IT'S NOT THE POLITICIAN, IT'S THE IDEA!!!

5/22/2012 5:53:50 PM

That's pretty accurate. No one can really accuse Ron Paul of creating a cult of personality. He's a relatively shitty public speaker. He's not attractive, he's old, and he's really not even persuasive. He just happens to be the only guy that has a proven record in politics of standing up for several ideas whose time has come: an end to imperialism, an end to the debt-based economy, an end to drug prohibition, etc. He's not the best messenger. Better messengers will arise in the years to come, and in fact better messengers have already been elected to office.

Ron Paul, like most people, can be pretty weird. He doesn't have a 500 dollar haircut. He hasn't been groomed for public office from birth like Mitt Romney. Sometimes his suits don't fit properly. The thing that sets him apart is that he clearly isn't bullshitting, and in a political climate where bullshittery is basically a pre-requisite, that is very significant. Even if you hate Ron Paul and everything he stands for, he clearly means what he says. People can sense genuineness.

5/22/2012 6:26:42 PM

Your words have fallen upon deaf ears, my friend. They are not interested in understanding.

5/22/2012 7:07:48 PM

^^ He clearly DOES believe what he says. That is refreshing; I'll give you that.

But if you're on the fringe, even if you mean every word, you're still on the fringe.

5/22/2012 7:14:45 PM

Has anyone ever seen a Romney 2012 bumper sticker? I've seen Ron Paul and Obama, but never once a Romney one.

5/22/2012 7:50:21 PM

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"No one can really accuse Ron Paul of creating a cult of personality"

name ONE position where you or other devout followers disagree with Ron Paul.

Ron Paul the man may not have created a cult of personality, but Ron Paul the brand most certainly has created a cult following.

5/22/2012 7:55:28 PM

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"Has anyone ever seen a Romney 2012 bumper sticker? I've seen Ron Paul and Obama, but never once a Romney one."

Actually, yes. My coworker has one. But to be fair, at one point, he also had a picture of GWB in his cubical.

5/22/2012 8:17:39 PM

^ good god

5/22/2012 8:19:19 PM

^^ doublefacepalmallthewayyeahyeah

5/22/2012 8:38:43 PM

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"But if you're on the fringe, even if you mean every word, you're still on the fringe."

Being on the fringe isn't inherently bad. If you're "mainstream" in the United States, you're actually pretty extreme by non-U.S. standards. The position that we shouldn't bomb any country that is a threat to U.S. corporate interests is, in the context of U.S. politics, an extreme position. The position that we shouldn't incarcerate innocent people is considered extreme in the United States. The position that we should have a balanced budget is, without a doubt, a fringe position in the U.S., and even the most ardent "fiscal conservatives" in the GOP leadership are not advocating a balanced budget.

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Many of history's most revered heroes were fringe in their active years. There is nothing courageous about shilling for the status quo.

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"name ONE position where you or other devout followers disagree with Ron Paul. Ron Paul the man may not have created a cult of personality, but Ron Paul the brand most certainly has created a cult following."

I don't agree with his position on abortion. A fetus that is not viable without the mother is not a life and should not be afforded the same protections as a human being. I may agree with him that abortion should not be regulated at the federal level, but I would argue against it being regulated at the state or local level as well.

I don't agree with his position on evolution. Evolution and creationism are not compatible. Creationism should never be taught in any public school.

There are probably other areas, but that's not really the point. The point is that Ron Paul is the only actual choice in this election cycle. Picking between Obama and Romney is not a choice. There will be no significant changes of policy regardless of who is elected. I'm of the opinion that U.S. domestic and foreign policy is deeply flawed, and in many areas we need to see a complete reversal. Yes, it's extreme, but anyone capable of rational thought should be able to see that our trajectory leads to a very dark place.

[Edited on May 22, 2012 at 9:25 PM. Reason : ]

5/22/2012 9:24:20 PM

You listed all the sane things Paul advocates as if they're considered fringe.

Fringe would be getting rid of the fed, privatizing everything and getting rid of the FDA, EPA, etc., etc.

5/22/2012 9:35:39 PM

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"Fringe would be getting rid of the fed, privatizing everything and getting rid of the FDA, EPA, etc., etc."

We could get into why all of those things are sane, and we have many times on this forum. The federal reserve system isn't helping anyone except elite bankers. The purpose of the Fed was to serve as a source of cheap credit for industry insiders. Without the Fed, banks that overextend just fail. That is a far preferable outcome to having a system-wide crisis.

I know Ron Paul has said that environmental protection is under the purview of the federal government, but the EPA hasn't exactly been a good vehicle to prevent pollution.

The FDA...lol. Where to start. People die every year because the FDA is holding back drugs to protect corporate monopolies. On the other side, the FDA approves unsafe drugs all the time which people become addicted to. The FDA is heavily influenced by big pharma, just like the USDA is controlled by various MNCs. It's not a "given" that we need these federal departments. In nearly every case, federal departments are co-opted by the worst corporate offenders.

[Edited on May 22, 2012 at 10:13 PM. Reason : ]

5/22/2012 10:09:09 PM

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"n an attempt to gain control of the state Republican party, Ron Paul supporters have turned out in droves to file for GOP precinct committee officer races this year, according to Cowlitz County and state party officials. In years past, party officials were usually happy to get just one person to file for each of the precinct slots. But of the 55 open Republican PCO seats in Cowlitz County this year, 36 are contested. By comparison, only four of 27 Democratic PCO seats are challenged. State Republican officials said they saw the same thing all over Washington during last week's filing period. "We've never seeing this kind of interest," said Kirby Wilbur, chairman of the state Republican Party. He said he's excited to see the increased interest but also is tracking down a handful of reports of fraudulent filings. Read more: http://tdn.com/news/local/ron-paul-supporters-seeking-control-of-state-gop/article_40005cba-a48f-11e1-b7a0-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1vfi4V2x4 "

Unlike Wolfmarsh, I didnt bold the sentence because of the typo, but because of the significance of change between this election and past elections.



[Edited on May 23, 2012 at 2:32 AM. Reason : .]

5/23/2012 2:29:07 AM

^^ You can argue all day, but the fact remains that they're fringe ideas and the vast majority of voters want nothing to do with them.

Also, I doubt you'll find a single person that thinks the aforementioned agencies are doing a fantastic job. That's no reason to get rid of them. Restructure and fix what's broken? Absolutely.

[Edited on May 23, 2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason : ]

5/23/2012 10:38:43 AM

Ah, yes. Let's reform the system. We'll just need to find some altruistic, unbiased, and honest people to make it happen.

[Edited on May 23, 2012 at 10:45 AM. Reason : ]

5/23/2012 10:45:11 AM

Vocabulary for JaZon:


Eleutherophobia - The fear of freedom

5/23/2012 11:20:46 AM

why would anyone fear freedom? i just don't get it.

5/23/2012 12:25:31 PM

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"Ah, yes. Let's reform the system. We'll just need to find some altruistic, unbiased, and honest people to make it happen."

Or, let's get rid of the system and let those same non-existant people rule without limits

5/23/2012 12:40:21 PM

^^Posted May 23, 2012

by Andrea Dantzer

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" Eleutherophobia is the fear of freedom, derived from the Greek word eleuthero, which literally means to be free. So, why do Americans seem to have this irrational fear of freedom? Although it does extend farther back then September 11, 2001, this fear seemed to be sharpened or heightened at that point in our nation’s history. Many people, before then, had wrapped themselves in blankets of complacency, while the economy wasn’t great, it wasn’t horrible, no major world events were shaking them from their everyday lives at that time and the militarization of America was still in its infancy. However, as the planes hit the towers, the confidence of Americans imploded right along with them. No longer did we feel safe in our own homes and most people were willing to surrender their freedoms in the name of safety. It was easy to justify that it was for their own good and well-being. The Patriot Act was and still is the biggest example of this phenomenon and it has continued unheeded and unchecked today. The fear of terrorism was fueled by blatant falsehoods perpetuated by the mainstream media, which just happens to be owned by the same corporations raking in billions by the wars they are promoting. And, just like when the strike against Pearl Harbor occurred, every Japanese looking individual in an instant became the perceived enemy of the state, no matter if they were born in this country or not, no matter if they were Americans or not. They looked like the enemy, therefore they were the enemy. Many Muslims and individuals of Arab descent have spoke about the terror they experienced after 9/11 as many of them were beat down or terrorized in their own home, simply for looking like the enemy the television convinced people existed. In just eleven short years, we have seen the erosion of countless rights, all in the name of keeping us “safe”. And, many Americans continue to blindly accept that it is for their own good. War is and always will be the biggest threat to our freedom and this country has reveled in one war or another, from the War on Terrorism to the War on Drugs, there always seems to be something that our government has declared war against, and each and every time they do, it is to the detriment of our freedom and liberty. The blame lies evenly across the board, whether the policy has came left, right or center, Americans have only offered cursory murmuring in response. While the attack that took place on 9/11 did not create the war on freedom, it has certainly intensified it. When you are committed to individual freedom and liberty, it also must include protecting the rights of individuals you may hate or disdain, as long as they are not infringing on the right of others, and it is that responsibility that Americans fear the most to the most irrational and extreme levels. This country is ripe for cultural, racial, gender and sexual orientation wars as people are no longer allowed to be individuals, rather, they are now some label or another. Americans have sacrificed individualism for the lie of the collective while handing their individual rights over. While there is and always will be an irate, tireless minority fueling the fires of freedom, for the most part, this surrender has happened voluntarily. Now, it is considered not only naive and weak, but akin to an act of terrorism to suggest that Americans should care about the rights of individuals who the government has classified as terrorists or aiding and abetting in terrorism whether they were falsely accused or not. Now, if the government declares you to be a terrorist, you are a terrorist, no trial, no due process, no innocent until proven guilty. No matter what excuse people give for justifying these beliefs, it always comes back to one thing – eleutherophobia – the fear of freedom. The price and responsibility of freedom is too great for all too many people. H.L. Mencken once stated, Most people want security in this world, not liberty.” And, his words ring true today more than they ever have before. Most people cannot accept the enormity of governing themselves, of truly owing their own person. All too often the illusion of freedom is sufficient enough. However, since 9/11's catalyst of the War on Freedom, even that illusion has been ripped away and people are still willing to surrender…because deep down, they are scared. Not scared of terrorism, not scared of drugs, not scared of war or the threat of war, not scared of cyber attacks – they are scared of themselves and the risk that is inherent with freedom. A nation of scared people can never be free. People can rail at the government all they want for the erosion of liberty, but at the end of the day, a nation gets the government they allow. Personal responsibility cannot be separated from individual liberty and individuals in this country have forgotten how to take responsibility for themselves. While a majority of people still believe they should be afforded the rights given to them by the Constitution, the problem is they believe it is the Constitution has given those rights to them. The Constitution was created by man, and if man is the one who gives you your rights, then it is man who can take them away. The concept that every human being is born with natural rights is lost in a country of fearful people and the Constitution is just another veil to hide behind rather than standing up and claiming the rights your humanity has deemed. Until people are willing to search deep and ask themselves if they are afraid of freedom, afraid to be free, the rampant case of eleutherophobia will continue unchecked and unavoidable."

http://spreadlibertynews.com/americans-and-their-rampant-case-of-eleutherophobia/

5/23/2012 12:57:25 PM

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"Or, let's get rid of the system and let those same non-existant people rule without limits"

There are still limits, they just aren't set by the corrupt federal government. The federal government has proven that when it sets limits, it does so for the benefit of its corporate clients, not for the purpose of consumer protection.

5/23/2012 1:10:16 PM

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The R[evol]ution will not be televised.

[Edited on May 28, 2012 at 10:14 PM. Reason : .]

5/25/2012 12:53:13 AM

Here are the facts:

It is not possible for Ron Paul to win the number of delegates needed to win the nomination at this point. The RNC will not allow a brokered convention; the old guys in the GOP establishment have spent years climbing the latter, and they will not allow some young whipper snappers to steal their hard-earned glory.

With that said, Ron Paul has been earning a considerable number of delegates - he will most likely have 300+ in Tampa. Additionally, Ron Paul supporters have been elected as state chairs of the GOP. There are quite a few Ron Paul-esque guys running for (and likely winning) seats in Congress.

The RP campaign for president is a single battle among many, many battles in an ongoing war. The libertarian wing is gaining ground, and we are not done.

There's a strong argument that the GOP cannot be reformed, and there's also a strong argument that the entire political system cannot be reformed. We need a resurgence of philosophy, as our system is based on allegedly "pragmatic" concerns, and it is a failed system. The initiation of force cannot be prevented or curtailed by the initiation of force; those that understand this logical certainty may be able to infiltrate the system.

5/25/2012 10:46:07 AM

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"Cybersecurity Act 2012, CISPA goes Undercover in the Senate May 25th, 2012 by Admin. Internet Censorship advocates in Congress continue their fight against the Constitution by creating a disguise for the recent House of Representatives-passed CISPA, under the name of Cybersecurity Act 2012, or S. 2105 in the Senate. The vote on the Cybersecurity Act is rumored to be occurring between May 28th, 2012, and June 1st, 2012, so action needs to be taken as soon as possible, as next week is a recess week for Congress. Any updates on this information will be posted here. http://livingnotsurviving.com/2012/05/25/cybersecurity-act-2012-cispa-goes-undercover-in-the-senate/ "

Get ready to lose our last source for uncensored information. The walls are closing in, inch by inch.

5/25/2012 12:05:36 PM

^^

5/25/2012 12:07:37 PM

So, will it be a conspiracy or simple selling out when he gets practically none of the delegates at the convention?

5/25/2012 12:18:26 PM

i'm starting to feel bad for destroyer. i may not agree with him on a host of issues....but at least there is a discussion to be had.

5/25/2012 12:20:42 PM

I'm sorry, but there is no such thing as selling out. True Ron Paul supporters cannot be bought.

5/25/2012 12:20:50 PM

conspiracy it is

5/25/2012 12:26:43 PM

Ah, so the modern version of "no true scottsman" is "no true paul supporter."

5/25/2012 12:56:26 PM

^^Whatever you say, Chief.

^sure, why not.

[Edited on May 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

5/25/2012 12:56:39 PM

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"i'm starting to feel bad for destroyer. i may not agree with him on a host of issues....but at least there is a discussion to be had."

Don't feel bad for me. I don't stress out about politics these days.

My goal is to encourage cultural change; politics is but one facet of society. There is a chance that partisan politics is an entirely useless vessel to bring about meaningful change, and that's fine. When people that defend non-violence, free markets, and individual rights are elected to office, they may be stonewalled and prevented from participating in the process. However, their election signals to me that there are people that understand and support their message, which I think bodes well for the future.

5/25/2012 1:34:15 PM

Ron Paul: Lawyers Confirm All Delegates Are Unbound

http://libertyvlogger.com/ron-paul/ron-paul-lawyers-confirm-all-delegates-are-unbound/

5/25/2012 5:05:48 PM

5/25/2012 10:52:45 PM

Worked for a little...

5/26/2012 8:05:48 AM

^ Ive sported my Ron Paul bumper sticker for over a year now, but it's definitely not quite that badass haha.

LOL at this whole Ron Paul "fringe" discussion. I can assure you that when you talk to people around the finance community none of his positions are considered fringe. Everyone knows we're screwed and he's he only one honest about it.

5/26/2012 8:11:38 AM

5/26/2012 4:41:45 PM

nice. i wonder if that was made by his actual campaign, and if he even gets the joke

5/26/2012 5:11:24 PM

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/27/mass-gop-move-invalidate-caucus-ballots/AA7spH6RjTT4Jz2F7JceMN/story.html

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"Mass. GOP moves to invalidate caucus ballots Ron Paul backers cry foul By Stephanie Ebbert May 28, 2012 Supporters of Ron Paul fear losing influence over the party platform at the Republican convention this summer in Tampa. A month after Mitt Romney’s loyalists were trounced by supporters of Ron Paul in the former governor’s home state caucuses, the Massachusetts Republican Party is trying to invalidate some ballots. The move, some say, could oust Paul backers and send more Romney representatives to the GOP nominating convention in Tampa in August. It has infuriated rank-and-file Republicans who accuse establishment insiders of bending the rules to their own benefit. “Just because you didn’t like the outcome of an election doesn’t mean you overturn it because you have the power to,’’ said a state committeeman, Stephen Zykofsky. Much of the ire is directed at a challenge in the Fifth Congressional District - where Romney lives and where all six of his selected delegates and alternates lost. A member of Romney’s slate contends the results should be thrown out because the caucus chairman failed to get all the participants to sign in. A 14-member GOP committee is expected to consider whether the results should be counted this week. Inflaming the situation is Republicans’ decision not to count provisional ballots in any district. The provisional ballots are those cast by voters whose registration could not be confirmed on April 28, the day of the caucuses. Paul supporters say it is a maneuver by the party to diminish their influence. Even if the factors change the makeup of the delegation that Massachusetts sends to the Republican National Convention in Tampa, they will not affect the Republican nomination for president. Based on Romney’s strong primary win in Massachusetts, the delegates to the convention are all committed to vote for him, and Paul has dropped out of contention. But it could weaken the voice of Paul supporters, who had hoped to influence the party platform. Ed McGrath, a Romney-backed nominee who lost in the Fifth District, is chairman of the committee that will take up the ballot challenge on Tuesday. He said last week the challenge in his district had nothing to do with manipulating the outcome, and, in an attempt to dispel that perception, he withdrew from consideration as a delegate. “I don’t think it’s an effort to get the Romney slate back on,’’ he said. “It certainly isn’t for me.’’ The delegates for the national convention were elected in caucuses held in each of the state’s congressional districts. Romney advertised his support for a slate of 54 delegates - three delegates and three alternates in each of the nine congressional districts. But Romney’s slate was overwhelmed by Paul supporters, who have been posting similarly strong showings in other states. In the Sixth Congressional District, the only one of Romney’s six nominees to prevail was state Senate minority leader Bruce E. Tarr, who won by just one vote. The losers included state House minority leader Bradley H. Jones Jr.; Kerry Healey, the former lieutenant governor; Sheriff Frank G. Cousins Jr. of Essex County; and Republicans’ most recent nominee for governor, Charles D. Baker. But the Massachusetts Republican Party has still not confirmed the results of the caucuses. A spokesman, Tim Buckley, previously told the Globe that the votes would not be official until the party’s allocation committee certified them and that the tallies remained uncertain because some voters’ eligibility could not be confirmed. Neither Buckley nor the party’s lawyer, Vincent DeVito, could be reached for comment. To participate in the caucuses, voters had to be registered as Republicans before Feb. 15. Those whose names did not appear on registration lists were allowed to cast provisional ballots and told their votes would be counted if they were proven eligible and if the election was narrow enough to make a difference. But last week, the party’s counsel began telling Republicans who were questioning the results that the provisional ballots would not be counted and that the rules had never allowed provisional ballots to be cast in the first place. That had some Republicans fuming: Why did the party print, distribute, and collect provisional ballots only to later tell voters who cast them that they were invalid? Heather Mellem, a 37-year-old Paul supporter from South Boston who lost in last month’s caucuses, said the outcome might have been different if provisional ballots were counted. “Now it’s time for Republicans to come together, and if they’re trying to unify the party, not counting the ballots is certainly not the way to do that,’’ Mellem said. “They’re going to only offend Ron Paul supporters and make them feel more excluded.’’ She and others objected to the notion that decisions affecting the results are being made by Republican leaders with interests in the outcome. DeVito, the party’s lawyer, is one of the Romney-backed delegates who won. Brad Wyatt, a Paul supporter and confirmed delegate, said there is a simple remedy: open the provisional ballots and count the votes that are valid. He acknowledged Paul’s supporters hope to influence the party platform at the convention and to press for a prime-time speech by Paul but said, “We are all committed to voting for Mitt Romney when we get down there. We’re not causing any trouble.’’ “Many of these guys are really excited about the Republican party,’’ Wyatt said. “But the Mass GOP is really walking a thin line here. They’re going to really upset a lot of people.’’ "

5/28/2012 7:23:27 PM

5/28/2012 10:03:57 PM

Is it going to be Rand Paul in 2016?

5/28/2012 11:15:11 PM

Ron Paul supporters don't generally like Rand Paul. Rand Paul is not consistent enough and/or doesn't say the right things like his father does

[Edited on May 28, 2012 at 11:36 PM. Reason : .]

5/28/2012 11:36:25 PM

Over a week ago, State Rep. Jon Hansen (Minnehaha County) openly endorsed the only “other” Republican running for president in 2012: Ron Paul, affirming that, “Ron Paul’s consistency and integrity goes unmatched in today’s political environment … (he) has the heart of a servant, looking to the best interest of all Americans rather than to his own self-interest … .”

The very next day, Rapid City Councilman Jordan Mason threw his endorsement for Congressman Paul by saying, “I stand for strong fiscal policy. I stand for solving our problems at home before we try to solve other countries’ problems abroad. I stand for liberty and I stand for the American dream. And so I stand behind Ron Paul.”

These were just two small South Dakota endorsements for a man who supposedly has “dropped out of the race.” But are there more waiting in the wings? And if he is no longer running, then why is he continually raising money from his supporters? And has, over the past several weeks, secured delegates at even more state conventions across the country? Is South Dakota next? Is Ron Paul on the rise … Again?

5/30/2012 4:10:26 PM

plz to embed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JpPQQjym8f0#!

5/30/2012 11:15:35 PM

that guy convinced me to buy a ron paul bumper sticker. he really seems to see the big picture.

5/30/2012 11:44:42 PM

He's the same guy responsible for Rony 2012. You should watch it, he did a very good job on it. Even if you don't like it, he put a lot of effort into it and should be watched.

5/30/2012 11:48:28 PM

http://www.policymic.com/articles/9163/louisiana-convention-results-ron-paul-delegates-arrested-as-they-command-majority

Ron Paul delegates took 27 of 46 delegate slots to go to the RNC from Louisiana. Some of his delegates were arrested, and the police broke some fingers.

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"“I’m handicapped! I need a doctor!” “Sir, this is the chairman!” The Louisiana State Republican Convention descended into chaos Saturday morning, with several delegates being arrested and the convention chairman being thrown to the ground by police. Sources report that state party officials panicked when it became clear that Ron Paul delegates commanded a decisive majority of the delegates on the floor – at least 111 of 180 (62%). The convention began peacefully with a prayer and invocation. Roger Villere, Chairman of the Louisiana Republican Party, then attempted to recognize the former Chair of the Convention’s Rules Committee who had been ousted from his position last night. When Alex Helwig, the newly elected Rules Committee chair, rose to address the delegation, Mr. Villere ordered him removed from the floor. Video footage shows Shreveport police dragging Mr. Helwig out of the room despite his protests that he was a duly elected delegate. At this point, a motion was made to elect a new convention chairman. Henry Herford, Jr., was elected by an overwhelming majority. Nevertheless, Mr. Villere – who had appointed himself the convention chairman – refused to relinquish control of the gathering. As the delegates began turning their chairs around, Mr. Herford, the newly elected chairman, rose to call the convention to order. Sources report that, in an act of desperation, Mr. Villere and state party officials then ordered police to attack Mr. Herford. Video footage shows an older gentleman in a blue shirt being violently dragged away by police and then shoved to the ground. When Mr. Herford protests that he is handicapped and would like to press charges for assault against the police officers, a Shreveport police officer is seen smirking in response. Sources report that Mr. Herford, 57, has a prosthetic hip that was dislocated during the assault. Many observers expressed shock that the establishment would resort to such violent tactics against fellow Republicans. Saturday morning’s incidents come on the heels of increasing panic among state party leaders in the aftermath of Ron Paul’s decisive victory in the Louisiana caucuses in April. For example, on Thursday night, the State Central Committee (SCC) of the Louisiana Republican Party voted to completely overhaul the existing convention rules. Fearful of a resounding Ron Paul victory, the SCC’s “supplemental rules” were designed to substantially weaken the authority of the State Convention, reportedly making it nothing more than a rubber-stamp for the dictates of state party insiders. While the state party insisted that the “supplemental rules” were unamendable and overrode the existing rules as well as Robert’s Rules of Order, legal observers remarked that the new rules were in material violation of the Rules of the Republican National Committee. According to RNC Rule 15(c)(12), “No delegates or alternate delegates shall be elected, selected, allocated, or bound pursuant to any Republican Party rule of a state or state law which materially changes the manner of electing, selecting, allocating, or binding delegates or alternate delegates… if such changes were adopted or made effective after October 1 of the year before the year in which the national convention is to be held.” After Convention Chairman Henry Herford’s arrest, the delegates proceeded to elect a new chair and continued with the business of the convention. They reportedly elected a slate of 27 Ron Paul supporters to fill 12 of the 18 district delegate slots and 15 of 20 at-large delegate slots, before certifying the results with the RNC. Meanwhile, state party leaders held their own convention in one corner of the room with about 30 delegates in attendance. Local media is reporting that the minority convention also elected a slate of delegates, although it is unlikely that the legitimacy of their slate will be recognized by the RNC. According to a statement released by the national Paul campaign, the newly elected delegates met with Scott Sewell, the Louisiana Chair of the Romney campaign, who said “he would do everything he could to make sure the delegation was seated.” The State Central Committee also met after the convention but reportedly disbanded due to lack of quorum. Opinions remain divided as to whether the convention chaos that has been witnessed at recent state conventions across the country is a result of a coordinated national effort by Republican party leaders to disenfranchise Ron Paul delegates. In both Maine and Nevada, for example, Romney supporters were caught distributing counterfeit delegate slates. In Arizona, there were complaints of ballot stuffing and the convention was eventually shut down when it appeared likely that a Ron Paul supporter would be elected as the national committeewoman. In Massachusetts, after Ron Paul supporters won 16 of 27 district delegate slots, state party leaders quickly moved to try to invalidate the results. In spite of the disorder at the Louisiana State Convention, many Republicans expressed satisfaction that they were able to select a strong delegation of constitutional conservatives to attend the national convention. “[This] proves that the Ron Paul Revolution is alive and well in the state of Louisiana,” said Shawn Wilson, 30, a state delegate from Louisiana’s 6th district."

http://youtu.be/ofnSb9l9rwQ

http://youtu.be/tgTpLOUxC6Q

6/3/2012 10:26:51 PM

6/4/2012 7:10:46 PM

Why isn't this making more news?


Why are the old guards standing there not willing to let us stop tyranny!

THIS COUNTRY ISN'T BEYOND SAVING!

6/4/2012 8:50:37 PM

LIVE on June 7th-9th at TX GOP State Convention.

Join us starting with Dr. Paul's speech at the TX State Convention at 3:45pm CST. We will be livestreaming the entire TX State Convention. As well as the Jordan Page concert with Dr. Paul speaking just a few miles from the Convention Thursday evening.


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/suriyahfish#

6/7/2012 2:42:31 PM

http://www.dailypaul.com/238185/live-stream-ron-paul-speech-texas-convention-concert-june-7-9

6/7/2012 3:14:59 PM