Counterpoint: yes

He's a perfectly fine role player who stands in the corner to space the floor, but he's not some generational talent. Not even the best player from his draft class on his own team.

5/11/2025 6:02:58 PM

nobody ever claimed he’s a generational talent

also, Trae Young exists

as does LaMelo Ball

[Edited on May 11, 2025 at 6:05 PM. Reason : .]

5/11/2025 6:05:15 PM

I would take both of those guys over chet.

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"nobody ever claimed he’s a generational talent"

Have you ever been on the internet? Because that has been a narrative since he was on college.

5/11/2025 6:12:24 PM

presumed generational talents don’t get drafted #2 overall

that’s an extremely high bar that only 1 or 2 players every 6-7 years get labeled

5/11/2025 6:15:15 PM

You also don't draft role players who are like 4th option on offense with the #2 overall pick

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"presumed generational talents don’t get drafted #2 overall"

Kevin Durant says hi

5/11/2025 6:27:43 PM

he wasn’t presumed to be a generational talent going into the draft. he turned into one.

there’s been like 3 players in the last 20+ years who were presumed generational talents when they were drafted

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" You also don't draft role players who are like 4th option on offense with the #2 overall pick"

so now you don’t factor in defense? you’ve changed so much in the last couple of days

[Edited on May 11, 2025 at 7:12 PM. Reason : .]

5/11/2025 7:10:04 PM

Durant was the first freshman to ever be NPOY. He wasn't some developmental prospect.

And yeah defense is important. But Holmgren isn't some all world defender. Especially when he isn't primarily playing center and acting as a rim protector (which is he pretty good at.) As evidenced by his 0 block 0 steal performance today (to go along with his 8 points on 4-10 shooting and no FT attempts) playing mostly as the 4. I mean we know why he's not playing the 5, because Jokic would murderize him, but still it makes him a much less impactful player because he's not doing anything special on D as a 4.

I just remember last year some people thought he should be ROY over Wemby and that is just preposterous to me. There's no way a sane person could actually watch both of them play and think they're anywhere near each other in terms of talent.

5/11/2025 7:56:59 PM

love a one game sample size

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" Durant was the first freshman to ever be NPOY. He wasn't some developmental prospect."

nobody is claiming he was a developmental prospect

5/11/2025 8:18:36 PM

I think either both should have been ejected or none ejected

5/11/2025 8:34:51 PM

Chet already has 13 stocks this series, clearly he is the most overrated defender in the league

5/11/2025 10:54:25 PM

#Stocks

5/12/2025 10:29:32 AM

other than Game 1, the combo of Chet and Hartenstein have actually done a really good job of defending Jokic

5/12/2025 12:59:27 PM

Chet rarely guards Jokic

In other news, the draft lottery is still rigged as fuck

5/12/2025 7:41:28 PM

it's always rigged unless your team gets lucky

5/12/2025 7:43:36 PM

Teams that never get lucky: Charlotte. Teams that always get lucky: large markets, teams with generational talents from their immediate area.

Dallas gets the #1 pick to help placate an incredibly pissed off fan base in the 4th largest tv market in the US. It would be hilarious if they don't draft Cooper Flagg

5/12/2025 7:55:35 PM

It would be tragic if muh cavs don't draft Coop!

5/12/2025 9:11:44 PM

So knicks Pacers, and Timberwolves OKC? I'm cool with that

5/12/2025 10:08:21 PM

^just how the rigged NBA wanted it! Lakers vs Celtics Finals be damned.

5/13/2025 2:32:38 PM

Is 82 games too much? I say no.

5/13/2025 11:19:51 PM

I fucking love watching the Nuggets when they’re at their best

don’t think they can keep up this pace, though

5/13/2025 11:21:11 PM

they couldn’t keep up that pace

everyone not named Jokic ran out of gas

[Edited on May 14, 2025 at 12:09 AM. Reason : .]

5/14/2025 12:05:16 AM

If only someone besides Jokic/Murray had shown up

5/14/2025 12:09:27 AM

Dort was the anti-Russ

Aaron Gordon showed up


[Edited on May 14, 2025 at 12:17 AM. Reason : .]

5/14/2025 12:13:41 AM

They never should have let KCP go

5/14/2025 12:20:30 AM

Chet with a very respectable 14 and 9 tonight

5/14/2025 12:21:06 AM

How many stocks did Chet have last night? It's the merits that don't show up in the box score that make him a millennial talent.

5/14/2025 8:52:53 AM

Kcp shot 26% in the playoffs this year.

5/14/2025 9:36:20 AM

Steals + Blocks show up in the box score

5/14/2025 9:46:40 AM

5/14/2025 10:40:30 AM

Lets go OKC!

5/15/2025 10:43:53 PM

My prediction is Wolves & Knicks will make to the finals. And Knicks will get the championship once again after 50 yrs.

5/16/2025 10:41:59 AM

shoot sighting!!!

5/16/2025 10:49:18 AM

Nice to see you!

5/16/2025 11:05:22 AM

Is SGA british? He kinda talks like lennox lewis or something

5/16/2025 1:45:40 PM

He's Canadian eh

5/16/2025 2:07:02 PM

Knicks will probably close the series tonight. Good night Cs!

5/16/2025 4:45:43 PM

What have we learned lately?

1. The Celtics can win without Tatum. Team USA can win without Tatum.
2. The Warriors can't win without Curry. Team USA can't win dominate without Curry.

5/16/2025 10:04:35 PM

Poor Zingis

5/16/2025 10:36:03 PM

5/16/2025 10:36:39 PM

Man first kansas city chiefs, now the celtics...

Not a good year for repeat champs

5/16/2025 11:21:38 PM

^^

5/17/2025 9:58:56 AM

^^^^^
Tatum was never the first option on team USA. He usually stayed on the bench

[Edited on May 17, 2025 at 5:44 PM. Reason : 5*^]

5/17/2025 5:43:28 PM

being mean to muh celts

5/18/2025 12:13:17 AM

Who do you guys get today? I bet on nuggets. Okcs are still too young to win

5/18/2025 7:45:32 AM

Highly doubtful that Aaron Gordon plays, so sadly i will have to say the imagine Dragons Thunder

5/18/2025 2:06:35 PM

oh shit Gordon playing through a grade 2 hamstring strain. IT'S ON NOW.


LOL at Chet playing "defense" one on one versus Jokic. Basically as effective as me playing defense one on one vs Jokic. In conclusion, i am just as talented as Chet Holmgren.

5/18/2025 3:48:50 PM

Amazed that OKC isn't attacking a clearly hobbled Aaron Gordon every offensive possession

5/18/2025 3:54:41 PM

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"Amazed that OKC isn't attacking a clearly hobbled Aaron Gordon every offensive possession "

Right. He's playing now. He doesn't want to miss the biggest moment.

[Edited on May 18, 2025 at 4:11 PM. Reason : add quote]

5/18/2025 4:09:50 PM

Lets go OKC!

5/18/2025 4:12:40 PM

I like how OKC plays the "be overly physical on defense but refs won't call fouls because we're just scrappy" defense. Good to see that it's just as effective in the NBA as it is in college.

5/18/2025 4:46:16 PM