anyone have any experience with G&L guitars? i've only ever heard great things about them. i've wanted a tele for years, but wouldn't mind dropping a little more cash on the G&L ASAT if it was really worth it.

2/12/2008 8:43:24 AM

my brother has one and its pretty sick.

2/12/2008 8:46:05 AM

^he's got an asat or the strat (i think its called the commanche)?

2/12/2008 8:50:06 AM

i've played the asat (tele-lookin guitar) in stores before and it felt/sounded pretty good. i wasn't sold on them, but different strokes for different folks. i'm afraid i can't be much help here.

2/12/2008 9:29:34 AM

ASATs are great guitars, but make sure you get a real USA G&L. The Tribute Series doesn't live up to the name.

2/12/2008 3:20:58 PM

he's got a G&L Telecaster copy IIRC.

2/12/2008 4:25:27 PM

there's a picture of my asat in my gallery. its the real deal, i got it half price from the music loft back when they were trying to liquidate some stuff before selling their inventory to what is now guitar center (i assume guitar center is still there, up on capital blvd. i haven't been in raleigh in a couple years). at any rate, i love it. highly recommended.

2/12/2008 6:40:02 PM

^half price asat? you truly are a lucky man. i think i may give one a test run this weekend, and if they have one in honey blonde with a black pick guard i think i may do my civic duty and spend that tax rebate i haven't gotten yet.

2/12/2008 7:30:25 PM

love love LOVE blond teles

which is why i painted mine red/white/blue over the weekend and replaced the bridge pickup with a danelectro lipstick tube

wait

2/13/2008 6:38:27 AM

Does anybody here have an Ibanez AS200?

2/13/2008 7:52:15 PM

Just got one of these:



5w Class A, which means you can crank it all the way up and get that perfect sag without ripping the roof off your house. The best part is that volume matches perfectly with the breakup point volume of my other amp (15w), so I can have a dual amp rig that actually works on its own and still use the touch sensitivity of my P-90s without having to worry about volume discrepancy.

2/19/2008 6:05:24 PM

i'm trying REALLY hard not to buy

http://cgi.ebay.com/Framus-Dragon-4x12-Straight-Cabinet_W0QQitemZ300198623900QQihZ020QQcategoryZ10171QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
because i don't really have $400 to spend on a cab lol but this is rare so close to home.

2/19/2008 6:12:06 PM

Quote :

"nyone have any experience with G&L guitars? i've only ever heard great things about them. i've wanted a tele for years, but wouldn't mind dropping a little more cash on the G&L ASAT if it was really worth it."

If you've not made up your mind yet, I'll throw out another good word for G&L. While I've never played an ASAT, I have a '97 G&L Legacy (their version of the Strat) and I absolutely love it. Bought it new 10 years ago for a pretty good deal (paid $700, list at the time on a Legacy standard in Honeyburst was $1100). Well put together and plays beautifully; the G&L instruments really are the final distillation of Leo Fender's designs. I think you'll be very happy with the purchase.

2/19/2008 6:23:24 PM

GET EXCITED, I AM.
i just bought one of these.

pretty pumped, only takes ~20 minutes to setup if you aren't a n00b to tremoloz.






also, i hate when people jam in guitar vids. and these guys are extra terribad.

2/22/2008 11:49:30 AM

cant really watch the video in full at work at the moment. but im guessing this is something that just makes it easier to switch between an artificial hardtail and trem setup? because its relatively easy to block your trem for an artificial hard tail now. But maybe this makes it easy to do without opening up the backplate and removing/adding the block?

2/22/2008 11:54:05 AM

Well with the turn of a few knobs in the cavity, you can switch between, dive only, hardtail and fully floating with no change to the tension of your trem.


same knobs as the fine tuning ones on the bridge

2/22/2008 11:56:52 AM

that sounds really cool. i wanna wait and read some about it as far as how well it stays in tune etc.

wow just read a bit more on it, and i REALLY like the way this thing works...

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 12:02 PM. Reason : ]

2/22/2008 11:58:40 AM

Well the thing about it is, all it is a claw, with a shaft that attaches to your trem block.


thats backwards from the normal way claws are shown.

When its in full floating if everything is perfectly perpendicular then theres no stress on the trem at all. Dive only blocks the shaft from being extended and hardtail completely locks the shaft where it attaches on the left side of that pic to the trem block.

2/22/2008 12:02:02 PM

dive only setting letting you stay in tune even if you break a string is HOT

2/22/2008 12:03:11 PM

wow


i want one.

2/22/2008 2:47:09 PM

it was only $65+shipping. I figure thats worth not having to spend 30 minutes anytime i want to play in a different tuning, or buying another guitar.

2/22/2008 2:52:49 PM

lol. ive been planning on buying another guitar anyways just for a different tuning. (the only one i have in standard is absolute poop)

i probably still will anyways but im interested in messing with this. i still want to get a straight up rock guitar, and another metal guitar. at least one of them i want custom, probably myself doing all the staining and stuff tho. havent decided on what i want exactly..i keep changing my mind so much

2/22/2008 3:02:36 PM

now i can switch to LTHB strings without worring about spring tension in higher tunings really.

2/22/2008 3:20:46 PM

I am a drummer--not a guitarist. But I have always preferred the sound and look of of a Les Paul.

I like Paul Reed Smith, too, though. What do some of you think of these guitars?



PS: Has the EBow been discussed here yet?



[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2008 3:26:07 PM

PRS are rad.

2/22/2008 3:27:24 PM

My baby

Ibanez RGA Prestige 121

2/22/2008 3:31:33 PM

I have always preferred the look and sound of a les paul too...however i am a n00b and have never played one.

2/22/2008 3:32:00 PM

^^ Nice.

^ Well, I've held plenty of them--they're heavy compared to, say, a Strat.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 3:34 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2008 3:33:35 PM

i have smallish hands and i don't really like the necks on LP's but they're great guitars.
Ebows are rad: See Opeth - Blackwater Park.


or even ratatat.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 3:43 PM. Reason : or even.]

2/22/2008 3:43:18 PM

A Les Paul is a big fat log.

Plus it has humbuckers, which I hate.

The Les Paul Junior, on the other hand, might be the greatest guitar ever made.

E-Bows are fun to dick around with, but I never really found a very musical use for them aside from the harmonic mode with some delay.

2/22/2008 3:58:16 PM

i agree about ebows not being useful - i tried several times to incorporate them, but usually when the battery died, so did my interest in using it. the prestige i posted above has teh same woods as a les paul, but has a tighter low end. as far as actual les pauls go, they are hit and miss when it comes to a good playing, good sounding instrument. also, the fat neck can be a problem for those with small hands, and the weight of them can be a problem down the road as far as your spine is concerned.
I personally do not like single coil pickups, mainly due to the 60 cycle hum, but i do like my coil taps.

Quote :

"dive only setting letting you stay in tune even if you break a string is HOT"

you shouldn't be breaking strings in the first place. I play really hard on big strings(zack wylde 11's), and i always used to break my low E, but when i bought my ibanez prestige all that stopped - it was because i had a burr in one of the string saddles on my old guitar. since i got the ibanez, i have not broken a string in over a year.

2/22/2008 4:11:21 PM

^^ Sorry I took so long to reply--my computer started doing something weird.

I hear you and I swear I am not trying to give you shit, but I think your EBow post reveals a certain musical laziness and perhaps a general lack of interest in creativity. Aside from infinite single-string sustain, which itself should be worth investigating and maintaining, the EBow can produce an incredible range of sounds.

Check these out:

A list of artists' tracks using EBow:

[link] http://www.ebow.com/ebow/record.htm [/link]

EBow demo:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwq0i6jP7dQ

http://www.ebow.com/ebow/demoline.htm

I urge all guitarists that may have "tinkered" with the EBow in the past to give this device a second look. It's one more trick in the bag, you know? And a damned versatile trick at that.

PS: And most of my frustration with this attitude about the EBow is not about you. It's about this same conversation that I continually have with a guitar player that I've played with for decades.

I mean, he rarely used many effects until I got on his ass about them--now he can't live without them. He never used a slide until I got on his ass about it--and at a show a few weeks ago, he used his harmonica as a slide and the crowd went wild. The EBow is the same deal--I'll be proven right in the end.

[Edited on February 22, 2008 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2008 4:33:51 PM

breaking strings is not bad. my other guitarist and i play really hard and sometimes wait a little too long to change strings we've still only broken a few over 5 years but it SUCKS

2/22/2008 4:34:08 PM

now tell me you think ebows are useless..
they're impracticable live, but other than that.



only time i break strings usually involves whammying or fluttering 'excessively'.

2/22/2008 4:37:12 PM

^ Even then. I've seen the guy from Collective Soul use his EBow live--he had it on a string hanging from his mic boom stand.

2/22/2008 4:44:38 PM

^^ yea we REALLY tear into the whammy bar on a couple parts on our new song. i know we're going to be breaking some strings live during that song at some point.

2/22/2008 4:49:48 PM

Quote :

"now tell me you think ebows are useless.."

yea, i still think they are useless - that opeth track actually sounded more like a single coil with a slide and a light touch with the pick hand - i heard nothing in that song that makes me want to re examine the ebow. the only guy i know of that made use of a strange effect and was successful with it was peter frampton with a talk box. remember when fernandez guitars had a sustainer built into them?

2/22/2008 5:18:08 PM

^ Tracks featuring EBow:

7% Solution: Blindshore, Lost, The Sky Suspended, Tomorrow Never Knows
Adrian Belew: The Final Rhino
The Alarm: Howling Wind, Where Were You Hiding When The Storm Broke
Alice In Chains: Heaven Beside You
Alon: Art's End
Anthrax: Bare
Archers Of Loaf : Smokers in Love, After the Last Laugh, White Trash Heroes
Richard Barone: River To River, Miss Jean, Flew A Falcon
Bauhaus: Lajartija Nick, Exquisite Corpse
Belly: The Bees, Sweet Ride
Berlin: Intimate (DVD) on Lost My Mind and Drug
Beyond The Bars: Various
Big Country: The Storm , In A Big Country, Lost Patrol, Porrohman, One In A Million, Charlotte, Eiledon
The Black Crowes: Gone
Blind Melon: Time, Wilt
Blondie: Dreaming, Kidnapper, Cautious Lips, Youth Nabbed As Sniper, Fade Away And Radiate, Dog Star Girl
Blue Oyster Cult: Don't Fear The Reaper
Boiled In Lead: Shamrock Shore
The Bongos: Numbers With Wings, Brave New World, Sweet Blue Cage
David Bowie: Heroes (Live at Freddy Mercury's Tribute in 1992 - Mick Ronson on guitar)
Broadside Electric: Mose Salio de Misrayim, Silkie
Built To Spill: Untrustable
Belinda Carlisle: Love Walks In (ebow by Chrissy Shefts)
Caifanes: Miedo, La Llorona
Camouflage: Seize Your Day
The Cars: Shake It Up, Since You're Gone
Chameleons: Soul In Isolation, I'll Remember
The Church: Shadow Cabinet, Myrrh, Constant In Opal, Tantalize
Collective Soul: Maybe, Forgiveness, Disciplined Breakdown, Link, In Between, Giving
Phil Collins: It Doesn't Matter To Me
The Cranberries: Daffodil Lament
Creeker (Dallas): Little Sweet Delirium
The Cure: Disintegration Album
The Dandy Warhols: Live
Def Leppard: White Lightning, Stand Up, Fractured Love
Delirious?: Cutting Edge, King Of Fools, Live & In The Can, Mezzamorphis
Depeche Mode: Walking In My Shoes
Dream Theater: Space-Dye Vest
Pete Droge: Necktie Second
Duran Duran: American Science
John Ellis: Infanta, Improviso, Infinite Sustain, others. Hear these on John's website.
Buddy Emmons (on steel guitar): Once Upon A Time In The West
Enchant: The Thirst
Faith No More: Strip Search
The Feelies: Only Life
Fields of the Nephilim: Last Exit For The Lost
Flock of Seagulls: Hot Tonight, Transfer Affection, If I Had A Photograph Of You, Nightmares
The Robert Fripp String Quintet: The Bridge Between
Fred Frith: What A Dilemma
Peter Gabriel: Red Rain (live), Bread and Wine (Passion-1989)
Van Halen: Spanked
Peter Hammill: Enter K, Patience, Out of Water. EBow by John Ellis currently with The Stranglers
PJ Harvey: To Bring You My Love
Mats Hedberg: Nordiclights
Heart: Crazy On You, Barracuda
Scott Huckabay: If You Believe, Metaphors, Mist of Avalon, From the Moment of Life, Divine Union, Touching Solid Branches, The Journey, The Nature, A New Sunrise, Reflections, Psychedelic Dolphin, On Shimmering Ground, Between Tomorrow & Now
Iona (Celtic rock band): Encircling, When I Survey
James: She's A Star
Elton John: The One, others
Henry Kaiser: Wind Crystals, Daredevils, Aloha, If Looks Could Kill, Info Mechanics, With Friends Like These
Phil Keaggy: Amazing Grace, Pilgrim's Flight, Town To Town, Rise Up O Men Of God, Let Everything Else Go, Reaching Out, I Love You Lord, When The Wild Winds Blow
King's X: Ear Candy, Cigarettes (live)
Paul Kurzweil: Song 86, The Tango Express
k.d.lang: The Air That I Breathe (Drag)
Love and Rockets: The Light, All In My Mind, Laralay, Love Me, An American Dream, Saudade, Haunted While The Minutes Drag, Seventh Dream Of Teenage Heaven
Marillion: Cinderella Search, Pseudo Silk Kimono (the intro of Misplaced Childhood), Nightwater by The Wishing Tree on the album Carnival of Souls, You're Gone, Seasons End (live version).
Metallica: Unforgiven, Blackened
Man on Fire: Various
Michael Manring: Adhan (2 EBows on bass - EBow only), On A Day OF Many Angels, Cruel And Unusual, Bad Hair Day, Big Fungus, plus other cuts on Thonk
Missing Persons: Noticeable One, Waiting For A Million Years, Racing Against Time (solo)
Krzysztof Misiak: Zdjecie z Misiem (Photo with The Bear)
The Mission UK: Wasteland, Blood Brother, Dance on Glass
Modern English: I Melt With You, Life In The Gladhouse
Mofungo: Union Of Scabs, Hosting A War
Robert Muller: Ten, Big Star, Secrets, Pale Yellow (mp3 samples on Robert's website)
Bill Nelson: The October Man, A Private View, Blue As A Jewel
Oasis: What's The Story (Morning Glory), Wonderwall
Pearl Jam: Wishlist , Release, Not For You, No Way
Pink Floyd: Take It Back, Keep Talking
The Psychedelic Furs: Dumb Waiters, Like A Stranger, Highwire Days, Alices House, Only You And I
Queen: : Good Company (Night At The Opera album played by Brian May)
R.E.M.: E-Bow The Letter, Leave
Radio Head: : My Iron Lung
Red Hot Chili Peppers: Falling Into Grace, One Big Mob
Gino Robair: Electromagnetism (EBow on snare drum)
Scuba: The Old Man and the Boy, Ego Trip, Family Tree
Elliott Sharp: Various
Duncan Sheik: Barely Breathing
The Sisters of Mercy: Marian (Version)
Six By Seven: Spy Song
Smashing Pumpkins: Sinfony , Where Boys, Soma, In the Arms of Sleep, Drown, Here is No Why, Daphne Descends, Believe, Hummer, Obscure, Rocket, To Forgive (live), Stand Inside Your Love (live)
Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun, The Day I Tried To Live
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: Climb That Hill
Tones On Tail: Burning Skies, When You're Smiling, A Bigger Splash, Means Of Escape, Christian Says
Trapezoid: Elegy: The Dry Leaves of Autumn (on hammered dulcimer)
U2: Unforgettable Fire, With Or Without You (live)
Steve Vai: All About Eve (Fire Garden)
Violent Femmes: Breakin' Up
Carl Weingarten Cambodian Waltz, The Acoustic Shadow, Tango in Tangiers
Wierd Al Yankovic: Syndicated Inc, Callin' In Sick
Yoke Shire: The Three Welcomes (all EBow), Maiden Voyage
Frank Zappa: Filthy Habits
Other Artists who use the EBow: Bela Fleck, Black Cat Bone, Black Oak, John Cage, Eugene Chadbourne, Cheap Trick, Ry Cooder, Pablo Cruise, Curious Voltage, Jonathan Elias, The Eric Gales Band, Steve Hackett, Djam Karet, Kiss, The Lucy Show, Steve Lynch, Les Paul, Donny Roberts, Zander Schloss, Talking Heads, Chris Proctor, Good Rats, REO Speedwagon, Tesla, Todd Rundgren, Twisted Sister, Ultra Violet, Webb Wilder.

If you know of other good examples of EBow recordings, let us know.

http://www.ebow.com/ebow/record.htm

And if you can watch this video and still say the EBow is useless, you really don't know what you're talking about--sorry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwq0i6jP7dQ

(Please embed.)

2/22/2008 5:28:26 PM

Quote :

" And if you can watch this video and still say the EBow is useless, you really don't know what you're talking about--sorry."

it's a matter of opinion, dipshit. I can't be wrong. yes, a ton of bands have used it. awesome. i'm glad you can copy/paste. I have been playing guitar for almost 23 years, and I have yet to find a repeatable application for an ebow in my music, or cover songs. I used to own an ebow, once upon a time, but as i said before, I believe the ebow to be useless.

and no, the video didn't change my mind. OOOO, super delay and ebow, OOOooOOO. face it - it's not that cool.

after reading the list of musicians that used the ebow, i am even more sure of myself here - most of those artists/ songs are either unknown, or suck - sure, there are a few exceptions, like metallica, but ya know, those songs would have been better without the ebow anyways.

and if this is any indication of how all ebow users act while using, then blech no thanks.



if you find a NEW way to use the ebow that hasnt been done a hundred times over, let me know.
until that time, i condemn the ebow to crappiness.

2/22/2008 5:39:13 PM

My opinion is that you are wrong, and since my opinion can't be wrong...




since when are things only good because you can a new find use for them? i guess i can't use distortion anymore since its been over used.

2/22/2008 6:14:23 PM

I'm much more interested in people who play and tune the instrument creatively (or make use of a specific instrument's individual quirks, like Sonic Youth or My Bloody Valentine with the Jazzmaster tailpiece) than I am people who use a gadget to make an interesting sound.

2/22/2008 6:15:05 PM

^ Mattias IA Eklundh.
sort of.


the songs he has on youtube are all pretty mediocre, his solo albums have things that are a bit better / more unique.

2/22/2008 6:17:53 PM

WANT. ONE. SO. BAD.

2/23/2008 12:34:18 AM

you make me out to be an effects nazi. that is the furthest thing from the truth.
come by someday and I will let you play through some of my 'walkman' distortion pedals, which have an input jack soldered to the tape head leads - the more buttons/eq/bass settings, the crazier the sound. or try out my massive collection of remote controls...that's right, remote controls. apparently IR transmitting remotes cause interference when placed near a guitar pickup...every remote has a different sound, kinda like snowflakes.

2/23/2008 1:01:04 AM

^x6

Quote :

"it's a matter of opinion, dipshit. I can't be wrong."

XSMP

Wrong again. To say you don't like the EBow is an opinion, to say you don't use it is a choice. But to say you can't find a use for the EBow is simply lazy, and to say that the EBow is "useless" is just flat fucking wrong--"dipshit."

Quote :

"after reading the list of musicians that used the ebow, i am even more sure of myself here - most of those artists/ songs are either unknown, or suck - sure, there are a few exceptions, like metallica, but ya know, those songs would have been better without the ebow anyways."

XSMP

A "few exceptions"? You can't be fucking serious. Here are just a few of the big names that you conveniently overlooked (I'll bold them so you can see better):

Alice In Chains
Anthrax
Big Country (bagpipes can be reproduced on electric guitar using the EBow. Yeah, that'll never sell.)
The Black Crowes
Blind Melon
Blondie
Blue Oyster Cult
David Bowie
The Cars
Collective Soul
Phil Collins
The Cranberries
The Cure
Def Leppard
Depeche Mode
Dream Theater
Duran Duran
Faith No More
Van Halen
Heart
Elton John
King's X
Missing Persons
Oasis
Pearl Jam
Pink Floyd
The Psychedelic Furs
Queen
R.E.M
Radio Head
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
U2
Steve Vai
Violent Femmes
Frank Zappa



In any event, I didn't come here for an argument. But you are clearly wrong and any rational person viewing this thread knows it--why don't you just let this one go and we can move on, okay?

2/23/2008 2:22:40 AM

Notice that he said "most of those artists/songs suck."

That Van Halen song fucking sucks. The Bowie stuff that uses Ebow consists almost entirely of little flourishes that Reeves Gabrels threw on to recent Bowie records...pass. The Ebow is mixed so low on "My Iron Lung" that it might as well be something else. Depeche Mode is a keyboard band, and everything they do with single guitar lines is an experiment. And then there's that bastion of musical integrity, Steve "I can masturbate and play a soulless solo simultaneously" Vai. I could go on, but there's no point.

It's a neat gadget, but that's all.

2/23/2008 7:28:32 AM

fucking thank you. it is useless. not that im lazy - i owned one, and don't think i didn't try to be creative with it. i have only seen the ebow used live successfully a couple of times, and it is NOT GROUNDBREAKING. OH WOOPTY DOO, SINGLE NOTE RUN, WOOOOOOOOOOO!

2/23/2008 9:03:59 AM

So I'm somewhere in the beginner to intermediate level and need to purchase a new guitar. I've been looking at this:



Epiphone Les Paul Custom

Any opinions on this particular guitar? I wanna get something good that will last me for a while, without spending thousands of dollars.

2/23/2008 1:29:18 PM

for the money, i think you could do better than epiphone.

Price: $599.99 - $649.00 for that^

http://TinyLNK.com/TTZOW4
http://TinyLNK.com/WH36LJ

2/23/2008 3:06:17 PM

yeah go LTD before Epiphone

2/23/2008 3:24:02 PM