so hrm, say fuck it and get it continued one more time, then find a lawyer? why couldn't this shit have happened in pitt county

or couldn't i get it reduce to 9 over and if I fuck up again use my PJC or hire a lawyer then to get it dropped or improper equipment?

[Edited on May 19, 2009 at 2:35 AM. Reason : .]

5/19/2009 2:30:24 AM

Friend of mine got a 21mph+ over in Johnston County on Hwy 70, and already had some kind of hit, so if this one goes through he may very well lose his license. He's an NC State student.

I already referred him to James Crouch and Lee...something, Jrb599 recommended him in this thread via nicklepickle. Are these guys only limited to Wake though? I have no idea about lawyers and all that stuff...

5/19/2009 2:33:28 AM

^ lee yes, we have attorneys we reffer to, though in other counties

5/19/2009 9:03:13 AM

Lee is awesome. I've used him. Twice actually. He is a very nice man and considering he used to be a prosecutor, he knows how to get the job done. I would recommend him. He represents in Jo. Co. only afaik



[Edited on May 19, 2009 at 9:11 AM. Reason : .]

5/19/2009 9:10:18 AM

^ i think you mean chad lee, and i dont think you keep up with the news very well

5/19/2009 9:59:21 AM

fwiw, motorcycle cops have been posted on 40 all this week, and will continue to do so. typically between exits 287 and 285.

5/19/2009 11:24:27 AM

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"hopefully he gets rid of it for you with something that doesnt give you any points rather then just minimizes, wake county doesnt have many ways of doing that."

yeah, it was reduced to a non-moving violation, not sure which though (improper equipment, parking?). he specifically said no points on my license or insurance.

5/19/2009 11:41:33 AM

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"fwiw, motorcycle cops have been posted on 40 all this week, and will continue to do so. typically between exits 287 and 285."

yea theres been one on wade ave right before the rbc centertaking radar morons jam on their brakes like he wouldnt know. he sits right after the bridge

5/19/2009 12:23:55 PM

johnston county has a crooked ass courthouse

all you need is a good lawyer

5/19/2009 12:25:22 PM

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"yea theres been one on wade ave right before the rbc centertaking radar morons jam on their brakes like he wouldnt know. he sits right after the bridge"

I have never understood why people are so averse to braking when they see a cop. I know one guy who got an 80 in a 55 a while back. He told me he saw the cop so he let off the gas and applied a little pressure with the e-brake to slow the car down. So basically, you choose to speed past him, knowing you're going to get a ticket, instead of braking and hoping he hasn't clocked you yet?

I slam on the brakes if I'm in a position to get clocked. I can't tell you how many times I've locked up the wheels in full view of a cop. They may know I was speeding, but all I care about is what the readout on the radar says. If I can shave off even 5 MPH before getting clocked I'll gladly do it and let the lawyer sort out the rest.

5/19/2009 12:59:22 PM

yeah i wasn't trying to deal with the bullshit. took about 5 minutes standing in line and the DA immediately reduced it without asking anything but my name.

Oh well, I'll try to behave for 3 years. I imagine a passport or valentine will be my next frivolous purchase.

5/20/2009 1:01:06 AM

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"I really hate when I'm rolling down the road and people will tag along, even when I switch lanes or pass."

Why is this a problem? When I used to have a car where the cruise control didn't work, I would do this all the time--find a car going a speed I liked and just follow it. Made it so I didn't have to keep one eye on the speedometer all the damn time.

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"The way I read it, after conviction of that particular charge (speeding 10mph or less over...)-in NC at least-any moving violation conviction in the next 3 years will count for both and jack up your insurance. That means after this conviction, if a cop on a bad day pulls you for 1mph over the limit or forgetting a seatbelt and you get convicted, you pay for both insurance-wise a min of 60% more than your normal rate. That true, nicklepickle? It's one of the special cases in the driving insurance code."

I got a ticket reduced to 9 over in December '05, then another, also reduced to 9 over, 1/07. My insurance did go up (3 points raises your rates, each of those incidents were 2 points) but it did not go up by 60%, probably more like 25%.

5/20/2009 1:44:21 AM

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"johnston county has a crooked ass courthouse"

and attorneys like CHAD LEE

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4844413/


Six charged with fixing Johnston DWI cases


Posted: Mar. 30, 2009
Updated: Apr. 1, 2009

Smithfield, N.C. — A Johnston County grand jury on Monday indicted a former prosecutor, a former court clerk and four defense lawyers on charges that they fixed drunken-driving cases.

Former Assistant District Attorney Cyndi Jaeger, former assistant court clerk Portia Snead and defense attorneys Chadwick Lee, Jonathan Lee Hatch, Jack McLamb and Vann Sauls were indicted in the case.

Jaeger was charged with three counts of felony obstruction of justice, and she could face 81 misdemeanor counts of failing to perform her duty of office. A grand jury is expected to discuss those possible charges on May 4.

Snead was charged with six counts of altering official case records, felony obstruction of justice and illegally accessing a government computer.

Lee was charged with 65 counts of altering official case records, felony obstruction of justice and conspiracy; Hatch was charged with 30 counts of altering official case records and felony obstruction of justice; McLamb was charged with six counts of altering official case records and felony obstruction of justice; and Sauls was charged with 11 counts of altering official case records, felony obstruction of justice and conspiracy.

Johnston County District Attorney Susan Doyle last year asked the State Bureau of Investigation to look into the high rate of dismissed drunken-driving cases in the county. A WRAL investigation found that 46 percent of the driving while impaired charges filed in Johnston County in 2006 were dismissed, compared with 21 percent statewide and 20 percent in neighboring Wake County.

Doyle said a tracking system installed in October 2007 found several discrepancies in cases that were scheduled for trial but had been dismissed months earlier.

Sources said Jaeger gave a stack of signed dismissal forms to at least one defense attorney, and the forms continued to be used in cases after she left the Johnston County prosecutor's office in September 2007. She later worked as an assistant district attorney in Randolph County, but she left that position last Wednesday.

"Further inquiry revealed that the former assistant district attorney dismissed an alarming number of driving while impaired cases by utilizing an inappropriate dismissal form and by not stating the reasons for the dismissal orally in open court as required by law," Doyle said in a statement.

Jaeger's attorney, David Freedman, said she had "no criminal intent" in the case.

"She regrets the turn of events," Freedman said. "She has the utmost respect for the position of prosecutor."

The Attorney General's Office will handle the prosecution of the cases.

"The integrity of our criminal justice system depends on the integrity of the people who serve as officers of the court," Attorney General Roy Cooper said in a statement. "The grand jury has issued indictments based on the evidence presented by our investigators and prosecutors, and we will pursue these criminal corruption charges.”

Snead, who left the clerk of court's office last Wednesday, was given a $10,000 secured bond, while the others indicted were given $25,000 secured bonds.

"This is a sad situation for all involved," said Hart Miles, an attorney representing McLamb.

Miles said McLamb has "cooperated fully" with the SBI investigation and noted that McLamb wasn't involved with any DWI cases, only two speeding tickets and a driving with a revoked license case.

All of the defendants were expected to surrender to authorities on Tuesday.

5/20/2009 9:11:23 AM

Alright, so I got clocked at 70 in a 55 when traveling with traffic after exit 289 in that 55 speed trap zone. I got pulled once before 3 years ago and had a 68/55 reduced to 9 over (apparently I have a "don't give this guy warnings" sticker on my car).

I could get Crouch I suppose, but how much would that cost? How easy would it be to get this dropped?

5/25/2009 11:32:01 AM

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""I really hate when I'm rolling down the road and people will tag along, even when I switch lanes or pass.""

I don't mind cars following me like this so as long as they are not close to me. If I feel a car is following me to closely, I'll take action to get them off me.

5/25/2009 12:04:04 PM

55 in a 35 dropped to 44 in a 35. Already used a PJC back in 2007. What should I do?

6/16/2009 12:58:55 AM

^just pay the fine and move on.

6/16/2009 2:17:06 AM

Some of you guys scare me.

6/18/2009 9:32:04 PM

^^ worst advice ever, automatic insurance increase.

6/20/2009 7:19:58 AM

^with a 9 over ticket?

6/20/2009 8:47:50 AM

Yes, you know what a PJC is, correct?

6/20/2009 9:35:33 AM

Alright, was doing 64 in a 40, I'm an idiot, wasn't paying attention to the speedometer. What should I do? Will my license get revoked? What kind of fines am I looking at? Recommendations for a good lawyer? I need help, this sucks.

6/21/2009 11:45:29 AM

^^^ yes an attorney should be able to get that shit dismissed. ie no license points

6/21/2009 11:49:24 AM

everyone and their mom knows you pay for a lawyer for shit like that. its cheaper.

6/21/2009 11:53:14 AM

^^^ try reading this thread

6/21/2009 1:01:15 PM

Need a lawyer recommendation for Davidson county. Got pulled for 85 in a 70. Have a couple 9 overs on my record and the lawyer used a PFJ/PJC for the last one (I think they should have been able to get it reduced, oh well)

7/17/2009 11:54:25 AM

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"I slam on the brakes if I'm in a position to get clocked. I can't tell you how many times I've locked up the wheels in full view of a cop. They may know I was speeding, but all I care about is what the readout on the radar says. If I can shave off even 5 MPH before getting clocked I'll gladly do it and let the lawyer sort out the rest."

wow do you not realize it doesnt matter if they even get you on radar, a cop is trained to approximate your speed. when you jam the breaks you bring attention to your self and show them you know you're speeding. when you acknowledge you're speeding the cop will want to give you a ticket even more

7/19/2009 9:45:29 PM

Saw someone getting a ticket on wade this morning right before the split

dumbasses ... i was hoping to see a post about it in this thread

7/20/2009 9:17:42 AM

^ think i saw the same person i was going the opposite direction and everyone was jamming on their brakes

7/20/2009 12:01:44 PM

I got on not too long ago for doing 35 in a 45. However as the cop was coming to pull me over, there was a person in the right lane (I was in the left lane) passing me. Yet I'm the one who gets pulled over for speeding? Why is this and can I use this to get out of my ticket? Also, I believe my speedometer is not truly accurate, is this a good defense?

7/20/2009 12:14:35 PM

not in wake county (speedometer)

7/20/2009 12:16:28 PM

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"can I use this to get out of my ticket?"

No. How does him doing something illegal make up for the fact you were doing something illegal?

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"Also, I believe my speedometer is not truly accurate, is this a good defense?"

You'd have to get it tested and show proof.

7/20/2009 12:21:35 PM

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"I got on not too long ago for doing 35 in a 45."

7/20/2009 12:24:28 PM

everyones being good and not speeding?

8/17/2009 11:23:39 PM

not even gonna read, if you need one of the top lawyers in raleigh, pm me. i have 3 and they all kick ass and are pretty reasonably cheap

if one is out of town or sick im sure the other will be just as good. i trust them all the same and have referred tons of happy twwers to them

(not to mention ive never been to prison)

8/17/2009 11:37:29 PM

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"wow do you not realize it doesnt matter if they even get you on radar, a cop is trained to approximate your speed. when you jam the breaks you bring attention to your self and show them you know you're speeding. when you acknowledge you're speeding the cop will want to give you a ticket even more"

lol...Don't you work for a lawyer's office? If so then you should know that the cop's approximation is just about worthless in court without radar/VASCAR to back it up. Furthermore, if they're trained to approximate speed they'll be able to do it just fine whether I slam on the brakes or not. You ever seen someone get out of a ticket because they didn't "acknowledge" they were speeding? Didn't think so.

They know I'm speeding...I know I'm speeding...No need to play mind games. If I ever get a ticket for a speed higher than what's on the radar I'll eat my words. Until then, that number on the radar is about all I care about.

p.s., they were working Wade Ave. around the arena this morning. HP Motorcycle, HP Tahoe, and I think an HP Charger.

[Edited on August 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM. Reason : l]

8/18/2009 11:20:56 AM

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"everyones being good and not speeding?"

i got one in June, but i don't think i posted in this thread. I made a new one about lawyers in Whiteville.

My court date is tomorrow. Scott Dorman is taking care of it.

8/18/2009 11:26:19 AM

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"lol...Don't you work for a lawyer's office? If so then you should know that the cop's approximation is just about worthless in court "

yes which is why i know its not worthless... but go ahead and get one where you were paced or whatever in wake co and tell the magistrate or d.a. its wortheless and should be dropped

8/20/2009 9:07:12 AM

I've had similar experiences where I was speeding by a cop, slammed on break and didn't get pulled over. One cop even pulled a u turn and followed me all the way onto the interstate, but no ticket.

8/20/2009 10:30:39 AM

Got a ticket going 20 over entering a school zone (literally 75 yards long) in Louisiana. I was driving a state vehicle and the guy just dicked me over on it. What to do? And will the ticket affect my insurance that is in NC?

9/30/2009 2:11:21 PM

dmv in nc can revoke your license here if you pay that off^

10/1/2009 11:06:46 AM

fuck, virginia.

10/4/2009 10:39:34 PM

Girlfriend on way back from mountains got a ticket for 75 mph in a 60. We had so many false alarms on my radar I think she ignored the warning,
beyond a light brake tap, even when the Ka band went off.

Is it worth travelling back to Lumberton (1 hour drive) from Wilmington to get this ticket reduced to 9-over??

10/6/2009 8:46:26 AM

^ Yes.

I may be wrong, but I've been told if it's not reduced to 9 over NC will suspend your license (because 15+ is reckless driving).

[Edited on October 12, 2009 at 8:56 PM. Reason : .]

10/12/2009 8:52:19 PM

They can, but usually don't. It depends on your driving record.
My fiance's brother is on his 6th suspension.

10/12/2009 10:37:36 PM

just got a ticket for an 80 in a 65 on I-40 by exit 284. planning on showing up and trying to get it reduced to 9 over.

i had a stop sign infraction 8 years ago and used a pjc on that, but other than that haven't had anything else in 10+ years.

i've read conflicting things about 9 over tickets. can they affect your insurance if you get multiple tickets in a certain time frame(if so - what is said time frame)? is it dependent on who your insurer is?

10/21/2009 7:21:31 AM

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"2 Points Illegal passing Speeding more than 10 mph over the limit, if total speed was in excess of 55 mph but less than 76 mph. Speeding 10 miles or less in excess of limit in speed zone of 55 or greater* Following too closely. Driving on the wrong side of the road. Each at-fault accident that results in total damage to all property which is in excess of $1 ,800.00 but less than $ 3000.00 03-04-02005 1 Point Speeding 10 mph or less in excess of a speed limit of less than 55 mph* Any other moving violation. Each at-fault accident that results in total damage of $ 1,800.00 or less* 03-04-2005 *Points are not assigned for these violations unless the same driver has been convicted of at least one other moving violation during the experience period (the last three years). "

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"Insurance Surcharge Table One - 25% Two - 45% Three - 65% Four - 90% Five - 120% Six - 150% Seven - 180% Eight - 220% Nine - 260% Ten - 300% Eleven - 350% Twelve - 400%"

http://ncsu.edu/student_affairs/legal_services/faqs/traffic-traffic-insurance.php

[Edited on October 21, 2009 at 7:48 AM. Reason : ]

10/21/2009 7:47:48 AM

^hmm...that table kinda goes against what i've always heard and what people have said in this thread about tickets for 9 over.

[Edited on October 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM. Reason : ]

10/22/2009 7:37:04 PM

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"i've read conflicting things about 9 over tickets. can they affect your insurance if you get multiple tickets in a certain time frame(if so - what is said time frame)? is it dependent on who your insurer is?"

this is what we say in our letters :
"North Carolina General Statute 58-36-75 prohibits your insurance company from assessing you any points or surcharges if you are convicted of speeding 10mph or less over the posted speed limit, and you have not been convicted of any moving violations within the three year period prior to renewal of your insurance policy."

10/23/2009 10:37:24 AM

I just received a well-deserved ticket in Winston-Salem. I was going about 85 in a 65 on B-40, but I was very polite with the officer and ended up with a ticket for 74 in a 65, and a citation for failing to notify the DMV of a change of address.

1. I have (had) a clean record, so I'm assuming I should just mail in the $145 for the 9 over?

2. The officer said that I could bring my updated license to the court date and get the DL thing waived. Is there an easier way to do this? Taking a day off to show someone my license seems like a waste. Can I call the DA or something?

10/23/2009 1:27:12 PM