If today is plyo then in about 2 days you will be taking that statement back! haha

7/15/2009 8:43:00 AM

Haha, i'm actually enjoying these workouts. They're hard as hell, but I actuallly like being sore. Lets me know it's working! lol

If anyone wants a copy of this program (all 13 DVD's and all nutrition guides, plans, etc. PM me.

[Edited on July 15, 2009 at 12:13 PM. Reason : instead of downloading the crappy quality torrents]

7/15/2009 12:01:39 PM

I will be starting my routines next week. Will try and post my progress

7/15/2009 4:24:06 PM

I attempted the complete stretching DVD again

I really thought I was in good shape too....that one girl is a freak

7/15/2009 7:55:22 PM

Started this workout last Monday. Really enjoying it so far. I live for that recovery drink (Chocolate Soy Milk mmmmm or a smoothie). The squat day kicks my ass lol. But man, I like this work out. Makes you feel good.

7/16/2009 12:12:47 AM

Figured this was a good thread to ask in.

I need some good workout music...who are some artists yall like listening to when you want to get pumped up?

7/20/2009 8:28:33 AM

BRITNEY SPEARS!!1!

7/20/2009 8:52:36 AM

^^RAGE

7/20/2009 8:53:56 AM

Starting today with a few guys from work ... this mess is gonna kill me, but its a good excuse to be a little more aware of what I am eating

7/20/2009 9:08:08 AM

Depends on my mood but I usually throw on some Killswitch Engage or All That Remains that just seems to get me going for working out.

7/20/2009 9:10:30 AM

i would like to give this a try but have a question. I live on the top floor of my apartment building. Is this program feasible without making the neighbors below hate me? I have plenty of room in the apartment to work out...just curious if there is a lot of jumping around and such that would cause a big disturbance.

8/2/2009 7:20:11 PM

^depends on the day, the plyometrics is ALL jumping.

Just started this with my roommates, this shit is amazing

8/4/2009 12:45:58 AM

Yes there are a few workouts that you go airborne, mostly Plyo and Kempo. I would talk to whoever lives underneath you and find out what time would least impact them (ie if the dude works shiftwork it wouldn't be very neighborly to be jumping when he is trying to sleep.) If they know you will be banging around 1-2 times a week for 45 minutes around 5:00 pm, I imagine they would be fine (knowing when it will happen and that it will end in 45 mins). Most people are reasonable, especially if you give them a heads-up.

8/4/2009 12:09:34 PM

I'm getting ready to start this workout. does anyone have the latest on their weight loss and how long it took to lose it?

8/4/2009 3:41:00 PM

ive gained several pounds since starting, but thats probably because i stay much better hydrated during the day now.

8/5/2009 2:49:01 AM

Ordered.

Thanks for Jim (FeebleMinded) for the inspiration to get this product. Going to Sports Authority/Walmart/Navy Exchange to get the pull-up bar, weights, heart monitor and yoga pad.

8/10/2009 10:19:28 PM

On week 2. Kicking my ass, but already a pretty dramatic improvement from last week.

^honestly you can do without the expensive as shit yoga pads, a towel works fine. And just get the iron gym pullup bar, runs 20-30 bucks. For weights check craigslist, and they double up as pushup handles. Yes I am a cheapass

8/11/2009 4:42:03 AM

^hah, nothing wrong with that! Thats how I am now too. It really pays off though

8/11/2009 8:23:12 AM

Last night I went shopping for everything. I went to sports authority, walmart, the Navy Exchange, Target, and Kmart.

The only place they had a decent pull-up bar was SA for about $40.
I got the exercise mat, protein and creatine at Walmart.
Target and Kmart had squat.
Today I'm going to go somewhere to get a good athlete's multi-v, heart monitor, weights, and pull-up bar.
Then I'm going to take some pictures.

The wife and I are doing it together.

I just calculated my body fat to be about 15% (which is way more than it used to be). I'm six feet tall and weigh 163 pounds.

I have one 25# weight (one was lost in one of my many moves), so I'm thinking of getting a 10# set (my wife can use for her max), and a 15# set.

If you guys recommend more, please do.

8/11/2009 3:50:01 PM

My old roommate is doing this and loves it. He was in excellent shape to start, being a black belt in goju-shorin, so I guess his muscles are going to have muscles on top of them.

8/11/2009 4:06:47 PM

Kevin on most exercises 25 lbs should be plenty, especially for someone your size. The only problem arises when you do some of the back exercises, such as lawnmowers and shoulder flys, in which I am sure you are more than capable of lifting 40-50 lbs. I ended up buying the Bowflex adjustable weights which go up to 52.5 lbs, and on a few (not many) of the exercises I just do the max weight and call it good enough, although I know I can do more.

I am guessing maybe on some of the exercises you will eventually get to the point of lifting more than 25 lbs. I know on some variations of the curls I do 30 lbs, and sometimes even 35 lbs, but I definitely started around 20-25 lbs on all of them.

Hope that helps.

8/11/2009 5:08:01 PM

OK, so I'm really interested in doing this as well. I'm also training for my first half-marathon, and I'd do this as another way to augment my fitness.

Those of you who've done this, is that wise? Am I going to be too sore and tired to run the four, or five times per week I need to for training?

8/11/2009 5:17:01 PM

^You should be fine. Plyometrics, Legs+Back are the two days where you are going to be BURNED from the workout, and running probably isnt a good idea on top of that.

8/11/2009 7:10:25 PM

okay...I'm pretty absent-minded....

I bought a 25# weight to go with one I thought I had at home....get home and the one at home turned out to be a 20# weight...so I'm going to go get a 20# and a 25# tomorrow...that makes 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 25 (for the wife and I)

we went to a vitamin shop today and got some vitamin packs for myself and the wife, and ended up getting some free protein...but the question I had was about something the guy in the store mentioned....he had just finished P90X and he said the recovery drink was really important....and I thought the protein took care of that...am I wrong?

8/12/2009 3:14:10 AM

Well from what I understand, you should take protein throughout the day, totalling about 100-150 grams per day, depending on your body weight. In addition to that, the recovery drink kind of adds an "instantaneous boost" of high quality protein that goes straight to your muscles after you work them out, repairing the microscopic tears in your muscles that have developed as a result of working out. You can either buy recovery drinks (bad idea) or make your own out of about 8 oz of apple/grape juice and half a scoop of protein powder (good idea).

8/12/2009 3:29:20 AM

thanks jim...that's what I was thinking, and what I thought I saw someone put on here (may have been you)

8/12/2009 5:29:16 AM

Quote :

"so I guess his muscles are going to have muscles on top of them."

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM. Reason : LOL]

8/12/2009 9:28:39 AM

^^All of your "prep" work is a little bit worrying. You are doing the typical "new workout" rituals, surrounding yourself with as much equipment as possible, before actually doing anything.

You need a pull-up bar, a resistance band, a chair and a towel.

You don't need supplements, or recovery drinks or any of the other stuff. Just get started and use what you need. The "recovery drinks" are how they make their money. Water, juice and protein rich foods are plenty

We are just doing the videos and eating/hydrating responsibly. The nutrition guide and workout tracking seems very obsessive to me. We are into the second week and I can already tell a difference in my strength, flexibility and endurance.

8/12/2009 12:18:10 PM

Yeah I went through my own modified version of P90X Lean and I never used any protein supplements or "recovery" drinks. Just take it like you would any other workout, make you sure have enough food/water before hand to make it through the workout(but obviously don't eat right before) and enough liquids to keep you going afterwards.

I finished up my first 90 days, now I'm considering starting it up and actually going for P90X Classic as opposed to Lean just to get more of the muscle toning now that I've gotten a lot of the excess weight off.

8/12/2009 12:40:00 PM

I disagree.

I think the P90X program should be followed as closely as possible, without any modifications. The guide specifically tells you it is a three part program consisting of the workout routine, the diet plan, and supplement intake. While I am sure that anyone who does all the workouts will see results, I can only assume that following all 3 of the tiers will produce much better/quicker results. This program obviously works, so I just don't understand why you would ever not want to follow it exactly as it says.

But that's just my opinion.

8/12/2009 4:26:32 PM

I'm definitely seeing some noticable results but I've been slacking in Phase 2. I was sick for a whole week and that set me back. I also like to drink on the weekends. I try to keep the carb intake down by not drinking too much beer but alcohol still = calories.

8/12/2009 4:32:27 PM

Would you guys recommend whey protein as a supplement to this workout or just eat protein rich foods?

8/12/2009 4:54:54 PM

doesn't it recommend it whey protein?

8/12/2009 8:35:31 PM

Quote :

"I think the P90X program should be followed as closely as possible, without any modifications. The guide specifically tells you it is a three part program consisting of the workout routine, the diet plan, and supplement intake. While I am sure that anyone who does all the workouts will see results, I can only assume that following all 3 of the tiers will produce much better/quicker results. This program obviously works, so I just don't understand why you would ever not want to follow it exactly as it says."

The thing is, if you follow it blindly, it's not much different than a regular workout. The nutrition plan is actually pretty good stuff, but it isn't exactly realistic for a longterm solution. And the supplements are so ridiculously hyped to sell the beachbody stuff, it's not something you "need".

The only supplements worth using are a multi-vitamin (which everyone should really take regardless) and maybe whey protein. But even protein has it's tradeoffs, as it puts stress on your digestive system. I used to use all the supplements and everything, and they absolutely work, but it's all just one more thing to buy, remember to take, and fall out of the habit with.

If you just do the workouts and eat responsibly, you will get in shape and be able to keep it up indefinitely.

8/12/2009 9:11:15 PM

I agree you'll probably see the best results sticking strictly to the plan they lay out, but like was mentioned a few posts back, it's not going to be a long-term thing. The nutrition guide is there if you want to use it, but I don't think it's something that most people are going to want to live by but it can give you good tips on snacks and meal sizes.

From personal experience, if you want to shed some pounds and tone up some using P90X, you don't NEED to follow their nutrition guide, but I'm sure it will only help more. Just eat smart and healthy(don't eat dumb stuff but also no starving yourself) and stick to the workouts and you'll see the results. The supplements are optional, I did take a multi-vitamin(GNC vitapak Sport) for a while but stopped for a stint during the 90 days, but definitely did not take any protein as I was doing the Lean version where I was focused on fat loss as opposed to muscle building.

When I cycle back on and go up to the Classic version I still probably won't use the protein but I'm undecided.

8/13/2009 11:05:16 AM

Here are two things I'm worried about:

1. I have the tightest hamstrings of anyone I know. I injured my back in 1997, had surgery in 1999, and have had problems since getting my hamstrings stretched.

2. When I was 12, I had a major dirt bike accident in which I almost died (see http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=571834&page=1#13112310). As a result, the doctor had to remove some of my tricep and I know some of my other muscles in my right arm are damaged (that is, not per design). If I start working out and build muscle, I have a concern that my arm is going to be all weird-looking (more so than now).

That is all.

8/14/2009 2:21:03 PM

^I haven't been able to touch my toes in like 12 years. In two weeks of this program, I've gone from being 10-12 inches away to 2-3 inches away.

They spend a LOT of time before, during and at the end of each workout stretching and warming up/cooling down.

Don't know about the tricep thing, but you'll probably be fine. One of the guys on the video only has one leg and he gets by

8/14/2009 7:16:12 PM

Noen...that's great news to hear that it's helped your flexibility.

Update:


Arrived! I think I'm going to spend today reading the guides while at work tonight (from 11 pm to 8 am), and then start tomorrow after I wake up or Monday.

Oh..here are two pictures from my arm:



I took some before pictures, but i'm going to keep them for a while.

8/14/2009 11:56:50 PM

okay...so...how is creatine used during this?

8/15/2009 2:58:22 PM

just take it per whatever directions the creatine comes with. 5g/day is more than enough. don't get fancy shit, just plain ol creatine works as well as any other kind.

8/15/2009 3:32:06 PM

i am totally going to try this within the next 6 months or so.

8/16/2009 9:57:35 AM

i'll do it if i can gain 5 more lbs by the end of the month. my trainer porcha believes in me!

8/16/2009 10:03:37 AM

creatine is worthless. just putting more water in your muscle. keep the money in your pocket.

8/16/2009 6:08:03 PM

Just started, almost done with week 2.

I hate the Yoga. Overall the workout is tough but fun.

I'm doing the classic, and so far I can do the workouts but my flexibility is killing me with a lot of it. I'm hoping to get my flexible soon which will help. Also the Ab workout kicks my ass pretty good.

Not following the nutrition plan, just eating well and drinking a lot of water. Also not doing any of the protein but am going to add that in when I start the 2nd phase. For equipment all I got is 2 bands and the strap to use on the door instead of a pull-up bar. Simple, effective, and cheap. I'll buy stronger bands as I go along, and it doesn't take up any space like weights would.

If it works, I'll post pics. I'll also update some on my progress as I go along.

8/19/2009 5:09:33 PM

I was looking at the workouts and they're all about an hour long

I can do 30 minutes, but unless I'm in a class or have a trainer, it's hard to make myself go for any longer.

8/19/2009 7:15:02 PM

^trust me, you never have long enough to think about how long the workouts are. An hour flys by FAST.

We are almost done with week three and I have yet to be bored or distracted. Already noticing a big increase in flexibility and muscular endurance.

8/19/2009 7:19:16 PM

i picked up the 13 dvd set on ebay for $42. They came from hon kong but they are the legit p90x workout dvds. Ebay pulls the add pretty quick after they get reported for selling the bootlegs

8/19/2009 9:18:44 PM

Yeah and with the time you warm up for like 8 minutes, and cool down for 4-5.. so it ends up being about 40 minutes of work.

The one that doesn't fly by is Yoga. I've only done it once, I hated it, and it is 1.5 hours. I want to replace it with something like another round of plyo or cardio. Anyone else done that? I guess I should stick with it but man .. I was pretty miserable for the first 45 minutes of it.

8/19/2009 10:12:37 PM

Quote :

"creatine is worthless. just putting more water in your muscle. keep the money in your pocket."

clearly you have no idea what you're talking about if that's your argument...as far as "money in your pocket", a basic creatine monohydrate is actually pretty cheap






[Edited on August 19, 2009 at 10:24 PM. Reason : ]

8/19/2009 10:23:35 PM

^

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15758854

http://jp.physoc.org/content/573/2/525.full

If you have never worked out before, Creatine will help you noticeably for 16-25 weeks. Once your body is loaded, and your muscle tissue has reached a natural density plateau, Creatine doesn't have much further effect, and certainly nothing near the effect of whey protein.

And "basic creatine monohydrate" is what you want to be weary of. The cheap shit, taken in high dosages, can impair kidney function. If you use it, you should be very careful to get high quality, respected brands, and follow the loading/maintenance/cycle off instructions.

8/20/2009 12:30:47 AM