of the whole point of the game, but I'll be damned if I feel like spending all day creating disciples and trying to teach the stupid cow not to eat its poo."

Much easier now. Your creature has little "thought bubbles" that pop up when it's going to do something. When you see one, you just click on him, and then either pet him or slap him. You can see his attitude toward that activity move along a slider.

Caring for the village still takes some micromanaging, but hell, that's the point of the game anyway...

I just picked this up today, and I ended up spending the last three hours just playing around on the first island.

10/9/2005 12:17:47 AM

I think my on-board sound card is the reason the game freezes the comp. Gonna have to give in and put the soundblaster 2 ZS shit back in and test it

10/9/2005 11:33:16 AM

I'm at the Japanese stage now.....

10/9/2005 1:47:12 PM

I'm just about to head there. Finished up the Norse stage at 4 AM.


If I stay on the Norse stage for awhile and build up tribute, will the stuff I buy carry over to my construction menu for the next stage?

[Edited on October 9, 2005 at 2:17 PM. Reason : c]

10/9/2005 2:17:27 PM

Quote :

"will the stuff I buy carry over to my construction menu for the next stage? "

yes

I beat the norce stage by force. I gave up trying to impress the bastards.
I beat the 1st japanese stage by impressiveness. I sent a large army up there and he pwn'd them all with some insane spell.

Im on the second Japanese stage. This one is kinda hard.

10/10/2005 8:21:47 AM

I ended up winning the Norse stage by impressiveness, even though I didn't mean to. By the time I was satisfied with my city, I'd taken over everything but the last city.

Then I sent the largest army I could gather up to conquer the last one. They walked right through the gates and started taking it over...and then his Creature came up and ripped my entire army to shreds.

So I ended up just finishing up the bit of Impressiveness I needed to win.

10/10/2005 9:16:19 AM

i beat all of norse with just impressiveness

10/10/2005 1:51:06 PM

I've gotten to land 5 with impressiveness alone. You just gotta arrange your buildings so they have maximum impressiveness. When you're holding the building shadow, it says how much impressiveness it will have if you put it down.

10/10/2005 2:02:42 PM

im wondering if this game will run okay on my 9700pro

10/10/2005 2:05:45 PM

where is the last fucking samurai statue? I realize that they point in the direction, but i can't find it.

10/10/2005 7:05:49 PM

man, I miss the first black and white...

I do not think getting black and white 2 will be a good idea for my time.

10/10/2005 7:20:12 PM

Good lord this game eats up all of my time. It is, however, a million times better than the original. The creature actually does what you want him to do, and you don't have to worry as much about your peoples.

That being said, I actually had to kinda pirate my retail copy to get it to work. EA is notorious for having faulty cd protection fuck up your game, and I couldn't get it to read past the splash screen for a while, even went back and got a second copy. Basically, I had to make an image off the cd and mount that to ru the game. I guess that is legal, don't really care if it isn't though because the box is sitting right here...

10/10/2005 8:23:08 PM

i'm still having the random computer locks up problem :-/

10/10/2005 8:29:53 PM