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thegoodlife3
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"Police arrest man 62 times for going to work:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/02/This-american-life-cops-see-it-differently/385874/"


curious to know where you saw that shared from

[Edited on June 20, 2020 at 5:37 PM. Reason : .]

6/20/2020 5:36:31 PM

Money_Jones
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Curious why you’re curious

6/20/2020 7:39:13 PM

thegoodlife3
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because it’s a 5 year old article

6/20/2020 8:22:46 PM

Money_Jones
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Yeah, I did notice that, and almost included that in my post, didn’t know if that’s all it was though

[Edited on June 20, 2020 at 8:29 PM. Reason : $$$]

6/20/2020 8:27:37 PM

thegoodlife3
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there’s a certain segment who are just now finding religion when it comes to racism

6/20/2020 8:33:20 PM

Money_Jones
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I hadn’t actually taken note of who posted the link, now that you said that and I went back to see, the questions make more sense

6/20/2020 9:01:53 PM

rjrumfel
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Even though it's 5 years old, how is it not still relevant? Did anybody here post it 5 years ago?

If you must know, a friend of mine shared it on FB. I found it relevant. And no, I'm not going through some awakening.

Would it make you feel better if I just posted articles from Fox news? Jesus Christ.

6/20/2020 10:40:45 PM

thegoodlife3
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there’s a long, proud history of posting [old] on the internet when something old is posted

longer than the Confederacy, even

there has been so much written on the subject in the last 2 months that it’s just a bit off putting to see a 5 year old piece as evidence of something that anyone who has been paying attention already knows and has always known

you’re also someone who complained multiple times over Obama’s comments on the murder of Trayvon Martin. that, combined with posting something that (relatively) old just seemed a bit off.

[Edited on June 20, 2020 at 11:02 PM. Reason : definitely seems like at least a tiny bit of an awakening ]

6/20/2020 11:00:09 PM

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let him have his awakening then, don't discourage him

6/20/2020 11:15:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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anyone deserves to be called out even more if they get discouraged

there aren’t two sides to this

[Edited on June 20, 2020 at 11:42 PM. Reason : .]

6/20/2020 11:28:30 PM

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not everyone realizes everything at the same time or responds to the same stimuli equally. i'd rather people catch up over time than them give up because they're not getting on board fast enough. call him out on a 5 year article, don't call him out on something that's influencing positive change.

6/21/2020 12:21:13 AM

utowncha
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you arent woke unless TGL says so

you also cant enjoy the shit music he likes without his permission*

6/22/2020 8:15:03 AM

rjrumfel
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^Yes sir.

I'm just glad he's able to sleep soundly at night from atop his better-than-everybody perch on which he sits.

I have a very liberal friend who shares an article that I've not seen before. I read it. I share it. Honestly I didn't see the publication date on that Atlantic article. I just thought it was pertinent to this subject, and didn't see where it had been posted before.

I humbly bow before thee, TGL.

6/22/2020 8:29:14 AM

rwoody
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It's a good article. You should listen to 3rd season of serial

6/22/2020 8:44:26 AM

TreeTwista10
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muh Heels

6/22/2020 10:09:53 PM

BanjoMan
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wtf is going on in that pic?

6/22/2020 11:18:42 PM

TreeTwista10
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the Asheville Police officer on the bicycle apparently didn't notice the rifle that the counter-protester was carrying

6/22/2020 11:22:31 PM

HaLo
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The definition of white privilege

6/22/2020 11:35:05 PM

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https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/national/2020/06/23/police-union-says-its-been-scapegoated-after-floyd-death/

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"Kroll acknowledged that widely seen cellphone video of Floyd’s death is “horrific,” but that the union was left “blindsided” by being denied the right to review officer body camera video.

“Right now we cannot make an informed decision regarding the other officers that do not appear on camera,” he said."


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"Anna Hedberg, another union director, told “CBS This Morning” that before Floyd’s death the union had been having “great conversations” with city leaders and Arradondo. She said it’s “dumbfounding to me that one incident, we become the scapegoat to having a bad officer.”"

6/23/2020 2:30:31 PM

rwoody
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The author of the Miami Herald story on Earl Brown from SEVEN years ago just reposted it. Some vindication for rjr that others feel it's worthy of revisiting.
https://twitter.com/jkbjournalist/status/1275469255442665472?s=19

6/23/2020 3:04:45 PM

thegoodlife3
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to be fair and open, I’m glad his eyes are opening

6/23/2020 3:13:00 PM

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"President of Chicago police union indicates he’d use chokeholds even if the city bans them: “I’m not going to give up my life because of some stupid department policy ...” from ?@JeremyGorner? and ?@MidnoirCowboy? reporting https://t.co/BL8n8t97pm"

6/24/2020 6:52:31 AM

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I bet eleusis knows all the details of this conspiracy theory - The Daily Beast: GOP House Candidate Insists George Floyd Killing Was Staged.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-house-candidate-winnie-heartstrong-insists-george-floyd-killing-was-staged

6/24/2020 11:33:18 AM

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This was from back in Feb apparently but body cam footage just came out. Guy standing there calmly talking and officer comes behind him and puts him in a bear hug, slams him to ground 10 seconds later. Then they had the wrong guy!!
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"Was the slam necessary? https://t.co/WqtssQm6H0"

6/24/2020 12:52:32 PM

thegoodlife3
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http://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1275850128008654849

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" this was released because the victim here is suing the valdosta police department for $700,000 and i hope he gets every penny and then some"


[Edited on June 24, 2020 at 2:19 PM. Reason : ^ didn’t see that. new info on it. ]

6/24/2020 2:13:53 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/the-killing-of-elijah-mcclain-everything-we-know.html

this is so fucking heartbreaking

6/24/2020 2:20:53 PM

rjrumfel
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https://www.newsbreak.com/colorado/aurora/news/0MlBgUer/colorado-man-elijah-mcclain-dead-after-resisting-police-arrest-sister-says-it-was-case-of-police-brutality

Here's one of the original articles.

I'm curious how you came across ^.

I mean you're so woke you should have had your pulse on this almost a year ago.
/sarcastic retort.

6/24/2020 2:45:58 PM

thegoodlife3
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do you regularly go to newsbreak.com?

I know I’ve never heard of it

please forgive me for not checking local Denver news on a daily basis, either


[Edited on June 24, 2020 at 2:58 PM. Reason : the piece I posted was published yesterday ]

6/24/2020 2:49:48 PM

rjrumfel
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This is the first time I've ever heard of medical first responders assisting the police in the takedown of someone. Wtf. If this case gets reopened, I hope they look at the first responders as well as the coroner.

6/24/2020 2:56:52 PM

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https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/06/24/minneapolis-police-union-boss-bob-kroll-tells-podcast-how-beat-civilian-review/

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“I’ve had 54 complaints filed against me over my 31 years, and I’m still here. I’m still Lieutenant. I’ve been disciplined, but none of it has ever been upheld. I’ve been sued 11 times,” Kroll said.

The podcast — released just two months before the police killing of George Floyd — illustrates Kroll’s shrewd political instincts, which critics say he’s used over the years to slow and obstruct reform.

Kroll encouraged officers to build relationships with local politicians on both sides of the aisle. Getting involved in politics is “an effective way to shut these things down before they start,” he said, referring to aggressive civilian police oversight."


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" The episode also featured Tulsa Police Department Major Travis Yates, who is under investigation by the department for comments on a June radio show about race and police shootings. Yates has said systemic racism in criminal justice doesn’t exist, and said on the radio show that “research says (police) are shooting African Americans about 24% less than we probably ought to be based on the crimes being committed.” "


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" Under the current Minneapolis Office of Police Conduct Review, established in 2012, office staff evaluate complaints against officers and order investigations into allegations of serious misconduct. A group of four civilian and sworn members from the Police Conduct Review Panel review these investigations, then send a recommendation to the police chief, who has final authority over discipline.

Fewer than 3% of the 1,627 complaints filed against officers between 2013 and 2018 resulted in discipline, according to data from Office of Police Conduct Review."

6/24/2020 7:22:26 PM

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^in the same vein as that last bit, story about how nypd ignores all complaints, and even reality
https://www.propublica.org/article/my-family-saw-a-police-car-hit-a-kid-on-halloween-then-i-learned-how-nypd-impunity-works

6/24/2020 8:05:43 PM

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https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2020/06/24/fired-wilmington-cop-we-are-just-going-to-go-out-and-start-slaughtering-them-f-ni-i-cant-wait-god-i-cant-wait-free-read/

tl;dr 3 Wilmington cops fired for accidentally recording themselves being super fucking racist and threatening to murder a judge while on duty.

6/24/2020 9:20:05 PM

HaLo
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Just another three bad apples

6/24/2020 11:00:29 PM

dmspack
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but look at this video of a cop helping an old lady cross the street...they're not all bad!

6/25/2020 6:45:54 AM

daaave
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^
Also he left her there with a dead wheelchair lol

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1275944404126031872?s=21

6/25/2020 9:56:48 AM

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That Wilmington story is so infuriating. Those racist comments were never reported by any colleague. It was only found in an audit by the new Chief of Police.

Also

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" Willaims and Saffo both stressed the importance of not placing the blame of the three officers on the hundreds of other officers in the department."


I mean...am I to believe these dudes never uttered a racist word around other coworkers? That’s the only way the other hundreds of officers (not necessarily literally every single one, but you get it) can’t be blamed. Assuming they did say similar shit in front of others then any officer aware of these comments and beliefs are 100% to blame.

6/25/2020 10:20:54 AM

rwoody
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Also are all the cases that relied on those 3 cops going to be reopened since they are severely tainted by bias?

6/25/2020 10:24:55 AM

daaave
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Absolutely not. And these cops will all get jobs in neighboring departments.

[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 10:33 AM. Reason : .]

6/25/2020 10:33:30 AM

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"Also are all the cases that relied on those 3 cops going to be reopened since they are severely tainted by bias?"


I would guess that any court case in which these officers testified could have grounds for an appeal/convictions thrown out.

6/25/2020 10:35:20 AM

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"Absolutely not. And these cops will all get jobs in neighboring departments."


[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 10:37 AM. Reason : ^ lemme know when that happens]

6/25/2020 10:36:51 AM

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It's difficult to get an appeal even when new DNA testing methods can prove a person's innocence. I could see a couple of people maybe getting lucky with a very good lawyer, but generally the system is not designed to fairly prosecute criminals. It's designed to put people in jail and keep them there - black, brown, indigenous, and poor whites.

[Edited on June 25, 2020 at 11:00 AM. Reason : .]

6/25/2020 10:58:28 AM

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The Guardian: Three charged in death of black teen restrained after throwing sandwich.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/25/michigan-staff-youth-center-charged-death-black-teenager-cornelius-fredericks

6/25/2020 8:52:09 PM

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"Good for Santa Cruz! “In a unanimous decision Tuesday, the City Council passed an ordinance that banishes the use of data to predict where crimes may occur and also barred the city from using facial recognition software.” https://t.co/1GfwYBvyk5"

6/26/2020 8:01:49 PM

rwoody
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"DC police are now doing this every night when they think the cameras are gone.

Trashing food and medical supplies, hitting people in the face, using mace.

The police brutality. Has. Not. Stopped.

https://t.co/hNeFuMHJI7"

6/28/2020 6:43:51 PM

rwoody
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"Tonight Detroit police drove into a group of protesters, then, when they were stopped in the middle of the group, they hit the gas.

??: @DJEazyTwist

https://t.co/ksQPlpvZSP"

6/29/2020 6:50:23 AM

rjrumfel
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^^Clearly, wind was getting ready to take the canopy away. They were just trying to help keep it grounded.

6/29/2020 7:03:36 AM

utowncha
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"passed an ordinance that banishes the use of data to predict where crimes may occur"


any details how this was being abused?

6/29/2020 7:29:46 AM

rjrumfel
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"We show 20% more events in this predominately African American community, therefore we're going to patrol it 20% more."

Oversimplification but that has to be it.

6/29/2020 8:11:59 AM

rwoody
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^nailed it

Patrol AA neighborhoods more, find drugs in AA neighborhoods (when drug use is much more equal across race), which means "crime" in AA neighborhoods, more patrols, and on and on

6/29/2020 9:04:01 AM

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the data from the crime prediction algorithms was formatted into a report, a Minority Report if you will

6/29/2020 9:24:38 AM

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