haven't seen this posted yet:

from http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=katz_andy#20060501

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"Wolfpack returnees keep working posted: Monday, May 1, 2006 | Feedback Fear not for the remaining NC State players. They are going to class. They are lifting weights. They are working out. Strength coach Charles Stephenson is handling the brunt of the workouts for these wayward players who have a school but no coaching staff to call their own. Managers are still around to shag rebounds and former Wolfpack players Jordan Collins, Tony Bethel, Cameron Bennerman and Ilian Evtimov are around to work out with the returnees. There technically are 11 players on the roster who could return next season, although Cedric Simmons declared for the NBA draft and isn't likely to return. Andrew Brackman is playing baseball, but so far there hasn't been any official word that he won't return next season. The university is in the midst of exam time so it won't be long before everyone splits. As for that coaching search thing, have you ever seen more coaches make public statements about not being involved in a job? The latest was Notre Dame's Mike Brey on Sunday. As of Saturday night, Xavier's Sean Miller hadn't been contacted. So, who knows, maybe he'll issue a statement soon saying he's not a candidate, either. The list of coaches who aren't candidates continues to grow."

5/1/2006 6:53:44 PM

screw the herb haters

5/1/2006 7:07:35 PM

we're fucked

5/1/2006 7:09:12 PM

i'd still take most of the people left over herb

5/1/2006 8:25:37 PM

Whittenberg, I just hope he doesn't turn us down after all of the shit we've been through.

5/1/2006 8:30:38 PM

Valuable time is being wasted here. When is the option of Fowler taking over for next season gonna be on the table?

5/1/2006 8:35:42 PM

^^Whittenberg is not an option.

It's looking like Lowe or Miller right now unless something comes out of the blue. I think we're waiting to see if Lowe can assemble a respectable staff, and if he can't, then it's Sean Miller (Lowe gets his degree from State in June...which is a requirement for us). Ford is our backup...seriously.

[Edited on May 1, 2006 at 8:44 PM. Reason : .]

5/1/2006 8:43:51 PM

do you mean sidney Lowe?

5/1/2006 9:25:15 PM

yeppers

5/1/2006 9:26:10 PM

where has he coached?

5/1/2006 9:26:56 PM

another coachless day

5/1/2006 9:28:03 PM

ok I think we've seen that enough asshole

5/1/2006 9:32:33 PM

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"where has he coached?"

The NBA...and failed miserably with the T-Wolves and Grizzlies. He's an assistant with the Pistons now though...which is a plus.

He's never coached a college game.

5/1/2006 9:39:23 PM

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"ok I think we've seen that enough asshole"

enough with the trains man

5/1/2006 9:41:53 PM

the fucking retarded ass herb haters never stopped their same ass boring mantra that anyone is better then herb. i am not going to stop.

i removed the larger picture, the thread size is unchanged, youre welcome.

[Edited on May 1, 2006 at 9:50 PM. Reason : -2.]

5/1/2006 9:49:50 PM

anyone got any rumors?

Josh# has us covered with the bullshit.

5/1/2006 10:48:18 PM

Sidney Lowe.

5/1/2006 10:49:56 PM

rick barnes

5/1/2006 11:20:25 PM

Quote :

"I heard Fowler was vacationing for the next three weeks...so he needed to form a seacrh committee to keep things going until he returns. Also heard that Les Robinson is going to be in charge until Lee returns...he's already making phone calls to our recent signees and potential recruits. Also heard that McCauley is running the team through daily conditioning drills and has taken on a leadership role this offseason."

ahahhahhahaahha... just got this off of packpride

5/1/2006 11:28:44 PM

^that is wrong on so many levels

a freshman running the team through drills, les robinson (who is the AD at citadel i think) running a search for nc state, and 3 weeks vacation in the middle of the coaching search

not gonna happen for lee!

5/1/2006 11:30:17 PM

^^ the troll is strong in that one

5/1/2006 11:36:12 PM

^^yeah i know it's fake, just thought it was original/funny

but seriously, i hope fowler gets fired

5/1/2006 11:38:54 PM

is it really a good idea to hire a coach that has never recruited a single player in his life, let alone never coached a single college game? that doesn't seem to make much sense. they should've gone after a strong mid major right off the bat instead of asking every coach with a "name." I can't remember a team in any sport having this many people turn them down for a head coaching position. looks like the herb supporters really did know what they were talking about

5/2/2006 8:47:24 AM

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"Sidney Lowe would be a better choice than Whitt right now. He has been in the NBA for like 5 years now so that would help greater. He has a good resume and was a coach on the court when he played."

I posted that on the previous page.

I would support Lowe over Whitt for the time being.

5/2/2006 8:52:22 AM

Someone post Lowe's bio if they have it.

5/2/2006 9:09:49 AM

Sidney Lowe's bio:

Sucked hard at Minnesota for 2 years.

Sucked hard at Vancouver (before they moved to Memphis I think) for 3 years.

Assistant at Detroit for the past 4 or 5 years.

Career winning percentage as a head coach is something like .275.

5/2/2006 9:23:05 AM

bio continued:

ZERO college coaching experience
really doesn't have any more pull with the recruits than you or I do
not a good role model for the kids
REALLY bad NBA coach

5/2/2006 9:29:22 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/seth_davis/05/01/ncstate/1.html

5/2/2006 9:31:56 AM

bahahahaha



Every candidate we go to makes Whittenberg look that much better.


Have the Whitt doubters started to like him more and more as well?

5/2/2006 9:46:52 AM

Lowe has coached in the NBA the last 10 years, how bad can he be?

You all said you wanted a black coach, Whitt's not gonna take it, hire Lowe then.

5/2/2006 9:48:30 AM

something like 300 losses as an NBA head coach, then a few years as an assistant

5/2/2006 9:49:29 AM

Who said Whitt's not going to take it?

5/2/2006 9:49:40 AM

Thank you Seth Davis:

Quote :

"In time, N.C. State will be able to overtake Duke and North Carolina, but it probably won't happen until after Roy Williams and Mike Krzyzewski are gone. It could be 10 years or more before that happens."

And Lowe is getting time to put together an assistant coaching staff that can help him transition to the "college game"...like Larry Harris and Pete Strickland.

5/2/2006 9:51:04 AM

Quote :

"Who said Whitt's not going to take it? "

It's not that he want take it...it's that it's not there for him to take.

5/2/2006 9:51:50 AM

because it was announced that there will be a coach hired by June, when the athletics caravan is taking place

and conveniently, Lowe is getting his degree in June

that was the only thing holding him back this whole time

5/2/2006 9:52:52 AM

That's it. I'm calling Gregg Marshal this afternoon after work and posing as an NC State official and offering him the job.

Stay tuned, I'll report my progress.

5/2/2006 9:55:19 AM

^^^I got that much I'm pissed we wont talk to him at least.

[Edited on May 2, 2006 at 9:56 AM. Reason : ]

5/2/2006 9:56:11 AM

Many of you worry too much about winning percentage...

I mean Gregg Marshall has been beating up on Radford, UNCA, Coastal Carolina, etc.

Sidney Lowe was coaching against the Lakers, Suns, Mavericks, Spurs, etc.

Plus Lowe is one of our own. He would UNITE the WHOLE fanbase or at least he should.

5/2/2006 9:57:41 AM

Quote :

"and conveniently, Lowe is getting his degree in June that was the only thing holding him back this whole time"

We're not going to wait until he gets his degree to announce. The fact that he is going to get his degree in June is enough.

I'd look for something late this week...early next week if everything works out.

5/2/2006 10:04:36 AM

Quote :

" Lowe has eyes for Pack Former State star interested in returning Chip Alexander, Staff Writer Sidney Lowe, who helped N.C. State win a national championship as a player in 1983, says he would like to have a chance to do the same as the Wolfpack coach. "Yeah, one day," he said Monday. "I'd definitely have interest in it one day. It's something I would hope would happen. It is my alma mater." Lowe, 46, is an assistant coach for the Detroit Pistons, who are seeking a second NBA title in three years. But with the Pack now a month into its search for a coach to replace Herb Sendek, Lowe's name is being mentioned as a solid candidate for the job. "My mind-set is totally on the Detroit Pistons and winning another championship," Lowe said. "That's the only thing I'm concerned with at this time." Lowe, who owns a house in Raleigh, acknowledged that he has talked with NCSU athletics director Lee Fowler but said it was only a "general discussion" about other candidates such as Memphis coach John Calipari, who has coached in the NBA. To hold a job such as head coach at NCSU requires a bachelor's degree from an accredited four-year institution. Lowe did not graduate from NCSU but said he was finishing up his degree work this month "at a very credible university." He declined to give additional details on his academic work at this time. Lowe played four seasons for NBA teams including the Charlotte Hornets and was a head coach at Minnesota and then Memphis. With both teams in rebuilding stages, Lowe went 33-102 with the Timberwolves and then 46-126 with the Grizzlies. He resigned at Memphis after the team's 0-8 start in the 2002-2003 season. Lowe has not coached in college but said the transition from the NBA -- for any pro coach -- would not be difficult. NBA teams, he said, have a good handle on the best high school players. "We have as many contacts with AAU coaches and high school coaches as they do on the collegiate level," he said. Fowler, in an interview Monday, said he would not address specific candidates but said he still was concentrating on those with head coaching experience. "We're still in that mode," he said. "I have not looked at anyone without head coaching experience. We have not looked at any who have only been assistants." Fowler added, "I guess that means Phil Ford." Ford, who played and then was an assistant coach at North Carolina and now is an assistant with the New York Knicks, spoke with NCSU officials last week about the State job. Ford has said he would be "flattered" to be mentioned for the position that has been vacant since Sendek left to take over as coach at Arizona State. Ford could not be reached Monday for comment. Fowler insisted the length of the search for a new coach would not hinder the Pack's recruiting efforts this year. He said candidates for the State job were recruiting and analyzing high school talent at various events in April. "The people we've talked to have been out there," he said. Fowler is making his first major hire since becoming the school's athletics director in September 2000. He said the process has been more tedious than expected because of the extended negotiations with candidates and their representatives. "We've talked contracts with a couple of guys," he said without naming names. "But you get to the point where you think you're about to hire, then they tell you to talk to their agent. Then the agent has a lawyer. Coaches are layered with agents, lawyers and accountants who all want something else in the contract. "Some [candidates] don't mention a buyout until you start to get serious. They don't mention [potential problems] on the front end." Asked if a buyout had stalled discussions with a coach during the search, Fowler said, "I think it has been well-chronicled." Last week, NCSU appeared close to reaching an agreement with West Virginia coach John Beilein, but Beilein's buyout provision of nearly $3 million proved to be a stumbling block. "

5/2/2006 10:09:23 AM

this thread makes me sigh

5/2/2006 11:30:37 AM

Ford says no

5/2/2006 11:36:00 AM

The idea of Sidney Lowe coaching here makes me sigh.

I'm just not a fan of hiring ANYONE that has never been a head coach in college before.
That is what mid-majors do, last time I checked, we aren't a mid-major.

I'll support whomever, as I supported Herb simply because he was the coach here, and I love my university. But this could be a potentially awful hire.

I would take Whitt or Miller over Lowe if it was my choice, simply because they have more experience.

Just because you were an NBA coach, a crappy one at that, doesn't mean you can recruit NBA talent.

sigh.

5/2/2006 11:40:55 AM

Wouldnt it be awesome if we really have/had Rick Barnes the whole time and he was waiting for his son to finish the school year at texas to accept to prevent people getting mad at his son.


I know this isnt true.... but I am just saying it would be awesome if this was the case and fowler was just using these other people that are his friends ( calipari, lavin) to get people to forget about barnes.

5/2/2006 2:37:08 PM

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"i removed the larger picture, the thread size is unchanged, youre welcome. "

thanks

5/2/2006 2:49:02 PM

would you rather have lowe or ford?

5/2/2006 2:53:05 PM

i wonder if they are have shag their own balls at practice

5/2/2006 2:53:14 PM

^^Is that a serious question??

5/2/2006 2:54:54 PM

^^no

jordan collins, evtimov, and others are still around. I can't remember where i read that.

from the top of the page

Quote :

"Managers are still around to shag rebounds and former Wolfpack players Jordan Collins, Tony Bethel, Cameron Bennerman and Ilian Evtimov are around to work out with the returnees."

[Edited on May 2, 2006 at 2:57 PM. Reason : found it]

5/2/2006 2:56:17 PM

so our seniors are helpin out the returnees? meh...thats good i suppose.

5/2/2006 3:05:33 PM