Tulsi can only make up for Warren if anything unthinkable happens to her.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 12:34 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 12:34:06 PM

^^^ the swings are probably real, the late drop outs and endorsements were coordinated to achieve this, they just needed the short term energy and momentum to get through today.

Warren staying in kills things, tough for Sanders to win now

Kinda funny though that Bloomberg spent hundreds of millions of dollars to end up playing spoiler to Biden and not Sanders, I wonder if he drops soon because of this

3/3/2020 12:57:26 PM

^Bloombergs primary motive is to stop Sanders, even if it means getting Trump reelected. I don't think he drops out because he's an insurance policy in case Biden croaks on live TV while telling a childhood story about how he used to tie a lemon to his belt, which was the style at the time.

If he drops out, he won't be able to use his massive amounts of money to negatively campaign against Sanders, and it wouldn't surprise me if he pairs up with Biden, quite honestly.

3/3/2020 1:09:12 PM

That's true. He acts like a Trump's ally sneaking into Democrats to weaken Sanders, lol.



[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 1:23 PM. Reason : ;]

3/3/2020 1:14:08 PM

I'm gonna full meltdown tonight.

Bernie's cali lead is down to 7
Bidens up 27 in nc, 20 in virginia
A tornado just hit the brooklyn of Nashville
The bloomberg help isn't happening. People are coalescing around Biden. The democrats will lose because they are basing electability on who can do well in the reddest states. If the primary is determined by who can carry South Carolina, the general election will also be determined that way.

I'll move to another country in June 2021 when my contracts are up.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 1:27 PM. Reason : sad times]

3/3/2020 1:23:26 PM

To be honest, Republicans have potential to rule the country foureight more years, when Ted Cruz runs again in 2024....

3/3/2020 1:31:27 PM

Quote :

"Bloombergs primary motive is to stop Sanders"

I could be wrong, but I don't see how him being in the race accomplishes that. I wouldn't think he's siphoning an appreciable amount of votes from Bernie. If anything he's hamstringing Biden (as of right now). If stopping Bernie was his actual endgame he would've been better off just throwing money at a candidate.

3/3/2020 1:37:03 PM

^^just shut up about ted cruz

3/3/2020 1:43:19 PM

shoot is talking too much in several threads..

3/3/2020 2:56:05 PM

Quote :

"Posts : 6938 (2.1 per day)"

It's a very low record.

3/3/2020 3:03:33 PM

Betting markets are now shifting to Biden: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/

The DNC establishment is now completely behind Biden and will do whatever is necessary to secure his nomination. I think they will succeed.

From there, you will hear a lot of "vote blue no matter who," and some portion of Bernie bros will bend the knee, but most will just lose interest. Joe Biden is an awful candidate and a prolific gaffe machine. He'll probably lose the general worse than Hillary did.

3/3/2020 3:12:16 PM

Quote :

"Obama has been increasingly criticized by the left wing of the party for a decade now."

I must've missed all those people that have real names and are elected publicly decrying him on TV.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 3:41 PM. Reason : /]

3/3/2020 3:39:51 PM

^
What? You were talking about Democratic voters.

^^
Republicans are mostly very enthusiastic about Trump. Biden doesn't stand a chance.

3/3/2020 3:45:43 PM

Maybe...and bear with me here...watch less TV? That'd probably open up your narrow Fox News worldview a little, but also likely solve your specific issue here.

3/3/2020 3:46:17 PM

I never watch Fox News. I stick to CNN mostly.

3/3/2020 3:46:54 PM

There's a "Democrats Abroad" delegation to the National Convention, they have more voice than a territory, but less than North Dakota in contrast.

Sanders won in 2016 with 68.8% to Clinton's 30.9%. He got 9 delegates to Clinton's 4. The only countries Clinton won were Dominican Republic, Singapore, and Nigeria (4 votes to 1).

Bonn, Germany results

Quote :

"Sanders 18 (51.4%) Warren 14 (40.0%) Biden 2 (5.7%) Gabbard 1 (2.9%)"

Cambridge & Oxford, UK results

Quote :

"Sanders 97 (53.0%) Warren 50 (27.3%) Biden 31 (16.9%) Bloomberg 3 (1.6%) Klobuchar 1 (0.5%) Yang 1 (0.5%)"

Bangkok, Thailand results

Quote :

"Sanders 48 (45.3%) Warren 34 (32.1%) Biden 19 (17.9%) Bloomberg 5 (4.7%)"

Quote :

"Eligibility: Voters must meet the following criteria to vote Be abroad and be a U.S. citizen Be a member of Democrats Abroad Be 18 as of November 3, 2020 Not have voted, nor plan to vote, in any other 2020 state presidential primary"

Always wonder why some people would do this. For example, the "abroad" people that voted in a virtual Iowa Caucus would be ineligible to vote in this for reasons of double voting as the rules above make clear. But since you have to vote on a state ballot in November in order to vote in the general election, people voting "Democrats Abroad" are saying they either have no desire to vote in the general election in November, or are choosing to be a Democrat Abroad by choice by voting in a state election come November but not in its primary, and I doubt they're taking the time to do the hassle of deregistering their voter registration in a state to vote Democrats Abroad, and then re-registering in the state once the primaries are over. Meanwhile by voting abroad and not in a state, you're choosing to have zero influence on downballot races (like Governor, Senator, Representative. etc.).

3/3/2020 4:11:51 PM

Quote :

" I could be wrong, but I don't see how him being in the race accomplishes that. I wouldn't think he's siphoning an appreciable amount of votes from Bernie. If anything he's hamstringing Biden (as of right now). If stopping Bernie was his actual endgame he would've been better off just throwing money at a candidate. "

Possibly. I can see that argument. My guess is he stays in for as long as he needs to in order to extract concessions from the Democratic machine. If he's a threat to Biden, he still has leverage to guarantee that a democratic presidency doesn't raise his taxes, which is all he wants. He doesn't actually want to win.

3/3/2020 4:18:21 PM

^^ as best as i can tell, they only do presidential primary and you're not restricted from voting in the general election. it looks like the exist solely to have a voice in the DNC convention for people abroad.

3/3/2020 4:23:59 PM

biden cant win. what a bunch of fucking idiots.

3/3/2020 4:46:04 PM

They aren't idiots because its not about winning. Its about blocking Bernie.

3/3/2020 5:06:00 PM

bernie cant win either but he had a better shot than biden

3/3/2020 5:10:11 PM

There is really no evidence to back that up. Nearly every national and state poll show Bernie at or above Trump. Will it be easy? No. But it’s very possible.

And whoever said up above that Biden has no chance to beat Trump is dead wrong too and just wishcasting.

3/3/2020 6:22:21 PM

538 live blog

Quote :

"Did you know that Democratic voters want a unicorn for president? For example, according to preliminary exit polls of North Carolina, 56 percent of voters said they want the next president to return to Obama’s policies, while only 27 percent said they want more liberal policies. But in the same poll, 55 percent said they want to replace all private health insurance with a government-run program, and 69 percent want to make tuition free at public colleges and universities."

And if you're interested about what the Democratic primary electorate thinks about coronavirus:

Quote :

"Micah, the exit polls actually asked voters about coronavirus. According to preliminary data from North Carolina, 12 percent said it was the most important factor in their vote; 42 percent said it was one of many important factors; 23 percent said it was a minor factor; and 19 percent said it was not a factor at all. In California, those numbers were 13 percent for most important factor, 38 percent for one of many important factors, 20 percent for minor factor and 21 percent for not a factor at all."

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 6:50 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 6:43:56 PM

^^
Trump has a very enthusiastic base. Biden doesn't, and won't. He's a dud. Hillary was a much better candidate.

He also has worse dementia than Trump

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 6:52 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 6:48:11 PM

^ How? Hillary Clinton had built up a base of visceral hatred toward her for 25 years from Democrats, Republicans, and independents. The only people that seem to have a visceral hatred for Biden are Sanders supporters.

3/3/2020 6:52:32 PM

She had a functioning brain for one. Watching Joe slur his way through the debates and town halls is going to be wildly discouraging

3/3/2020 6:55:21 PM

Quote :

"Scenes From The Campaign Trail In North Carolina Over the weekend, Biden and his team held an event in Raleigh, North Carolina, at St. Augustine’s, a historically black university where Biden told voters about his time spent as Obama’s vice president and pitched them on his ability to beat Trump. Perhaps the loudest reaction of the afternoon came when Rep. G. K. Butterfield told the crowd, “We’ve got to nominate a candidate who can win, not only the presidency, but win the state legislature, win the House, and yes, beat [Republican Sen.] Thom Tillis here in North Carolina.” Butterfield also made digs at Sanders and Bloomberg, saying, “We’re not going to beat Donald Trump by running on Republican values or socialist schemes. We’re going to win this election as Biden Democrats, as Obama Democrats, as Roy Cooper Democrats.” (Cooper, the state’s Democratic governor, won by 0.2 percentage points against the Republican incumbent in 2016.) Biden also stressed the importance of North Carolina in deciding the presidency, both in the general election and the nomination process. “Literally, here in North Carolina, you hold in your hands the power to determine the next democratic nominee. That’s not hyperbole, that’s a fact,” Biden said. “If North Carolina stands with us on Tuesday, there’ll be no stopping us from there to the nomination.”"

Butterfield is the black representative for the northeast North Carolina congressional district. I got drawn into his district in 2012 before I left Rocky Mount and North Carolina.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 7:31 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 7:30:02 PM

Biden doesnt have nearly as many field offices as Sanders, his geound game is much smaller. Hopefully thats just a result of his poor fundraising and he does a better job with that than Clinton dis if he gets the nomination.

(Also, dont pay attention to exit polls, people say nonsense and even lie about who they voted for. You can maybe look at broad trends, but dont spend too much time analyzing them)

3/3/2020 7:43:11 PM

Go crazy folks! Go crazy.

$3 billion to win the big prize. American Somoa.

3/3/2020 7:44:42 PM

Quote :

" How? Hillary Clinton had built up a base of visceral hatred toward her for 25 years from Democrats, Republicans, and independents. The only people that seem to have a visceral hatred for Biden are Sanders supporters"

Google "Burisma" the next time you need to fill some time on the pooper

3/3/2020 7:44:52 PM

Biden called for NC (no results released though until after 8pm)



[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 7:49 PM. Reason : Way to go Warren voters!]

3/3/2020 7:48:36 PM

Biden hasn't even been vetted yet. You guys are in for some real treats when he is.

Quote :

""Did you know that Democratic voters want a unicorn for president? For example, according to preliminary exit polls of North Carolina, 56 percent of voters said they want the next president to return to Obama’s policies, while only 27 percent said they want more liberal policies. But in the same poll, 55 percent said they want to replace all private health insurance with a government-run program, and 69 percent want to make tuition free at public colleges and universities.""

Voter ignorance is rampant thanks the the media. This is part of the design. If people voted for list of policies and were blind to names, Sanders would win in a landslide.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 7:51 PM. Reason : if you're too lazy to research who supports your policies, you deserve trump and thats what you get]

3/3/2020 7:48:36 PM

^^ he might be outside the margin with warren + sanders

Sanders doing well in early states panicked some voters i bet...

Going to be weird for me if Biden is the nominee. Obama was the first pres I was old enough to vote for, and I supported him in the primary.

3/3/2020 7:57:07 PM

I'd say he's been vetted and thats why his previous runs have failed (plagiarism, lying, saying something racist)

But yeah, it will be fun when Trump unironically attacks Biden for wanting to cut Social Security or for having a child who benefited from his political office or for touching people inappropriately.

Its gonna be wild

3/3/2020 7:59:13 PM

Bernie probably has no chance now. Even if he wins Super Tuesday, I can see Bloomberg dropping out and supporting Biden.

3/3/2020 8:02:59 PM

Quote :

"Way to go Warren voters!]"

Way to go bernie for failing to win them over.

Quote :

"A Quinnipiac poll from early February showed that 33 percent of Warren supporters said Sanders would be their second choice. That’s substantial, but about 7 percent of Warren voters said they’d pick Klobuchar as their second choice, 25 percent said they’d pick Buttigieg, and 8 percent said they’d go for Biden. So Sanders could get a third of Warren votes if she dropped out now, but, if Biden receives the bulk of the Buttigieg and Klobuchar votes, Biden could get 40 percent."

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:07 PM. Reason : E]

3/3/2020 8:05:12 PM

Quote :

" Breaking news: young people still don't vote. In NBC News exit poll, 13 percent of voters were between 18-29"

This is why Bernie is underperforming.

3/3/2020 8:06:15 PM

^^

I happily voted for Warren, just like I'd happily vote for Biden against Trump. I'd hold my nose and vote Bernie in the general if need be, but I think he's way too stubborn to actually get much accomplished.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:08 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 8:08:08 PM

The only thing I’m grateful for tonight is that Bloomberg has been summarily rejected.

3/3/2020 8:11:42 PM

Quote :

" "A Quinnipiac poll from early February showed that 33 percent of Warren supporters said Sanders would be their second choice. That’s substantial, but about 7 percent of Warren voters said they’d pick Klobuchar as their second choice, 25 percent said they’d pick Buttigieg, and 8 percent said they’d go for Biden. So Sanders could get a third of Warren votes if she dropped out now, but, if Biden receives the bulk of the Buttigieg and Klobuchar votes, Biden could get 40 percent." "

Pundit math is truly big brain

3/3/2020 8:12:25 PM

one of Bernie’s biggest bets was getting a big turnout from young voters and that doesn’t seem to be happening

that and black people overwhelmingly voting for Biden look to be his downfall

3/3/2020 8:12:41 PM

Young in the context of bernies aupport was like <55

3/3/2020 8:15:21 PM

Young people don't really understand socialism, let alone care enough about it to actually get off their asses and vote for it, and old people are terrified as hell about it. Makes perfect sense to me.

3/3/2020 8:15:53 PM

^^^^your math says it Warren voters fault that Biden is getting over 50% in some of those states.

And that somehow all of the Warren voters would next prefer Bernie

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:16 PM. Reason : E]

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:16 PM. Reason : And that quote is from a Bernie supporter]

3/3/2020 8:16:23 PM

The Warren supporters enrage me the most out of anyone. I mostly just feel sorry for the Biden supporters because they are misled and can't figure out whats good for them. The Warren supporters seem to know exactly what they are doing.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:18 PM. Reason : yikes]

3/3/2020 8:17:56 PM

Voting for the candidate they like the most. Your dumb ass loves that philosophy.

3/3/2020 8:19:16 PM

Why am i getting blamed for pundit math, the quote box means i didnt write it

3/3/2020 8:19:32 PM

Your silly ass "thanks Warren voters" like theyre responsible, show me that math. They could just as easily be eating into Biden's numbers instead of bernies.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:23 PM. Reason : Especially in NC and VA ]

3/3/2020 8:21:43 PM

Not what literally any poll has shown. And when a candidate drops out and endorses, usually even greater margins go to the endorsee. Warren can easily fuck Bernie out of winning large enough margins in Texas, California, and Massachusetts

Also I don't blame the voters, I blame the candidate. Always pointless to blame voters - I think they're morons, sure - but it's Warren's fault.

[Edited on March 3, 2020 at 8:25 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2020 8:25:07 PM

Quote :

"The Warren supporters seem to know exactly what they are doing."

Weird how "voting your conscious" in this case is akin to "BURN IT TO THE GROUND", which is exactly what you people did last time you didn't get your way. The difference here, and boy does it matter, is that we not only voted for the BEST candidate this time around, but we will even hold our noses and do what's right in the general. So go fuck yourself

3/3/2020 8:25:13 PM