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"Meanwhile, he did say that the reporters in front of him should be shot, so..."

That's just Trump being Trump! LOL!

11/4/2024 11:32:16 AM

Hey hey hey that's not fair he didn't say they SHOULD be shot, he said he WOULDN'T MIND if they were shot!!

11/4/2024 2:12:23 PM

Important distinction.

11/4/2024 4:18:51 PM

https://evebarlow.substack.com/p/endless-compassion

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"Americans want to think about identity less. Not more. So that means we have to change how we approach this. Inverting the hierarchy of oppression is out. Mutual respect and seeing each other’s humanity is in."

[Edited on November 9, 2024 at 1:07 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2024 1:05:10 PM

Quote :

"Kristen Welker: "Some Democrats behind the scenes quietly talking about the possibility, should Justice Sotomayor step down...Do you think she should step down?" Sen. Bernie Sanders: "No, I don't." Welker: "Have you heard any talk of this?" Sanders: "A little bit, yes." Kristen Welker: "And you don't think it's a sensible approach?" Sanders: "Correct.""

11/10/2024 5:18:21 PM

Something would go wrong procedurally and then Trump would make it a 7-2 split instead of the current 6-3.

11/10/2024 5:44:51 PM

if there is a wrong decision to be made this current crop of democrats will make it

11/10/2024 6:43:28 PM

https://bsky.app/profile/pwnallthethings.bsky.social/post/3l7eghs34p42g

Maybe a different way to say billionaires shouldn’t exist

11/10/2024 10:21:34 PM

I agree, making me sign into an app is an excellent sign of the negative influence of billionaires

11/10/2024 10:57:25 PM

Threads was getting too mainstream

11/10/2024 11:04:39 PM

https://www.instagram.com/stories/aoc/3499332479435933092

AOC confronts woke culture

11/11/2024 9:30:32 PM

this could all end if AOC and Elon would just get on a livestream and duke it out.

[Edited on November 11, 2024 at 9:55 PM. Reason : with a handshake and a hug at the end, naturally]

11/11/2024 9:55:27 PM

I think she needs to stage a coup

Pelosi and Schumer will never accept her. She needs to find a way to just take over the dnc. Start just going on cnn as the spokesperson for the democrats

11/11/2024 10:14:23 PM

Going to get banned from X. This could unite the left and right!



Doesn't really look like her.

[Edited on November 11, 2024 at 10:58 PM. Reason : A]

11/11/2024 10:57:48 PM

ChatGPT, make it more unifying

11/11/2024 11:10:23 PM

^^That doesn't look like her at all.

11/12/2024 5:29:31 AM

11/16/2024 9:32:53 AM

along those lines, data on what the last however many pages of this thread have been saying:

-inflation was a killer
-progressive social policies and rhetoric are far out of step and pushing people away

https://www.ft.com/content/73a1836d-0faa-4c84-b973-554e2ca3a227?fbclid=IwY2xjawGlrHpleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHWjPE1DDZaqPdIfj3K3RFKbkWlgX-lYf8RO7GRkqv24Jlay5XLYq36jA-A_aem_qPPMQZerTyW0zAQiITvfRw

11/16/2024 11:54:02 AM

Piketty says to eat the rich (paraphrasing)

https://theconversation.com/is-inequality-a-natural-phenomenon-thomas-piketty-argues-it-isnt-and-proposes-a-way-forward-240325

11/18/2024 8:49:24 PM

Adam schiffs opening position is that trumps court cases should be deferred for 4 years

Democrats should be calling for trumps trials to all move forward and use the 25th amendment in case trump needs to serve jail time

They should be proposing weekend jail just to create a media cycle about it

Instead they just retreat preemptively to a position that really doesn’t even make sense and probably doesn’t even have a legal basis for.

11/25/2024 1:00:24 AM

^It's over. Not fair, and I don't like it, but America said they didn't care about any of that. He's above the law.

Trying to do what you said wouldn't work, and would certainly inflame.

11/25/2024 7:04:48 AM

^^ are you high, drunk, or both?
He's managed to successfully stall otherwise slam-dunk cases for over 2 years now, but you think you can get it to trial, no less conviction in less than 2 months? Dude majes a single, frivolous motion to dismiss based on being President-elect and the shit is pushed into February, minimum.

And, even in this fanciful scenario where you get the impossible, you think he serves a minute of jail time past January 20th when he fucking pardons himself? Whatever you are on right now, put it down and seek help.

11/25/2024 10:20:19 PM

^
Obv no chance of a trial. But force trump to go through the motion to cancel it and play it up as corrupt and self dealing

11/26/2024 1:26:53 AM

So we should make it even easier for him to break norms so that future leaders and courts can point to his norm-breaking as valid precedent?

11/26/2024 9:17:01 AM

^^ but to what end? Anyone who would have a problem with the self-dealing is already apalled by the crime spree that preceded it. It's a waste of time and taxpayer dollars.

At this point, Dems should be focused on cleaning house, dropping the and disavowing the crazies in their party and coming up with same and nuanced positions on issues. Donald Trump is a hot, steaming pile of garbage, and the country knows it at this point. The country voted him in anyway, and that speaks mountains about what it thinks about Democrats right now. That should be issue #1 for the party

11/26/2024 12:54:57 PM

Who are some of the more prominent "crazies" in the Democrat party and why?

AOC? Illian? Bernie?

11/26/2024 2:23:02 PM

The crazies who sat by and allowed the Facebook and Twitter algorithms to prioritize right wing content in the months leading up to the election, obviously

11/26/2024 2:53:00 PM

Dems should just do what repubs did to obama and be the party of no. Let repubs own everything and only bipartisan stuff are the few occasions a few repubs with courage break with what Trump wants

11/26/2024 8:40:06 PM

^^^^
Democrats need to be constantly controlling the news cycles and narratives

Trump is great at flooding the zone with nonsense just to keep people talking about him, they need to do every gimmick they can to break through this

11/26/2024 10:24:16 PM

Quote :

" The ‘moderates’ got *their* candidate in every single election in which the Republicans nominated Trump: 2016 Clinton, 2020 Biden, 2024 Harris… and they lost to Trump two out of three times. And now they’re going to blame *the left* for that? No f*cking way." My rant:"

https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1861609369562910999?s=46

11/26/2024 10:24:34 PM

Another way to look at that is the one year the dems won, they put up a candidate that didn't scare enough of america to win

11/26/2024 10:28:03 PM

^^ lol, that is an absolutely hilarious take on those two losses.

11/26/2024 11:42:36 PM

^conversely, it could be said that in 2008 and 2012, the moderate republican got nomination, and they lost both. So if you combine 2008/2012/2016/2024, you could say moderate candidates are 0-4. Only outlier is 2020. Which was a moderate candidate in an outlier year.

11/27/2024 12:46:24 AM

Obama and Clinton are pretty dang moderate, they just aren't white men

11/27/2024 10:25:48 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/29/seth-moulton-trans-democrats-word-police/

Agree with a lot if not all of this.

11/29/2024 8:17:03 PM

You got a gift link? Not gonna subscribe to WP for that.

11/30/2024 12:27:27 AM

https://wapo.st/3Ow6XHH

Not sure how it works if multiple ppl view

11/30/2024 12:34:11 AM

Not sure where to put this, but the internet is alight with people snickering about the CEO that got shot

Kinda hints that eat the rich might be good politics

12/5/2024 5:27:11 PM

first party to endorse "it's ok to murder whoever you think is to blame for your grievances" wins

12/5/2024 5:47:37 PM

^^ been fascinating to see both left and right accounts have that same sentiment.

Should really read True Believer if you have not.

Quote :

"Hoffer argues that mass movements are broadly interchangeable even when their stated goals or values differ dramatically.[1] This makes sense, in the author's view, given the frequent similarities between them in terms of the psychological influences on its adherents. Thus, many will often flip from one movement to another, Hoffer asserts, and the often shared motivations for participation entail practical effects. Since, whether radical or reactionary, the movements tend to attract the same sort of people in his view, Hoffer describes them as fundamentally using the same tactics including possessing the rhetorical tools. "

[Edited on December 5, 2024 at 6:15 PM. Reason : A]

12/5/2024 6:10:44 PM

^ I was noticing that

Populism is easy and primal but not always practical and sustainable

It’s trumps biggest weakness— you can win easily with a populist message but it will eventually collapse. Bernie has a similar problem if he were to ever win

It’s why I think AOC perfectly threads the needle. She came in as a strong populist but also knows how to work within the machine

12/5/2024 9:23:13 PM

she's nowhere near ready



[Edited on December 5, 2024 at 10:22 PM. Reason : if in december 2024 she's not actively denouncing DSA, then what good is she.]

12/5/2024 10:21:55 PM

she has done so many great things for her district

12/6/2024 7:45:59 AM

^^
DSA does good work in Raleigh— far more ground work than the democratic party itself. They’re not going to shift the Overton window back by embracing centrism

A good example is the stimmies… this is a deeply socialist policy that a lot of dumb people cited as their reasoning for supporting trump. DSA is heavily focused on economic issues too far more than social issues

Also she needs to be true to herself too, that’s what people like to think they’re seeing

12/6/2024 6:41:56 PM

Quote :

" DSA does good work in Raleigh— far more ground work than the democratic party itself. They’re not going to shift the Overton window back by embracing centrism"

would love to know what intel you have on that one

I’ve only heard the exact opposite from people who once were members of the DSA in Raleigh

the NC Democratic Party has been doing pretty goddamn great, considering everything they’re up against

12/7/2024 2:39:19 AM

I see them doing a lot of drives online to stop evictions, and they’re usually the ones who organize local protests during the child separation and blm days

12/7/2024 6:26:59 PM

Kari Lake as head of Voice of America is a fucking nightmare. Would be nice if the Dems had done literally anything to prevent AGM's use as a personal propaganda arm of the administration when they had control of Congress, especially after seeing what Michael Pack tried to do. I guess they had more important things to do than protect democracy

12/12/2024 3:44:18 PM

Yeah, like fundraise to lose (with a lot of money).

12/12/2024 9:10:53 PM

-10 million on bouncing AOC

12/17/2024 2:56:17 PM

Same people that got us into this mess too

12/17/2024 6:58:47 PM