Well, I guess you could say performance? I mean insulin resistance in a bad way though - I was borderline diabetic and I don't want to rely on meds to keep my blood sugar in check (hypoglycemia). I am happy to report I am off the metformin now

I have some update pics now but they're not that special.. and I have to wait til I get to an area w/ wifi

7/6/2011 6:48:56 PM

How do y'all fight off cravings? I find that when I do have a craving it's for something sweet. 99% of the time I can just ignore it and it goes away. Does anyone have any tricks? I also try to drink a lot of water instead or distract myself with something else. Most of the time what I crave i don't even have in the house so having just a "bit" of it isn't much of an option.

7/6/2011 7:11:00 PM

I usually have a big glass of water or some cheese or fruit (... or both)


I love cheese.

7/6/2011 7:13:53 PM

^^ popsicles - sugar free if you can take it.

7/6/2011 7:16:59 PM

update shot




I honestly haven't had much change as far as size (at least I don't think I have)... but one thing I have noticed is my external obliques are more defined!!! SAY WHAAAAT

If I flex it looks pretty awesome so I'm excited about that.

My new goal (besides maintaining proper blood sugar levels) is to just trim my waist. I know you can't spot train, but that's the first place I lose weight so here it goessssss - I need to get back into workout mode for that wedding dress, ya heard?

7/6/2011 8:03:38 PM

I was going to take some update photos, but I seem to have lost my camera. Guess I'll look into ordering one off of Amazon.

7/6/2011 8:04:42 PM

sam you are looking the hotness

7/6/2011 8:15:37 PM

holy shit sam.


you look freaking AWESOME

7/6/2011 8:21:54 PM

You look great Sam!

7/6/2011 9:08:03 PM

Tricks for fighting hunger cravings:

1. Cold water
2. Beef jerky, protein shakes or any other high protein, low everything else snack.
3. Celery
4. High intensity exercise burst; busting out 20 squats or doing 10 burpees or something may help.
5. Caffeine, ephedra, caspacin, green tea, adderall, or any other stimulant should help. I recommend True Protein's Burn pills (only take 1/4 of the recommend dosage!)
6. Stay busy, boredom often leads to cravings
7. High protein, high fiber, moderate fat diet
8. Small amounts of fruit

7/6/2011 9:29:26 PM

Did you seriously just recommend ADDERALL??????

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 9:58 PM. Reason : ps thanks ladies :-D ]


I am seriously upset by your suggestion. I just want to say that NO ONE SHOULD EVER ABUSE ADDERALL IN THAT WAY.

I mean, Jesus Christ dude... you are recommending people take a class I prescribed medication that is NOT intended for weight loss just to curb their appetite. How is that healthy?!

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:02 PM. Reason : this is from someone who was on it]

7/6/2011 9:56:05 PM

I know when I crave stuff I eat cheese, pistachio nuts, beef jerky, and drink milk. Can you eat any of that? Aren't you dealing with food issues atm, CassTheSass?

7/6/2011 10:01:08 PM

Quote :

"6. Stay busy, boredom often leads to cravings"

I've been hungry as hell lately. It's embarrassing really.

7/6/2011 10:02:14 PM

You do realize some doctors will prescribe it for weightloss, right?

Doctors frequently rx meds for their off label uses.

And it's not abuse if you are taking it properly.

7/6/2011 10:07:29 PM

I've been reading back and all of the bodybuilding/super intense stuff has got to go. I do 5-12 hours of jiu-jitsu per week and maybe some strength & conditioning.

The conclusion that I've found is that you need to find some sort of exercise program that you find fun and stick to it. The more fun it is and the less it feels like work, the better you feel and look!

7/6/2011 10:08:01 PM

i really don't think that a legit doctor would prescribe adderall for weightloss....

and weren't we just having all these conversations about doing the weight loss the right way? is taking a pill the right way?

7/6/2011 10:08:05 PM

Also, this isn't the be healthy thread. This is the beach body thread. The question was how to stave off cravings. Adderall's, and other amphetamines, do a wonderful job of appetite suppression.

You are right though, it definitely should not be abused or taken liberally.

7/6/2011 10:09:33 PM

Doctors rarely prescribe adderall for weight loss, it is primarily phentermine.

And adderall is not something to mess around with. It is an extreme appetite suppressant- what I have an issue with is what you're recommending is NOT. HEALTHY.

This is coming from personal experience. I lost 10 lbs on that mess, and it was all from not eating when I should have been. Some days I had to force myself to eat and was miserable for having to do so.


I really hope you don't typically recommend taking such a medication.


HOLY SHIT. You are a nutjob.


I cannot even fathom how your last post can be serious.

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:12 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2011 10:11:05 PM

oh well if this is just the beach body thread and we don't give a shit about being healthy then fuck it. i'll just stop eating, get hopped up on drugs and the pounds will just melt away!

7/6/2011 10:12:01 PM

Luna, please define losing weight the right way.

People get fat and destroy their bodies through unnatural eating and lifestyle patterns. To correct it, using some modern tools can be very helpful, this includes pills and supplements.

It is important to evaluate the pro's and con's of everything, including supplements, diet, activity, etc.

7/6/2011 10:12:45 PM

losing weight the right way = eating healthy in moderation and exercise

is it really that tough to comprehend.

YES there are people who are so beyond those means that they need surgery or serious help. but seriously, i don't see the people who are in need of surgery for weightloss in this thread.

7/6/2011 10:14:41 PM

AMPHETAMINES = SPEED

Why would you EVER recommend that?!


Ya know what, fuck this thread and fuck your advice. I would rather lose weight the healthy way and encourage others without offering shady advice. And I damn sure would rather be the size I am than ripped or toned all because of fucking amphetamines.

7/6/2011 10:15:44 PM

Nutjob? Give me a break.

I look at supplements, food, training, and lifestyle as tools. Different tools for different jobs. You weigh the pro's, con's and risks and make educated decisions.

To me, you seem like the nut job who completely dismisses ideas and options based on a limited experience or view.

I am not recommending abusing amphetamines. What I am saying is that there are chemical solutions to hunger problems. Practically everything in the human body is based on chemical signals, learning how to manipulate them can be very useful.

So back the fuck up and realize that I am not advocating the use of these drugs, but they are a viable alternative to stave off hunger problems.

7/6/2011 10:17:24 PM

I've notice that when I have a cup of yerba mate my hunger craving goes away. I like the chocolate yerba mate, it's good! But also eating a lot of small meals throughout the day instead of 3 big meals has helped me too.

7/6/2011 10:19:07 PM

you're not advocating them BUT they're a viable alternative righhtttt

7/6/2011 10:19:44 PM

I was on Adderall for months, and not for weight loss.


I directly felt the weight loss side effects.


GTFO with that mess. You are a nutjob if you are recommending people take amphetamines to achieve a beach body. That is just as bad as recommending steroids.


Have fun with your "beach body."

7/6/2011 10:19:49 PM

LOL you think my physique is due to adderall? I didn't even have a perscription through the first half of it. So get the fuck out of here.

It's called sticking to a proper diet and training program. I went through massive hunger pangs and temptations.

If you've got a personal beef with it, that's your thing. But don't judge me when you know nothing about me or my habits.

7/6/2011 10:21:05 PM

Where did I say your body was due to adderall?


Oh that's right.... I DIDN'T. But way to get defensive.

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:23 PM. Reason : but now i can see you STARVED YOURSELF. thats totally healthy. ]

7/6/2011 10:23:16 PM

Like I said, there are tools for every job. Use what you want to after weighing the risks and benefits.

I personally don't use it for controlling my appetite, but it was a side benefit. I use it occasionally to get my study on and get shit done.

I pride myself on spreading facts. The fact is it works well for appetite suppression. Hunger control is one the hardest things to control when you start getting below 8-9% body fat.

I've also read the using nicotine patches/gum is also very effective.

7/6/2011 10:25:39 PM

Holy shit.


You are a genuine nutjob.



I am officially not participating ITT. Congrats on ruining it.

7/6/2011 10:27:03 PM

So you used massive starvation and mis-prescribed pills to get to your goals? And that's what everyone else itt should do? Oh and don't forget pinning yourself and nearly dying on dangerous one-rep max loads with no spotter on your negative glute bridge jumpers days.

Got it.

This thread has really hit the shitter with people taking the "beach body" too literal.

7/6/2011 10:27:33 PM

Quote :

"a know what, fuck this thread and fuck your advice. I would rather lose weight the healthy way and encourage others without offering shady advice. And I damn sure would rather be the size I am than ripped or toned all because of fucking amphetamines."

It is easy to infer that this was directed at me as judgement of recommending adderall as a hunger suppressor.

And if you fail to realize how that can be, you may want to work on yous conversation skills.

7/6/2011 10:28:31 PM

You may want to work on tuning your advice to the audience. Don't go fucking prescribing adderall to someone who is just now trying to get proper bench and squat form.

7/6/2011 10:31:16 PM

I read it as a "thank you but no thanks to the adderall suggestion", that she would rather not have the "beach body" than use adderall to get it. Nothing directed to anyone else's body.

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:32 PM. Reason : i think i'm confused]

7/6/2011 10:31:48 PM

Y'all are ridiculous.

You do realize having a ripped six pack while being muscular is a very unnatural condition, right?

Getting down to that low body fat and maintaining it requires very meticulous dieting and effort. Your body goes crazy. Hunger gets borderline uncontrollable.

And yes, getting down to 8% is starving yourself. That is why you get so fucking hungry.

If you do it correctly, you mitigate health risks by getting in essential healthy fats, taking vitamin supplements, and eating a lot of meats, fruits and veges.

Do you have to use adderall? Hell no. Is it useful to supress appetite? Definitely. WTF is so hard to understand about that. You all are adults and should be able to make educated decisions on what substances you do or do not want to use. Stop getting all upset if someone recommends something that is outside of your reality tunnel or set of values.

You are more than welcome to disagree with it, but be fucking constructive about it. Not resorting ad homeniem and sounding ignorant about the realities of chemicals.

7/6/2011 10:34:00 PM

Page 1 of this thread is so full of hope and promise

7/6/2011 10:38:24 PM

I've found that if you stop eating after about a month, you don't really get hungry any more. That month can be really tough though. But, don't worry, because if you can't tough it out, then induced vomiting is always an option! If you don't have a lot of time to waste, then throw in some drugs to speed up fat burning. Oh and PLEASE DON'T FORGET YOUR VITAMINS!

7/6/2011 10:39:34 PM

This thread got awesome, and not because of bikini pics.

I did not see that coming.

7/6/2011 10:40:28 PM

I also want to touch on your comment about recommending steroids. And for the record, I've never touched them or even seen them. That's a can of worms I don't want to open until I am around my late 40s.

Let's take a situation where there are 2 very different people with the same goal of getting a "beach body"

Person 1 has naturally high testosterone levels and has a ripped physique, gets great results in the gym and through dieting almost effortlessly due to having the right set of parents.

Person 2 has hypogonadism and can not produce nearly as much testosterone as person 1. These affects his ability to gain muscle or lose significant amounts of bodyfat.

Would it be wrong for person 2 to take steroids?

7/6/2011 10:40:42 PM

well yeah, if he's eating healthy and living a healthy life style why does he need to add chemicals to change his physique? Why can't he be happy with this natural body?


just want to say I posted this before I knew what hypogonadism is... I think if you have this condition you should go with the recommendations of your doctor

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ]

7/6/2011 10:43:50 PM

If person 2 didn't care about the side effects of steroids and ALL they were concerned about was getting ripped - why not.

I feel like you're completely missing the point of this thread. I "won" the thread last year. Check my pictures. I am in no way ripped or 8% body fat. The whole point was to get your ass in shape. Post progress. Get encouragement advice and help from others.

Even the mentioning of adderall as a means of weight loss is COMPLETELY counter to what this thread was trying to accomplish.

7/6/2011 10:44:43 PM

I was going to keep mum for good ITT

But dont even start talking about genetic conditions. I will rock your world.

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:46 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2011 10:44:51 PM

^^^because he has a small penis?

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:45 PM. Reason : slow]

7/6/2011 10:45:21 PM

The guy should probably see his genetic counselor or other doc and see what the best path forward would be

Provided that said doc isn't some internet keyboard pharmacist

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:45 PM. Reason : doc]

7/6/2011 10:45:26 PM

hey y'all

chill out

[Edited on July 6, 2011 at 10:47 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2011 10:46:44 PM

but Daaaddddd

7/6/2011 10:48:18 PM

This thread has turned in to a sounding board for nutritional and training advice. Some one asked how to control hunger cravings, I gave one controversial solution a among many.

I don't understand why a few of you are so up in arms about a controversial recommendation. Hell you can break a leg running or tear an ACL squatting. There are risks for everything.

##


You can get a doctor to prescribe almost anything, if you go to the right doctor. In this situation a doctor would probably recommend exogenous testosterone supplementation AKA Steroids.

Are you saying that if you get it from a Doctor, it magically becomes OK?

There seems to be a lot of ignorance about steroids ITT, I recommend watching the documentary Bigger, Faster, Stronger for a unbiased perspective on steroid usage in America.

7/6/2011 10:53:40 PM

And here I thought we were on the path back toward being civil, acknowledging that we all have different goals, and not taking things personally.

That doesn't mean we can't disagree with each other, but be respectful in your disagreement.

7/6/2011 10:54:03 PM

Watch it for free on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qqwsbBZCkk

7/6/2011 10:55:57 PM

errrrr, dude....

I think you missed the cue to STFU


so.... let's just end it here. You got the last word... congrats.



WORD.

7/6/2011 10:56:17 PM