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AndyMac
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5.57 mm

You can kill people with your car as easily as you can with a gun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1_YFmzPPCQ

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 2:15 PM. Reason : ]

7/24/2012 2:14:34 PM

Fumbler
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^^It's chit chat. I don't put much effort into chit chat.

lol, @physics
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"If a gun is fired from a treadmill, will the bullet move forward?"

7/24/2012 2:16:25 PM

Krallum
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^^ then why doesn't the military just arm soldiers with kia fortes

Im krallum and i approved this message

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 2:31 PM. Reason : if it is just as easy]

7/24/2012 2:30:58 PM

moron
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Regarding the nut job in Co: no amount of gun regulations would have stopped him from going nuts. If it wasn't guns, he would have used bombs, or vehicles or something. He was nuts.

Regarding "routine" crime or gang violence: gun regulation can have some impact on reducing the severity of the damage, but is only 1 small component in fighting "routine" crime.

7/24/2012 2:49:04 PM

eli
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"Isn't this the concept/policy our government uses with nuclear bombs?

You have bombs, and I have bombs, so let's not bomb each other.

And if criminals can get firearms, why shouldn't law-abiding citizens be able to get them to protect themselves?"


Mutual assured destruction... guns and nukes will never completely disappear. As long as one side has 'em ('good' or 'bad'), the other will always want them as security.

7/24/2012 2:49:43 PM

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Fumbler



I win you lose. thread/

7/24/2012 3:07:02 PM

Fumbler
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Nice pic

7/24/2012 3:09:44 PM

BlackJesus
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Like it or not you can expect a Assault Weapon ban in the next year. Either Obama or Romney is gonna push for it. The NRA has no ground to stand on when Americans can't watch a movie without it becoming a massacre.

7/24/2012 3:11:28 PM

TreeTwista10
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we should just have armed MPAA guards patrolling every movie

they could be on the lookout for crazy gunmen, as well as illegal videorecording

7/24/2012 3:12:53 PM

BlackJesus
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Body scanners at all entrances will do a better job.

7/24/2012 3:15:07 PM

TreeTwista10
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does that include the emergency exits? you know, where the crazy gunmen entered the theater?

7/24/2012 3:16:23 PM

BlackJesus
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He entered the front door. It was the dumbasses in the theater that watch him go out the emergency exit (leave it open) and arm himself.

7/24/2012 3:19:05 PM

TreeTwista10
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so now its the other moviegoers' faults

7/24/2012 3:19:49 PM

BlackJesus
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No because if guns were banned he wouldn't have had anything in his car to arm himself with.

7/24/2012 3:20:59 PM

TreeTwista10
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agreed

*inhales banned marijuana*

7/24/2012 3:21:48 PM

sparky
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EXCEPT MAYBE.....A BOMB!!

7/24/2012 3:23:05 PM

BlackJesus
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Weed isn't banned. Its illegal but the punishments for having it isn't enough to deter people. Weed also is engineered to kill. At least tell me you are taking a real drug. Weed is a plant and shouldn't be illegal.

7/24/2012 3:23:57 PM

DoubleDown
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If all guns were banned last year, it'd have been impossible for him to use one of the 200 million privately-owned firearms in the US to do the job.

7/24/2012 3:24:17 PM

TreeTwista10
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"Its illegal but the punishments for having it isn't enough to deter people."


Agreed. I think there should be mandatory 5 year prison sentences for weed.

7/24/2012 3:25:39 PM

dustm
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or assemble/ build one himself.

7/24/2012 3:25:45 PM

BlackJesus
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Not if we do like they did in New Orleans after Katrina and forcefully disarm people. Go ahead and say its un-American. America does this shit to every other country.

7/24/2012 3:29:45 PM

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"No because if guns were banned he wouldn't have had anything in his car to arm himself with."


LOL

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"Not if we do like they did in New Orleans after Katrina and forcefully disarm people. Go ahead and say its un-American. America does this shit to every other country."


THIS. This is what all of you anti-gunners are all about. In one argument, you're saying fuck the government for violating constitutional rights, illegal searches, etc. But you WELCOME the government to start knocking down doors "just to check" in the case of firearms. You're willing to violate all kinds of rights to chase some pipe dream of getting rid of all firearms. The reality is, is that you don't care about any constitutional right. You just adhere to Bloomberg's talking points and have an irrational, unbased hatred of firearms because they're scary, because people do bad things. It's a cousin to the ol' conservative view of "I ain't done nothing wrong, so I ain't go nothin' to hide" when it comes to giving up your constitutional rights. Yeh, YOU don't care because you don't have firearms. So you think you'll be safe. But for your pipe dream to work, the government would have to search everyone and their properties for firearms. So no one is safe. You want the government to come in and look around. Have fun with that when they find your pot/coke/prescription drug stash.

It's the same problem with illegal immigrants. Technically they should all be deported. But in reality, most of them are good, diligent people doing no wrong. You could deport them, but that entails massive searches, unheard of logistics, and billions of dollars. Sure there is a solution but in no way shape or form is it plausible, much less feasible. Nor is the solution guaranteed to work. It's a pipe dream that talking heads love to spout, but in reality it's just not a good idea.

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 3:41 PM. Reason : IMO]

7/24/2012 3:31:24 PM

Klatypus
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how about them sub-sonic bb guns?

these are crucial for the sound sensitive variety of zombies.

7/24/2012 3:33:26 PM

DoubleDown
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Keep in mind that BlackJesus was not born in the US. He immigrated here when he was 2 with his family.

7/24/2012 3:34:57 PM

MisterGreen
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keep in mind that blackjesus is doing a very poor job of trolling

7/24/2012 3:39:33 PM

EMCE
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" THIS. This is what all of you anti-gunners are all about. In one argument, you're saying fuck the government for violating constitutional rights, illegal searches, etc. But you WELCOME the government to start knocking down doors "just to check" in the case of firearms. You're willing to violate all kinds of rights to chase some pipe dream of getting rid of all firearms."


Where has anyone said this? Who is 'all about' this?

7/24/2012 3:39:50 PM

wdprice3
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I said that. And who is "all about this"? Anyone wanting to disarm the people. There is only one way to "get rid of guns". It's been stated multiple times ITT, people want all the guns taken away and done away with. And that requires the government forcefully searching the population and their properties. And to be successful, the government can't base it on ATF forms. They'd have to violate everyone's rights to fulfill this absurd dream. And in the end, it would still fail.


[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 3:44 PM. Reason : .]

7/24/2012 3:42:27 PM

Ernie
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Massive assumptions by wdprice and his 40-pound goatee ITT.

7/24/2012 3:44:46 PM

Klatypus
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We as a country are stupid if we ban guns.

7/24/2012 3:46:24 PM

wdprice3
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I'll entertain ideas on how to get rid of all of the guns.

Go:

7/24/2012 3:47:34 PM

Ernie
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Remember when texting while driving was made illegal and all the cops proactively threw rocks through your windshield on 440 just to see if you were texting.

Kristallnacht, motherfucker

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM. Reason : 1. Make them illegal. 2. Confiscate them on sight 3. Issue an punishments. It's pretty simple, reall]

7/24/2012 3:48:45 PM

rtc407
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huge magnets

overpowered bullets that destroy all guns

7/24/2012 3:48:54 PM

Klatypus
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I think they are trying to rile you up. Isn't there a tww thread like this everytime someone gets shot in the US? or am I exaggerating?

7/24/2012 3:49:09 PM

EMCE
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haha, ok man. You're obviously having a blast dancing with that straw man that you created. I will not interfere.

7/24/2012 3:50:18 PM

Ernie
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7/24/2012 3:51:14 PM

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facile arguments ITT

7/24/2012 3:54:14 PM

MisterGreen
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"1. Make them illegal. 2. Confiscate them on sight 3. Issue an punishments. It's pretty simple, reall"




ich est eine gute idea!

7/24/2012 3:59:45 PM

wdprice3
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"1. Make them illegal. 2. Confiscate them on sight 3. Issue an punishments. It's pretty simple, reall"


7/24/2012 4:01:25 PM

Ernie
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Thanks, Hitler photograph.

7/24/2012 4:01:33 PM

wdprice3
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No really, that's a cute idea. Been working for drugs for years now.

7/24/2012 4:02:12 PM

Ernie
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I didn't say declare a war on guns. Again, you just run off on some shit.

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 4:03 PM. Reason : Just make them illegal. It's not my biggest concern.]

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 4:05 PM. Reason : I think you're arguing with your conceptualization of an anti-gun person instead of me.]

7/24/2012 4:02:43 PM

wdprice3
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Well, we didn't start off with a war on drugs.

Drugs were made illegal. Drugs were confiscated on sight. Punishments were dealt.

It failed.

Then right-wingers created the war on drugs, which has cost billions of dollars (trillions yet?), escalated violence, resulted in LEO deaths, innocent bystander deaths, puppy deaths , and has filled jails/prisons with drug users instead of real criminals. It's likely only a matter of time for a war on guns.

7/24/2012 4:05:03 PM

Ernie
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Okay since you say so

7/24/2012 4:05:31 PM

thegoodlife3
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"I think you're arguing with your conceptualization of an anti-gun person instead of me"


and that, my friends, is what perfection looks like.

7/24/2012 4:06:23 PM

wdprice3
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Similar things happened with prohibition, though to much lesser extents, and is still around in some forms. It never came to the level of a "war on alcohol" but it didn't look too differently.

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By your posts, you have essentially explain yourself to be anti-gun. Your "ideas" are the same ones spouted by Brady/Bloomberg. What am I missing?

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 4:08 PM. Reason : .]

7/24/2012 4:06:41 PM

Ernie
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Well we definitely shouldn't try to make society better since we fucked up some stuff before

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I'm very anti-gun. I want them to be illegal, etc. etc. I'm being more than reasonable in this discussion and you're all like "Ernie wants Dog the Bounty hunter to rip off my head and shit down my neck while I sleep cause I got a rifle".

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 4:09 PM. Reason : ]

7/24/2012 4:07:41 PM

wdprice3
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So by that logic, should the war on drugs continue? Maybe just tweak it some? Because, after all, we're just trying to make society better.

Maybe we make church mandatory, to make society better.

7/24/2012 4:09:09 PM

Ernie
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It's hard to express just how fucking kooky you are

I think we should hone our efforts to enforce laws. I don't just think because we fucked up other prohibition we should steer away from new ones.

The war on drugs is retarded. Gimme da weed.

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 4:11 PM. Reason : ]

7/24/2012 4:09:49 PM

wdprice3
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haha, says the one with fairy tale ideas

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"I think we should hone our efforts to enforce laws. I don't just think because we fucked up other prohibition we should steer away from new ones."


Well certainly better law enforcement is needed, that's a big part of any battle. As far as fucking up past prohibitions, it seems the U.S. government doesn't have a good track of any prohibition on a massive scale. And certainly it wouldn't improve when you're talking about ending/violating a constitutional right of the people.

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 4:14 PM. Reason : .]

7/24/2012 4:11:16 PM

Ernie
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Again, this is hardly a major concern to me, as evidenced by the fact that I've never discussed it on TWW before. Fairy tale, whatever, this is my opinion and I'll sort of fight for it. Don't care all that much.

[Edited on July 24, 2012 at 4:13 PM. Reason : ]

7/24/2012 4:12:59 PM

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