75CousinsFavorspending: Wall
3/9/2009 7:42:32 PM
3/9/2009 7:45:07 PM
^It has everything to do with him missing time on the AAU circuit due to a back injury and moving from NC to GA and missing time in HS as well.He's growing, and he's about 6'1" right now, which is perfect for a PG. Telep loves him, the GA HS people love him, and a lot of people were getting involved right before he committed to us. He has the potential to grow another couple inches as well (he has giant feet)He might be the best player in GA next year, which says a lot. A lot of people think he's a top 10 player for his class (his HS coach might just being talking him up, but he's lightyears ahead of a guy going to GT next year)
3/9/2009 8:01:18 PM
This whole recruiting process has me kinda bummed. I mean, memphis has officially vaulted into the upper shelf of my most hated teams. To my knowledge they have really only nabbed cousins from us but it feels like so much more, and probably will be with wall. I don't see how we will be anything but bottom dwellers once again in the acc next year without another decent big man in the '09 class.Even if we somehow land wall I still see us as a middle of the pack acc team next year.
3/9/2009 8:07:30 PM
Wall would instantly make us a tourney team IMO. Without him we struggle for the NIT. He's that good...I've said it before but we're talking about a guy who, in my opinion, would be the #1 pick THIS YEAR in the draft if there was no age limit...He would be the biggest get at State since DT...[Edited on March 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM. Reason : good info to know on harrow..]
3/9/2009 8:09:21 PM
3/9/2009 8:11:15 PM
we've been involved with 4 similar recruits with memphis this year.brown, who signed with usfavors, who signed with gtcousins, who signed with themand wall
3/9/2009 8:33:54 PM
^^ they'll all go to Memphis lol
3/9/2009 8:47:17 PM
can somebody with premium scout.com access post this story about john wall "claiming a leader" and mentioning a possible announcement date?http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/845767.html
3/9/2009 10:07:48 PM
paging gunzz
3/9/2009 10:10:37 PM
Considering it came after his visit to Baylor, and after Cousins went to Memphis, I'd say State's chances are slimmmmmmmmmm
3/9/2009 10:10:50 PM
3/9/2009 10:11:30 PM
FYI: people have gotten in trouble before for posting premium articles from PP
3/9/2009 10:18:51 PM
i'm not certain, but i thought that was because some PP members saw the articles posted here and complained, whereas I have no prior knowledge of anyone from scout.com ever griping about TWWif he goes to memphis i'll make the best out of it though...i'll put a whole bunch of money down in vegas on memphis winning it all next year[Edited on March 10, 2009 at 12:25 AM. Reason : .]
3/10/2009 12:25:10 AM
CousinsFavorsWall
3/10/2009 12:35:06 AM
it's memphis and nothing new. maybe 10% chance we land him
3/10/2009 12:37:48 AM
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3/10/2009 8:56:22 AM
^ I feel the same way, sad but true.
3/10/2009 9:58:27 AM
what i don't get is that memphis is in such a crap conference, you're gonna look good against chumps... if you come to the ACC and look good in all of your games you're gonna look spectacular....here's to Memphis getting rolled this year!
3/10/2009 12:33:09 PM
3/10/2009 12:39:27 PM
Memphis now has 5 recruits signed. Just how many are they planning on bringing in?
3/10/2009 12:45:07 PM
Assuming Evans leaves, they should have five scholarships to give.[Edited on March 10, 2009 at 12:54 PM. Reason : Maybe 6, Scout.com's eligibity tracker isn't showing Memphis for 2008-09]
3/10/2009 12:49:51 PM
As far as Memphis:If 1/4 your team is graduating and another 1/4 going to the NBA every year, then you can probably get away with offering that many scholarships.
3/10/2009 12:51:37 PM
anyone know anything about this Vincent Williams guy that was just posted on PP?
3/10/2009 12:52:24 PM
^Javi Gonzalez Part Deux?
3/10/2009 1:05:44 PM
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3/10/2009 1:12:11 PM
Great photoshopAlmost looks real
3/10/2009 1:24:54 PM
hahahahooray for mspaint
3/10/2009 1:26:11 PM
Memphis is gonna be nasty next year... might go undefeated
3/10/2009 1:31:20 PM
Undefeated? Yeah, and Carolina was going to go undefeated this year too.Maybe in the regular season....Let's keep in mind that these are freshmen....and how rare it is for a team to actually go undefeated. It's been 33 years since there has been an undefeated team, and with the parity in college athletics today, it's highly, highly unlikely that it will happen again ever IMO. Sucks to hear about Cousins, but at least we were in the running for him. In the previous decade we wouldn't be in the running for these kids that we're missing out on now.
3/10/2009 2:02:14 PM
^disagree slightlywhat is the difference in not being in the running for elite kids but being in the running and not getting them? I don't see a difference. Maybe it gives us a little more credibility on the recruiting trail, being involved with these kids, but if we aren't getting any of them then what difference does it make?we aren't one of these major powers. We have to be smarter, scout better, and recruit harder to get the kids we want. The strategy of being involved with all these top guys works great for the schools that get their share (Memphis, UNC, Duke, UCLA, etc) but for us it doesn't work as well. If we spend all our time on these great guys and then get none, I worry our recruitment of some of the better second tier guys that we actually have a great shot at getting goes way down. Recruit one star, maybe two (if one is close to home), and then go get the second tier guys and find some sleepers.[Edited on March 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]
3/10/2009 2:07:41 PM
Lowe can recruit. He got a 5* McDonald's All-American and didn't have to hire his coach to get him either. He should have gotten another McD's AA in Brown. Brown was a 5* early on and probably should still be one. He got passed over for some guys that are rated lower than him.Seriously though how are the Wear twins McD's AAs and they are only 9 and 10 spots above Howell on Scout's Top 100, and are 17 and 18 spots behind him on Rivals Top 150? And don't tell me that it's just b/c they went to UNC. That may be so, but I want something besides that.
3/10/2009 2:33:40 PM
well, you can't win them alllook at it this way--would you have been pleased with our class if we never even started to recruit these 5*s? I think a lot of the negative reaction towards recruiting is because we missed these guys, but since they are one and done, its not like the program is hurt. Our chances of making the tournament next year, yeah, but long term this isn't a big deal.personally, I'm fucking pissed. I was really banking on getting at least one of these guys. If we had a stronger season, maybe things would have been different. Sid will keep getting in with these types of guys...hopefully we'll have some more incentive to attract them in the next few years.but yeah, this is rough.
3/10/2009 2:51:23 PM
So if we assume no Wall, and Costner stays, what's our starting 5/rotation next year? I live abroad, so i don't get to watch the team but i follow it...i don't really have an idea of the new guys.Starters: JaviLo BrownCJ WilliamsCostnerTracy SmithBench:MaysHowellWoodThomasHornerDegandFerguson?From what I've read and seen from Lo Brown, it looks like he has to start from Day 1. That bench doesn't look too bad, at least compared to the last few seasons...really young, but more talent. Hopefully Howell and Wood with give some type of impact, and Mays will keep improving. We look like we'll be more athletic, with more experience. I think we'll improve one 10th in the conference, maybe have a shot at the tourney, we'll have to see how they play together first.But...if we keep Sid around, and bring in our 2010 class that we have now, our roster will look like this:JaviTracy SmithMays CJ WilliamsJohnny ThomasLo BrownRichard HowellScott WoodCJ LeslieRyan HarrowThat is a significant upgrade in talent...and they're all Sid's players. Herb's players were not aggressive, they were afraid to drive and shoot. These guys are not, and they're more athletic. A lot of people claimed Favors, Wall and Cousin's were 1-and-dones, so they'd only hurt the program...just like JJ. Now they're crying and bitching, you can't have your cake and eat it too...shut the fuck up from now on. That negativity will only keep these guys away...I'm not blaming you, but that's being a shitty fan, and if you're a shitty fan, you're a faggot.
3/10/2009 3:17:20 PM
3/10/2009 3:37:23 PM
Lets try something new....anybody want to stop talking about what we could have, and talk about what we will have?
3/10/2009 3:52:29 PM
3/10/2009 3:55:56 PM
3/10/2009 3:58:35 PM
Where the fuck is Costner going?
3/10/2009 4:06:40 PM
3/10/2009 4:16:12 PM
"Well at least we were in the running..."Fuck that. And that's really all that needs to be said about that.
3/10/2009 4:24:00 PM
^
3/10/2009 4:25:44 PM
3/10/2009 4:31:29 PM
lol, so we're not getting any of these guys? There goes the "keep Sid because he can recruit" argument. Reminds a lot of how we ended up with Sid in the first. Swing and miss with a lot of big names and ended up with nothing.
3/10/2009 4:34:43 PM
^He has still pulled a pretty good class, you guys are acting like we are bringing in nothing.
3/10/2009 4:38:37 PM
That's what I was gonna say. We've got a class ranked in the top 20 already, and we are/were in it for three of the best guys out there. Coming off a season where we stunk.
3/10/2009 4:40:36 PM
3/10/2009 4:44:57 PM
3/10/2009 4:46:41 PM
I'm fine with the class, and I'm not Sid can't recruit.I'm just saying there's nothing positive you can pull from not landing top guys.
3/10/2009 4:53:00 PM
3/10/2009 4:53:44 PM