I have turned into an absolute juggernaut at Omaha8 recently. I've won or finished second in the last 10 or so omaha8 sngs i've played in and am up probably another $100 or so playing .25/.50-1/2 limit oh8 in the last few days. I'm playing like an hour a day and just rocking shit. You know what that tells me? That everyone on pokerstars sucks donkey cock at oh8.
5/21/2006 11:13:05 PM
Anyone else hate how Party Poker goes hand for hand for so long near the bubble?Last night I was in a tourny and we went hand for hand for over 5 levels(~1.5 hrs)...what a drag. It started going hand for hand with 70 left and top 50 payed (we started with 2056 people so this payout of 2.5% i thought was really strange). It really took the "poker" out of the game.
5/22/2006 8:34:13 AM
I am about to move money from neteller to partypoker and it wants a bonus code. Anyone got something they want to share with me?[Edited on May 22, 2006 at 11:23 PM. Reason : not a new player]
5/22/2006 11:22:57 PM
first deposit?wait until this weekend, MDay tends to bring out the boni[Edited on May 22, 2006 at 11:29 PM. Reason : .]
5/22/2006 11:28:46 PM
Alright, I'll just deposit a few bucks for now...
5/22/2006 11:31:34 PM
what can I pretty much guarentee will be my last hand ever on partypoker. I had to 10 hands left to clear my bonus, and I was pretty much going for broke, so oh well, but still***** Hand History for Game 4338490607 *****$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, May 22, 23:40:26 ET 2006Table Table 96501 (Real Money)Seat 10 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: StatsGenie ( $82.62 )Seat 3: Slais123 ( $117.90 )Seat 4: tatonehjoon ( $82.75 )Seat 5: hmjpete3 ( $149.90 )Seat 7: bman1965 ( $64.13 )Seat 9: skerr1632 ( $71.25 )Seat 6: tomloes ( $39.36 )Seat 10: jtbrandon25 ( $107.80 )Seat 2: J3yl6Ld64h ( $20 )Seat 8: sexciimike ( $108.65 )StatsGenie posts small blind [$0.50].J3yl6Ld64h posts big blind [$1].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to tomloes [ 5d 5s ]Slais123 folds.tatonehjoon calls [$1].hmjpete3 folds.tomloes calls [$1].bman1965 raises [$3].sexciimike calls [$3].skerr1632 folds.jtbrandon25 folds.StatsGenie folds.J3yl6Ld64h folds.tatonehjoon calls [$2].tomloes calls [$2].** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Kh, 2h ]tatonehjoon checks.tomloes checks.bman1965 bets [$6].sexciimike folds.tatonehjoon raises [$12].tomloes calls [$12].bman1965 raises [$12].tatonehjoon calls [$6].tomloes is all-In [$24.36]bman1965 calls [$18.36].tatonehjoon calls [$18.36].** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]tatonehjoon checks.bman1965 checks.** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]tatonehjoon checks.bman1965 is all-In [$24.77]tatonehjoon folds.tomloes shows [ 5d, 5s ] a full house, Fives full of twos.bman1965 shows [ 9c, 9d ] a full house, Nines full of twos.bman1965 wins $24.77 from side pot #1 with a full house, Nines full of twos.bman1965 wins $119.58 from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of twos.
5/22/2006 11:44:52 PM
never start a hand at a 100NL table with $40
5/23/2006 3:20:28 AM
^^a. Bankroll Management2. call, call, call...u played it way too passively...never slow play a board with a draw on it that beats your hand[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 8:23 AM. Reason : sp]
5/23/2006 8:23:20 AM
WTF are you talking about? Isn't he all in on the flop?
5/23/2006 9:41:25 AM
I have a question for all of you out there. It may seem like a no-brainer, but I still would like to know the thinking of others. Heres the scenario. First stage of a $100NL tourney. You are dealt either 8-8 or 9-9 (take your pick) and raise accordingly. You are faced with a large re-raise from the SB. The SB so far has played every pot and has not shown down a hand, but has won the pots with his aggressive play. You have a gut feeling your pair is WAY ahead, but at the very best he has two overs. Knowing this information (with him having two overs, and not an overpair) do you risk your tournament here with a race situation, assuming he WILL call?
5/23/2006 10:57:01 AM
it is basically what Noid saidhad he not bought in for only 40 bucks, he could have bet the pocket 9s guy out with a strong 2nd reraise after the initial one. Lets say he makes the reraise 50 more, it probably ends up him vs AK or KQ, with basically a lock99 doesnt call the 50+ or all in on top of the 2nd raisethats all i can see preventing it from happening
5/23/2006 10:57:40 AM
lol my bad misread the HH
5/23/2006 11:00:52 AM
Karim read up two posts.
5/23/2006 11:11:50 AM
well it really dependshonestly, I muck that, but then again, early in tournaments I only raise the mid pairs < 10 in the sb or bb because I DONT want to race so early in a tournament with an easily dominated hand. I prefer to play it a little slow and try to get in cheaply and flop a monster in the early stages. Honestly dude, where is it a good call for youhe has pp's less than or equal to 8, 2 unders, 1 over 1 underreally that is about itbecause there was no detail about the blind structure, stacks etc, I will assume this is a fairly large tourney and that the blinds go up accordingly and are not like pkr-style ridiculous.So in that case I fold and play for later in the tournament. Wait for a better spot. Again you could be easily dominated[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 11:34 AM. Reason : .]
5/23/2006 11:33:03 AM
FT Sweat....I'm chip leader with 5 left, $10+1 omaha on full tilt4216731Finished 2nd... went heads up ahead 3.5 to 1 and got sucked out on 3 straight hands[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 7:02 PM. Reason : boo]
5/23/2006 6:34:34 PM
The worst part about losing to a maniac is watching him give away his ill-gotten gains, two hands later in this example.a)***** Hand History for Game 4344980532 *****KWGUINNESS has left the table.0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Tue May 23 20:46:05 EDT 2006Table Table 97427 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8Seat 1: go1blue ( $127.80)Seat 2: Berge20 ( $191.50)Seat 4: whodare2lose ( $165.95)Seat 5: FittyGzz ( $76.52)Seat 7: Robotis ( $65.85)Seat 8: x4815162342 ( $126.80)Seat 9: NoidRoid ( $109)Seat 10: ray_ne1 ( $88.29)FittyGzz posts small blind (0.50)Robotis posts big blind (1)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to NoidRoid [ Kc, Kd ] x4815162342 folds.NoidRoid calls (1)ray_ne1 raises (4.50) to 4.50go1blue folds.Berge20 folds.whodare2lose folds.FittyGzz folds.Robotis calls (3.50)NoidRoid calls (3.50)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6d, Qs, Td ] Robotis checks.NoidRoid checks.ray_ne1 bets (13.30)Robotis folds.NoidRoid raises (104.50) to 104.50NoidRoid is all-In.ray_ne1 calls (70.49)ray_ne1 is all-In.** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9c ] ** Dealing River ** : [ Qh ] Creating Main Pot with $178.58 with ray_ne1Creating Side Pot 1 with $20.71 with NoidRoid** Summary **Main Pot: $178.58 | Side Pot 1: $20.71 | Rake: $3Board: [ 6d Qs Td 9c Qh ]go1blue balance $127.80, didn't bet (folded)Berge20 balance $191.50, didn't bet (folded)whodare2lose balance $165.95, didn't bet (folded)FittyGzz balance $76.02, lost $0.50 (folded) Robotis balance $61.35, lost $4.50 (folded) x4815162342 balance $126.80, didn't bet (folded)NoidRoid balance $20.71, bet $109, collected $20.71, lost -$88.29 [ Kc Kd ] [ two pairs, kings and queens -- Kc,Kd,Qs,Qh,Td ]ray_ne1 balance $178.58, bet $88.29, collected $178.58, net +$90.29 [ Jc Kh ] [ a straight, nine to king -- Kh,Qs,Jc,Td,9c ]b)***** Hand History for Game 4344986856 *****0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Tue May 23 20:46:50 EDT 2006Table Table 97427 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8Seat 1: go1blue ( $127.80)Seat 2: Berge20 ( $191.50)Seat 4: whodare2lose ( $165.95)Seat 5: FittyGzz ( $76.02)Seat 7: Robotis ( $61.35)Seat 8: x4815162342 ( $126.80)Seat 9: NoidRoid ( $20.71)Seat 10: ray_ne1 ( $178.58)Robotis posts small blind (0.50)x4815162342 posts big blind (1)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to NoidRoid [ 9d, Qc ] NoidRoid folds.ray_ne1 calls (1)go1blue calls (1)Berge20 folds.whodare2lose folds.FittyGzz calls (1)Robotis calls (0.50)x4815162342 checks.** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ks, 8d, 7s ] Robotis checks.x4815162342 checks.ray_ne1 bets (4.75)go1blue folds.FittyGzz folds.Robotis raises (10.31) to 10.31x4815162342 folds.ray_ne1 calls (5.56)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ] Robotis checks.ray_ne1 bets (24.37)Robotis raises (50.04) to 50.04Robotis is all-In.ray_ne1 calls (25.67)** Dealing River ** : [ 2s ] Creating Main Pot with $122.70 with Robotis** Summary **Main Pot: $122.70 | | Rake: $3Board: [ Ks 8d 7s 8h 2s ]go1blue balance $126.80, lost $1 (folded) Berge20 balance $191.50, didn't bet (folded)whodare2lose balance $165.95, didn't bet (folded)FittyGzz balance $75.02, lost $1 (folded) fishfrier balance $100, sits outRobotis balance $122.70, bet $61.35, collected $122.70, net +$61.35 [ 7c 8c ] [ a full house, Eights full of sevens -- 8c,8d,8h,7c,7s ]x4815162342 balance $125.80, lost $1 (folded) NoidRoid balance $100, didn't bet (folded)ray_ne1 balance $117.23, lost $61.35 [ 3h Js ] [ a pair of eights -- Ks,Js,8d,8h,7s ]woot
5/23/2006 9:12:39 PM
anyone here a PokerXFactor member? if so would your recommend it and is it worth the money?
5/23/2006 9:15:18 PM
Ok- Got another scenario from a $50 tourney. 3 hours in the tourney the blinds are 30/60. Im sitting with 400 chips. Avg stack is prolly 175-225. 8 people left, im in 4th position. I am dealt 3-3 and raise to 150. Folds to the SB who thinks for a bit and raises me all in. He is the chip leader. I start thinking.I ask if he has AK and he turns red and gives a fake smile. I now know at this point I have him beat. I AM trying to win this tourney. Who makes the call and who folds?
5/23/2006 10:19:52 PM
You played it horribly. At this point you have to call. You just shoved in over 1/3 of your chips. You have no other option. What were you going to do on the flop when there are 3 overs? Push all in? If that's the case, then you might as well have just done it preflop and saved yourself some trouble.
5/23/2006 10:34:35 PM
I agree with ^, but I have some questions....How is the average stack size only 3-4 times the BB? Are people sitting there with less than/near 60?When you say you're in 4th position, you mean in chips or in the hand?This is why I ask…With the average stack at 200, and you having twice that, it means you’re probably in good shape compared to the others. So you’re in 4th position in the hand, and not in for anything. This also suggests that 4 people (at least) will have less than 4* the BB. So at some point, they will have to go with anything.When you’re holding 33, simple odds are that everyone (or at least 6 of the other 7) are holding 2 overs, and you’re still only 54% against hands like T4o. So if one of the small stacks go with crap, but crap >3, you’re looking at losing a significant chunk of your stack if they hit.Even limping here, you’re risking 1/6.67 of your stack. By raising for more than a third of your stack, you’ve committed yourself.Hence why I’d fold this pre-flop here, given the situation as I read it.[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 11:12 PM. Reason : details]
5/23/2006 10:45:46 PM
Decided against adding money when I'd get nothing for it and stupidly sign up for a PP freeroll + $300. (1 am)Five hours later I place second (11MM chips to 6MM chips at final hand) I push all in with top pair (KTo) after the turn, he has 66. Catches the two outer on the river.Oh and I know it's not a big win ($32) since half the players were lame ducks (being a late freeroll) but it was a full 7500 person tourney. I'm probably prouder of myself than I should be.[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]
5/23/2006 10:52:59 PM
Blind structure for this tournament was terrible. Blinds doubled every 18 min. We all started with 200 chips and blinds were at 1/2.Sean- 2 people had stacks less than the blinds at this point. The chip leader had 500 chips to my 400. I was actually 4th in chips and 2nd to act.King Pro David- What do you do? Knowing you have him beat after he re-raises? You were right, i am basically pot committed at this point, but in making the call knowing i was ahead i dont regret it. Thanks for the input.
5/23/2006 11:21:35 PM
5/23/2006 11:28:06 PM
That still doesn't make sense... how is the average stack 200?With 8 people in, that means only 1600 chips are in play. If you're in 4th with 400, and the CL has 500, then how can 2 others have greater than 400 each? I'm guessing others have busted, and the average stack is more like what you have.As for your logic... If you're going only on "I'm ahead" then it's an auto-call, and not worth posting. You'll win 5.4/10 times, and complain 100% of the time when you lose.[Edited on May 23, 2006 at 11:32 PM. Reason : a]
5/23/2006 11:30:03 PM
chip leader had around 600-650. my bad on that. 2nd was the guy i went in on the hand with, he had 500. then me with 400. then all the short stacks.
5/23/2006 11:36:03 PM
1st hand of the 3AM $10 on full tiltFull Tilt Poker Game #660021847: $10 + $1 Tournament (4227588), Table 20 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:01:00 ET - 2006/05/24kamakaze9901 posts the small blind of 15RICHMAN13 posts the big blind of 30The button is in seat #9*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to DrOldSchool [Ah As]DrOldSchool raises to 105Vegasbone foldsDrKnow foldsbxbmber raises to 60087878 foldsAkoonastom foldsbuddhababy foldskamakaze9901 foldsRICHMAN13 foldsDrOldSchool raises to 1,500, and is all inbxbmber calls 900, and is all inDrOldSchool shows [Ah As]bxbmber shows [Qc Ac]*** FLOP *** [4d Qs Qh]*** TURN *** [4d Qs Qh] [7s]*** RIVER *** [4d Qs Qh 7s] [4h]DrOldSchool shows two pair, Aces and Queensbxbmber shows a full house, Queens full of Foursbxbmber wins the pot (3,045) with a full house, Queens full of Foursbuddhababy: ouchDrOldSchool stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 3,045 | Rake 0Board: [4d Qs Qh 7s 4h]Seat 1: kamakaze9901 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 2: RICHMAN13 (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 3: DrOldSchool showed [Ah As] and lost with two pair, Aces and QueensSeat 4: Vegasbone didn't bet (folded)Seat 5: DrKnow didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: bxbmber showed [Qc Ac] and won (3,045) with a full house, Queens full of FoursSeat 7: 87878 didn't bet (folded)Seat 8: Akoonastom didn't bet (folded)Seat 9: buddhababy (button) didn't bet (folded)
5/24/2006 3:03:31 AM
Since I have like 8/9 weeks left in town, I am hoping to get a game going once again before I leave. Here's what I am thinking...I'm favoring Sunday nights, but Mon or Tues could work as well. 8 PM start$.50/1 or $1/2 BlindsVariable buy-in, with unlimited reloads, cash game NLHENo rakeI know my kitchen isn't the sexiest place to play, but I could try moving the table to the living room if it helps.Let me know if you'd be interested...
5/24/2006 7:14:12 AM
I'm down, but why just Sun, Mon, Tues?
5/24/2006 8:22:25 AM
^Im sure he doesnt want to interfere with the mass of other games that are going on in Raleigh/Cary.^^ Sean- How do you like the switch from Stars to FULL Tilt?
5/24/2006 8:31:54 AM
Hand question. (Hand in question happened at a $25 max buy-in NL table, .10-.25 blinds)2nd to act preflop with KK. Fold - (ME)Raise to 4xBB($1) - Fold - RERAISE to $24 - folds to me.I have no information on this guy. Zero.Question is, do I take the kings and throw the money in the middle and say fuck me if they are aces, or fold since I only have $1 in the pot.To make this question relevant, 4xBB raise met with a 96xBB raise... If you play $200 tables, This is a $200 raise. Would you risk it here?[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 10:14 AM. Reason : relevant to my level. ]
5/24/2006 10:13:20 AM
Are you at a 6 handed or 9 handed table?Auto Call on the 6 handed.If you are 9 handed you may want to think. Technically only one hand beats your preflop and for $24 i will make the call.If put in that same situation in a 1/2 game, even if its 9 handed, I will most likely make the call too. Its almost impossible to lay down KK preflop when only facing one opponent.
5/24/2006 10:24:14 AM
10 handed. And like I said, it is only $24 for me. This is a theory question, so if you play $1-$2 and buy in for $400, then this is a $400 call in your situation.[Edited on May 24, 2006 at 10:36 AM. Reason : 10, not 9. derrr.]
5/24/2006 10:35:48 AM
I definately think about the call. But you have to think, who would play AA like that? He is only going to gain my small raise and the blinds. Not worth it for him. I really put him on an pair like JJ or QQ, where he doesnt want to see a flop.But yea, in a 1/2 cash game, if i raise to 8 and a guy goes over the top for $200 I am going to call. Really hard to put a guy on AA here.
5/24/2006 10:58:14 AM
unfortunally it's going to depend on the player, because i've sent plenty of idiots go WAY the hell over the top, making it look like they don't want a call, and then flip aces
5/24/2006 11:07:38 AM
^ I agree, especially at the level in question for me.
5/24/2006 11:17:55 AM
what did you end up doing? and what did he have if you called?
5/24/2006 11:34:59 AM
I folded only have $1 in the pot, and currently down about $40. He SAID he had 9's and never knows how to play them(did not show). Ironically, he was also on my other 2 tables, so I watched his play on all 3. Up on all of them, solid player, no bad plays stick out, but some above average ones did... I am not sure what he had. But I think letting him have the $1 was the better part of valor.
5/24/2006 11:59:30 AM
Which site were you playing on?
5/24/2006 12:02:25 PM
I don't normally post here and this is small stakes for most of you, but taking a stab at some PLO8 so figured I'd ask here what I did wrong with the following hand. My reasoning is below. Ben I know you play a lot of PLO8, some comments would be appreciated. My name is chanchiya (go figure).#Game No : 4345206302 ***** Hand History for Game 4345206302 *****PL Omaha Hi-Lo $11 Buy-in Trny:23975373 Level:2 Blinds(30/60) - Tuesday, May 23, 21:09:31 ET 2006Table Captains Table (Real Money)Seat 10 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8 Seat 7: chanchiya ( $3553 )Seat 5: usurper111 ( $6594 )Seat 10: NDJROXY ( $1894 )Seat 6: geosplash ( $231 )Seat 3: fishking21 ( $1854 )Seat 4: mapleleaf22 ( $1880 )Seat 2: DWhitfield ( $2054 )Seat 8: theone10314A ( $1940 )Trny:23975373 Level:2Blinds(30/60)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to chanchiya [ 2d 4s 6h 3d ]mapleleaf22 calls [60].usurper111 calls [60].geosplash calls [60].chanchiya calls [60].theone10314A calls [60].NDJROXY folds.DWhitfield calls [30].fishking21 checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, 4c, Ac ]DWhitfield checks.fishking21 checks.mapleleaf22 checks.usurper111 bets [150].geosplash is all-In [171]chanchiya raises [1083].theone10314A is all-In [1880]>You have options at Table 95555 Table!.DWhitfield folds.goddamnit why do i get in these hands...fishking21 folds.mapleleaf22 folds.usurper111 folds.chanchiya calls [797].** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]because you cant check down** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]chanchiya shows [ 2d, 4s, 6h, 3d ] two pairs, sixes and fours.chanchiya shows 6,4,3,2,A for low.theone10314A shows [ 5d, 2c, 3h, Td ] a straight, two to six.theone10314A shows 5,4,3,2,A for low.geosplash shows [ Qc, 7d, Qh, 8s ] a pair of queens.geosplash shows 8,7,4,3,A for low.theone10314A wins 1709 chips from side pot #1 with a straight, two to six.theone10314A wins Lo (1709 chips) from side pot #1 with 5,4,3,2,A.theone10314A wins 542 chips from the main pot with a straight, two to six.theone10314A wins Lo (541 chips) from the main pot with 5,4,3,2,A.geosplash finished in eighth place.I played because it was unraised and I was in late position with a lot of money in the pot. I keep thinking I did the right thing, with the nut low and top two pair on the flop. As soon as the two low stacks went all in, I figured they had the low, but my top two were good, and if not, they had a set and I was only losing a little bit of money. That is why I raised, to get rid of anyone else on the draw, but instaed I got raised and pot committed.
5/24/2006 12:46:58 PM
I am not an omaha expert, and probably not an averageplayer either, lol. but just looking at it, the 3 counterfeited you, without that you 3/4th's of the pot. 2-3-5 were the only cards that really hurt you. a queen lost you the high side though. looks like you played it right and got rivered.
5/24/2006 1:05:07 PM
5/24/2006 2:41:49 PM
wow.i havent played on stars in over 6 weeks and got this email today.Hello,PokerStars has become aware of two or more players who were in violation of ourpoker room rules. You were involved in one or more hands with these players. Youhave received a credit as a result. To confirm your credit, log onto yourPokerStars account, go to the 'Cashier' screen and click the 'History' button. Yourshare will be shown as "Credit Purchase", followed by the amount of the credit.I regret that we are not at liberty identify the specific games or players inquestion. Suffice to say that the players involved have been barred from the siteand you will not encounter them again.Likewise we will not go into detail regarding the method used to calculate yourshare of the funds distributed. I can say that it is based on the net amount wonusing unfair tactics, combined with the number of hands that you played at a tablewhere unfair play was taking place.The integrity of the games at PokerStars is of paramount importance to us and wewill not abide unfair play in our games. We work hard to police our games to assureour players of a fair, secure place to play. In those rare cases where collusionhas actually occurred, we make sure that any players affected are compensatedappropriately. Thank you for your continued play here on PokerStars. Please do not hesitate to letus know any time we can be of help. Regards,SteveWPokerStars Support Teamthey credited me with $391.i really, really want to know who it was and what game it was.
5/26/2006 7:19:32 PM
o my bad d00d
5/26/2006 7:48:10 PM
5/28/2006 4:54:44 AM
Haha. I love you guys that never fold KK preflop. $200 raise? I would easily fold.
5/28/2006 12:04:07 PM
All I'm saying is that you will win enough of the time for it to be a profitable play. Having KK and going up against AA just doesn't happen all that often. Don't get me wrong, I know it does happen and I know it has happened to me but it is really rare.
5/28/2006 12:30:57 PM
If you win $10 4/5 times and lose $200 1/5, then its not really worth it.
5/28/2006 2:32:32 PM
1/2 no rake in N. Raleigh tonight... thinking 830ish. Let me know if interested. Will have hockey game on while playing.
5/28/2006 2:55:37 PM
5/28/2006 6:00:22 PM
looking to get a regular poker game going at my place, maybe once a week or once every two weeks. BUT, its dealers choice... NOT just Hold Emand its really laid back, really relaxed, not high stakes at all
5/28/2006 11:17:23 PM