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9/13/2011 10:09:41 AM

bc nobody reads the last post on a page...

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"i read somewhere a while back that a lot of times when you get the "hungry sensations" late at night, it's really your body telling you that it's sleepy and you need to go to sleep. i can't remember the last time i ate after 8pm. i've been really good about not eating after dinner. ps - i don't know if i'm fighting a bit of a stomach bug or if it was the 8000 spoonfuls of nutella i ate last night before dinner but i have been feel woozy and a bit dizzy since last night. no stomach ache and no actual sickness. (no i'm not preggosaurus) "

I usually do force myself to go to sleep when I'm hungry late at night. But I sometimes wake up with severe hunger pangs around 2 am. So I make myself go back to sleep and then I'm really out of it in the morning and I feel awful. I usually wake up every night around 2 or 3 am. Maybe my blood sugar is too low? The last couple of times I had basic tests run, my fasting blood sugar was below 50. The nurse said that was a bit low, but since my other vitals were fine, it was nothing to worry about.

Also, maybe the nutella affected your blood sugar? If it's not something you're used to eating, it could have caused a sugar spike.

9/13/2011 10:10:41 AM

dawn's phenomenon!

if your blood sugar gets too low at night your body can flip out and jack it up to like 200.

but this almost exclusively seen in diabetics, so this isn't a good response, but i felt like sharing

9/13/2011 10:22:34 AM

I've been dieting and exercising for at least 2 weeks now and haven't lost a pound. I guess I will just start eating salads every night for dinner and do tae bo every day.

9/13/2011 10:55:10 AM

^ How's your sodium intake? Has it been around that time of the month? Note, if you're retaining water, you could be heavier or staying the same weight, but your muscle-to-fat ratio could be better.

Also, if you're building muscle, you may not lose weight. But your clothes might get looser. Pay attention to your clothing and less on the numbers on the scale. Those numbers are important, but if your goal is to slim down/shape up, your clothing will tell the full story.

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9/13/2011 11:01:12 AM

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"Pay attention to your clothing and less on the numbers on the scale. Those numbers are important, but if your goal is to slim down/shape up, your clothing will tell the full story."

if this were a church and lucy was preaching, I would have to yell out "AMEN" to that! I have had to realize that about myself...I tend to be more muscular so I will never weigh as low as I want. I know I am doing well when I am able to buy smaller clothes or take in old ones. We focus too much on the scale.

9/13/2011 11:05:54 AM

I'm going to hide that damn scale from you

9/13/2011 11:06:54 AM

OHHHHHH YEAAAHHHHHHHHHH I'm perioding soon, that's why the scale won't budge. hahaha. But my clothes are definitely more loose. So not complaining.

9/13/2011 11:12:29 AM

My period was last week and it does make me bloated which is why I didn't pay much attention to the numbers. I actually haven't weighed myself in 10 days. I don't think I have a lot of sodium. How much should I aim for? I think wheat bread has the most sodium of anything I eat all day. I don't like salty foods so I never really focused on sodium.

9/13/2011 11:16:50 AM

Lunch meats, soups, cheeses, salad dressings, most condiments ... all pack a punch of sodium.

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9/13/2011 11:24:03 AM

"exercising for at least two weeks and haven't lost a pound" and "haven't weighed myself in 10 days"

does not compute.

9/13/2011 11:24:20 AM

Also, I guess my question got a little buried, but:

If my fasting blood sugar is low (sub-50), should I see a doctor?

9/13/2011 11:28:13 AM

Yes, a psychologist. Why are you fasting, again?

9/13/2011 11:29:58 AM

Why a psychologist?

I had to fast for health screenings at work.

9/13/2011 11:30:51 AM

I mean today was the first day I've weighed myself in ten days.

Anyway, apparently Peter is feeding me sodium. Bastard. I use Raspberry Vinaigrette dressing. It does have 290mg of sodium. But, I sweat A LOT when I work out so I feel like I do need to replace some sodium. Honestly I only count calories and protein. What else should I be monitoring. Everything? /sigh

I don't remember it being this difficult last time I dieted. My Mom mentioned I might want to get my thyroid checked out since her's and my grandmother's is fucked up. I will tweak my diet some more, but if this continues I might have to see a doctor or something.

9/13/2011 11:34:09 AM

thyroid issues can cause all sorts of weirdness.

and if you take thermogenics with thyroid issues it gets even wonkier.

just watch your protein/fats/carbs macros, and find out where you need to be.

9/13/2011 11:35:41 AM

If it's only a normal amount and you work out, then sodium intake isn't an issue. Most likely it's a hormonal thing that could be causing you to retain water.

Also a vitamin deficiency can cause you to hold on to weight. It's really important to get enough vitamin D ... good idea to take a multi. And for women who are sexually active, be sure to take pre-natal vitamins.

9/13/2011 11:36:48 AM

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"Also, maybe the nutella affected your blood sugar? If it's not something you're used to eating, it could have caused a sugar spike."

possibly but i still felt like crap this morning i feel better now though so who knows.

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"I've been dieting and exercising for at least 2 weeks now and haven't lost a pound. I guess I will just start eating salads every night for dinner and do tae bo every day."

are you eating enough?

9/13/2011 12:02:29 PM

Lucy, I would see someone if your's was that low. Below 50 isn't good at all

9/13/2011 12:14:09 PM

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"Yes, a psychologist. Why are you fasting, again?"

I fast almost daily for about 16-18hours. I find it a great way to keep my calories under control, focus on work rather than eating, and it fits my training style very well.

Now that I am bulking (I've gained 15lbs over the course of 3months) I usually fast until my work outs at midday, then pig out post work out.

It's pretty ignorant to correlate fasting with pyschological issues because it can be used as a very useful tool for health, longevity and body composition manipulation.

9/13/2011 12:26:28 PM

^^ Is it an indicator of anything other than hypoglycemia?

I think the blood sugar issue is why I wake up every night around 2 or 3.

^ Plus, every doctor makes you fast before a physical!

9/13/2011 12:31:26 PM

wow....low to mid 50s. I feel like shit when mine is that low and sweaty and often need help to get food. Be careful, Lucy. low sugars are about the worst feelings because it is scary!!! Some people have such low sugars that they need "sugar shots." If you don't want to eat, I wonder if glucose tabs/gel would help you to up your sugar at 2-3am?

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9/13/2011 12:42:27 PM

Glucose tabs used to help me a lot

And Lucy, that's about what mine were and I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia and insulin resistance... I would talk to someone. The last time mine were that low I literally don't remember but bit and pieces until my mom was able to force feed me sugar packs :/ doesn't sound safe

9/13/2011 12:47:05 PM

lucy, go to the pharmacy, look near the diabetics supplies, and find the little bottles of glucose tabs. Each one is about 3-5g of glucose, which is more than the amount of circulating glucose in your bloodstream at any given time. If you get to feeling lightheaded from low sugar, take one and see if it helps.

9/13/2011 12:49:57 PM

Get green apple!

9/13/2011 1:01:41 PM

I am partially biased towards grape!

9/13/2011 1:05:20 PM

That's good to know. Had never considered glucose tabs.

Will def schedule a doc appt. Haven't had a regular check-up in years ... since 2002 maybe ... long overdue for a checkup. I just do the basic health screenings at work (weight, cholesterol, blood pressure, blood sugar, etc.).

9/13/2011 1:08:29 PM

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"I fast almost daily for about 16-18hours. I find it a great way to keep my calories under control, focus on work rather than eating, and it fits my training style very well. "

It's easy for you to fast because your work involves actual working out (or being active in helping someone else work out). I've found physical activity to be one the best appetite suppressants over the years.

But since I sit in my office behind my desk most of the day, fasting for that long is pretty damn near impossible.

9/13/2011 1:10:05 PM

^Yea... boredom is a HUGE factor in hunger control. If I am sedentary for a few hours with nothing keeping me focused, I start cruising the pantry for snacks.

Coffee helps.

[Edited on September 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM. Reason : grammar skool]

9/13/2011 1:39:42 PM

^agreed completely.

9/13/2011 1:55:11 PM

well, I was gonna work out today before heading out to take care of a traffic ticket. now, fuck everything

9/13/2011 2:37:40 PM

why should that change your plan?

9/13/2011 3:35:54 PM

that didn't change shit. having my job that I was supposed to start on monday disappear sure as fuck did

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9/13/2011 8:30:49 PM

Would you consider strength training class as vigorous or regular when I track calories?


Keep in mind, a class holds me more accountable and pushes me more than I would if I were doing it myself.

9/14/2011 9:54:19 AM

I'd figure if one aspect of your life/day went sour, you'd want to improve another aspect even more, especially one that's in your control (i.e. the gym).

I hate to see people get discouraged all-around due to one specific instance that turned out poorly.


Personally, I've never, ever felt worse after a workout/run than I had before it. Quite the opposite.

[Edited on September 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM. Reason : \/ \/ \/ With the exception of injuries ]

9/14/2011 10:13:15 AM

^^ How does your HR feel? I would probably err more toward the regular than vigorous.

9/14/2011 10:15:42 AM

HR isnt as high as cardio but I definitely sweat and go to muscle failure.

9/14/2011 10:17:45 AM

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"Personally, I've never, ever felt worse after a workout/run than I had before it. Quite the opposite."

i sure have!

until the morphine kicked in

9/14/2011 10:19:12 AM

^ ahahaha because of that story, I started taking calcium supplements

9/14/2011 10:22:54 AM

???

9/14/2011 10:31:55 AM

He broke his leg while running a half-marathon.

9/14/2011 10:36:00 AM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=595049

blew my shit out running 13.1 (ok 13.0) miles on a leg with an existing stress fracture

[Edited on September 14, 2011 at 10:38 AM. Reason : that thread was epic posting from a touchpad on the hospital bed, jacked up on DRUGZZ]

9/14/2011 10:37:43 AM

Time to upgrade your shoes.

9/14/2011 10:38:41 AM

oh god I just saw the xray and read the play by play damn

9/14/2011 10:40:57 AM

the worst part about that was it happened 8 days before my birthday, and my gf/fiancee had planned a keg party with a bouncy castle. that would have been awesome.

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9/14/2011 10:47:18 AM

are you able to run now?

9/14/2011 10:49:22 AM

yeah. everything's dandy now.

only bothers me if it's cold or going to rain, and well... living in southeast texas now instead of delaware neither of those things happen often.

when i wasn't exercising for shit it'd be really tight in the mornings but i think that lifting a lot and doing other cardio stuff has really put that bitch into place.

9/14/2011 10:52:39 AM

i had a slightly weird pain in my shin while running on monday and now I'm all freaked out... thanks!

9/14/2011 10:54:41 AM

i have had thoughts while deadlifting or something that my other leg's just going to explode.

seems unlikely

9/14/2011 10:55:35 AM

well, i feel somewhat better after my workout today. even cam eback and took the dog for a spin around the block on the bike, slowly of course. no way would I have completed a workout yesterday, though.

9/14/2011 9:48:08 PM