^ i saw someone on FB post some religious article saying "god doesn't make mistakes-- your sex is your gender" (paraphrasing). I wanted to ask about the obvious "mistake" of hermephrodites, if this was true.

Funny how people will contort religion to support their personal biases, without even realizing it.

6/4/2015 1:08:48 PM

49th post

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" It's bigoted to say anything against Caitlyn. Gotcha"

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"it is bigoted to insist that gender and sex are equivalent and that people who wanna add and remove body parts or change skin tone or other aspects of their appearance/physicality are mentally ill and in need of treatment to become 'neurotypical'. IDGAF about this particular individual, but it is my conviction that everyone should have the choice to look how they want, fuck and marry who they want (or choose to abstain from these 'normal' activities) in whatever way as long as everyone is sure that's what they want."

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 1:12 PM. Reason : ]

6/4/2015 1:11:51 PM

Gender and biological sex aren't synonymous, but there is overlap, and you don't get to just "pick" either one of them.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 1:20 PM. Reason : Gender identity, yes. Not gender. (although I don't think it's a conscious "choice")]

6/4/2015 1:20:07 PM

so...we're all in agreement then...

sports leagues and bathroom assignments based on sex

6/4/2015 1:46:39 PM

6/4/2015 1:56:02 PM

We now live in a world where theres a grey area for gender/sex.

6/4/2015 2:00:28 PM

^ Why is that sickening? It's completely natural and how the world works.

6/4/2015 2:03:04 PM

Is it grey or gray....that's the important question

6/4/2015 2:06:27 PM

^^^^That still leaves you with instances like this.



That's a transman in a woman's bathroom.

6/4/2015 2:09:48 PM

hypothetical alert!

so, if I'm at a bar trying to pick up a lady, would it be disrespectful of me to ask what their sex is?

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 2:11 PM. Reason : ^i'm cool with all dong owners reporting to the same trough, regardless of clothes, makeup, implants]

6/4/2015 2:10:13 PM

I'll add another hypothetical.


Lets say a big macho man is out at a bar, picks up a nice smoking hot she/male. He takes shemale (yea thats its name) back to his place for a night cap. When he rounds 3rd headed for home he finds a penis. Is it a hate crime to beat Shemale?

I like being able to look at a woman, and not have to guess if shes a she or a he. Somethings are simple, and male or female is as simple as it gets. X or Y the end.

6/4/2015 2:15:54 PM

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"When he rounds 3rd headed for home he finds a penis. Is it a hate crime to beat Shemale? "

in my book, it's pretty much rape for Shemale not to disclose, beforehand, that she possesses a penis.

6/4/2015 2:19:06 PM

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"I like being able to look at a woman, and not have to guess if shes a she or a he."

Or maybe start practicing at looking at people without wondering what's in their pants?

An no, it's not as simple as "male" or "female." 1/100 births result in people whose bodies differ from that of a standard male or female.

6/4/2015 2:21:07 PM

6/4/2015 2:24:12 PM

wish we coulda been there as a fly on the wall for the duke's childhood, hearing whatever 'boys don't cry' gender indoctrination he received to become 'the manliest man evar!'


Of course afripino is down for the chance to see shemale dongs in the restroom.


What is it, exactly, bothers you so much about someone with a vagina coming in the men's room? First of all, there are perverts and voyeurs and would-be rapists hanging out in bathrooms for both genders as things stand currently, and other places as well. Fuck predators, they're everywhere. Hide your kids, hide your wife, hide your husband. Girls like Caitlyn wanna go in the ladies room because there isn't piss on every single surface. As long as someone sits to pee and doesn't leave blood, piss, and caca all over the place, I don't really care who comes over on 'my side'. But if there's really someone out there who subjects themself to having to walk by a turd in a flushless urinal in anything but a dire emergency, I guess I would be a little concerned for my safety around them too.

and, BJ, if you go 3 rounds of anal with someone you picked up from the bar without noticing the rest of their body, you're probably drunk enough to be considered incapable of consenting to sex. and also, a chauvinist pig. And you're going to have to come to terms with the fact that you were attracted to this PERSON and enjoyed having sex with their asshole twice already.


[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 2:34 PM. Reason : pig]

6/4/2015 2:29:00 PM

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"Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births Ovotestes one in 83,000 births Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate 5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births "

http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency

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"An no, it's not as simple as "male" or "female." 1/100 births result in people whose bodies differ from that of a standard male or female."

Please enlighten us on how 1 out of every 100 people is a shemale.....

100% of your argument just lost credibility.

6/4/2015 2:34:40 PM

Wasnt there a marine or soldier recently thatnl beat a tranny to death, for essentially not telling him he/she was a t-girl before they hooked up?

6/4/2015 2:35:45 PM

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"Or maybe start practicing at looking at people without wondering what's in their pants?"

seriously, here's the thing. I have the right to refuse sex to ANYONE, for ANY reason whatsoever.\

so if I decide I don't want to fuck somebody because (for example) they have a penis, or they USED to have a penis, I am entirely within my rights. and it's nobody's place to judge me for this policy.

since this is a policy which a lot of males share, transgender females are in my view obligated to make clear, when they perceive that anybody's trying to fuck them, that they used to be male. to do otherwise is incredibly disrespectful of the other person's rights/wishes.

6/4/2015 2:37:12 PM

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"rounds 3rd headed for home"

and

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"3 rounds of anal"

are, most definitely, NOT the same thing

6/4/2015 2:39:35 PM

Quote :

"Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births Ovotestes one in 83,000 births Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate 5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births "

http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency


one in 500 having genital normalization surgery is pretty high.

6/4/2015 2:40:09 PM

BlackJesus It makes it easy when we use the same source:

6/4/2015 2:40:17 PM

why don't you just tell every female you see that you have no intention of fucking a post-op tranny, Gaither?


pretty sure that will weed 'em out for you, without people having to wear armbands.

6/4/2015 2:42:24 PM

Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births

Very important. Genetically xx or xy are male/female. Not if you got a tiny dick, or big vagina.

^If you find a man that says I'll fuck a post op tranny, you found a gay man.

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 2:43 PM. Reason : ,]

6/4/2015 2:42:58 PM

Here... go join your fellow people:
http://www.wral.com/share/page/1896337/?id=14682861

6/4/2015 2:45:08 PM

southpark covered that one like 10 years ago. Gay men like penises.

6/4/2015 2:46:07 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/15/us-marine-charged-killing-filipino-transgender-laude-pemberton

Never mind. He didn't beat the tranny to death. He strangled her, and drowned her in the toilet.

message_topic.aspx?topic=644039

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 2:48 PM. Reason : moar]

6/4/2015 2:46:25 PM

Wrong, a top only needs a anus to be happy. Bottoms like dick.

^...

6/4/2015 2:46:51 PM

And what's giving you this insight? first-hand experience?

6/4/2015 2:48:25 PM

I know a gay person.

6/4/2015 2:50:38 PM

there's the problem. 'A' gay person is just a person, who likes what they like. In this instance, I suppose they only like assholes. That's probably it's own paraphilia. If gay porn is any indication, , even tops like sucking cock.

6/4/2015 2:56:07 PM

According to my porn, all women are a size 0, with D cups, love anal, 3 ways, and let you finish on their face.

6/4/2015 2:57:41 PM

something for everybody, eh

6/4/2015 2:58:37 PM

not that I want to see it, just that I don't mind a man dressed as a "woman" using men facilities.

6/4/2015 2:59:33 PM

so everyone just go piss where you want, no raping each other, kay? great

6/4/2015 3:01:50 PM

i'll piss on yo face then, biatch!

Quote :

"Or maybe start practicing at looking at people without wondering what's in their pants?"

sometimes I would like to have intercourse with people. what's in their pants affects that. is knowing ahead of time too much to ask for?


[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 3:05 PM. Reason : no srsly, let's keep the facilities separate.]

6/4/2015 3:02:33 PM

No, lets make grey rooms for them.

6/4/2015 3:06:09 PM

^They're already doing it in California.

6/4/2015 3:06:53 PM

Just like I suggested to BSG, if you are that concerned about not having sex with a biological male, you should just share your concerns with your potential partner. You could do it when you ask if she has diseases, is on the pill, allergic to latex, etc, or you could do it before you kiss her. Why is that hard?

6/4/2015 3:11:22 PM

or men could just be men and women women. How hard is that?

[Edited on June 4, 2015 at 3:12 PM. Reason : it]

6/4/2015 3:12:46 PM

Are you so ignorant that you wouldnt think that it would be insulting to ask an honest to God female, right before getting down and dirty, if she's actually a male?

6/4/2015 3:13:50 PM

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"You could do it when you ask if she has diseases, is on the pill, allergic to latex, etc, or you could do it before you kiss her. Why is that hard?"

Because it's an extra step they have to do before their dick can get wet.

6/4/2015 3:15:08 PM

Right after nibbling on her neck, "are you a man?"

You won't get no pussy with that strategy.

6/4/2015 3:15:31 PM

Right after tonguing out their asshole for 30 minutes, "btw did you used to have a ding dong?"

6/4/2015 3:18:05 PM

Right after cleaning her diamond "were you born a man"

And we all know women are stupid, so as soon as you ask if she was a man shes going to analyze/tear herself down trying to figure out which part of her body looks manly....

6/4/2015 3:19:21 PM

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"not that I want to see it, just that I don't mind a man dressed as a "woman" using men facilities. "

This is understandable, but what actually prevents this, whether it's "legal" or not? I'm pretty sure a sign on a door doesn't stop a woman dressed as a man from walking into a man's bathroom, looking at everyone's pensies, then rubbing one out in a stall.

This is almost an irrelevant part of this discussion... not sure why this is even brought up.

6/4/2015 3:28:09 PM

People are legally obligated to reveal if they have STDs before having sex, because of their potential to harm others through sexual contact. So please, men, how are you harmed by having consensual sex with someone whose body you find pleasing, if they are not the sex you perceive them to be?

6/4/2015 3:29:14 PM

Because the consent is based on a fabrication of the truth. it's pretty fucking simple, you just refuse to accept that this is an ethical problem that didn't exist previous to sex-change operations.

6/4/2015 3:32:30 PM

If one thing is certain, no one has ever lied to get laid

6/4/2015 3:35:37 PM

Lying to get laid is not on the same level as withholding the fact that genetically you are the opposite sex. Its morally wrong and is on the same level as rape.

6/4/2015 3:37:56 PM

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" So please, men, how are you harmed by having consensual sex with someone whose body you find pleasing, if they are not the sex you perceive them to be?"

Because you'll catch the gay.

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" I'm pretty sure a sign on a door doesn't stop a woman dressed as a man from walking into a man's bathroom, looking at everyone's pensies, then rubbing one out in a stall. "

This happens to me all the time.

6/4/2015 3:38:07 PM