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https://sports.yahoo.com/james-gatto-merl-code-christian-dawkins-sentenced-prison-time-first-hoops-corruption-scandal-trial-180601581.html

3/5/2019 1:16:59 PM

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I'm just excited to see Sean Miller testify in the next trial.

3/5/2019 1:28:00 PM

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So many shirt changes.

3/5/2019 7:17:26 PM

justinh524
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"Mr. Miller, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?"

*sweats 8 gallons*

3/5/2019 7:38:44 PM

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2824570-will-wade-suspended-by-lsu-after-fbi-wiretap-released-in-ncaa-corruption-trial.amp.html

3/8/2019 3:08:13 PM

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But but but I thought this was an Adidas thing!

3/8/2019 6:35:23 PM

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Oh crap: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26198799/gottfried-directly-linked-payments

3/8/2019 9:45:46 PM

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Yeah all this is is Early saying Gottfried knew. I'm sure he will come out and deny it. But Goodman is already piling on Gottfried on Twitter.

3/8/2019 9:51:49 PM

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lol. cant even cheat right

3/9/2019 1:50:43 AM

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It would be NC State shit if NC State gets hit with sanctions after UNC skated on their investigation.

3/9/2019 8:35:53 AM

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Yeah the bullshit here is that these guys were apparently really shitty at cheating. Get a bag man to do the dirty work. Don’t let the head coach or assistant coach do it. This is cheating 101

3/9/2019 8:51:17 AM

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But can’t you see it coming already. State hit with 10 years of scholarship reductions, UNC invited by NCAA to celebrate their championship pedigree and doing things the right way.

3/9/2019 8:53:51 AM

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it's fine, gottfried also paid for other kids not on the basketball team to attend state. admittedly he shares a last name with them, but still

3/9/2019 11:33:02 AM

dmspack
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we might get punished but i don't really see this ending with any "back to the stone age" type punishment.

3/9/2019 12:13:31 PM

Flyin Ryan
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more bribes involving college, this is also "I'm shocked gambling is going on in this establishment":

(there's a very minor sports connection)

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/12/702539140/u-s-accuses-actresses-others-of-fraud-in-wide-college-admissions-scandal

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"Federal officials have charged Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin and dozens of others of mail fraud, in what the Justice Department says was a scheme to cheat college admissions standards by fabricating academic and athletic credentials and paying bribes to help their children attend prestigious universities.

"We're talking about deception and fraud — fake test scores, fake credentials, fake photographs, bribed college officials," said Andrew Lelling, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Massachusetts.

Lelling says 33 parents "paid enormous sums" to ensure their children got into schools such as Yale, sending money to a man named William Singer for faking records and obtaining false scores on important tests such as the SAT and ACT.

"Singer's clients paid him anywhere between $200,000 and $6.5 million for this service."

In most cases, he added, the parents paid between $250,000 and $450,000 per student.

"These parents are a catalog of wealth and privilege," Lelling said. "They include, for example, CEOs of private and public companies, successful securities and real estate investors, two well-known actresses, a famous fashion designer, and the co-chairman of a global law firm."

The parents who are being charged, Lelling said, were already able to give their children "every legitimate advantage," but he added, they "instead chose to corrupt and illegally manipulate the system for their benefit."

Other defendants include university athletic coaches and college exam administrators.

Lelling cited one case in which the Yale women's soccer coach took hundreds of thousands of dollars to put a student on the team, despite knowing the student did not play the sport.

The charges are part of a case that had been kept under seal. They were revealed on Tuesday, as Singer pleaded guilty to a number of federal crimes, Lelling said.

In addition to Singer, court documents name the following defendants, who are charged with mail fraud:

Gregory Abbott
Marcia Abbott
Gamal Abdelaziz
Diane Blake
Todd Blake
Jane Buckingham
Gordon Caplan
Hsin Chen
Amy Colburn
Gregory Colburn
Robert Flaxman
Mossimo Giannulli
Elizabeth Henriquez
Manuel Henriquez
Douglas Hodge
Felicity Huffman
Agustin Huneeus, Jr.
Bruce Isackson
Davina Isackson
Michelle Janavs
Elisabeth Kimmel
Marjorie Klapper
Lori Loughlin
Toby MacFarlane
William McGlashan, Jr.
Marci Palatella
Peter Jan Sartorio
Stephen Semprevivo
Devin Sloane
John Wilson
Homayoun Zadeh
Robert Zangrillo "

3/12/2019 12:21:18 PM

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LMAO they used a middle man. Don't they know they can just call up Yale/Duke/whoever and say "give my kid a degree and I'll give you a shit ton of money"?

3/12/2019 1:29:04 PM

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cuts from the AP article:

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"Authorities said coaches in such sports as soccer, sailing, tennis, water polo and volleyball accepted bribes to put students on lists of recruited athletes, regardless of their ability or experience. That, in turn, boosted the students' chances of admission.

Among the parents charged were Gordon Caplan of Greenwich, Connecticut, a co-chairman of an international law firm based in New York; Jane Buckingham, CEO of a boutique marketing company in Los Angeles; Gregory Abbott of New York, founder and chairman of a packaging company; and Manuel Henriquez, CEO of a finance company based in Palo Alto, California.

The bribes allegedly came through an admissions consulting company in Newport Beach, California. Authorities said parents paid William Singer, the founder of the Edge College & Career Network, approximately $25 million to get their children into college.

Prosecutors said Singer was scheduled to plead guilty to charges including racketeering conspiracy.

John Vandemoer, the former head sailing coach at Stanford, was also expected to plead guilty Tuesday.

Colleges moved quickly to discipline the coaches accused of involvement. Stanford fired John Vandemoer, UCLA suspended its soccer coach Jorge Salcedo, and Wake Forest did the same with its volleyball coach. "


1. Stanford has a sailing team?
2. Local ACC connection, although they couldn't find out the guy's or girl's name.

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""For every student admitted through fraud, an honest and genuinely talented student was rejected," Lelling said.

Lelling said the investigation is continuing and authorities believe other parents were involved. The schools themselves are not targets of the investigation, he said.

No students were charged. Authorities said in many cases the teenagers were not aware of the fraud.

Authorities said coaches in such sports as soccer, sailing, tennis, water polo and volleyball accepted bribes to put students on lists of recruited athletes, regardless of their ability or experience. That, in turn, boosted the students' chances of admission. "


Well these kids didn't cut the slack but because they were considered to have magically played sports, they became acceptable. Now what other sports does that happen?

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"Loughlin and her husband allegedly gave $500,000 to have their two daughters labeled as recruits to the University of Southern California crew team, even though neither participated in the sport. Their 19-year-old daughter Olivia Jade Giannulli, who has a popular YouTube channel, attends USC.

Court documents said Huffman paid $15,000 that she disguised as a charitable donation so that her daughter could take part in the college entrance-exam cheating scam.

Court papers said a cooperating witness met with Huffman and her husband, actor William H. Macy, at their Los Angeles home and explained to them that he "controlled" a testing center and could have somebody secretly change her daughter's answers. The person told investigators the couple agreed to the plan.

Macy was not charged; authorities did not say why.

Macy told Parade magazine in January that the college application process for their daughter was stressful. The couple's daughter, Sofia, is an aspiring actress who attends Los Angeles High School of the Arts. "


[Edited on March 12, 2019 at 3:39 PM. Reason : /]

3/12/2019 3:33:37 PM

ncsuallday
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https://www.wral.com/former-ncsu-booster-pleads-guilty-to-paying-bribes-to-college-athletes/18284969/

3/26/2019 2:38:05 PM

Flyin Ryan
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Trial being held with video footage shown. Most interesting is Clemson assistant talking about him trying to get Zion Williamson through his stepdad.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26604662/videos-payoffs-tale-11k-shoe-dot-trial

[Edited on April 25, 2019 at 4:52 PM. Reason : .]

4/25/2019 4:52:19 PM

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BTTT

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/georgia-tech-ncaa-penalties-handed-down-thursday/5yUPkq3rCLgnEWRyObIgnO/

So this is what we are looking at if not worse for 1 season of DSJ

9/26/2019 12:51:03 PM

justinh524
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Idk if it will be worse, considering pastner is still there and Gottfried is gone.

9/26/2019 1:46:13 PM

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Moral of the story, never cooperate with the NCAA. We should just deny, deny, deny.

9/26/2019 3:02:36 PM

justinh524
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Dennis Smith has already started that, denying that he/his family ever received the money from Early/Gottfried. He did admit to selling shoes though.

What if Early/Gottfried just pocketed the money that the adidas dude gave them?

9/26/2019 3:18:19 PM

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"What if Early/Gottfried just pocketed the money that the adidas dude gave them? "


Honestly this would not shock me at all if Gott thought he had him wrapped up

9/26/2019 4:38:13 PM

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"So this is what we are looking at if not worse for 1 season of DSJ"


Maybe but not necessarily. NCAA has very little consistency in punishments.

9/26/2019 5:14:38 PM

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^^on second thought, he probably gave it to Maverick Rowan.

9/26/2019 6:39:29 PM

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"Dennis Smith has already started that, denying that he/his family ever received the money from Early/Gottfried. He did admit to selling shoes though."


Whew, good. Nobody has ever gotten a post season ban for that.

[Edited on September 26, 2019 at 7:56 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2019 7:56:18 PM

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If Dennis Smith's dunk wasnt worth the $40k, I hope they at least gave it to Caleb Martin for not sitting when he fouled out

9/26/2019 8:17:42 PM

justinh524
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His dunk didn't even count, just like that game.

9/26/2019 8:28:33 PM

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9/27/2019 9:11:48 AM

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So how much NC State Shit would it be to catch the hammer on the Dennis Smith stuff right before the NCAA recognizes the option for players to get name and likeness rights and its an open market while we are sitting around on probation.

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Florida joins list of states where a legislator has proposed bill relating to college athletes' name, image and likeness, and spokesman for Fla. Rep. Chip LaMarca says another bill is coming"

9/30/2019 5:14:29 PM

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https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article235904547.html

FERPA and whatnot

10/16/2019 6:18:41 PM

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https://packinsider.com/2019/10/17/nc-state-being-sued-by-no-wral-abc11-ny-times/

10/17/2019 11:01:29 AM

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Lol - im so proud

10/17/2019 11:31:58 AM

justinh524
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i do like that this lawsuit could end up forcing UNC to release documents they refused to previously. so that's a nice silver lining if we get fucked.

10/17/2019 12:58:58 PM

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^Except the NCAA already ruled on UNC's issue and the matter is considered closed. So even if there were a couple extra bombshells in there, it wouldn't matter.

10/21/2019 10:44:55 AM

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It would make me feel good. Also since the NCAA isn't a court of law I'm pretty sure double jeopardy isn't a thing.

10/21/2019 11:52:41 AM

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https://www.si.com/college/2019/12/09/nc-state-disputes-ncaa-level-i-allegation

12/9/2019 7:25:25 PM

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https://youtu.be/bOnRHAyXqYY

Strenuously.

12/9/2019 9:10:59 PM

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This is a smart angle to take at it I think - as long as no proof says we were directly involved and he acted for himself, should get off much better than initially thought.

12/9/2019 9:19:38 PM

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it says

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" It adds that it has self-imposed financial, scholarship and recruiting penalties as a result of the Level II and Level III penalty guidelines."


but have these self imposed penalties been actually announced?

12/10/2019 8:14:50 AM

Fry
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we should suspend ourselves indefinitely.

12/10/2019 8:45:32 AM

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^ Best suggestion yet, save everybody the continuous disappointment of supporting the team.

12/10/2019 9:12:20 AM

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can they suspend the football team, forever, in lieu of the basketball team

12/10/2019 9:53:22 AM

marko
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"we should suspend ourselves indefinitely."


lol

12/10/2019 11:03:50 AM

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"but have these self imposed penalties been actually announced?"


I think it mentions it somewhere in there, maybe in the linked report, or maybe a different article I read

found it, from wralsportsfan:

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"In its filing with the NCAA, NC State said it was willing to:

Pay a $5,000 fine.
Give up a student scholarship for the 2021-22 recruiting class.
Reduce its number of recruiting visits during the 2019-20 academic year."


nothing too crazy, no postseason ban or anything

12/10/2019 5:58:02 PM

dmspack
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^ ahhh. Thanks for posting that.

12/10/2019 6:31:22 PM

LastInACC
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cant we just hire UNC's defense team and have the NCAA to stfu.

12/10/2019 10:01:09 PM

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That's exactly what we did, and we're using the exact same tactic where we slap ourselves on the wrist for some tiny infractions that we absolutely can't refute only to fight tooth and nail against the ones that matter.

It lets the NCAA save face. We made SOME concessions, and we punished ourselves, so the NCAA can say that our punishments were enough instead of just having to say "you're right, we're not going to do anything because we don't actually have any evidence or authority"

12/13/2019 11:26:19 AM

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