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Unfortunately, the "best" candidate staying the race is going to cause one of the worst candidates to win and then subsequently lose the general.

Weird, all of these people who lectured us on strategic voting in 2016 are doing the exact opposite now.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:30 PM. Reason : ..]

3/3/2020 8:29:35 PM

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2016 yesterday. 2016 today. 2016 forever.

3/3/2020 8:29:42 PM

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"Your silly ass "thanks Warren voters" like theyre responsible"

Eat a dick, I said "way to go"

... because they wasted their vote. And results werent out when i posted that, but you dont need those to know it was a wasted vote unless results are very surprising

3/3/2020 8:30:48 PM

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^^^You can't win the general, without winning the primary first. Just ask Bernie

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:31 PM. Reason : Bernie is the BEST HYPOTHETICAL FOIL TO TRUMP EVAR!]

3/3/2020 8:31:05 PM

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Not bernies fault that he sowed the "burn it all down" seeds 4 years leaving resentments, endorse a policy revolution but not the government revolution needed to get things done, and refused to attack his opponents bc they're friends (Biden mostly, but also Warren)

^^the post was about Biden winning nc??

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:32 PM. Reason : E]

3/3/2020 8:31:09 PM

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Damn, I am agreeing with rwoody so much right now that it's a little uncomfortable.

James Harden is overrated and the Rockets won't win the title this year.

3/3/2020 8:32:25 PM

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So you're telling a large group of people "go fuck yourself" over issues that you ultimately don't even find to be "make or break". Sounds about white.

Also, how is the "best" candidate not the one with the most support?

3/3/2020 8:33:07 PM

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^ Probably because Bernie Bros did a good job of smearing her, kinda like they did to Clinton?

3/3/2020 8:34:02 PM

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I mean i already said I'm voting for Bernie, still will, but its silly to lay blame everywhere but your own candidate. Like the people refusing to lay any blame at Hilary feet.

3/3/2020 8:34:14 PM

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"^^^You can't win the general, without winning the primary first. Just ask Bernie"


Sure. Get those jabs in. Meanwhile, the party is willing to throw away the entire election and hand Trump four more years by consolidating around Biden, just to keep someone out of office who wants to make things better. Pretty gross.

3/3/2020 8:35:26 PM

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Wait so if Bernie bros can easily undermine the best candidate to the point of devastation, why wouldn't you want to deploy them against Trump?

like, which is it?

3/3/2020 8:36:21 PM

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^^the post was about Biden winning nc??"

Yes, how the hell is the post this confusing for you?

3/3/2020 8:37:02 PM

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Warren has been lying about Sanders for weeks, but bErNiE bRoS sMeArRd hEr

3/3/2020 8:38:21 PM

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"Sure. Get those jabs in. Meanwhile, the party is willing to throw away the entire election and hand Trump four more years by consolidating around Biden, just to keep someone out of office who wants to make things better. Pretty gross.

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You're under the assumption of a lot of shit that hasn't happened yet would be inevitable including:

1. Bernie is liked widely enough that he would be a shoo-in for the nom, but Warren (sry but no way to prove this)
2. Bernie would beat Trump in the general (I think he'd get waxed, but his odds would probably be a coin flip if being srs)
3. Bernie would be able to unite all branches of government to push through his 'political revolution' (FAT FUCKING CHANCE)

He's a flawed candidate. Face it already. So is Warren. How is my vote for a 'flawed' candidate (DNA kit? Super PAC? Too much like Hillary because she's phony/untrustworthy/ect) any worse than yours?

As I've already stated, most Americans are terrified of socialism, and the ones who supposedly LOOOOOVE it aren't showing up. Bernie's problem, not mine.



[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:42 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 8:40:23 PM

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One of those flawed candidates was better positioned to win

Im keeping of list of people who cant make fun of horosho's voting history anymore

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:47 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 8:42:03 PM

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was

Blame the system if you want. It's dumb AF to have a primary/caucus/EC system like we have in this country, but that's not changing any time soon.

Blame Warren supporters for not hitching their star to Bernie, despite being pretty similar on policy if it helps you sleep at night.

3/3/2020 8:43:57 PM

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UJW said he preferred biden over Bernie so you should thank him for voting warren

3/3/2020 8:44:27 PM

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^^^^
You threw away your vote to support a candidate who had no chance to win the primary, allowing a candidate who can't win the general to take the lead. But like I said, I don't blame you for voting who you want. I blame Warren for using her position of power to wreck the chance of a progressive win.

We have no idea what would happen with Bernie, and at least he is a progressive. We know exactly what is going to happen with Joe.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:46 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 8:45:50 PM

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I dont blame warren voters, they just made a predictable mistake

Warren herself though should share some blame though, her endorsement could have made a huge difference but instead she killed any chance of a progressive president

3/3/2020 8:45:55 PM

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I actually like Bernie's POLICIES better than Biden, but he's not in any position to unite a deeply divided country with a socialist agenda. He's just not.

I already said I'd vote for Bernie if he became the nom, so forgive me for having options that may not be the same as others.

You guys are the ones being hypocrites about this, not me. You're just mad you didn't get your way, but you still don't seem to understand why.

Again, socialism is deeply unpopular for most Americans. I wish the Dems had better options for a more centrist nom, but they dropped out. Why aren't people pissed at Buttigieg/Kolbachar for selling out to Biden? Oh wait...



[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:48 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 8:46:05 PM

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The most popular candidate cant unite people!

Scary socialism!

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:49 PM. Reason : Those people arent pissed at selling out to biden because theyre happy to burn it down to stop sande]

3/3/2020 8:48:00 PM

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I'm pissed at both of them, but only because they didn't endorse Warren. See how this works?

3/3/2020 8:49:53 PM

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Well its strange you ever thought that was a possible scenario

3/3/2020 8:50:42 PM

UJustWait84
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You still aren't getting it. Go take a chill pill or a walk or something and calm down. You'll think more clearly and accept the truth more easily when you quit being so angry for not getting your way.

3/3/2020 8:52:08 PM

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Projecting a bit

3/3/2020 8:52:49 PM

UJustWait84
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I'm projecting a big L for Bernie when it comes to getting the nom.

3/3/2020 8:53:37 PM

dtownral
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i know right, "thanks Warren voters" indeed

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:56 PM. Reason : for roddy]

3/3/2020 8:55:53 PM

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I mean I voted by mail a few weeks ago, without foreseeing what happened over the weekend. If I were voting in person today, I might have changed my mind. Probably not.

3/3/2020 8:58:28 PM

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Biden is crushing these results. I can’t blame warren. Her dropping out wouldn’t have made much of a difference.

Trump is going to really be running against Obama now. And with the actual “socialist” out of the race it’s going to make gop allegations of socialism ring more hollow.

3/3/2020 8:59:06 PM

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Who’s Biden picking as his veep? Has to be Kamala right? Could see an Abrams or gillum too.

3/3/2020 9:02:40 PM

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"Her dropping out wouldn’t have made much of a difference."


complete, total, bullshit

3/3/2020 9:03:32 PM

moron
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Her votes split. Bernie would have more delegates but still not enough. This basically happens anyway when she drops out right ?

3/3/2020 9:05:04 PM

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QUICK, LET'S BLAME CNN AND THE LIBERAL CENTRIST MEDIA SINCE BIDEN IS WINNING SO MUCH! ELIZABETH WARREN IS IN BED WITH THEM!

3/3/2020 9:06:00 PM

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Hes crushing it because of a coordinated campaign to all back biden right before the election gave him a bunch of mlmentum, this is contrasted with Warren attacking Sanders, if she came out and made a big deal about backing sanders it would have been the same energy

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 9:06 PM. Reason : Among candidates not CNN, whose blaming CNN?]

3/3/2020 9:06:04 PM

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IF IFS WERE SKIFFS WE'D ALL BE FLOATIN' DOWN DA BAYOU

^CNN was absolutely blamed for 'not giving Bernie enough coverage' earlier. I'm too lazy to dig through the posts, but Bernie Bros and anti-CNN sentiment go hand-in-hand. Well, whenever he's not winning, anyway...

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 9:08 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 9:06:55 PM

dtownral
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Thats true, we cant know what ifs

On that note Hillary Clinton should jump in the race

3/3/2020 9:08:30 PM

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"Hes crushing it because of a coordinated campaign to all back biden right before the election gave him a bunch of mlmentum, this is contrasted with Warren attacking Sanders, if she came out and made a big deal about backing sanders it would have been the same energy"


This, plus her supporters had Bernie as a second choice at like 40%. If she endorsed Bernie, it would have gone way above that.

3/3/2020 9:09:13 PM

UJustWait84
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BERNIE MATH: It's making a YUGE comeback in 2020!

3/3/2020 9:11:50 PM

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lol it literally just happened with pete. his supporters were split 20/20/20/20, but the vast majority went to biden because he endorsed him

3/3/2020 9:13:43 PM

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Lol, Bloomberg is going to hand Bernie Texas.

Won’t matter in the end but that narcissistic shitbag did the exact opposite he wanted to.

3/3/2020 9:13:56 PM

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"For those wondering about the exact results in American Samoa, it was Bloomberg 175, Gabbard 103, Sanders 37, Biden 31 and Warren 5. Those are raw votes, not percentages. I would like to take this opportunity to say that I predicted yesterday in front of God and the whole FiveThirtyEight office that Bloomberg would finish first in American Samoa and Gabbard would finish second"


So the only viable candidates that will receive delegstes from American Samoa are Bloomberg and Gabbard.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 9:16 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 9:14:27 PM

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Also, the Virginia turnout is nuts. That state is lost to the GOP for a generation.

^ I didn’t know Tulsi was actually born there

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 9:17 PM. Reason : X]

3/3/2020 9:15:30 PM

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^^ like any true Americans, they clearly love money and conspiracy theories.

3/3/2020 9:16:16 PM

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"Hes crushing it because of a coordinated campaign to all back biden right before the election gave him a bunch of mlmentum, this is contrasted with Warren attacking Sanders, if she came out and made a big deal about backing sanders it would have been the same energy
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3/3/2020 9:18:49 PM

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Which part do disagree with, moron?

3/3/2020 9:19:51 PM

moron
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guaranteed Obama endorses Biden after tonight.

Start coming up with your pro Biden arguments to use with your trump friends and disaffected democratic voters. We’re going to need everyone to turnout whether you like Biden or not.

3/3/2020 9:20:25 PM

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Obama isn’t endorsing anyone until it’s over. Jesus. Do you know anything about him?

3/3/2020 9:21:18 PM

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^ some credible pundit was saying he was planning something. I think he will make an endorsement of Biden keeps winning. For the simple reason that the general election is not far away and every day campaigning against trump is better than another day of democratic primary.

3/3/2020 9:23:28 PM

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Once Biden is assured he’ll endorse. There is literally no way he’d endorse anyone until it’s a certainty they will be against Trump.

And he would endorse and heavily campaign for Sanders and it isn’t even a question.

3/3/2020 9:24:43 PM

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set em up

3/3/2020 9:26:17 PM

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