Quote :

" You forget that the anecdotes he cherry picks make his arguments infallible."

I've actually been able to see the anecdotes you hacks pick get debunked as hoaxes in realtime on TWW, it has been very entertaining.

Some of my first "political" posts were in the hoaxes half of you gullible morons fell for regarding clock boy and the Mizzou BS. Most recently it's been even funnier though... we had the Anti-semitism "spike" get debunked as a leftist fake news journalist faking tons of bomb threats. I even predicted the burnt black church with the "VOTE TRUMP" painted on it, that one was as obvious as it gets and all of you hacks wouldn't believe it.

If you want me to actually google some right wing sites that would track a complete list I'm sure I could get you 1000 or so, but the fact that you won't even acknowledge the same anecdotes you post are debunked as hoaxes tells me you are beyond reasoning with.

[Edited on March 21, 2017 at 6:42 PM. Reason : .]

3/21/2017 6:42:33 PM

This kind of stuff is what gets me through the work day.

3/21/2017 7:20:51 PM

https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/844324702327918594

Trump was right again. Sad (or sick) guy!

3/21/2017 7:32:13 PM

Rubio, Conway, Huckabee, hannity and more all made comments on record before and after the election that being under FBI investigation made Hilary unfit. We'll see how they weasel out of this.

And at Trumps rally in Kentucky he said he forced keystone to buy American steel which of course is a lie.

3/21/2017 10:06:02 PM

So Manafort was extremely compromised, and horribly corrupt. Flynn may have been compromised. And the investigation is still going on to find out what level of communication Roger Stone had with Russian hackers, and more importantly, Trump. The Manafort revelations alone could be the thread that unravels the whole thing, bet so can Stone.

I honestly didn't think in the beginning there would be serious ties between trump and Russia but it's looking like this isn't the case anymore.

Makes me rethink my initial thoughts about the dossier released. Will be interesting to see where this goes.

[Edited on March 21, 2017 at 11:55 PM. Reason : ]

3/21/2017 11:54:29 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/22/rex-tillerson-i-didnt-want-this-job?CMP=share_btn_tw

Here's an interesting little tidbit... Trump and Tillerson had never met before Trump asked him to be Sec State, Tillerson didn't even want the job and was shocked at the offer. Who put this idea into Trump's head I wonder? Since Tillerson does have extensive dealings with Russia energy companies, and an ease in sanctions would be very, very lucrative for Russia especially.

I think it's very easy to believe Tillerson was maneuvered into place to make it more likely Russia could secure more energy export deals.

3/22/2017 12:48:16 AM

They should hold the supreme court nomination approval until after the investigation is over

3/22/2017 6:18:25 AM

WSJ went rogue on Trump.

Murdoch shook over Sky deal. Bad time for him to lose Murdoch..

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 6:20 AM. Reason : Sky deal is why "Judge" Nap is gone too. They didn't suddenly find morality.]

3/22/2017 6:19:51 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/21/health/opioid-trump-supporter-medicaid-health-care-reform/index.html
Last year, Kraig Moss sold the equipment for his construction business in upstate New York and stopped making mortgage payments so he could follow Donald Trump on the campaign trail.

The amateur country crooner sang pro-Trump ditties while strumming a guitar emblazoned with Trump campaign stickers, earning him the moniker "Trump Troubadour."
International media dubbed him "the voice of unheard America."
But now, Moss refuses to play the guitar with the Trump decorations. He's soured on the President because of the newly proposed Republican health care bill.
That legislation, which the president supports, could result in dramatic cuts in addiction treatment services.
Three years ago, Moss found his son, Rob, dead in his bed from a heroin overdose. He was 24.
"The bill is an absolute betrayal of what Trump represented on the campaign trail," he said. "I feel betrayed."

3/22/2017 8:58:54 AM

^^what's Sky Deal?

3/22/2017 10:23:16 AM

Fox (Murdoch) is trying to take over Sky. It's been sent to regulators in the U.K. government for approval.

Obviously a network accusing British intelligence of falseties would not sit well with the U.K. government.

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 10:33 AM. Reason : D]

3/22/2017 10:32:35 AM

gotcha. hadn't heard of it before.

3/22/2017 10:33:28 AM

Looks like an attack of some sort in London. Gonna be an interesting day to see how POTUS reacts.

(Limited information still)

3/22/2017 10:54:30 AM

^from BBC:

Quote :

"Politicians and journalists have tweeted about hearing loud crashes outside the buildings, as witnesses said they saw people being treated for injuries."

I'll wait until the authorities release a statement. Until then, it's just going to be a shitload of wrong information from "witnesses" and journalists.

3/22/2017 10:56:34 AM

http://www.wral.com/manafort-s-plan-to-greatly-benefit-the-putin-government-/16599389/

Check the comments... it's a alot of "This is Fake News!" to "This isn't a big deal" to "Hillary!"

3/22/2017 11:33:39 AM

cuckolded by a russian agent

sad!

3/22/2017 11:49:01 AM

bad! gave her the EASY D!

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 12:32 PM. Reason : a]

3/22/2017 12:32:51 PM

Really disappointed in all the golf and trips to Mar A Lago so far.

3/22/2017 12:57:38 PM

Did you seriously think he wouldn't golf all day???

3/22/2017 1:03:05 PM

He made such a big deal about Obama's golf trips, I figured it would be at least 2 years before making those statements hypocritical.

3/22/2017 1:14:04 PM

Of the things to be disappointed with that is so far down on the list it's amazing. I'm GLAD these guys do that. It's a stressful job and if that helps them, good.

3/22/2017 1:18:23 PM

mar-a-lago being an obvious pay-to-play scheme is pretty disgusting

3/22/2017 1:25:47 PM

hard to be disappointed if you know a con-man/bullshitter as soon as they open their mouth

3/22/2017 1:47:25 PM

Nunes just held a presser by himself to say an anonymous source (leak) told him that Trump's transition team and possibly Trump himself were incidentally caught on surveillance by intelligence.

Three questions or thoughts:

1) Isn't this obvious if they reach out to foreign leaders (which is their job to do) who are always under surveillance?

2) Even though this doesn't mean Trump's tweets were correct he will absolutely claim this as some sort of vindication.

3) Nunes was PART of the transition team. How can he be the head of the Intel committee given that fact.

3/22/2017 1:48:17 PM

I guess Nunes is okay with leakers in this instance but not in any other instance.

1) It should absolutely be obvious.
2) Yep, it's unfortunate. Thanks a lot Nunes.
3) I did NOT know this. Now I wonder what BS he was involved with in regards to this topic. All the more reason for a completely independent investigation.

GOP = Government of Putin

Quote :

""This is a normal, incidental collection, based on what I could collect," Nunes said today. "This appears to be all legally collected foreign intelligence under FISA." "I'm actually alarmed by it," Nunes said."

Alarmed by what? What the contents were or the fact that it was incidentally collected based on legal FISA activity?

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 2:37 PM. Reason : a]

3/22/2017 2:34:55 PM

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-rep-devin-nunes-named-to-trump-s-1478893307-htmlstory.html

3/22/2017 2:38:07 PM

Ah, okay. I was confusing his campaign team with transition team.

I still think it's enough of a conflict in general that he shouldn't be involved, but honestly speaking, I'm not as worried about him if his involvement was strictly with the transition team.

3/22/2017 2:46:10 PM

it's looking more and more like Nunes has absolutely has no idea what he's doing

apparently he went rogue and didn't inform anybody on the Intelligence Committee what he was going to do

3/22/2017 3:09:21 PM

To be fair, Nunes said there was absolutely no wiretapping and it didn't come from Trump Tower.

Trump's quote saying he was "vindicated" was the obvious goal of almpr this and it still doesn't make sense.

Does the GOP understand Pence can sign bills too?

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 3:29 PM. Reason : This can't be worth it to them]

3/22/2017 3:29:22 PM

Quote :

"This can't be worth it to them"

it's pretty obvious at this point that they have absolutely no idea what they're doing, other than placating Trump

and the ones who do know are cynically using him to pass their far right agenda

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 3:33 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2017 3:32:07 PM

very big chance I'm wrong, but this could be the week that does him in

3/22/2017 4:12:21 PM

https://twitter.com/reaganbattalion/status/844641362385494016

Oh ffs. This was so set up.

3/22/2017 4:14:21 PM

Quote :

"Nunes said he was "very concerned" about whether U.S. intelligence agencies were spying on Trump. He briefed Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan before the news conference and went to the White House to share the information there afterwards."

So let me get this straight. He says it was all collected legally. But he says he's concerned they were spying on Trump.

The ONLY logical step from that is that if it was legal and it was spying on Trump then there was a reason for it.

I grow increasingly concerned about this guy running an investigation at this point.

3/22/2017 4:17:02 PM

Nunes statement makes trump look even worse though doesn't it?

And seems like Nunes is going to get himself in hot water since his actions were very different than normal procedure, which is going to again reflect poorly on Trump.

It's like they literally don't think anything through. It's funny Trump voters perceived this gross incompetence going back to the beginning of the campaign as being an "outsider" and maverick, when it was just stupidity.

3/22/2017 4:17:47 PM

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/doubting-the-congressman-in-charge-of-probing-trumps-russia-ties/520344/

3/22/2017 4:19:23 PM

Actually, it would be a problem if they unmasked his transition team on legally acquired intel. That would be a gross misuse of power.

But this does NOTHING to "vindicate" Trump. He lied. Got caught. And is now moving goalposts 5;345 miles down the road.

3/22/2017 4:22:26 PM

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

Quote :

"“I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored,” Nunes told reporters. “It looks to me like it was all legally collected, but it was essentially a lot of information on the president-elect and his transition team and what they were doing.”"

There is no fucking "but." You can't say "it was all legally collected" and then say "but there was a lot collected so that's bad."

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 4:29 PM. Reason : a]

3/22/2017 4:29:05 PM

^^ yeah if he just tipped surveillance activities of an on-going investigation for purely political reasons, this seems like it could be illegal, if not warrant a congressional censure.

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 4:41 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2017 4:41:38 PM

If it was a classified intelligence action, which I'm assuming it was since Comey would go no where near answering those types of questions on Monday, then it's a felony with consequences of 10 years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine. Nunes and Gowdy spouted that off at least 15 times each during Monday's hearing.

3/22/2017 4:55:37 PM

^

3/22/2017 5:22:47 PM

why do so many politicians let themselves get played by trump?

3/22/2017 6:03:19 PM

Quote :

"Adam Schiff questions Nunes' report Top Democrat on the House Intel Committee Adam Schiff says Devin Nunes' announcement that Trump's communications had been collected throws the investigation into "great doubt.""

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2017/03/22/adam-schiff-response-devin-nunes-trump-communications-report-sot.cnn

The fact that the top two people are at odds like this necessitates an independent investigation. This is utterly ridiculous.

3/22/2017 6:24:44 PM

What Nunes said compromises his role in the Russia investigation and an independent committee/prosecutor is needed. It does not vindicate Trump at all. It was incidental meaning Trump officials contacted known targets of surveillance. That isn't remotely the same as what Trump tweeted. It begs the question of just who were they talking to?

3/22/2017 6:26:16 PM

3/22/2017 2:46:10 PM - I say I'm not too worried about Nunes.
3/22/2017 4:17:02 PM - I begin worrying about Nunes.
3/22/2017 6:24:44 PM - Get rid of Nunes.

That sums up the last 4 hours or so for me.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/schiff-more-than-circumstantial-evidence-of-trump-russia-connection-904177219736

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 6:35 PM. Reason : a]

3/22/2017 6:33:37 PM

What are the chances Nunes made all of this up to "vindicate" trump's tweets (that's what they'll claim)? The FBI may not be in a position to refute (they need Justice dept approval) for some time, Nunes didn't share with other cmte members because he has no evidence. They limped along using that "wiretapp" tweetstorm as a distraction/crutch for 2 weeksish, maybe they are hoping to stretch it another 2?

Believing that requires the assumption that the FBI is very close to arresting someone.

The only reason I question it is he was literally bitching about illegal leaks 2 days ago and the 2nd thing he does is call a press conference? No one is that stupid.

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 7:07 PM. Reason : ???]

3/22/2017 6:59:42 PM

Nunes is like the DA who tells a potential defendant what they have on them.

3/22/2017 7:03:02 PM

And the Democrats are Mike Nifong.

3/22/2017 10:28:29 PM

Is McCain a democratic too? And Comey?


[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 10:37 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2017 10:36:56 PM

Quote :

"we had the Anti-semitism "spike" get debunked as a leftist fake news journalist faking tons of bomb threats"

And when did that happen? Because of the 100+ bomb threats, 14 of them involved places where friends of mine work and teach. You want to go tell the panicked parents and preschoolers that the threats didn't actually happen, that the media just made it up?

3/23/2017 2:17:03 AM

Several (maybe all) of the February bomb threats were allegedly made by this man, a former reporter for The Intercept:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/03/03/missouri-man-charged-wave-bomb-threats-jewish-community-centers/98683620/

However, what JCE#s likes to overlook is that this guy hasn't been tied to Jewish graveyard desecrations or the threats made after the above's apprehension. But that doesn't fit his narrative.

3/23/2017 7:37:14 AM