As do I.


But I'd like it a lot more if it was a foot shorter.

9/27/2011 8:39:27 AM

So... about the size of your S2000... Got it

9/27/2011 11:04:49 AM

Not quite. An S2000 is 162.7 inches long. The new 991 is 178.4, a difference of 15.7 inches.

I'd really just be happy if it was the same length as the 993, 167.7 inches

9/27/2011 1:30:55 PM

interesting sunroof on the 991

http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/aol-autos/autoblog-short-cuts-2012-porsche-911-carrera-s/1270380727001

11/11/2011 6:15:23 PM

boy laughing in the Porsche on the way to school..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQCFgJalNo4&feature=feedrec_grec_index

11/13/2011 11:46:28 AM

^^^ yep, but with all of the weight-reduction effort in place at its current super-size.

When the 911 surpassed the Corvette both in dimensions and weight, I was a little shocked. Now they've gone and made it even bigger.

Hopefully Chevy will make the C7 even smaller and lighter. It'll never be s2000-sized, but a little more nip & tuck would make it even better.

11/13/2011 12:05:52 PM

The new 911 Carrera (3048 lbs) is lighter than a Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (3,199 pounds), Ferrari 458 (3,274 pounds), Nissan GT-R (3,829 pounds) and the Jaguar XKR (3,865 pounds). It's also less than an inch longer than the 997 in overall length while it's height is a tad shorter.

[Edited on November 13, 2011 at 2:51 PM. Reason : I agree that it's a bit too big as is, but Porsche's done an admirable job keeping the weight low.]

11/13/2011 2:49:56 PM

Agreed all the way; that's what I'm saying. It's a shame that Porsche didn't apply all that effort to weight-savings, AND make it about 993-sized.

With all the new goodies and hp.

That would have kicked a lot of ass.

11/13/2011 7:39:40 PM

^agreed.

The 911 isn't intended to be a large coupe, so they need to STOP enlarging it every damn time. Nobody puts shit in the back seat, so stop making it bigger! I have no doubt they'll introduce a 928-esque coupe based off the Panamera. Let the large coupe fans flock to that.

11/14/2011 8:36:22 AM

^ Highly relevant to the discussion of length, and a very good overview for Porsche-philes:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/porsche-911-generations-the-legend-grows/

Wow, lengthwise, Gen 3 < Gen 2 < Gen 1

It blew up when going from 993 to 996, growing by 6.7 inches.

Gen 1 lasted 24 years...?! In those 24 years, the price increased by 700%... WTF. Yes, there was inflation, but 700%?



[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM. Reason : ]

11/14/2011 9:45:26 AM

From the side the new 911 looks like a caricature of the older models. I'm sure the 20" wheels are really needed too

11/14/2011 10:08:50 AM

I wonder why they used a 996 TT, but the 991 and 997 are N/A...

11/15/2011 4:31:41 PM

Beats me. Also note that the 993 is a turbo model. And the 964 model is the rare lightweight RS America.

11/15/2011 4:41:47 PM

Thats okay... the 997 has the ceramic brake package...

11/15/2011 5:08:33 PM

2000 911 cabriolet 54,000 miles. 16k in great shape with full service history worth it ???

12/24/2011 2:00:52 PM

1999 996 Carrera, 77k miles, 19" rims (IIRC), Aero body kit, $17k.

I'd get the coupe over the cabriolet...

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/ctd/2756977017.html



[Edited on December 24, 2011 at 7:12 PM. Reason : /]

12/24/2011 7:09:23 PM

I think 911 cabs are kind of ugly. It really ruins the lines of the car...not to mention, convertible sports cars (serious sports cars, anyway) suck. More weight, less rigidity, more cost (generally...used 911 cabs are cheaper, because they suck), and you can't track them in some places without a roll bar.

That's a good price, though, with the factory aero kit, especially if it was a 6-speed hardtop.

Ahmet might differ even after grenading his 911's engine, but I'm too scared of particularly a Mk 1 model 996. A Mk2 scares me enough even with its updates to address problems. Of course, that (and the Boxster nose) are why you can get a nice one for $17k to begin with...

12/25/2011 2:21:00 AM

^ What I posted is a coupe, but it appears that it has now been deleted.

[Edited on December 25, 2011 at 2:35 AM. Reason : .]

12/25/2011 2:35:24 AM

yeah, then that's was a good deal on an aero kit car with lowish mileage, assuming it was in nice shape.

12/25/2011 2:42:37 AM

In other Porsche news....

I bought an 01 Porsche Carrera 4 on December 14th. 6 speed. Black on black. Great condition inside and out. Fucking gorgeous.

I drove it for a week then finally got the title signed over to me on the 21st to make it official.

That night the porsche decides to congratulate me for my purchase by failing to start. Failed alarm box and DME unit due to the aftermarket radio some dude put in years ago. $Texas

Luckily I bought the car for $22.5k when it KBB's near $27k. I was planning on the selling the car to make a profit. Now I'm just going to own a Porsche for a month at no cost



[Edited on December 25, 2011 at 6:39 AM. Reason : Anyone looking for an 01 C4? lol. All electrical issue fixed and price is a reasonable $25.5k]

12/25/2011 6:30:07 AM

I'm interested, though I'd prefer a 2

12/25/2011 9:50:49 AM

its not for me... my bro in law's dad is selling it to him just making sure its worthashit.

12/25/2011 12:16:38 PM

^^^I'm sure anyone interested would want to know the mileage. I'm not speaking for myself though, no interest in the Carrera 4 models

12/28/2011 4:03:36 PM

it's 66k miles but I'm not sure that I want to sell it. I love it and want to get some usage out of it.

12/28/2011 4:25:50 PM

But of course you do, 911s are spectacularly good cars.

12/28/2011 10:44:22 PM

Need any last minute gift ideas for that Porsche lover?

Quote :

"We think there would be considerably more car-themed furniture in the world were it not for the institution of marriage. While we would have no problem flopping the tail section of a 2005 Porsche 911 in the living room in place of an entertainment center and TV stand, something tells us that would be a hard sell to our significant others. While Porsche Design does make some beautiful pieces that we're sure our better halves wouldn't mind owning, we can't see them cottoning on to the efforts of one enterprising individual, who has taken to manufacturing custom TV stands from the rear haunches of certain Porsche models. The entertainment centers apparently use genuine parts from the German manufacturer, right down to the wheels and brake calipers on the rear wheels."

I shudder to think what it costs...

(Found on Autoblog)

12/29/2011 1:05:42 PM

considering that seems to be the end that dies in most porsche crashes i bet its even hard to find the sheet metal in a junk yard.

1/1/2012 10:41:34 AM

Conversation I had earlier (with post production grammer/spelling corrections )

1/26/2012 10:44:10 PM

those yellow chat boxes are me

1/27/2012 8:36:29 AM

I miss my Porsche so badly. :'(

1/28/2012 10:33:59 PM

I miss mine too

I had it for a week when the ECU/Immobilizer fried

It hasn't been running for 4 weeks now. Hopefully I'll get the rebuilt ECU unit back next week.

1/29/2012 6:17:12 AM

Quote :

"2013 Porsche 911 GT3 won't be available with a manual gearbox? If you were in the market for a Porsche 911 that could play dual roles as track toy and daily driver, the GT3 always fit the bill. And it was a given that you'd find a proper manual gearbox between the seats. According to the latest report, that might not be the case in due time. InsideLine sat down with the 911's product chief, August Achleitner, who confirmed that the next GT3 is on the way and that Porsche's motorsports division is testing both a manual and a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox. However, only one gearbox will make it to production in 2013 and Achleitner believes the PDK will win out. Whether that decision will be limited to Europe, while a manual option would still be offered in the States (similar to what BMW is doing with the M5) isn't clear, but Achleitner contends that putting the PDK in the GT3 is only logical, particularly given that less than one-third of 911s are fitted with a stick shift. "

A sad fucking day if true

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/13/2013-porsche-911-gt3-wont-be-available-with-a-manual-gearbox/

2/14/2012 4:49:57 PM

one day we will all drive automatics

2/14/2012 5:08:55 PM

Quote :

"A sad fucking day if true "

Yes. but at least the PDK is a performance enhancing gearbox vs traditional manual. If it were a traditional slushbox, then I'd agree.

2/14/2012 5:17:42 PM

^^no

^unless it's got a 3rd pedal its not the same. If I want to play video games I'll turn on my PS3. If I want to fully engage myself in a car I get in my car.

2/14/2012 11:49:28 PM

i love my 3-pedal vehicles, but I do have to concede that PDK is performance-enhancing, and the really bad part of an auto-trans is the torque converter, which isn't an issue with an automated sequential manual.

2/15/2012 12:48:01 AM

you know how you were talking about not being able to get the z06 anywhere near the limit on the street.

I feel the pdk falls into that category.

I mean would i want it racing someone..... yes...

would i enjoy it driving on the street to and from work.

no... unless i get stuck in a traffic jam because my clutch is tiny and makes up for it in spring power.

2/15/2012 6:38:23 AM

Quote :

"i love my 3-pedal vehicles, but I do have to concede that PDK is performance-enhancing"

But none of us participate in competitive track racing events. I will admit that when I'm reeling in faster cars at HPDE events I get a certain thrill of it, and am occasionally held back (from going faster) by my gearing. So yes there's no doubt a PDK is (usually faster) around a track. But some people get more enjoyment from operating the clutch themselves. I mean we're out there to have fun. If it was just about being fast around the track then everyone would have a Corvette

If I was racing a car sure gimme the PDK. But I don't see myself, ever, being in a situation where I am racing a Porsche on a track. And if I am, well I'll be happy b/c I'll be rich.

PDK transmissions are more prone to overheating than traditional manual transmissions, but if Porsche is confident enough to release their new GT3 with just that transmission I have no doubt they have resolved any cooling issues.

[Edited on February 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM. Reason : k]

2/15/2012 10:12:57 AM

i love manual transmission cars as well, but im not sure where all the torque converter hate comes from.

2/15/2012 10:20:52 AM

They're slow and are inefficient and thus rob a lot of power. They're pretty much only good for insanely high hp cars for drag racing.

[Edited on February 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM. Reason : typo]

2/15/2012 10:29:19 AM

so drag racing is slow

2/15/2012 10:42:12 AM

no... drag racing engines just make so much hp & tq that the slip effect from a tq converter keeps them from breaking loose

2/15/2012 10:48:27 AM

yeah thats not how it works at all, but i dont want to derail a porsche thread, so forget i mentioned it.

2/15/2012 11:12:57 AM

Then start a new thread discussing it if you think you're the expert

2/15/2012 12:12:16 PM

nah its okay- im not.

probably an appropriate discussion here at least; i havent heard the best things about porsche autos.

2/15/2012 12:14:10 PM

Porsche Macan is coming.

(Cayenne's baby brother)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gCrZfR2aaRk

Quote :

"Meaning "tiger" in Indonesian, Porsche uses buzzwords such as suppleness, power, fascination and dynamics to describe the core characteristics of the new off-road car. "The Macan combines all sports car characteristics with the benefits of a SUV and is a genuine Porsche", said Bernhard Maier, Member of the Executive Board Sales and Marketing of Porsche AG. "The name of a new Porsche has to fit with the brand, sound good in very many languages and dialects and evoke positive associations." As the fifth model line, Porsche expects the Macan to follow in the successful foot steps of its Cayenne big brother. With production set to begin in Leipzig in 2013, the Macan represents an investment of 500 million euros, one of the biggest building projects in Porsche's history, and more than 1,000 new jobs."

2/16/2012 3:37:30 PM

fucking Porsche VAG

2/16/2012 4:29:05 PM

Are 996 engine blocks actually crap? I was reading something written buy a guy who owns a Porsche shop but could be a hack saying that they are porus and gave been known to leak fluids through the block it's self ??!

This sounds like some crazy bs excuse to me but I dont know shit about them really.

2/20/2012 10:48:12 PM

List source(s) or prepare to be ignored.

2/20/2012 10:49:43 PM

Cant find the original but

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/996-turbo-forum/471350-ppi-for-porous-block-head.html

Is it all of them or just the n/a models ? Or is it a crap excuse for a blown head gasket that only leaks when hot ?

2/20/2012 10:57:57 PM