I've never heard before that PVs "run out" of electrons, and my understanding of P-N junctions doesn't imply this:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/pnjun.html

Nor does this description of how PVs work:
https://books.google.com/books?id=-v_LfcIdJxIC&pg=PA373&lpg=PA373&dq=can+holes+in+p+n+junction+permanently+fill&source=bl&ots=3SIvpSxj-H&sig=kzi_1sMbTF4qjQPh9icECWTA7r0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rKTKVIuQOcmvyASMwICQAQ&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=can%20holes%20in%20p%20n%20junction%20permanently%20fill&f=false

Seems like what's happening is that the energy from the sun pushes electrons into holes, establishing an electric field, which induces a current in the circuit, which is then used to charge a battery.

1/29/2015 4:26:58 PM

to jbrick's video... I'd like to know the 60' times at the strip of one-

1/29/2015 4:42:27 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/29/tesla-model-s-acceleration-update/

Woohoo 3.1s 0-60!

Quote :

"If you didn't think that Tesla's Model S P85D was bonkers enough, you're in for a treat. Elon Musk has revealed that the already speedy electric sedan is getting a software update that will improve its 0-60MPH acceleration time by a tenth of a second, to 3.1 seconds. That may not sound like much, but that makes the Model S as quick off the mark as McLaren's MP4-12C supercar. "

1/29/2015 11:19:35 PM

Nah, electric cars are for hippies and teh gays.

Ask any racer, any real racer, they would rather dat NAWZZZ

2/2/2015 3:28:10 AM

https://www.minds.com/blog/view/443508465227272192/tesla039s-model-iii-goes-200-miles-per-charge-and-costs-35000

5/12/2015 5:30:16 PM

Been saying that for a long time, the Model X still isn't out. How many years over due will the 3 be?

5/12/2015 7:39:43 PM

Supposedly the Model X will be out in Q3, which I find very interesting given that it's Q2 and we haven't even seen what it looks like (undisguised). A bit unorthodox, but then again it's Tesla.

5/13/2015 9:08:13 AM

If anyone wants to buy my preorder for an S let me know I'd probably sell it half price since I already wrote it off.

5/13/2015 10:47:59 AM

The model III will, without a doubt, cost much more than 35k when it comes out. This is more Eli smoke and mirrors. I am guessing it will start closer to 50k base, and start around 42,500 AFTER tax credits. No way in hell the car starts at 35k pre tax credit, and I find it extremely unlikely they will underprice a car like than in the upper 30s, low 40s. It just doesn't make sense. They will still slaughter the 3 series space in the mid to upper 40s when you look at total cost of ownership.

I think it will be a great car, but Eli is full of shit. He should have to endure a cock punch each time he opens his mouth and says something that doesn't come through, then he'll keep that overpromising mouth shut.

5/13/2015 3:33:40 PM

I'm wondering when, if ever, it will catch up with them. People love them some Elon.

5/13/2015 5:43:16 PM

Those titanium belly pans don't come cheap.

Undrivable by 2020.

5/18/2015 11:55:18 AM

Bankrupt by 2022? (sarcasm)

6/23/2015 5:27:11 PM

Dude's credibility is worse than PigPen's

6/23/2015 9:57:35 PM

Tesla ends on-site repair service to rural areas. Whoops, guess you should have made them build a dealership. All repairs(even changing out the 12V battery) require the car be towed, thousands of miles if necessary.
http://my.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/ranger-service-plan-no-longer-available-purchase

Lightning disables Tesla, trapping it at the charging station.
http://gas2.org/2015/06/02/lighting-strike-disables-supercharging-tesla/

Collision repair costs for Teslas are astronomical. Owners are furious.
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1096220_tesla-model-s-aluminum-body-why-repair-costs-are-higher

Tesla abandons promised battery swap program.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/9/8754667/tesla-elon-musk-battery-swap-fail

Tesla still can't make a proper door handle
http://masterherald.com/broken-power-door-handle-problem-plagues-tesla-model-s-p85d-during-testing-phase/16841/

6/24/2015 9:41:06 AM

Are the rumors about the Model 3's production delays true? Now looking at 2018?

6/25/2015 8:49:01 AM

TSLA when this thread was created - $31
TSLA today - $265

6/25/2015 10:07:42 AM

Q-My late husband left me with 500 shares of Tucker Corp., purchased in 1947. Is this stock of any value or worthless?

A-That rare stock hasn`t run out of gas. Tucker Corp. shares are worthless as investments, but the certificates have some value as

collectibles.

This failed manufacturer of an innovative rear-engine car, despite its financial shortcomings, provided an interesting story line for the Francis Ford Coppola film, ``Tucker: A Man and His Dream,`` which starred Jeff Bridges.

Tucker, a Delaware corporation based in Chicago, quickly fell on hard times and went bankrupt in 1949. Its corporate charter was forfeited in early 1952, said Robert Fisher, vice president with the New York-based R.M. Smythe & Co. stock-search firm.

``If your certificates for 500 shares are originals and have been maintained in good condition, they are worth about $50 per certificate at retail,`` said Fisher. ``I would recommend that you have a professional examine them for a true appraisal.``

7/2/2015 10:16:16 PM

I'm here at the Tesla plant in Fremont right now. Pretty sweet place.

8/4/2015 12:22:13 PM

Through a customer, my company manufactures some of their seating components ...

8/4/2015 12:26:28 PM

We're setting up some automated vehicles to move the cars around. You guys do the fire retardant stuff right?

8/4/2015 12:31:58 PM

That is what I spent 4 years doing (NVH)
Now I'm in the Hook and Loop field, and we have parts holding the seats together.

8/4/2015 7:49:40 PM

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d0d1932a-3b05-11e5-8613-07d16aad2152.html#axzz3i81pAUZn

Hackers take control of a Tesla Model S and turn it off at low speed

8/7/2015 6:08:03 PM

Jeep did it first.

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/jeep-hack-chrysler-recalls-1-4m-vehicles-bug-fix/

8/7/2015 7:26:13 PM

BTTT for the model x tonight

9/29/2015 11:09:21 PM

^ Pics of production model were leaked nearly a month ago! But yeah, it is officially out now.

Ugh, what happened to the grill??? Reminds me of Neo in The Matrix when Agent Smith seals his mouth shut by fusing his lips... that's what it looks like without a grill! It looked way better in concept form with the grill similar to the Model S grill. Otherwise, it looks good.

9/30/2015 5:38:24 AM

what is the point of the doors? they are retarded

9/30/2015 10:47:52 AM

^ Small parking spaces so you can get out of the car or into the car if blocked in. Less risk of dinging someone else's car.

Still don't like them, but maybe they are better in practice.

9/30/2015 10:55:43 AM

But the front doors still open out, so how does it save space?

10/1/2015 7:05:31 AM

I like them. Beats the hell out of normal boring doors. Hopefully some automakers will grow a sack sometime soon and start offering suicide doors again.

10/1/2015 8:41:07 AM

Tesla debuts revolutionary compact door design in its latest $140,000 affordable people's car.


Tesla fire spreads to 2,700 acres.
http://www.capradio.org/articles/2015/08/21/crews-continue-to-battle-tesla-fire-between-livermore,-tracy/

Tesla stock crash imminent.
http://www.econotimes.com/Tesla-faces-plethora-of-problems-87398

[Edited on October 1, 2015 at 11:08 AM. Reason : .]

10/1/2015 11:00:24 AM

Those of you talking about the rear doors, see the launch event video at

http://www.teslamotors.com/modelx

Forward to 17:00 and watch for 4 min for the door demonstration. Mind, blown!

I do wonder though, how durable they will be in the long term.

10/1/2015 4:50:49 PM

They open up to the Tesla logo. Pretty cool.

10/1/2015 5:50:50 PM

^^ still doesn't explain the benefit

the front doors still open normally, so it's not really saving space. the van that they use in the demonstration has rear doors that open in a small space, but they have the advantage of creating a wide opening that these doors don't provide. what is the purpose of this, it just adds complexity and potential failure points.

10/2/2015 10:51:19 AM

The value of those doors is going to be situational...

If you have kids, and you need to get them buckled in and situated, having those doors is going to be awesome. Because short of driving a mini van, which no self respecting parent ever WANTS to do, you will be in an SUV with outwardly opening doors.

You are correct that you still have to open the driver's door, or you can crawl through from the back to the front in a really tight spot.

10/2/2015 11:08:22 AM

I'd take a minivan 10/10 times over an suv, especially for stuffing it full of kids

10/2/2015 1:47:47 PM

it is a lot easier to put a child in a child seat and buckle him/her up with the model X's doors than with traditional doors, and especially so in a tight space as demonstrated in the video.

sure, the driver and front passenger would still have to squeeze in if in a tight space as the front doors are traditional, but that's always easier than putting a child (or other large object) inside (with traditional doors) in the same tight space.

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ok, he has officially gone mad now

Quote :

"Elon Musk details his plan to BOMB Mars: Constant 'nuclear pulse explosions' would create double suns to heat the planet * SpaceX CEO Elon Musk called Mars 'a fixer-upper of a planet' * Claims nuclear bombs could be dropped on Mars to heat the planet up * Pulsing bombs would create two suns above the planet to warm it * Bombs would be sent every several seconds to keep planet warm "

10/2/2015 9:58:57 PM

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/10/22/drivers-are-being-idiots-with-teslas-new-autopilot-features/

Quote :

"In the video above, if you slow it down, you’ll see the driver traveling at high speed with his hands off the steering wheel and busy filming. The car sounds the alarm to take control, which he doesn’t acknowledge until it begins drifting naturally to the left — the driver saves himself just in time by jerking the steering wheel the other way."

10/22/2015 4:55:29 PM

Quote :

"you’ll see the driver traveling at high speed"

Quote :

"37-38 mph"

10/23/2015 12:11:34 AM

The system gave less than 1 second of warning before the point of no return. This, at crawling 35mph speeds on a well-marked highway lined with trees and an oncoming car that that the system totally ignored. Even accounting for the complete failure of the autosteering, the car should have recognized a collision was imminent and locked the brakes, so it failed in that regard too.

Tesla should turn off this feature tonight, if they want to save themselves from the crashes, fires and ensuing lawsuits that destroy the company.

10/25/2015 6:11:04 PM

It is only supposed to be used on the highway. If you abuse any feature on a car, crap can happen.

10/26/2015 9:47:26 AM

maybe they should push an update that uses the GPS to lock its use to divided highway only

10/26/2015 11:01:45 AM

I suspect that is going to happen. Someone is going to get hurt, or killed, soon. And then they'll have to make changes.

I have to give Tesla props for deciding to be the first to do this, but I hope they are prepared for lawsuits.

10/27/2015 12:55:09 PM

Quote :

"If you abuse any feature on a car, crap can happen."

Exactly. I assume people had the same concerns when cruise control came out too.

10/27/2015 1:12:01 PM

Some people still do. My wife won't use cruise control. But I am sure when it came out, you had people that thought it would be cool to use it in neighborhood streets

10/27/2015 2:34:15 PM

Yeah when I got my first car the first thing I did was test how slow I could get cruise control to work in my neighborhood.

10/27/2015 3:04:03 PM

Quote :

"Tesla should turn off this feature tonight, if they want to save themselves from the crashes, fires and ensuing lawsuits that destroy the company."

You mean like the ones you proselytized a few pages back?

I still use my cruise control in 20 and 25mph zones, keeps me from speeding

10/27/2015 8:01:46 PM

http://jalopnik.com/we-set-a-cross-country-record-in-a-telsa-that-drove-its-1739410767?rev=1446145154580

10/29/2015 3:09:18 PM

Automakers worry Tesla's haste will ruin the promise of self-driving cars, leading them to be outlawed or sued out of existence before the technology reaches maturity. Musk has already been forced to promise his investors that an update to cripple the autopilot system is in the works.

http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/edward-niedermeyer-toyota-bets-1-billion-that-tesla-is-speeding-115110800747_1.html

He'd better hurry up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gax8BnQpuA

11/9/2015 7:22:51 PM

Ive enjoyed the fuck out of my Model S this past year (bought preowned). Have had ZERO service issues, still get over 200 miles per charge easy.

Excited to see what the model 3 is gonna come in at, as my wife is about due for a new car as well.

1/7/2016 6:18:59 PM

PS- the autonmous parking update is BAD ASS.

1/9/2016 11:04:29 PM