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packboozie
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Literally playing one of the worst teams in college basketball today

Bethune-Cookman 353 in KenPom, 319 NET. No reason to ever schedule teams that could be 200+ and we will end with possibly 5.

12/8/2021 1:41:24 PM

Dynasty2004
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tomorrow.

12/8/2021 1:45:39 PM

Kickstand
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Bethune Cookman will be the 2nd worst loss win since the Central loss

12/8/2021 1:49:06 PM

dmspack
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They’re so bad I can’t even find any mention online of this game being played tonight.

12/8/2021 2:17:46 PM

jocristian
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I'm not always a fan of Boozie's hyperbole, but he isn't wrong. Filling our schedule with a bunch of shit basically means a middling team like ours has no chance of coming out of a bubble situation which is already optimistic.

12/8/2021 2:21:11 PM

rwoody
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We play the #1 team in an OOC matchilup this weekend

12/8/2021 2:30:20 PM

TreeTwista10
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60% of our OOC games are against top-100 teams. If Keatts were any good, he would schedule 100% of our OOC games vs top-25 teams!

12/8/2021 2:32:39 PM

dmspack
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While I agree there’s no real reason to play a team this bad…I don’t think it’s gonna matter much this year

12/8/2021 2:38:57 PM

justinh524
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"we will end with possibly 5."


Look we're forced to play Pitt and Virginia.

12/8/2021 2:46:35 PM

jocristian
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C'mon dudes, obviously noone is saying that we play only top 25 OOC. There is a giant fuckin difference between filling out a decent non-con schedule with 300+ ranked teams and sub 200 teams. It makes a big difference in the NET, Kenpom, RPI, etc.

What's the problem with calling it out now, rather than on the off chance a miracle happens and we are on the outside of the bubble looking in because our SOS is awful? It's not like Bethune Cookman and Central Connecticut being 300+ are some sort of weird unforeseen surprise either.

12/8/2021 2:55:42 PM

rwoody
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We call it out each year, but this year seems markedly better. Partially bc of luck maybe? But still.

12/8/2021 3:01:15 PM

Dynasty2004
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Maybe they knew we would be trash.

12/8/2021 3:09:37 PM

justinh524
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This was already covered in the first page of this thread. 6/10 games the school had a say in scheduling were top 100 teams last year (Nebraska wasn't but we also had no choice in playing them.)

This schedule is fine. Bitching about the schedule tells me either you're a horrible troll or you have a weird axe to grind with Keatts.

12/8/2021 3:19:01 PM

tower
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I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert in NET scheduling but our NET is shit tier so the problem is either the schedule or the team or both

12/8/2021 9:19:20 PM

justinh524
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My guess is that how we've barely won every game plays into that. Also, early season NET isn't exactly accurate, remember that time we were ranked insanely high at roughly this point in the season?

Also, the tournament selection committee is going to put whoever they want in the tournament no matter what their NET ranking is, they've proven this over and over since it came into existence. They'll use it as a reason to include one team and then completely ignore it and invite a team that isn't even close NET-wise

12/8/2021 11:15:37 PM

TreeTwista10
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I think Duke was NET 49 a week or so ago which was like 8th in the ACC. NET is the best!

12/9/2021 12:40:44 AM

dmspack
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NET, like RPI, feels like a flawed metric.

(Not that I think we should have a better NET ranking this year. We kinda suck)

12/9/2021 6:43:53 AM

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In celebration of tonight's game at Reynolds, here's a documentary about the stadium from 1999 (50th anniversary). I don't recall seeing this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwuXO--4Q38

12/9/2021 1:33:42 PM

Dynasty2004
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"Full Purdue/NC State scout ready tomorrow, but something to monitor with Ebenezer Dowuona, one of the best development stories in the ACC

Dowuona on: NCSU +73 in 213 mins, allowing 1.0 PPP on defense, per Pivot Analysis

Dowuona off: NCSU -26 in 127 mins, allowing 1.14 PPP"

12/9/2021 1:36:51 PM

tower
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"remember that time we were ranked insanely high at roughly this point in the season?"

yeah, we finished that year ranked 33rd and then got left out of the tournament because our RPI wouldve been like 90 and the committee basically judged people by rpi metrics without using the rpi

and id guess ^ is as much about dowuna (who has been good) as it is about gibson

12/9/2021 6:50:03 PM

dmspack
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Seems like they use NET to rank/sort your opponents (good wins vs bad losses vs quality losses etc) without actually taking into account what your specific NET rank is.

12/9/2021 7:29:10 PM

justinh524
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hElLeMs TaKeS bAd ShOtS, HaYeS tAkEs GoOd ShOtS.

12/9/2021 7:56:23 PM

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12/9/2021 8:08:37 PM

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"Literally playing one of the worst teams in college basketball today"


Bethune Cookman beat Bryant, who beat Brown, who beat Bradley, who beat Northern Iowa, who beat St Bonaventure, who beat Marquette, who beat Illinois, who is ranked 11th in the nation.

for King Transitive Property Boozie

12/9/2021 8:21:02 PM

rwoody
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"No. 1 Purdue going down to the wire at Rutgers probably not great news for its next opponent which is *checks notes* NC State. https://t.co/fCL1wCHj1O"


And the lost

12/9/2021 11:01:28 PM

justinh524
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But i was told NC State shit no longer exists

12/9/2021 11:07:00 PM

dmspack
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“Best case” for Gantt is mid-late January according to KK

12/10/2021 12:52:58 PM

TreeTwista10
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a few days old, but Seabron got conference player of the week and Terq got conference freshman of the week last week

12/10/2021 2:49:47 PM

rwoody
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""It's important. I'm excited that we get the opportunity. I'm not sure I've ever had the chance to play the No. 1 team...It's a really good team. It's a great opportunity, but a huge challenge for us." -- Keatts"


Dang is this true? Interesting

12/10/2021 3:05:45 PM

dmspack
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Yeah I’m surprised none of the games vs UNC, Duke, or UVa were ever while they were #1

12/10/2021 4:31:17 PM

Dynasty2004
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We played and beat AZ and Duke his first year but they were No2 at the time.

12/10/2021 4:45:04 PM

Dynasty2004
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UVA and Duke the following seasons were also No 2 when we played them

12/10/2021 4:45:59 PM

dmspack
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Wow forgot all about the Arizona game. I think Braxton had like 20 in that game.

12/10/2021 5:07:44 PM

packboozie
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"60% of our OOC games are against top-100 teams. If Keatts were any good, he would schedule 100% of our OOC games vs top-25 teams"


I never understand how you post such bullshit and people just ignore it. Current NET/KenPom rankings of OOC Teams:

Bucknell 324, 316
Colgate 157, 132
Central Connecticut 340, 348
Oklahoma State 62, 44
Texas Southern 189, 195
La Tech 88, 84
Nebraska 231, 117
Bethune Cookman 319, 351
Purdue 6,2
Richmond 101, 63
Wright State 291, 163

So if you're keeping score here by NET 3 top 100, 3 100-199, 2 200-299, 3 300+

I don't see anyone possibly defends an ACC school playing this ever.

[Edited on December 11, 2021 at 1:29 AM. Reason : KenPom has our schedule rank at 323 but sure that's "fine"]

12/11/2021 1:28:12 AM

TreeTwista10
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Preseason rankings had 6/10 in the top-100. Are you an idiot?

lol, it's the most packboozie thing ever to criticize 101st ranked Richmond as not being a top-100 team

[Edited on December 11, 2021 at 3:17 AM. Reason : you hate your life, and that's ok]

12/11/2021 3:15:52 AM

packboozie
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No they didn't. I told you all on page one it was a shit schedule and teams like Wright State would not be top 100. Last year was a fluke year with COVID. You guys will argue anything. We literally have played one of the worst schedules in DI.

[Edited on December 11, 2021 at 10:55 AM. Reason : Last year's rankings does not equal preseason]

12/11/2021 10:39:37 AM

Money_Jones
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ESPN app says game tomorrow is on big 10 network, is it on tv locally? Or acc network extra or something?

12/11/2021 6:15:52 PM

dmspack
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No, just Big 10 network I think.

Direct tv gets it. YouTube tv gets it. I think dish network might.

12/11/2021 6:25:33 PM

justinh524
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Yeah it's on big 10 network.

12/11/2021 6:41:50 PM

KeB
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Also showing on Fox Sports app

12/12/2021 1:45:53 PM

ncsuallday
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anyone have a stream? I'm on a flight trying to watch haha

12/12/2021 2:03:07 PM

dmspack
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I know it’s the Big 10 network and Purdue is really good but man these announcers are really just drooling over Purdue.

Also, Purdue obviously has a giant height advantage. But we cant get a foul call at all when we take the ball inside.

[Edited on December 12, 2021 at 2:57 PM. Reason : A]

12/12/2021 2:56:52 PM

justinh524
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^^Yeah use your tv provider credentials to watch on the fox sports app

12/12/2021 2:57:39 PM

dmspack
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Believe it or not, when we make shots we’re not a bad team!

12/12/2021 3:24:37 PM

stowaway
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Hey B1G Network, your graphics suck and you shouldn’t squeeze the image.

12/12/2021 3:31:52 PM

dmspack
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We cannot buy a foul at all. Refs mostly letting them play on both ends, which works to our benefit since we’re so thin up front. But it’d be nice to get to the line on a few of these empty drives to the basket

12/12/2021 3:44:23 PM

HaLo
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Such a weak foul call there

12/12/2021 3:46:17 PM

dmspack
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Plenty of time left in the game. But it’s really impressive how good our offense has been with Seabron not having a monster game.

12/12/2021 3:52:24 PM

justinh524
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big oof dowuona

12/12/2021 4:09:02 PM

dmspack
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Williams is so good for Purdue

12/12/2021 4:10:39 PM

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