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HATE CHICKEN!!1

7/27/2012 6:29:38 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/events/444598242237116/


LOL. Seriously. Why act like children?

7/27/2012 8:34:58 PM

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this whole thing is disgusting

7/27/2012 8:49:07 PM

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"What? Some old, white guy who happened to inherit a popular business is against a growing call for societal equality?!?! *gasp*"

wrong.

"The chain grew from the Dwarf Grill (later the Dwarf House, a name still used by the chain), a restaurant opened by S. Truett Cathy, who is still the company's chairman, in the Atlanta, Georgia suburb of Hapeville in 1946.[7] This restaurant is near the now-demolished Ford plant, where some workers ate between shifts.

The first Chick-fil-A that is in a mall opened in Atlanta's Greenbriar Mall in 1967.[8] The company's current trademarked[9] slogan, "We Didn't Invent the Chicken, Just the Chicken Sandwich," refers to their flagship menu-item, the popular quick-serve or fast-food chicken sandwich. In 1961, Cathy found a pressure-fryer that could cook the chicken sandwich in the same amount of time it took to cook a fast-food hamburger.[10]"

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"remember, we're supposed to be tolerant of people with different beliefs! unless they are Christian"


[Edited on July 28, 2012 at 8:30 AM. Reason : Silly Cathy, u didn't build that!!]

7/28/2012 8:13:04 AM

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This is the latest trend for hipster kids to "protest on facebook" about.

Needless to say, chik fila wont lose any money and life will go on as usual

7/28/2012 8:48:39 AM

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"Although the ACLU strongly supports same-sex marriage, a senior attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois warned that if Chicago bans Chick-fil-A over the religious views of its management, it will be engaging in "viewpoint discrimination," Fox News reported Thursday.

“The government can regulate discrimination in employment or against customers, but what the government cannot do is to punish someone for their words,” said ACLU senior attorney Adam Schwartz.

“When an alderman refuses to allow a business to open because its owner has expressed a viewpoint the government disagrees with, the government is practicing viewpoint discrimination,” he added.

“But we also support the First Amendment,” Schwartz said. “We don’t think the government should exclude Chick-fil-A because of the anti-LGBT message. We believe this is clear cut.”"

7/28/2012 12:33:20 PM

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"A marriage license is issued by the state."

So, AGAIN, if the US disappeared tomorrow, no one here would be married, right?


^ damn, I actually agree with the ACLU on something.

7/28/2012 12:53:05 PM

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"do drugs
Rape sluts
Make fun of gay clubs
Men that wear makeup"

7/28/2012 1:14:27 PM

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""remember, we're supposed to be tolerant of people with different beliefs! unless they are Christian""


this isn't about being intolerant of christians. it's about being intolerant of a ceo who is intolerant of groups of people, and gives the money that they get from you and me to intolerant organizations that use that money to try to legislate their intolerance against groups of people. the fact that he is a christian isn't the issue. it's that he gives his money to organizations that try to legislate their intolerant beliefs on others.

[Edited on July 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM. Reason : ]

7/28/2012 1:51:45 PM

aaronburro
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no. what's at issue is that you disagree with his beliefs, and you think he should be ridiculed for them. AKA, we should be tolerant of different beliefs, except for Christian ones

7/28/2012 1:55:57 PM

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Chicks-feel-gay

7/28/2012 2:01:51 PM

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Do you think the NC State student body will try to ban Chik-fil-a on campus?

7/28/2012 2:05:18 PM

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"no. what's at issue is that you disagree with his beliefs, and you think he should be ridiculed for them. AKA, we should be tolerant of different beliefs, except for Christian ones"


i'm trying not too get personal on here, but you come up with some really stupid arguments. i already addressed all of this. it has very little to do with him being a christian. if he was contributing his chicken-selling money to organizations that use that money to try to legislate their beliefs on others, i wouldn't care if he was christian, muslim, agnostic, atheist, mormon.... i wouldn't want to give him my money. it's pretty simple.

7/28/2012 2:09:42 PM

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and what you don't get is that you and many others are using that as a facade to hide your intolerance to his beliefs. You talk a big game about how important it is to respect others' beliefs and the like, but then, when faced with the ability to actually live by your own words, you find an excuse not to do so. You find an excuse to deflect and say why this guy really shouldn't be tolerated. Oh, he contributes to this charity with his own money. What an evil man, using his own money how he sees fit to give to whatever charities and groups he likes. but, if he were to give to an opposing charity, one that agreed with you, well, hell, that'd be fine! nothing wrong there... no need to attack him for that.

In one fell swoop, you've pissed on free speech, free association, and freedom of belief. All because you don't like what he believes. Seriously. Do some introspection

7/28/2012 2:13:47 PM

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Arent all sides trying to legislate their beliefs on others?

Isn't that what this whole shit had been about the whole time multiple sects of the population have sought equality from the the government?

7/28/2012 2:13:54 PM

aaronburro
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oh shit, BHS just dropped some knowledge on everybody

7/28/2012 2:19:15 PM

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who cares who eats chicken, pussy, or schlong for dinner...as longa s everyone is satisfied.

7/28/2012 2:48:28 PM

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GAYSASSINATION????

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"Chick-fil-A public relations leader Don Perry dies suddenly

By Leon Stafford
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Longtime Chick-fil-A public relations head Don Perry has died.

The Atlanta-based company said that Perry, who was vice president of public relations, died suddenly early Friday morning."


http://www.ajc.com/business/chick-fil-a-public-1486023.html

7/29/2012 10:16:29 AM

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7/29/2012 10:22:47 AM

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"i wish the faggots would just live their lives and leave us all the fuck alone."




[Edited on July 29, 2012 at 10:23 AM. Reason : ...]

7/29/2012 10:23:05 AM

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^AHAHAHAHAHAHA... because that is in any way equivalent....

7/29/2012 11:23:57 AM

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I had some Chik fil a last night. It was glorious

7/29/2012 11:34:09 AM

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why do we have to talk about this on Sunday

7/29/2012 11:46:53 AM

BigHitSunday
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O pyroderi with that same old crap argument rehashed again

7/29/2012 1:04:45 PM

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Change.org is sending massive number to letters to students across the country to get the Chik-fil-a's removed from their campuses.

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

7/29/2012 1:12:35 PM

aaronburro
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didn't you know, BHS? Some people not liking you is totally the same as the gov't telling you that you can't have an actual job that's worth a damn!

7/29/2012 1:24:03 PM

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"and what you don't get is that you and many others are using that as a facade to hide your intolerance to his beliefs. You talk a big game about how important it is to respect others' beliefs and the like, but then, when faced with the ability to actually live by your own words, you find an excuse not to do so. You find an excuse to deflect and say why this guy really shouldn't be tolerated. Oh, he contributes to this charity with his own money. What an evil man, using his own money how he sees fit to give to whatever charities and groups he likes. but, if he were to give to an opposing charity, one that agreed with you, well, hell, that'd be fine! nothing wrong there... no need to attack him for that.

In one fell swoop, you've pissed on free speech, free association, and freedom of belief. All because you don't like what he believes. Seriously. Do some introspection"


Wrong. Completely wrong.

'Respect' in this context refers to not preventing Cathy from exercising his own speech, to the extent that his speech and actions do not impose on the rights of others. Cathy is free to lobby the government to enact legislation in accordance with his beliefs (rightfully so). Depending on those beliefs, however, the government may not be free to act as Cathy would like.

Bullet has in no way prevented Cathy from excersing his freedom of speech, belief, and association. Bullet has not prevented Cathy from lobbying the government.

Bullet possesses the same rights as Cathy and is not obliged to support or agree with Cathy's beliefs (nor does 'respect' require he do so). There is no obligation to provide Cathy with supportive time, money, or speech. Bullet is entitled to speech completely contrary to Cathy's, and, just like Cathy, Bullet is free to lobby the government and use his speech to rally like-minded individuals.

The real issue here has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage. The issue is the government's attempt to punish Cathy (via Chick-fil-a) for his rightfully held beliefs and exercised speech. Cathy's speech and beliefs (as well as Chick-fil-a's) have not violated government established boundaries between his own rights and the rights of others. Agreement or disagreement with the content of Cathy's speech is irrelevant. Nonetheless, the governments of Boston and Chicago seek to deny Chick-fil-a based on Cathy's beliefs.

That should trouble everyone. Consumer boycotts--an exercise of free speech--should not.

Way to miss the point.

7/29/2012 3:51:07 PM

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"The real issue here has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage. The issue is the government's attempt to punish Cathy (via Chick-fil-a) for his rightfully held beliefs and excersised speech. Cathy's speech and beliefs (as well as Chick-fil-a's) have not violated government established boundaries between his own rights and the rights of others. Agreement or disagreement with the content of Cathy's speech is irrelevant. Nonetheless, the governments of Boston and Chicago seek to deny Chick-fil-a based on Cathy's beliefs."


This exactly.

I have no problem with a bunch of butthurt people (sometimes figuratively and literally) boycotting chick-fil-a as long as they don't bother me about eating there. But local governments trying to prevent a business from moving into their city because of the beliefs of the owner is a travesty.

7/29/2012 3:55:37 PM

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not reading all this shit, but damn i haven't had chic-fil-a in a hot minute

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

7/29/2012 4:02:26 PM

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Unless I've missed something, Boston is taking no action to stop Chick-fil-A from locating there. The mayor wrote a letter urging them not to, which is well within his rights, but at no point in it did he say anything would be done to stop them.

Chicago, on the other hand, definitely unconstitutional what that alderman is doing.

7/29/2012 4:08:53 PM

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Vulcan, the Boston mayor gave a couple televised interviews where he said they would not be welcome and suggested the city council would ban them. He was even stupid enough at one point to hint that they could try to sue if they wanted.

He has however stepped back and said they wouldn't be banned... I think he realized how idiotic he was. It is one thing to voice your displeasure... its another thing to say the govt. won't allow them and then suggest they could sue.

Boston won't block or ban them... think it was just a case of the mayor saying stuff without thinking because he was angry.

[Edited on July 29, 2012 at 4:14 PM. Reason : .]

7/29/2012 4:14:30 PM

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but, it shows what liberals really want: to ban anyone from public life who dares to disagree with them. And so many on the left would GLADLY go along with it.

then again, it's not like the religious right is any better

7/29/2012 4:19:41 PM

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overgeneralize much?

7/29/2012 4:20:15 PM

aaronburro
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not even a little bit.

7/29/2012 4:20:34 PM

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I agree with you. You have not overgeneralized by a little bit. You overgeneralized by a lot.

7/29/2012 4:21:38 PM

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"but, it shows what aaronburro thinks liberals really want: to ban anyone from public life who dares to disagree with them. And aaronburro thinks so many on the left would GLADLY go along with it."

7/29/2012 4:48:06 PM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/conor-gaughan/chick-fil-a-homophobia_b_1711566.html

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"We Are Not Arguing Over Chicken

in the last seven days, a lesbian in Nebraska was carved with a knife, a gay man in Oklahoma was firebombed , and a girl in Kentucky was kicked and beaten -- her jaw broken and her teeth knocked out -- while her assailants allegedly hurled anti-gay slurs at her.

I am your coworker, your frat brother, your cousin, your neighbor. And I am watching as you defend institutionalized discrimination.

Eat all the chicken sandwiches you want. But, realize that behind this debate are real people -- kids like the girl in Kentucky who fear for their safety, women like Sally Ride's widow who are denied their spouse's Social Security benefits. Even if it doesn't seem like it, we want nothing more than to leave behind the angry debates on Facebook and on Capitol Hill. There are, after all, a lot of pictures of One Direction and grandkids we would rather be posting, sharing and 'liking.'"

7/29/2012 7:01:26 PM

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So stop bothering me when I try to eat the best fast food chicken sandwich around.

7/30/2012 12:38:26 AM

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^^Don't forget about the lesbian in PA that was buried alive by her ex girlfriend and her ex's new girlfriend. This was after they blamed the girl's father for her murder and said her father was anti-homosexual.

http://www.goerie.com/article/20120726/NEWS02/307259930/Cochranton-women-told-police-they-beat-buried-homicide-victim

7/30/2012 5:58:46 AM

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"Boston won't block or ban them... think it was just a case of the mayor saying stuff without thinking because he was angry suddenly realized that the position might not garner as many votes as he originally thought it would."



Pretty much the only reason city leaders say anything like this.

7/30/2012 7:41:32 AM

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DC Mayor Gray says he doesn't want this 'hate chicken' to be sold in DC.

7/30/2012 8:16:33 AM

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Please tell us more about how 2 mens should be married.

7/30/2012 8:41:13 AM

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http://www.goerie.com/article/20120726/NEWS02/307259930/Cochranton-women-told-police-they-beat-buried-homicide-victim

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hm this case is different than the rest of the cases mentioned somehow...

7/30/2012 9:23:50 AM

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I just want to be clear, i'm arguing over consumers' right to boycott the restraunt. I'm not arguing that the government should step-in, in any way.

7/30/2012 9:30:14 AM

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"The real issue here has absolutely nothing to do with gay marriage. The issue is the government's attempt to punish Cathy (via Chick-fil-a) for his rightfully held beliefs and excersised speech. Cathy's speech and beliefs (as well as Chick-fil-a's) have not violated government established boundaries between his own rights and the rights of others. Agreement or disagreement with the content of Cathy's speech is irrelevant. Nonetheless, the governments of Boston and Chicago seek to deny Chick-fil-a based on Cathy's beliefs.""


Well said. To illustrate the point, imagine if the city council of a highly conservative city made it publicly known that they were going to block a business from relocating to that city because the business's owner/management made statements supporting same-sex marriage and donated money to groups that were attempting to legalize/advocate gay and lesbian causes. The media would go apeshit about that too, and with good reason, but the sides would be reversed. The city council would be demonized and branded bigots and hatemongers. So how is this any different?

Not sure whose quote this is, but I think "I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it" is very pertinent here. I disagree with Truett Cathy and with CFA's stance here. I support marriage and its legal protections being accessible to all consenting adults regardless of orientation. But I think these governments saying CFA isn't welcome due to his views are trampling on his rights, and by extension on all of ours.

7/30/2012 2:17:34 PM

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The only solution towards bigotry and hate is to spread even more bigotry and hate.

7/30/2012 3:44:58 PM

Bullet
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Nah, the real solution is just let bigots be bigots, and not stand-up to them and call them out.

7/30/2012 3:51:06 PM

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^^^very well put- I haven't read much of this thread, but I have a feeling that post right there sums up particularly well anything I would have to say here.

[Edited on July 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM. Reason : oops]

7/30/2012 3:51:57 PM

BigHitSunday
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im just so tired of people's beliefs

7/30/2012 3:53:11 PM

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^this



Personally, I choose to take my business somewhere else. I'm glad I have the freedom to do so. Just like they have the freedom to do what they please.

It's been over a year now for me, at first I missed it. Now I could not care less.

[Edited on July 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2012 3:54:56 PM

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