idk i'm just saying i read about the pipeline shit like yesterday(2 days ago now if you consider today the 26th)...anyways...i guess its not big deal i just like bragging about myself

10/26/2008 1:58:06 AM

Quote :

"A new e-mail making the rounds among Jewish voters in Pennsylvania this week falsely alleged that Mr. Obama “taught members of Acorn to commit voter registration fraud,’’ and equated a vote for Senator Barack Obama with the “tragic mistake” of their Jewish ancestors, who “ignored the warning signs in the 1930’s and 1940’s.” ... But where most of the attack e-mails against Mr. Obama have been mostly either anonymous or from people outside of mainstream politics, this one had an unusually official provenance: It was sponsored by the Pennsylvania Republican Party’s “Victory 2008” committee. And it was signed by several prominent McCain supporters in the state: Mitchell L. Morgan, a top fund-raiser; Hon. Sandra Schwartz Newman, a member of Mr. McCain’s national task-force monitoring Election Day voting, and I. Michael Coslov, a steel industry executive."

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pennsylvania-republicans-send-false-anti-obama-e-mail/

Did you know that Barack Hussein Obama killed six million Jews? It is true.

10/26/2008 10:12:09 AM

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"Sandra Schwartz Newman"

A name couldn't get any more Zionist than that. Fucking bastards.

Now hooksaw will come in calling me an anti-semite, followed by the rolly eyes, of course.

10/26/2008 10:22:09 AM

Don't worry. He'll still have the Jewish vote. We love black people.

10/26/2008 10:51:07 AM

Ken Adelman: Why a Staunch Conservative Like Me Endorsed Obama

Quote :

"So I've considered myself less of a partisan than an ideologue. I cared about conservative principles, and still do, instead of caring about the GOP. Granted, McCain's views are closer to mine than Obama's. But I've learned over this Bush era to value competence along with ideology. Otherwise, our ideology gets discredited, as it has so disastrously over the past eight years. McCain's temperament -- leading him to bizarre behavior during the week the economic crisis broke -- and his judgment -- leading him to Wasilla -- depressed me into thinking that "our guy" would be a(nother) lousy conservative president. Been there, done that. I'd rather a competent moderate president. Even at a risk, since Obama lacks lots of executive experience displaying competence (though his presidential campaign has been spot-on). And since his Senate voting record is not moderate, but depressingly liberal. Looming in the background, Pelosi and Reid really scare me. Nonetheless, I concluded that McCain would not -- could not -- be a good president. Obama just might be."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ken-adelman/why-a-staunch-conservativ_b_137749.html

10/26/2008 11:55:27 AM

i know someone posted the article about this, but you should read the actual letter
http://www.yelp.com/redir?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffocusfamaction.edgeboss.net%2Fdownload%2Ffocusfamaction%2Fpdfs%2F10-22-08_2012letter.pdf

10/26/2008 12:32:20 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/26/palin-annoyed-with-cbs-interviewer/

Quote :

"“Last time I was here I got to tell a crowd that I had to give a national interview that didn’t go so well,” she said. “And it was because I was kind of annoyed with the questions that I was being asked because I thought they were kind of irrelevant to, you know, national security issues and getting our economy back on track, so I kind of showed some of that annoyance.” Couric did, in fact, ask Palin several questions about the economy and national security, focusing in particular on the congressional bailout package, the mortgage crisis, John McCain’s record on regulation, the war in Afghanistan, hunting terrorists in Pakistan, Russia, Iran, Syria, Israel and the role of the United States in the world."

I find it funny that she's now attacking Couric's line of questioning, that they weren't tough enough. Sweet Jesus. Get over the fact that you fucked up your first major interview. Couric was right to ask her about who she is, what her interests are. She couldn't have just stepped into being named the VP without people wanting to know about her.





how much longer til this fucking campaign is over????

10/26/2008 2:08:34 PM

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/13/palin_stays_on_the_offensive_a.html

The article isn't about this, I just thought it was hilarious:

Quote :

" The crowd was so large, in fact, that some supporters standing far back from the stage began chanting 'Louder, louder!' midway through Palin's speech after she had paid homage to military veterans in the crowd. Palin, who assumed they were protesters, said in response to the chants, "I hope those protesters have the courage and honor to give veterans thanks for their right to protest." "

Poor Sarah.

[Edited on October 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM. Reason : /]

10/26/2008 2:38:07 PM

isn't that like 2 weeks old?

10/26/2008 2:39:15 PM

^^^^the letter in that link is one of the most ridiculous pieces of future fiction I have ever read.

utterly ridiculous.

10/26/2008 3:05:46 PM

Found this with StumbleUpon.


[Edited on October 26, 2008 at 5:31 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2008 5:30:25 PM

100,000+ in Denver today

10/26/2008 5:34:48 PM

I canceled out hooksaw's vote today.

10/26/2008 5:52:55 PM

oh knows McPalin is going to commit suicide losing to a negro

10/26/2008 6:28:21 PM

black man doin' his thang baby Barack Obama motherfucka Barack Obama, I'm the president of hittin' that ass

10/26/2008 7:48:27 PM

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20081026

10/27/2008 3:46:17 AM

^The soldier blog they have set up is a pretty good read. Just as an aside.

10/27/2008 4:04:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

10/27/2008 8:26:17 AM

Quote :

"For eight U.S. presidential elections during the period 1960-2004, the rapid blinker during debates received fewer overall votes than his opponent. In seven of these eight elections, the rapid blinker also lost the electoral vote and was defeated at the polls." -- Journal of Psychology observation, cited on net in reference to McCain blinking 3,000 times during the third debate "

10/27/2008 8:29:36 AM

Republicans going out with class.

10/27/2008 9:25:30 AM

i didnt know he was Barack Jr.

10/27/2008 9:56:46 AM

He isn't.

10/27/2008 10:50:12 AM

Very telling example of the breakdown of the press's responsibility.

The Obama campaign put Biden in front of Orlando's Barbara West, one of the last journalists who understands the proper role of the press to ask the tough questions of everyone.

When asked to explain the difference between Obama's "spread the wealth" concept and Marxism, Biden sat like a deer in the headlight. All he could come up with was "Are you kidding" and "we're trying to give back tax breaks to the middle class"

It was obvious that he hadn't been properly trained to answer this question. The Obama campaign must've thought the willing press would never dare to ask his holiness such questions.

In the new spirit of "transparency", the campaign banned the station from further access to the campaign.

And if anyone has any doubts to Obama's marxist leanings, check out his 2001 PBS interview that is all over YouTube.

10/27/2008 10:53:58 AM

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."

and

"A perfect democracy, a 'warm body' democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally has no internal feedback for self correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens...which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it...which for the majority translates as 'Bread and Circuses'

"Bread and Circuses is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader"

--Robert Heinlein




I really feel we are seeing the start of the end of this country. Thats why I feel the fairtax is the only thing that can save this nation long term. Makes everyone pay a share.

10/27/2008 11:21:02 AM

^^Oh, come on. Those were a bunch of blatantly loaded questions. She basically kept asking him "How is Obama NOT a Marxist?" Well gee, bitch, why does saying things like "spread the wealth" make him a Marxist, exactly? Because the US government has been spreadin' the wealth since the establishment of income taxes. That reporter is a GOP cuntbag.

10/27/2008 12:11:03 PM

Quote :

"Barbara West, one of the last journalists who understands the proper role of the press to ask the tough questions of everyone."

your statement is full of shit.

did you even see her interview of McCain (or Biden for that matter)? what "tough" questions did she ask the maverick? every question she asked Biden was fully loaded and she did all but suck McCain's cock. Biden stepped up very well and didn't even flinch at her bullshit. watch West's invterview of Biden and McCain back-to-back and tell me that her questions weren't biased and she has no agenda.

McCain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvJ1zUsVcWM

Biden:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X346U109Chs&feature=related

10/27/2008 12:30:35 PM

Quote :

"EarthDogg Very telling example of the breakdown of the press's responsibility. The Obama campaign put Biden in front of Orlando's Barbara West, one of the last journalists who understands the proper role of the press to ask the tough questions of everyone."

good lord.

either you didnt watch the interviews, and are just making shit up to hear yourself talk, or youre a goddamned idiot.

i dont know why i keep thinking you're like one of the intellectual conservatives on this board.

10/27/2008 12:40:45 PM

Can I say something here? This will be the last time I address this ridiculous 'spread the wealth' = socialism bullshit.

Look guys, every freaking adjustment to any tax policy is 'spreading the wealth' and redistributing wealth based on tax brackets anyway. There is heavy context with how you do this, and where the largest cuts are. But as they say, to take an inch and spread a mile here....the idea that Obama's tax policies and ideas of 'wealth redistribution' are really not that radical, they just taper similar to Clinton's tax plans in the 90s where the wealthy get hit harder and the middle class get a tax cut.

But admit it, by making this dramatic extrapolation and declaring this some big red agenda of socialism is pure fucking lunacy. It's playing to an agenda, a talking point based on fear, a way to frame Obama like every other damn democrat running for election as some socialist Robin Hood asshole who wants to give all the lazy bums on the street more money while bleeding Mortimer dry over in upscale city.

But the problem is, that's not the fucking case...and you know it. Low tax bracket people already don't pay hardly a thing, and nothing will change. What will change is the 30K-90K (roughly) salary mark where there's a cut, then the 100-250K level is roughly even, but after that, you get dinged a bit to help that first bracket. OMG SOCIALISM!@!@#! WTFBBQ. It killed us in the 90s didn't it?

You can not agree with the tax policy, and disagree gracefully...that's fine. But the charge of socialism is just a high water talking point meant to scare and irrationalize the discussion. It's crap, and these type of transparent arguments are why I think McCain is losing.

10/27/2008 12:47:27 PM

Quote :

"A perfect democracy, a 'warm body' democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally has no internal feedback for self correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens...which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it...which for the majority translates as 'Bread and Circuses'"

IF people are so naive and foolish and prone to folly, what makes you think capitalism alone is viable ideal for democracy?

If people are too dumb to govern themselves, there's plenty other things they can't do. The tax rate is the LEAST of your worries if you really believe these ideas. You seem to have a problem with democracy itself.

10/27/2008 1:00:48 PM

not at all. With capitalism someone creates a product/service to fit a need. If someone can do it better/cheaper then so be it. Society benefits in the long run. That is far different from VOTING to take money from one and give it directly to you. Society will not benefit long term from this system.

As illustrated by this "that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader"

[Edited on October 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2008 1:17:54 PM

Quote :

"Clinton's tax plans in the 90s where the wealthy get hit harder and the middle class get a tax cut. "

by tax cut, you mean increase?

10/27/2008 1:20:31 PM

Quote :

"As illustrated by this "that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader""

That's actually NOT a fact.

Quote :

"by tax cut, you mean increase?"

No, he means cut.

10/27/2008 1:34:46 PM

got my votes in today. got to change my address from another county and register all in one shot, whole process took maybe 10 minutes.

10/27/2008 1:52:12 PM

Obama's coming to Raleigh on Wednesday
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1270330.html

10/27/2008 1:55:18 PM

420, a parasite left untreated will eventually kill the host.

Here is some history on taxes in this country

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

10/27/2008 2:37:18 PM

wait, youre supposed to be a medical professional???



the human body is filled with millions of parasites.



[Edited on October 27, 2008 at 2:38 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2008 2:38:07 PM

Quote :

"a parasite left untreated will eventually kill the host."

that help?

10/27/2008 3:07:13 PM

not if it is biotrophic.

10/27/2008 3:16:39 PM

LOL, thanks nuts. classic

10/27/2008 3:40:54 PM

Quote :

"With capitalism someone creates a product/service to fit a need. If someone can do it better/cheaper then so be it. Society benefits in the long run. That is far different from VOTING to take money from one and give it directly to you. Society will not benefit long term from this system."

That's as idealistic as thinking the gov. can solve all your problems.

10/27/2008 3:44:50 PM

how so?

10/27/2008 3:47:56 PM

Obama Wins!!!!

Quote :

"SANTA FE, New Mexico (CNN) – For The New Mexico Sun News it is either a major scoop or “Dewey Beats Truman” déjà vu 60 years later. “Obama Wins!” is the headline of the edition on newsstands now, complete with “special collector’s edition” in red bold typeface. The Sun News is a bi-monthly newspaper and its Oct 26-Nov 8 issue had to hit the streets, and the newsstands, before the election. So the editors decided to make a leap of faith and declare Democrat Barack Obama the winner. In an article explaining their choice, the editors unabashedly wrote, “When it comes to calling the winner of a presidential election, everyone wants to be first. The New Mexico Sun News hereby claims that achievement.” In its tongue-in-cheek style, the article went on to note the newspaper has a goal of reaching one million readers with each edition, but prints just 10,000 copies of each of its issues. So, “each copy must be read by 100 different and distinct people. This places an enormous burden on our intrepid readers. However, it is a burden that we must insist you carry. So, please, read quickly, care for the physical condition of the paper and pass it on to your next chosen reader.” The liberal leaning alternative newspaper ended by imploring its readers to get out and vote, “even if we did spoil the ending for you.”"

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/27/obama-wins-newspaper-declares/

10/27/2008 3:57:05 PM

That's pretty stupid. Give the haggard GOP ticket something to talk about and flash around as some type of arrogance even if it's clear Obama's campaign had nothing to do with it.

10/27/2008 4:17:52 PM

Meanwhile at a Palin rally near you..

Quote :

" Transcript (Des Moines Iowa COUNTRY FIRST stop) Palin: Obama...Barack Obama has an ideological commitment to higher taxes. The lessons I believe we have taught our kids would start to erode. Those lessons about work ethic, hard work being rewarded and productivity being rewarded... Women yelling off camera in audience: And he's a nigger!!!!! Palin: And...and......lessons about, um, the virtues of freedom and independence while being generous and compassionate with others. Higher taxes, more government, misusing the power to tax leads to government moving into the role of some believing the government then has to take care of us. And government (boos from the audience) kinda moving into the role as the other half of our family making decisions for us. Now they do this in other countries where the people are not free. "

10/27/2008 4:35:12 PM

I'm glad that woman in the audience isn't running for President or Vice President

10/27/2008 4:36:52 PM

Well at least when the McCain campaign loses, they'll have done it with class and integrity.

10/27/2008 4:38:23 PM

Its really not fair to criticize a random crazy person at a rally. We all know there are plenty on both sides. Its kind of like saying the entire NC State student/alumni body was chanting things about Chris Paul's grandfather.

10/27/2008 4:40:19 PM

Quote :

"We all know there are plenty on both sides."

Name one instance where an Obama supporter did something like this.

10/27/2008 4:41:06 PM

Well a quick google search shows that Tavis Smiley (who is black) got death threats from Obama supporters, and this is when the democratic primaries were still going on

http://wizbangblue.com/2008/02/23/obama-supporters-issue-death-threats-against-critic.php

Seriously, how can you act like there isn't a lunatic fringe on both sides??

10/27/2008 4:43:08 PM

^ That blog is from February and it doesn't even mention McCain.

I'm not denying that there are fringe lunatics of the left supporting Obama. But there is a much larger, more ignorant, overtly hateful and racist segment of McCain supporters that have been saying things like this for weeks.

When it's one person, it's a lunatic. When it's your entire base of supporters, you're doing it wrong.

10/27/2008 4:46:29 PM