yes
1/18/2006 11:38:41 PM
1/18/2006 11:48:35 PM
I have a feeling that Sara (Jack's wife) was sleeping with Jack's Dad. That's the reason that Jack hates his dad so much.
1/19/2006 12:51:12 AM
i thought about that, but i doubt it
1/19/2006 1:28:49 AM
Gordan's Fisherman man said "You don't go to another man's house...etc. blah blah. You're on our island" stuff and all the while I was thinking, yeah because Jack and Co. planned to crash on the island. With the exception of Locke and Kate, I don't think any of them are particularly happy to be there.
1/19/2006 7:25:52 AM
i completely missed he said alex
1/19/2006 8:07:23 AM
yeah obviously where the hell could rousseau or desmond could have gone? odd that no more mention of either.on swamp thing's imdb, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/ it used to credit him for 'kelvin' on LOST, which desmond had said to be the guy in the hatch before him that had died. but now it says mr friendly instead. wonder what happened.im still thinking 'the stand' with the way some are ready to form an army and fight, some are just trying to survive, etc.
1/19/2006 8:21:11 AM
i didn't realize he was roscoe from the dukes of hazzard
1/19/2006 10:51:15 AM
it also says that he was bearded man in the season finale of last season --- meaning that the dude that died on table under jack is the gorton's fisherman man.logical connections?
1/19/2006 10:53:59 AM
by the way, interesting lost trivia @ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411008/trivia
1/19/2006 10:59:55 AM
^^uhdon't you think it was the bearded man on the boat who took walt?
1/19/2006 11:01:55 AM
yeah, bearded man took walt. bearded man was the guy in the woods last night with jack and everyone. i'm saying that imdb says the same actor played both bearded man and the cancer patient that died. so either it's "just the same actor"...which is really all i can see it being. though, it could play into that entire "twin theory", if cancer patient's twin was on the island as bearded man.
1/19/2006 11:35:10 AM
WE DON'T TAKE KINDLY TO PEOPLE COMIN' ON OUR ISLAND.
1/19/2006 11:44:54 AM
where does it say he was the cancer patient?
1/19/2006 11:45:02 AM
refresh me: what cancer patient are we talking about here?
1/19/2006 11:50:56 AM
not gonna fronti was wondering that myselfi sent virga a pm for some clarityahahahahamarko bttt'd my "CAPTAIN GORTON IS A DICK" thread[Edited on January 19, 2006 at 11:58 AM. Reason : thxu marko!!!]
1/19/2006 11:56:35 AM
That thread is awesome.Seriously, last night's little showdown was COMPLETELY unexpected. I was waiting for yet another running around with nothing really happening episode.p.s. that LIGHT 'EM UP! shit was cheeseball as hell. But I bet when you sit around on a spooky island all day you probably come up with plans like that to scare outsiders. I bet Gordon can totally do some wicked magic tricks 'n' shit.
1/19/2006 12:01:06 PM
i didn't think it was cornball, i thought it did exactly what it needed to doknock jack off his pedestal of "my logic is never wrong"
1/19/2006 12:10:54 PM
Yeah, well, your mama.
1/19/2006 12:17:25 PM
i thought he was gonna be allmy name is the gortons fishermanyou killed my ranch dressingprepare to die
1/19/2006 12:19:14 PM
hahahahahaha
1/19/2006 12:45:21 PM
virga was referring to the character who died last night on the tablethe foreign cancer patient
1/19/2006 3:57:32 PM
i didn't recall them saying that old foreign dude had cancer, i just thought his spine was all fucked up somehow...if y'all are saying that (old, foreign dude)=(gordon's fisherman/others leader), then I don't buy it
1/19/2006 4:04:38 PM
old foreign dude had a tumor on his spinethats why they came to jack
1/19/2006 4:05:14 PM
They said he had a tumor numerous times.Were you watching the show on mute?
1/19/2006 4:09:39 PM
maybe he doesn't know that generally a "tumor" is a lump of cancerous tissue
1/19/2006 4:35:18 PM
Maybe he hit that SAP button.And was like "el tumor"? What the fuck is a el tumor.
1/19/2006 4:43:50 PM
Why didn't Jack and co. ask Zeke any questions? Such as, "Hey! What's with the island? What's going on with the smoke monster? [You know, the one that Charlie and Eko saw but didn't say anything to anyone else about because looking at records is more important?] Who are you guys? What's the deal with the numbers? What's the Dharma Initiative? Can we be friends? Why'd you guys kidnap Walt? What's with the whispering? Dude, what's with the polar bears?" Or "Hey, we didn't ASK to crash-land here, we just want to get off the island, but last time we tried that, you guys blew up our boat and shot us, so don't think we want to stay here! Just show us the way off!"
1/19/2006 4:49:11 PM
uhmbecause zeke controlled the discussionany time jack tried to challenge him for control, variables were introduced to bitch him downhell they didn't even show themselves until jack was challenged by locke for control of the search partywhen jack tried to say he and the lone shooter were the only ones out there - he was proved wrongwhen jack refused to give into his demands of going back - kate was providedwhen jack refused to put his gun down - kate was threatenedjack was not in chargebut locke could have possibly gotten some answers]
1/19/2006 4:53:26 PM
ok you know one of you would have said "WTF man?"I would have.
1/19/2006 4:54:59 PM
he did get one question inabout "spies"
1/19/2006 4:56:16 PM
that was more of a FU comment
1/19/2006 4:57:34 PM
If Locke would have "been in charge" of the search party, I bet they would have sat down and talked about all sorts of stuff. Stupid Jack. Stupid Sawyer. Stupid Kate.
1/19/2006 5:04:30 PM
Yeah Jack didn't get any answers, but at least he was talking. Locke was being a little bitch the whole time. Jack was trying to stand up to them and he found out how many of them there were, Locke was wanting to leave even before that guy rolled up. Had they listened to Locke's leadership they never would have ran into "Zeke".If you know these people stole a kid and harmed others from your plane crash, would you really want to become buddy-buddy with them?[Edited on January 19, 2006 at 5:06 PM. Reason : .]
1/19/2006 5:04:59 PM
it's all kate's faultif kate stays behind like she's supposed/told to, then the others don't have as much leverage
1/19/2006 5:21:06 PM
but what gives jack the right the right to determine who comes and who goes?
1/19/2006 8:21:29 PM
um hes the man?
1/19/2006 8:50:02 PM
i think i blacked out during the "el tumor" portion of the show..ggback on topic...YOMAMA has a good point...why didn't jack at least make an attempt to figure some things out, ANYTHING, about what the F is going on with the islandI don't buy the, "Zeke controlled the conversation" junk...Jack was obviously in "I don't give a fuck" mode and could have at least gotten one question off, even if the bastard didn't answer
1/19/2006 8:53:24 PM
1/19/2006 9:06:45 PM
i caught the "alex" thing also..but wasn't sure if he said alice or alex....looked like a guy's arm
1/19/2006 9:11:58 PM
i agree with the folks abovei was pissed when captain beard-o left without jack even asking a questionwhen he told locke to start up the fire so they could talk i was like hell yes here it go[Edited on January 19, 2006 at 9:13 PM. Reason : ^definitely said alex]
1/19/2006 9:13:32 PM
1/19/2006 9:55:33 PM
jack is actually somewhat logical and thinks his shit through, everyone else acts on a whim and is selfish.jack cares about the group as a whole, that's why people listen to him and care about what he thinks.
1/19/2006 10:59:24 PM
I think there is another spy. Zeke had a crazy look on his face when Jack mentioned spys. Jack did not ask the questions because the show would be over. He could have said "Get us off this island and its yours"One website claims that the guy who died on the table was in the Dharma video in the window. Zeke also quotes the dharma video. Another site says walt was on the screen when they lit the torches.
1/20/2006 5:38:02 PM
1/20/2006 6:04:03 PM
why would zeke answer his questions?
1/20/2006 6:44:01 PM
1/20/2006 6:57:18 PM
I don't see anything mysterious about Zeke quoting the video or knowing about the experiment.that is probably the main reason he is on the island, b/c he knows all about that junk
1/20/2006 7:55:20 PM
^^^^^ I just watched, few white guys in the woods, didnt see any females, definitely didnt see Walt.[Edited on January 20, 2006 at 8:02 PM. Reason : er]
1/20/2006 8:02:00 PM
^^^ the whole speech about "since the dawn of civilization...curiousity...etc." was from the video
1/20/2006 8:44:20 PM