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PhotogRob
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I'm so glad I don't work at Wolf anymore. That Kiwi sales pitch on the previous page is the same shit, recycled one year later. Kiwi, youre not gonna take over chit chat

11/27/2008 2:01:13 PM

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I'm just surprised that the D40 hasn't gone down in price in over a year. That's the exact same sales last thanksgiving cause I helped my friend get that package. It's a great entry level camera, but good god, I think they just a little too massive on the production scale

Oh, btw, I saw the most frightening thing last night at the Canes game. One of the other sports photographers slipped and fell on the stairs. In the corner of my eye, I saw a 1D with a 400 f/2.8 IS fly down about 20 steps before hitting concrete barrier. The clunks it made going down the steps were gut wrenching. And you could definately tell, he was not a happy camper. The actual chassis on the lens broke in two, mount on the lens fell off, mount on the body is fubar, and there's something loose in the body.

[Edited on November 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM. Reason : ]

11/27/2008 6:07:12 PM

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^Ugh...that makes me cringe thinking about that

My turkey day lunch. Dessert isn't shown. I've never shot food before...but you get the idea.

11/27/2008 6:56:36 PM

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haha Photorob it's just a filler until I go to school. Luckily I'm seasonal so the pressure really isn't on me to sell cameras though the added commission is nice.

I wouldn't recommend anyone work at Wolf but I am learning a lot from the people who do work there about cameras.

We get such a shitty discount on cameras too.

11/27/2008 7:20:30 PM

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I was talking to my Dad yesterday and he's thinking about getting my mom a DSLR and said he was looking at the D40. I said LOL thats what i have. Thats kinda funny.

wut, just so you're clear, Nikon and Canons have VR or IS in the lenses, not the bodies. I don't feel VR is needed on the 18-55mm, but I would def want it on anything longer. Its a must on the 55-200mm.

Kiwi, what kinda discount?

Check out my rad duck:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/3062447071_b0d81dfaa4_b.jpg

11/27/2008 7:25:29 PM

Kiwi
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7%

11/27/2008 7:28:41 PM

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Ah. actuall with the Australian dollar so low right now (0.63ish) a lot of stuff is actually cheaper here. I got that Nikkon 55-200mm VR for $130US. Not bad.

7% probably isn't worth bribing you for. I wouldn't mind a D90 though... gah, can't some fall off the truck?

11/27/2008 7:35:31 PM

Kiwi
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or fall into my hand right before i quit?


JAYKAY

11/27/2008 7:37:59 PM

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Post lots of pics once you get to play around with the tokina 11-16! That's the next lens I think I'm going to buy but I haven't known anyone that actually owned one yet.

11/27/2008 8:59:09 PM

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This is supposed to be a good bang for the buck macro:
http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-105mm-Medium-Telephoto-Cameras/dp/B0002P19XK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1227838587&sr=1-1

Nikon and Canon mounts available of course.

11/27/2008 9:19:23 PM

Kiwi
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17-70, is more of what I'm looking for.

11/27/2008 11:57:21 PM

dannydigtl
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I think i'd like to get a 50mm prime, i'll probably get a nice old MF one if i get an old camera. With that i'll just get some tube extensions and that outta do me good enough for macro on the cheap.

50mm F1.8D is $100 (MF only on D40)

Set up extension tubes are $170.

11/28/2008 1:21:11 AM

Bweez
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gewt a 50mm 1.4

11/28/2008 1:22:33 AM

Woodfoot
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or save 200+ dollars and only lose one stop

or go on ebay and get it for like $60

11/28/2008 3:11:32 AM

Bweez
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its more than 1 stop

11/28/2008 3:15:18 AM

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bleh..it was early

11/28/2008 8:12:14 AM

Ronny
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Quote :
"gewt a 50mm 1.4"



The Sigma 50 1.4 is cheaper and better, from what I've read.
I also hear the Sigma 30 1.4 is an incredible lens.

11/28/2008 10:25:22 AM

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dannydigtl, for me just starting out I probably dont need anything right now other than the D40 and standard 18-55 lens right?

11/28/2008 2:32:30 PM

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I purchased the d40 with the 2 lenses and was kinda upset when I found out that you get the $250 55-200 non-VR lens... instead of the $300 55-200 VR lens

I've taken 250 pictures since monday and am glad to have a DSLR instead of a film camera to learn on... Ie haven't taken any pictures I'm proud enough to share yet

I really want the $100 a 50mm f1.8 at least so I can shoot low light and it's cheap

I also want the sigma 10-20 lens b/c on our farms I found out the reason you need to go further out than 18mm







[Edited on November 28, 2008 at 3:43 PM. Reason : did that link right from picasa?]

11/28/2008 3:15:12 PM

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wut get the 55-200 lens too, that will get you set for a bit

also does anyone know of a place where i can get a kick ass deal on a canon 30d with kit lens?


[Edited on November 28, 2008 at 4:46 PM. Reason : thx]

11/28/2008 4:39:31 PM

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it's the sheer volume of unc bandwagon fans that bring the money.

11/28/2008 5:11:27 PM

wut
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Whos a bandwagon fan?

11/28/2008 6:56:19 PM

dannydigtl
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def get the 55-200mm with VR. Its has different and better optics in addition to the VR.


If i get an old 50mm, it'll be the 50mm F1.4 AIS. the F1.4 and F1.8s are both around $140 in the old AIS MF only. Theyre supposed to be really nice lenses. But they won't meter in a lot of nonPro bodies and of course are MF only.

Or the new Nikon 50mm F1.8D is only $100ish and will meter properly, but still MF only for the D40/50/60. Nikon will be releasing a new AF-S 50mm F1.8 this month but it'll be like $450

GoFigure, check this out: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users-guide/index.htm. His "Optimize Quality" settings for jpeg mode help a good bit to add a little color and sharpness. the default is a little drab and soft. I also use the -0.7 exposure compensation and it normally does about right.

[Edited on November 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM. Reason : fdf]

11/28/2008 10:37:26 PM

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"its more than 1 stop"


how is f/1.4 more than 1 stop different than f/1.8

11/29/2008 12:21:41 AM

PhotogRob
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It's not. It's 2/3 stop.

11/29/2008 1:25:25 AM

Bweez
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I was really meaning to say that the 1.4 is just a better quality lens than cheap nifty fifties. But I was wasted as well.

[Edited on November 29, 2008 at 2:23 AM. Reason : hdfs]

11/29/2008 2:22:49 AM

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"GoFigure, check this out: http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40/users-guide/index.htm His "Optimize Quality" settings for jpeg mode help a good bit to add a little color and sharpness. the default is a little drab and soft. I also use the -0.7 exposure compensation and it normally does about right."


Cool, thanks man I'll give that a shot.

11/29/2008 9:51:44 AM

Ronny
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http://lapp-pro.de/

11/29/2008 2:12:35 PM

PhotogRob
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Ha, that shit's cool. Lets go out night shooting one day this week, Ronny

11/29/2008 3:08:35 PM

Ronny
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You got it. Hopefully my 11-16 will come in by monday, then I'd be even more stoked about it. Got any cool lights to use?

11/29/2008 3:10:26 PM

PhotogRob
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Hmm, we could play around with a speedlight and some gels.

11/29/2008 3:45:56 PM

Ronny
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OOF has a huge spotlight he said we can use. I can try and grab a neutral density or daylight compensation blue gel from work.

11/29/2008 3:49:03 PM

PhotogRob
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Sounds cool.

If any of y'all have an external speedlight, I'd recommend picking up one of these

http://www.adorama.com/ROSB.html?searchinfo=rosco%20sample&item_no=2

Put the gels in front of your flash lens and have some fun "painting" at night.

11/29/2008 3:51:52 PM

DoubleDown
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http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2326

11/29/2008 5:15:25 PM

JBaz
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Nikon's new studio camera is out. D3x. Price and release date isn't set yet, but since the D3 is around the 5k, it's probably gonna be around 8-10k mark. The neat thing about it is that you can reduce the MP down to 10 and shoot at 7fps. A big plus for those who want a studio camera that can pull double duty for sports.

Although, I'm excited to get my hands on the new 5D's. The school is talking about picking a pair up for next semester.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/28/nikon-outs-d3x-in-own-pro-magazine/

11/29/2008 8:42:52 PM

Ronny
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^^[OLD]

That was posted a few pages back.


Still, it is awesome as fuck.


(and that rig is pretty damn sweet)

[Edited on November 29, 2008 at 9:58 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2008 9:50:17 PM

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Dammit I cant buy anything until Monday.

I still cant seem to find a D40 package with 18-55 and 55-200 VR lens

11/29/2008 11:39:29 PM

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^^ Whats old, the mount or Laforet's video?

Here is a little compilation video he did [Warning: Nov 26th - so it may be OLD too] with the 5D.

7 Days, 7 Shoots - EOS 5D MKII
http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/gallery/6042742_wZKiA#424860674_7Ykfo-A-LB

11/30/2008 2:27:23 AM

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http://www.costco.com/Browse/Productgroup.aspx?Prodid=11328037&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|79|83|76275&N=4025522&Mo=11&pos=4&No=8&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=76275&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC10604-Cat83&topnav=


anyone know of a better deal than this?

11/30/2008 2:48:14 AM

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I'm Big Business and i condone the use of fpage 87

11/30/2008 2:50:03 AM

dannydigtl
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^^wut, the $599 package (D40 + 18-55mm + 55-200mmVR) = SOLD!

11/30/2008 2:57:51 AM

wut
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Im gonna pick it up Monday then!

Now all thats left is a new TV! Off to Tech Talk!

Thanks for all the advice ITT, btw!

So uh, I guess all thats left is to buy a copy of CS3 then? Even with the academic discount



[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 3:12 AM. Reason : .]

11/30/2008 3:11:06 AM

PhotogRob
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^^^^^the video is [old]. That rig is pretty damn sweet though.

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 3:58 AM. Reason : [^]]

11/30/2008 3:57:34 AM

Ronny
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Vincent Laforet, while being talented, is a huge fucking douchebag.

Just read his interviews.


Holy shit he loves himself.

11/30/2008 11:21:07 AM

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^^^why but it?

11/30/2008 11:27:21 AM

wut
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Well... Ive never found a SN that worked

11/30/2008 11:59:07 AM

JBaz
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why buy cs3 when cs4 is out?

And I want that rig setup for the 5D. Pretty badass. Makes me think of the red's now. Didn't realize they have future products for 2010 already listed on their website. They have a video camera that's planned to record at 28000x9334, that's 261MP at 25fps. I like how some of their systems will take on canon or nikon lens with an adapter.

http://www.red.com/epic_scarlet/

11/30/2008 2:23:22 PM

wut
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^ well damn, I didnt know about CS4. Hopefully now CS3 will be in a price range I wouldnt mind paying for

11/30/2008 2:38:11 PM

Ronny
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Yeah, the Red Scarlet gives me a fucking huge, raging boner.

11/30/2008 2:39:31 PM

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anyone have any experience with the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM lens?

11/30/2008 3:03:15 PM

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