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the president HAS to provide or should try his BEST and BEST EFFORT to provide?

you really expect the the president and his staff at a university will know what every Tom, Dick and Harry are up to on a Wednesday night?

Why isn't Obama, the CA state Governor and the CEO of the company in CA that got shot up last week on the hook for the shooting?

12/6/2015 10:21:10 AM

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Yeah they are on the hook and I'm assuming Obama's address tonight won't be to blame the victims for being shot.

12/6/2015 11:31:49 AM

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The difference is those victims are actually victims... because, you know, something actually happened to them.

When I criticize Mizzou I'm not victim blaming, because there are no victims, only hubristic race-baiting brats and gullible misled liberals. Tim Wolfe, the Chancellor, common sense, and free speech are the only actual victims from this (and the janitor who had to clean up the anti-semitic symbol).

12/7/2015 2:07:14 PM

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Even if you don't believe racism exists, you have to suspend disbelief in order to understand how the overwhelming majority of people who believe racism is a legitimate threat with legitimate victims would see that as victim blaming.

The whole "I disagree with the concept of racism therefore everyone who bases anything on a premise that racism exists is crazy" argument is pretty naive.

12/7/2015 3:36:14 PM

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"Even if you don't believe racism exists, you have to suspend disbelief in order to understand how the overwhelming majority of people who believe racism is a legitimate threat with legitimate victims would see that as victim blaming.

The whole "I disagree with the concept of racism therefore everyone who bases anything on a premise that racism exists is crazy" argument is pretty naive."


Are you trolling or really this bad at reading comprehension? This straw man argument of "racism doesn't exist" is getting old.

Understand the difference between actual cases of racism, and false cases where people lie to get attention.

The majority of TWW-HuffPost-Social-Justice-Warrior-Liberal-Brigade was 100% blindly defending this stupidity. Sure they shut up after the lies were exposed and the demands made public, but this is a great example of a false narrative getting blind support from gullible liberals that should use more common sense. Unfortunately the Echo Chamber appeals to the knee-jerk emotional reaction of liberalism in the absense of evidence/facts/reality/common sense. We all know how liberals react to click bait with an emotional appeal... VICTIMS! OPPRESSED! HELP THEM! YOURE RACIST!!!!

#FalseNarrative
#DontReadHuffPost

12/7/2015 5:50:47 PM

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When I say the existence of racism, I'm not just saying something that happens to a few people here and there, I'm specifically referring to the widely accepted notion that racism is something that has affected all minorities in one way or another at some point in their lives. A notion that I know you disagree with completely.

12/7/2015 5:58:05 PM

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When you said "specifically" I got excited... but then you "specifically" referenced the vague "concept" of racism.

I don't disagree with the fact that people have different experiences/advantages/disadvantages based on race, I just disagree with using "racism exists" as justification for behaving like a brain-dead idiot, like liberals ITT are so fond of. #IStandWithMizzou

I also think it's despicable when liars "cry wolf" with such sensitive issues because it misleads gullible people with good intentions, and only causes division... taking attention away from real tangible problems that afflict black people disproportionately.

Furthermore, your ignorance in not being able to separate actual racism from grandstanding liars and the media pushing a false-narrative, contributes to the problem.

12/7/2015 6:53:40 PM

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you're right about some people being liars. Lets pretend all of the protesters at mizzou were lying and somehow grew up in missouri without ever actually being victims of racism. Its still the responsibility of the president to acknowledge the actual victims and not make statements to the false-narrative victims that construes insensitivity to the actual victims.

If they baited him into saying something dumb and he said something dumb, them being wrong still doesn't excuse his statement. Thats the double standard of being a public figure.

12/7/2015 7:03:32 PM

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how is the president ( or anyone for that matter ) supposed know the difference between the lies and real instances of blatant racism? Are the protesters lives better now that the head of the school quit?

why would anyone make up allegations of racism? There is an underlying issue with the moral compass of a person that would do that.

and was there an instance on that campus where racism prevented anyone from getting an education? (the reason for the University and the only reason anyone should be there...to become a contributing member of society) If someone shouted something offensive, wrote something mean, knocked over a mailbox, you don't protest....you go on with your life. It ain't always easy. Racism is everywhere, you don't fire people just because you heard about it.

12/7/2015 10:04:01 PM

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"Sure they shut up after the lies were exposed and the demands made p"


You forgot dude they shut up when some real news besides the Kardasians surfaced, as in the terrorist attacks in France. Without the media attention they gave up their fake struggle of oppression. Not, however, with some classy tweets saying " #FuckFrance" and crying that the French shouldn't still their spotlight since they had slaves in 1796. Lol


So E man and moron how do you propose we fix your perceived racial injustice specifically targeting African Americans. We have cities like Baltimore that are mostly black, with a black mayor, black police chief, and majority black city council. Alas, African Americans continue to squalor in the ghetto. If they are truly victims like you imply, it is their own black peers holding them back!

How do you propose we excel all African Americans in to prosperity. Universal diversity classes for all? Bigger welfare checks? Ultra affirmative action? Mandating white suburbanites forfeit homes to give them to African-American families?

12/7/2015 10:46:34 PM

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"how is the president ( or anyone for that matter ) supposed know the difference between the lies and real instances of blatant racism? Are the protesters lives better now that the head of the school quit?
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He's not supposed to know but the point is that he's not supposed to try to know and definitely not supposed to come off as someone who denies its existence.

Think about rape since its probably much easier for anyone to believe rape exists on every college campus. If a female who had not been raped, asked the president in public "what are you doing to protect women who are being raped on campus?" and he replied with " women are lying about being raped" or something to that affect, it would be just as damaging because it conveys insensitivity towards the real rape victims which certainly do exist on that campus even if they are not present at that moment and even if they are silent and not part of the actual protests.

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"and was there an instance on that campus where racism prevented anyone from getting an education? "

Keeping them from getting an education and diminishing their education are two different things.

The racism you are saying does not exist may indeed be gone. The idea that someone would be kept from getting an education entirely seems like something that is long gone. Today's racism is dealing with more subtle problems that can severely affect student performance, psychological well-being and the overall educational experience. These include but are not limited to microagressions, stereotype threat, diversity and the presence racist traditions.

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"So E man and moron how do you propose we fix your perceived racial injustice specifically targeting African Americans."

For colleges, hiring leadership that is well-versed in these issues and at the very minimum acknowledges the problem is the first job requirement. From there, they can provide their faculty and students with diversity training, offer affinity groups, and remove racist traditions from student life. This is happening across the country with a lot of momentum thanks in some cases to student-led initiatives and protests.

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" We have cities like Baltimore that are mostly black, with a black mayor, black police chief, and majority black city council. Alas, African Americans continue to squalor in the ghetto. If they are truly victims like you imply, it is their own black peers holding them back!"

I understand how you could arrive at this conclusion and although the notion that it is not just "white people" holding blacks back is true, saying this about Baltimore is not accurate and is also a flagrant rejection of history.

Black didn't arrive in the ghettos when blacks were in charge of the city. In fact, blacks were only allowed to live in ghettos during segregation in America. This was also the time when home ownership generated the most family wealth. When housing loan bans and neighborhood segregation policies were lifted, blacks could not suddenly move to the neighborhoods they could afford several decades prior as home values had gone up. Blacks have found themselves essentially stuck in these "ghetto" areas of the cities with poor environmental health conditions, as well as schools. All of these make it difficult to simply "decide" to escape.

Theres not much a black mayor, council, att general or president can do to fix these systemic issues that most of the country was built on and are deeply anchored in society.

12/8/2015 1:22:12 PM

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Also, Baltimore and Chicago and most places like that have huge corruption issues in the government, including the police department. Police corruption erodes public trust. Without a trustworthy law enforcement, people cannot properly work with police to fight crime which ends up producing an environment that is not safe for children to learn. Its all connected.
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"How do you propose we excel all African Americans in to prosperity. Universal diversity classes for all? Bigger welfare checks? Ultra affirmative action? Mandating white suburbanites forfeit homes to give them to African-American families?"

It shouldn't really be just about African Americans specifically. It should be about providing quality health and education to all in safe learning environments regardless of gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, or class.

12/8/2015 1:40:06 PM

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"Theres not much a black mayor, council, att general or president can do to fix these systemic issues that most of the country was built on and are deeply anchored in society."


Yet here you are defending the hysteric lynch mob that sacked a university president and chancellor as if these vague "issues" are their fault.

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"microagressions"


lmao

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12/8/2015 2:17:08 PM

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^Acknowledging the problem is easy and is the required minimum. Fixing it is going to take decades and a national effort to educate people on things you think are harmless like microagressions.

http://diversity.arizona.edu/sites/diversity/files/stereotype_threat_overview.pdf

12/8/2015 2:48:34 PM

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"Black didn't arrive in the ghettos when blacks were in charge of the city. In fact, blacks were only allowed to live in ghettos during segregation in America. This was also the time when home ownership generated the most family wealth. When housing loan bans and neighborhood segregation policies were lifted, blacks could not suddenly move to the neighborhoods they could afford several decades prior as home values had gone up. Blacks have found themselves essentially stuck in these "ghetto" areas of the cities with poor environmental health conditions, as well as schools. All of these make it difficult to simply "decide" to escape. "


So are you insinuating that part of your plan while the non-blacks are going to diversity classes ( to learn of the struggles of African-Americans and how they are different), is to send African-Americans to de-victimization classes? Here they can learn that it is 2015 and through a little hard work and education (even if it merely having their kids get more education) that they do not have to be stuck in the ghetto. So education would be around debunking that loan bans continue to exist, that they don't have to stay in the part of town they live, and that jobs are available since the "white establishment" doesn't want to discourage them from succeeding but actually wants them too!?

12/8/2015 3:32:16 PM

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I think it would help to "fix it" if you could actually define what "it" is. Or at least differentiate between "it" and false narratives.

As we have seen with this Mizzou false-narrative, vague references to "oppression" or "racism" seem to provide liberals with a "I'm a victim" trump card to reason/evidence/facts/reality and there is rarely anything of substance behind these accusations (especially when they are outright proven lies).

If you are going to cite "micro-aggressions" or "self-fulfilling prophecy based on stereotypes" as "it", you can take Johnathan Butler's demanded 100 hours of "White people are racist" courses all you want, but it won't change a thing. Unless we all become 1 raced blobs (like the southpark episode where immigrants come from the future) there will always be majorities and minorities and cultural differences both negative and positive. That's reality, and being offended by it doesn't fix anything.

Regarding the Stereotype Threat reference... if people are of the mindset "people think my race is worse at this, oh no now I'm nervous and suck" maybe they need mandatory courses explaining to them their race doesn't matter?

12/8/2015 3:43:57 PM

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Instead of trying to make people think those things are true, we need to focus on actually making them true. Right now, a lot of people don't have proper nutrition, education and even clean water. No matter how much we reduce racism, that isn't going to take lead out of the blood of black children, nor is it going to make air more breathable. These problems affect blacks disproportionately because of the history of racism but even if you completely eliminate racism, these issues are still going to have to be addressed.

Theres also the policing issue which is a huge problem in places like Baltimore. Many of these areas have widespread corruption and crime. Its hard to succeed when you are surrounded by crime and crime thrives in areas where there is low public trust in police. Police are going to have to be more accountable in order to build that trust so that they can start to do their job effectively.

12/8/2015 3:46:55 PM

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"No matter how much we reduce racism, that isn't going to take lead out of the blood of black children, nor is it going to make air more breathable. These problems affect blacks disproportionately because of the history of racism but even if you completely eliminate racism, these issues are still going to have to be addressed. "


Air quality? Water purification? What in the fuck are you talking about?

Furthermore, what does this have to do with Mizzou? Is it Tim Wolfe's fault? Was Johnathan Butler protesting the air quality in Baltimore?

Does the city smog prevent black fathers from raising their children?

Honestly what in the fuck are you talking about

12/8/2015 3:52:28 PM

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"Regarding the Stereotype Threat reference... if people are of the mindset "people think my race is worse at this, oh no now I'm nervous and suck" maybe they need mandatory courses explaining to them their race doesn't matter?"

Race shouldn't matter but it only matters because people think it matters. As long as people believe stereotypes, then the stereotype threat exists. Diversity training, diverse faculty, racially sensitive administration are all things that can make people feel more confidence in the idea that race doesn't matter to the campus in general. A lot of the demands nationwide are pretty basic and would go a long way towards confirming the idea that race doesn't matter. Thats where administrators can help foster a culture but simply saying race isn't an issue in America without actually doing anything to combat it is truly denial.

Actions and culture of the school itself have to actually support that idea in order for anyone to believe its actually true. Simply saying "racial oppression doesn't happen here" is insufficient.

12/8/2015 3:55:15 PM

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"Air quality? Water purification? What in the fuck are you talking about?

Furthermore, what does this have to do with Mizzou? Is it Tim Wolfe's fault? Was Johnathan Butler protesting the air quality in Baltimore?

Does the city smog prevent black fathers from raising their children?

Honestly what in the fuck are you talking about"

It turns out air quality, water quality, overall health and nutrition all affect a child's cognitive development and performance in school. I thought you said something about decision making which is why I started talking about education. The cards are stacked against children in poverty. Wake up in a bad environment to go to a failing school on an empty stomach.

New findings about child nutrition and cognitive development indicate that undernourished children are typically fatigued and uninterested in their social environments. Such children are less likely to establish relationships or to explore and learn from their surroundings. Undernourished children are also more susceptible to illness and, thus, more likely to be absent from school. These factors result in a loss of opportunities for undernourished children and in a loss of contributions to society. An overview of research reveals that children in the United States suffer a mild to moderate degree of malnourishment associated with poverty. A combination of environmental insults and undernutrition has been shown to result in growth retardation and developmental delays. Unless irreparable physiological damage has occurred, improvements in environment and nutrition can rectify the developmental effects to which a young child is exposed.
http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED374903

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 4:01 PM. Reason : k]

12/8/2015 3:59:02 PM

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if you can't provide proper nutrition and a safe place to live, to ANYTHING....child, dog, cat, fish.....then why subject yourself and the dependent to it? How does that make your situation, the child's situation, the neighborhoods situation ANY better? don't have it if you can't take care of it, on your own, not on the gov't dime....that just breeds another generation of entitlement.

It's obvious that once the 'racism' and white man is holding down the blacks argument was debunked, that the narrative (in this thread) turned to the REAL problems....corruption in gov't and police forces, and trying to bring up kids in an area where there aren't enough jobs/resources to help the next generation succeed.

[Edited on December 8, 2015 at 4:19 PM. Reason : asdf]

12/8/2015 4:18:18 PM

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So was the Mizzou president responsible for the poor nutrition and air quality of young black children in the hood?

Is that what Johnathan Butler was protesting when lying about the KKK and being hit by a car?

12/8/2015 6:26:25 PM

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"Race shouldn't matter but it only matters because people think it matters. As long as people believe stereotypes, then the stereotype threat exists."


So certain African-Americans think that race matters and that the white man holds them back, which isn't the case. Yet, it is everyone else that needs diversity training .

Got IT!

12/8/2015 7:13:32 PM

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"if you can't provide proper nutrition and a safe place to live, to ANYTHING....child, dog, cat, fish.....then why subject yourself and the dependent to it? How does that make your situation, the child's situation, the neighborhoods situation ANY better? don't have it if you can't take care of it, on your own, not on the gov't dime....that just breeds another generation of entitlement.
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If someone was well educated enough to understand that, it wouldn't be an issue. Birth rates generally go down as education goes up.

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"It's obvious that once the 'racism' and white man is holding down the blacks argument was debunked, that the narrative (in this thread) turned to the REAL problems....corruption in gov't and police forces, and trying to bring up kids in an area where there aren't enough jobs/resources to help the next generation succeed."

All of those "REAL" problems affect blacks disproportionately as a direct result of racist policies. Systemic racism hasn't lost momentum. Just because you aren't kicking the ball anymore, doesn't mean its going to stop rolling down the hill.

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"So was the Mizzou president responsible for the poor nutrition and air quality of young black children in the hood?"

You keep reverting to this even though its been said that he was only responsible for failure to properly acknowledge racism and its victims. Thats such a simple thing to do that when someone makes sure not to do it, the mob mentality does tend to label them as racists themselves.

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"Is that what Johnathan Butler was protesting when lying about the KKK and being hit by a car?"

You keep pointing back to specific individuals. One individual here or there being wrong does not change the facts.

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"So certain African-Americans think that race matters and that the white man holds them back, which isn't the case. Yet, it is everyone else that needs diversity training"

Who said african americans don't need diversity training? They aren't the only race that is oppressed and racial oppression is not the only type of oppression. Discrimination based on gender, sexual orientation, religion, are all deeply engrained in American culture.

12/9/2015 9:45:24 AM

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" You keep reverting to this even though its been said that he was only responsible for failure to properly acknowledge racism and its victims."


I’m “reverting” to it, because it is the original topic and point of this thread. As I have documented in my study of TWW liberal arguments, once a narrative is proven false, they simply revert to “racism is still bad so that justifies us being stupid and defending this specific false case”.

Also rich graduate students aren’t victims, and no public figure has an obligation to pay lip service to a bunch of entitled brats, no matter what victim card they play (unless a liberal public figure, then you better grovel and beg for mercy).

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" You keep pointing back to specific individuals. One individual here or there being wrong does not change the facts."


What facts? I love these vague references to “facts” from you and moron, that, when I press for a follow up, are ignored. I’ve listed facts like the 2 examples of protestors lying. Does this change the fact that racism exists and there is a lingering wealth disparity? No, but it provides evidence that the entire Mizzou “oppression” narrative had no basis in reality.

Separate the lying grandstanders HuffPost tells you about from actual problems that can be addressed and fixed. Supporting false narratives only causes distraction, division, and fosters dependency.

12/9/2015 10:22:18 AM

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"If someone was well educated enough to understand that, it wouldn't be an issue. Birth rates generally go down as education goes up.
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I have always liked the idea of mandatory Birth Control for those on welfare!

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"All of those "REAL" problems affect blacks disproportionately as a direct result of racist policies."


This is because ghetto African-Americans are causing disproportionately larger amount of the crime then their non-ghetto brothers
or their trailer trash white nemesis

#truth

Good news though for you

#AllLivesMatter

12/9/2015 10:56:33 AM

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"Still waiting for that "evidence" of Mizzou oppression, moron..."

12/11/2015 9:59:42 AM

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"In 2010, two white students were arrested for dropping cotton balls in front of the Gaines/Oldham Black Culture Center,[2] and in 2011 a student was given probation for racially charged graffiti in a student dormitory.[3] The events led to the creation of a diversity initiative called "One Mizzou" under MU chancellor Brady Deaton. This initiative was discontinued in 2015 owing to concerns that it had lost its meaning.[4][5]

On September 12, 2015, a Facebook post[6] by the student government president Payton Head complained of bigotry and anti-gay sentiment around the college campus, which gained widespread attention.[7][8] He claimed that in an incident off campus, unidentified people in the back of a passing pickup truck directed racial slurs at him. "For those of you who wonder why I'm always talking about the importance of inclusion and respect, it's because I've experienced moments like this multiple times at THIS university, making me not feel included here."[6] Chancellor R. Bowen Loftin called the incident "totally unacceptable" on September 17.[7][8]

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A ConcernedStudent protester in the commons area, November 11.
The first student protests occurred on September 24, at an event called "Racism Lives Here," where protesters claimed nothing had been done to address Head's concerns. On October 1, a second "Racism Lives Here" event was held with 40–50 participants.[9][10]

An incident involving a drunken student on October 4 gave rise to more racial tensions. While an African-American student group, the Legion of Black Collegians, was preparing for Homecoming activities, a white student walked on stage and was asked to leave. Supposedly, while departing the premises the student said, "these niggers are getting aggressive with me", according to the LBC.[11] This prompted chancellor Loftin, traveling outside the US, to record a video message in response and to release a statement which said, "Racism and all prejudice is heinous, insidious and damaging to Mizzou... That is why all of us must commit to changing the culture at this university."[12] Later that month, the student group "Concerned Student 1950" was created, referring to the first year the University of Missouri admitted black students.

On October 24,[13] a police officer responding to a property damage complaint reported that an unknown vandal had smeared feces in the shape of a swastika on a bathroom wall in a dorm on campus.[13][14] The university's Department of Residential Life filed photographs of the fecal smear in a hate crime incident report, and the residential life director emailed a number of people on campus, including a Hillel organization, to request information about anti-Semitic activity on campus.[15] The investigator in the university’s Title IX office, noted in an email that the swastika may have been "meant to offend and threaten a larger population of our campus community in addition to Jewish students.”[15]"

these are the facts that ignited the whole situation

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"Does this change the fact that racism exists and there is a lingering wealth disparity? No, but it provides evidence that the entire Mizzou “oppression” narrative had no basis in reality. "

Racism is the oppression we're talking about.

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or their trailer trash white nemesis

#truth"

corrupt police targeting black neighborhoods does not mean they are causing more crime. it just means they are being punished more for it. Dozens of studies and justice department reports support this narrative.

12/11/2015 10:02:03 PM

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^ What?

so are they or are they not actually committing the crimes?

if a police officer is sitting on my street and sees me doing criminal activity, I should be arrested. It doesn't matter what neighborhood it is. If they know gangs/drugs/guns are prevalent in an area, why wouldn't they take a closer look?

12/12/2015 9:17:06 AM

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"so are they or are they not actually committing the crimes?"

If you look at the statistics, specifically with drug-related crimes which incarcerate the largest amount of people, blacks are arrested at a much higher rate despite have a lower usage rate. If you look at it economically, and ignore race, wealthy areas have very little drug crime despite having the highest levels of drug use.

If you look at sentences, blacks are sentenced longer for the same crimes.

I'm not sure if this is new to you or if you are playing dumb to support your racist false-narrative of blacks simply being more criminal but here are some key bullets to catch you up if the prior is true.

I'll leave these here and assign them for everyone to read so that we can all be on the same page with evidence and not "false narratives". These are consistent findings compiled from over 40 studies with 95 different methods of measuring racial bias in the justice system.
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sentencing outcomes);
· Evidence of direct discrimination at the federal level is more prominent than at
the state level;

· Blacks are more likely to be disadvantaged in terms of sentence length at the
federal level, whereas Latinos are more likely to be disadvantaged in terms of the
decision to incarcerate;

· At the state level, both Latinos and blacks are far more likely to be disadvantaged
in the decision to incarcerate or not, as opposed to the decision regarding sentence
length.

Young black and Latino males tend to be sentenced more severely than
comparably situated white males;

· Unemployed black males tend to be sentenced more severely than comparably
situated white males.

Blacks pay a higher “trial penalty” than comparably situated whites;

· Whites receive a larger reduction in sentence time than blacks and Latinos for
providing “substantial assistance” to the prosecution;

· Blacks and Latinos with a more serious criminal record tend to be sentenced more
severely than comparably situated whites;

· Blacks are more likely to be jailed pending trial, and therefore tend to receive
harsher sentences;

· Whites are more likely to hire a private attorney than Latinos or blacks, and
therefore receive a less severe sentence.

Black defendants who victimize whites tend to receive more severe sentences
than both blacks who victimize other blacks (especially acquaintances), and
whites who victimize whites.

· Latinos and blacks tend to be sentenced more harshly than whites for lower-level
crimes such as drug crimes and property crimes;

· However, Latinos and blacks convicted of high-level drug offenses also tend to be
more harshly sentenced than similarly situated whites.


Decades of research have demonstrated that race has always played a role in sentencing
outcomes, even as the dynamics of that relationship have evolved over time. Scholars,
practitioners, and the public alike have a strong interest in assessing these dynamics and
engaging in policy and practice changes designed to address this fundamental concern."

http://www.sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_sentencing_review.pdf

12/12/2015 3:36:50 PM

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i wasn't asking if 'they' were sentenced more harshly. That's for another time and place. Didn't really read that much on the 'stats', but was there any reporting on repeat offenders and why certain races may be held longer in jail?

I was asking if they were committing the crimes.

So what if wealthier areas are doing coke in the comfort of their house, kinda hard for a cop to spot that.

But if you are on the street corner selling drugs, or doing any illegal activity in the view of a police officer, regardless of race, you should be arrested.

being arrested in the commission of a crime is not racism.

12/13/2015 6:37:48 PM

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Hah, gonna completely ignore sentencing, as if it's not indicative of the greater problem.

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Yeah, especially when all the cops are hanging out in the black neighborhoods, looking for jaywalkers.

12/13/2015 7:48:53 PM

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An incident in 2010? When the students were arrested? What more is needed? They committed a crime and were punished for it. Non of the students involved in the hoax protest today were involved with that. The fact that it is referenced as evidence tells you how weak the case is for "oppression".

The same student that lied about the KKK presence on campus, said non-students that were drunk yelled slurs at him? What does that have to do with Tim Wolfe, or Mizzou, if off-campus assholes yell shit at people? Has anyone here ever walked back to campus from a party late at night? Drunk people yell shit and harrass people, even if it is racial, they are just words. That is weak shit to justify a hoax-protest bitch fest. Especially since the person referencing it has a record of lying about racial injustice.

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This is complete bullshit. A vague reference to "racism" is just as stupid to a vauge reference of "oppression". Johnathan Butler was not oppressed or victimized in any way. He was just a spoiled brat playing gullible liberals for chumps. A swastika is not anti-black, it is anti-semetic, and it is not "oppression".

12/13/2015 11:36:28 PM

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"Still waiting for that "evidence" of Mizzou oppression, and Tim Wolfe racism, moron..."




12/18/2015 3:24:00 PM

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http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/25/media/melissa-click-assault-charge-missouri-protests/index.html?iid=hp-grid-dom

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"Melissa Click, the University of Missouri professor who blocked a reporter from covering a campus protest in November, was charged Monday with assault.
Click has been charged with third-degree assault, which is a misdemeanor, because of her clash with reporters covering the "Concerned Student 1950" protest in the fall, according to city prosecutor's office in Columbia, Missouri."


LOLZ

#Oppression
#SafeSpace
#AllLivesMatter
#PCIntolerance
#NoFreeSpeechIfItMeansHurtFeelings

1/25/2016 2:32:10 PM

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#weirdobsessions
#issuesyougotem

1/25/2016 2:35:28 PM

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The first amendment has always had its limits. Kind of like how you can't yell fire in a crowd. Speech that harms others or threatens public safety is not protected.

1/25/2016 4:18:37 PM

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"Kind of like how you can't yell fire in a crowd"


that ruling was from almost 100 years ago and involved a person encouraging people to dodge the draft during WWI. It was overturned by the supreme court almost half a century ago.

1/25/2016 5:31:09 PM

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" Speech that harms others or threatens public safety is not protected."


BS, you would need to lock up just about every stand up comic in the country then

1/26/2016 6:53:04 AM

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^^ the Brandenburg v. Ohio case still said that you can't say things that are likely to incite lawless actions

1/26/2016 7:06:46 AM

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^ Meeting that standard is difficult without having a literal armed mob at your disposal.

[Edited on January 26, 2016 at 9:43 AM. Reason : typing]

1/26/2016 9:42:53 AM

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"The first amendment has always had its limits. Kind of like how you can't yell fire in a crowd. Speech that harms others or threatens public safety is not protected."


Because having the common sense to recognize this Mizzou Protest as a baseless hoax "harms others"...

Your post is a micro aggression... this thread is my safe space... you're a racist bigot, apologize for your white male privilege and report to your nearest mandatory White-People-Are-Racist training course. I also demand you resign from your job. #Liberalism

1/26/2016 10:16:19 PM

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Looks like a lot of #Progress has been made after the race hoax all you SJWs supported.

http://heatst.com/culture-wars/more-misery-at-mizzou-as-enrollment-plummets/


5/4/2016 9:09:10 PM

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yeah and competitive students will go to schools that have a culture of nipping these issues in the bud.

5/4/2016 9:38:05 PM

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Brooke Wells will save MIZZOU

5/4/2016 9:43:38 PM

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5/5/2016 1:36:14 PM

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That's a dude.

5/5/2016 1:44:54 PM

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thats just a tiny ass on yuge legs

5/7/2016 11:08:09 PM

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there is nothin tiny about dat ass

5/8/2016 9:07:12 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topographic_prominence



[Edited on May 8, 2016 at 4:50 PM. Reason : k?]

5/8/2016 4:49:59 PM

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