i guess size is what holds both of them back. i have seen them play and i guess that is the deal. although both could definitely play on the App level, im surprised they aren't getting much attention.what are their sizes? demuro looks solid, kornegay looks a little small.
10/30/2007 9:31:52 PM
Interesting tid bit from ESPN, didn't think it needed it's own thread, and I thought yall would find it interesting.http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/highschool/news/story?id=3087983
10/31/2007 10:38:25 AM
^ Damn...
10/31/2007 11:20:08 AM
DeMuro has decent size (about 6'2", maybe 180-200 I'm guessing) and runs the draw like a bull. Kornegay is short (maybe 5'8") but has a big vertical and great athleticism. Both are getting hurt because some folks say it's "the system" that's putting up those numbers, not the athletes. I saw them torch Fuquay-Varina's defense for seven touchdowns (FV has held all their other opponents to 14 points or less), and they were both terrific football players.
10/31/2007 11:59:13 AM
10/31/2007 5:18:22 PM
jesus christoutscored opponents this season 640-0
10/31/2007 5:43:52 PM
This year's ADM numbers are out, to determine who goes into which sub-class (4A vs. 4AA, etc.) Most of the Wake schools are 4AA, but Fuquay-Varina and Middle Creek will be 4A.Indy and West Charlotte will be the top two seeds in the 4AA West, provided Indy beats Butler. The 4AA East will come down to a draw between Garner, South View, and the Leesville/WFR winner. Unless they get upset, Wilmington Hoggard gets the top spot in the 4A East. The 4A West will be wide open, with every team having at least two losses, and no clear favorite.
11/1/2007 7:14:20 AM
Where do the 4A schools play the championship this year? I am a hoggard alum and was hoping it was here or somewhere near...
11/1/2007 11:54:29 PM
lol.. pinecrest actually has a chance to make the playoffs with a (not likely) win over 71st this Friday to go 4-whatever due to the Douglas Byrd forfeits.
11/2/2007 12:02:44 AM
Not here this year...2-A, 2-AA, 1-A .....................Carter-Finley Stadium, Raleigh3-A, 3-AA, 1-AA .................Kenan Stadium, Chapel Hill4-A, 4-AA .............................Groves Stadium, Winston-SalemThe playoff brackets were supposed to be posted tomorrow afternoon for all the classes, but at least some of them will have to be delayed. Bad weather along the coast (winds strong enough that bridges to the Outer Banks have been closed) has forced the postponement of at least two games - First Flight vs. Currituck and Perquimans vs. Plymouth have been re-scheduled for tomorrow afternoon. There may be more games postponed.After tonight's games (including the Leesville-WFR blockbuster), I'll be posting updates on playoff info on my web page at http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rdpasteu/football Staying up late on the last night of the season putting together playoff bracketology stuff has become a tradition for me. There will be lots of coaches, players, and die-hard fans discussing the same (from many sources, not just me) on the NCPreps message boards, as well.
11/2/2007 5:40:12 PM
50, you comin to Cary tonight? I plan on heading up there after I finish up some work. Hopefully the Imps make it a game.Finally some football weather. Senior Night in Cary as well, the boys should come out fired up.
11/2/2007 5:56:04 PM
I wish I were at the FV-Cary game tonight, but I'm out of town instead.http://www.ncpreps.com appears to be down ... that's really unusual, and the timing stinks.[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 7:31 PM. Reason : NCPreps down]
11/2/2007 7:05:25 PM
Wake Forest Rolesville 21, Leesville Road 14Fuquay-Varina 20, Cary 0Athens Drive 21, Green Hope 20 (GH missed a PAT, or they might have pulled the upset of the year)Garner 42, Holly Springs 7[Edited on November 2, 2007 at 9:03 PM. Reason : More scores]
11/2/2007 8:43:38 PM
#14 Butler 21, #1 Independence 20Indy, playing without Coach Tom Knotts (suspended after an altercation with a fan at last night's JV game) loses to an in-state team for the first time in seven years.
11/2/2007 9:19:34 PM
wow at indy and wfr...earl smith is the man
11/2/2007 10:22:50 PM
East Lincoln 28South Iredell 21Drew, just wondering what kind of chance East Lincoln has of being at home next week (if you can figure it out).Other scores from over here:Lincolnton 21North Lincoln 7South Point 21Crest 14Burns 37Kings Mountain 31Mount Pleasant 96CATA (not exactly sure who that is) 0Newton Conover 28Bandys 14AL Brown 45Concord 25Graham 27Cummings 19Avery 28Mitchell 27Brevard 51East Henderson 21Yeah, I heard Knotts was provoked by, of all things, an Indy fan. The JV lost last night (snapping a 73 game winning streak), and they went at it, with Knotts apparently shoving the other guy into a fence. If charges are pressed, this may not be the only game Knotts misses.
11/2/2007 11:26:15 PM
Very slim chances for East Lincoln to be at home...I have them seeded somewhere between 9th and 13th.
11/2/2007 11:40:33 PM
Man, I didn't expect that. They'll be a dangerous team though. They had a 3 week period where they just couldn't do anything right. Outside of that, they've been really good, so they could be a sleeper in what everyone is saying is a weak small 2a.
11/2/2007 11:59:02 PM
Jack Britt beat Scotland County (Terrell Manning) last night.
11/3/2007 8:32:50 AM
Wow, Lumberton almost made it after not seeing the playoffs since 2002. They had 1 win last year and racked up 5 this year in rout to 4th place in the 2-Rivers conference, missing out on 3rd place because Pine Forest won last night.Mike Brill for coach of the year! Haha.
11/3/2007 8:46:48 AM
11/3/2007 9:24:00 AM
Lumberton is in as an at-large, with their 5th win last night.
11/3/2007 9:26:53 AM
Haha that's awesome. Is that officially or just probably?
11/3/2007 9:38:50 AM
It's not official yet (4A and 4AA brackets will go up on http://www.nchsaa.org later this afternoon, but I'm certain that they're in, as a 5-win team. The bubble at that level will be among teams with 4 wins, 2 of them in conference play.There must be an NCSU server issue or something, because I can't access Matlab or my AFS file space. My last predictions on the web page were made with only about half the scores in, so they're complete garbage now, and I can't even post a disclaimer to say so.
11/3/2007 1:22:46 PM
At least some of the playoff brackets are up:4A East(10) Fayetteville Seventy-First (6-5) at (7) Fuquay-Varina (10-1) ($#%$ three-way draws)(15) Wilmington Laney (5-5) at (2) Southern Durham (7-4)(11) Smithfield-Selma (6-5) at (6) New Hanover (6-5) (14) Chapel Hill (5-6) at (3) Middle Creek (6-5) (F-V beat Middle Creek, 33-0)(9) Terry Sanford (6-5) at (8) Fayetteville Pine Forest (5-6)(16) Hoke County (4-7) at (1) Wilmington Hoggard (10-0) (Hoggard is the odds-on favorite)(12) Cape Fear (5-6) at (5) Greenville Rose (8-3) (Rose has won this class four years in a row)(13) Wilmington Ashley (5-6) at (4) Durham Hillside (9-2)
11/3/2007 7:19:48 PM
4A West(10) Boiling Springs Crest (7-4) at (7) East Forsyth (5-6)(15) High Point Central (4-7) at (2) Mount Tabor (8-3)(11) Charlotte Ardrey-Kell (7-4) at (6) Person County (6-4)(14) Charlotte Harding (6-5) at (3) Gastonia Ashbrook (6-5)(9) South Mecklenburg (7-4) at (8) Central Cabarrus (4-7)(16) Alexander Central (4-7) at (1) Watauga County (8-3)(12) North Davidson (7-4) at (5) Asheville A.C. Reynolds (7-3)(13) South Caldwell (6-5) at (4) Pembroke Purnell Swett (8-3)4AA East(10) Southeast Raleigh (8-3) at (7) Raleigh Leesville Road (10-1) (what a first-round game!)(15) Cary (5-6) at (2) Wake Forest-Rolesville (11-0) (setting up a 2nd-round rematch with Leesville)(11) Apex (6-5) at (6) Jack Britt (9-2)(14) Clayton (5-6) at (3) Hope Mills South View (11-0)(9) Raleigh Millbrook (8-3) at (8) West Johnston (7-4) (setting up a 2nd-round rematch with Garner)(16) Durham Jordan (5-6) at (1) Garner (11-0)(12) Raleigh Wakefield (6-5) at (5) Raleigh Athens Drive (10-1) (Athens at Garner would be cool)(13) Raleigh Sanderson (6-5) at (4) New Bern (8-3) 4AA West (a.k.a "The Bracket of Death", because it's absolutely loaded)(10) Charlotte Independence (9-2) at (7) Greensboro Page (7-4) (tough break for conf. champ Page)(15) Lumberton (5-6) at (2) Matthews (Char.) Butler (9-2) (likely 2nd-round rematch with Indy)(11) Scotland County (9-2) at (6) West Mecklenburg (7-4) (14) North Mecklenburg (5-6) at (3) East Burke (10-1)(9) Charlotte Hopewell (10-1) at (8) Greensboro Grimsley (10-1) (First-ever meeting of 10-win teams in 1st rd.)(16) Charlotte Providence (4-7) at (1) West Charlotte (10-1)(12) East Mecklenburg (8-3) at (5) Davie County (7-4)(13) West Forsyth (7-4) at (4) Richmond County (10-1) (Richmond gets fairly easy draw for rds. 1 & 2)
11/3/2007 10:25:34 PM
sucks that leesville dropped so much[Edited on November 3, 2007 at 11:00 PM. Reason : and indy at 10 haha]
11/3/2007 10:59:11 PM
11/3/2007 11:23:13 PM
are the playoff games next friday?
11/3/2007 11:29:24 PM
Yes, next Friday night...kickoff is at 7:30 p.m.
11/4/2007 10:09:49 AM
Leesville vs WFR in the second round? I know that is just the way it happens, but that's how it happend last year when all four cap-7 teams played right beside each other in the bracket. I find it hard to believe that Leesville is a #7 and that for the second year in a row there will most likely be a WFR vs LRHS match up in the second round.
11/4/2007 10:48:40 PM
Is it me or does hoggard have a really good chance of winning the 4A east? that just seeems wayyyyy too easy if you look at it. Also another prediction...INDY is pissed to hell for losing to butler, they go in their and eliminate them again. Just think how good it would have been nationally had indy not lost to that Ohio team and first lost to butler.
11/5/2007 1:00:43 AM
i am a grad. of Cary and all but damn... 5-6 gets you into the playoffs?
11/5/2007 1:02:50 AM
leesville wont get to the 2nd round. Southeast will beat them ... at least thats my prediction Ive got garner over jordan, millbrook, newbern meeting WFR over cary, SE Ral, Southview for the East Championship. Should be a great game. Newbern got lucky with the 4 draw, as I think they would have lost at Athens.Independence at 10 is pretty shocking. Do we know if their coach will be there yet?Richmond County and Garner, for a rematch of the 98-99 Championship game, with Garner finally winning again!! I played that year... We scored the first touchdown of the game, had our expt blocked, and then they blanked us for 30 some odd points the rest of the game. Sucked, but still awesome to have played in it.[Edited on November 5, 2007 at 9:18 AM. Reason : .]
11/5/2007 9:14:37 AM
Supposedly, random draws settle ties for seeding, but some of the potential early-round rematches (WFR-Leesville, Indy-Butler, etc.) make me suspicious.Yes, Cary is in the playoffs at 5-6. Out of 93 teams in 4A, 64 go to the playoffs, so you do the math...Hoggard is a very heavy favorite in the 4A East ... they're 2-3 touchdowns better than anyone else in that bracket. Had they gone 4AA (which they were very close to doing), they would have still been favored (slightly) over Garner, South View, WFR, etc.
11/5/2007 11:02:47 AM
I'm surprised Eastern Randolph got a #4 seed with as bad as they've been this year (though they did finish strong). What's even funnier, though, is conference champ Ragsdale is only a #3 seed.It's also ironic that ER landed Asheboro in the first round, a conference rival and the only team to beat them last year en route to the 3AA State Championship. ER wound up playing Asheboro in the playoffs last year (though in a later round) and getting sweet revenge for the regular season loss. We beat them this year though, so I hope we can do it in the playoffs also. I'll be at that game Friday night.
11/5/2007 11:19:43 AM
HAHA GO HOGGARD arent they #1 in the state now?
11/5/2007 12:02:55 PM
Go J.H. Rose Rampants...take it to Cape Fear on Friday!!
11/5/2007 4:21:44 PM
Rose had better enjoy their game Friday, because it's going to get a lot tougher after that. In the second round, they'll be visiting PAC co-champ Durham Hillside. If they survive that, they get to back to Wilmington to face the Hoggard Vikings (who took them apart in a regular-season game).The AP poll comes out tomorrow (or maybe Wednesday). Hoggard, Butler, or West Charlotte could be #1 in 4A. In my Fantastic 50 rankings, Charlotte Latin will be #1 overall this week, the first time ever a private school has held the top spot.
11/5/2007 8:03:44 PM
fantastic,i was just wondering what your thoughts on re-alignment are. I am pretty sure my former school is gonna drop to 2-A, but does the NCHSAA usually screw up alignment similar to the way they did the playoffs
11/6/2007 2:41:02 PM
Realignment is straight-forward enough that it's hard to foul it up. They take the enrollment of all the member schools (including about 20-25 that don't play football), put them in order, and split them into four groups of equal number, which become 1A, 2A, 3A, and 4A classes. The only debatable issue is coming up with the enrollment numbers they use (because of school-within-a-school academies, schools without freshmen, etc.)The real issue in football has been vast differences in enrollment between teams in the same playoff class; going to eight classifications (1A, 1AA, 2A, etc.) was overkill. The problem occurred because of a few very large schools (2500+) and a few very small schools (<350). My preference would be to go to six classifications for football only, with the 1A and 6A having half as many teams as the others.The NCHSAA has already said that they will not go to 5A or 6A for the 2009-2013 realignment period, but might consider it for fall 2013. The football selection and seeding process, however, is likely to change as soon as next year; in the last week, I've talked via e-mail to a lot of coaches and a couple of athletic directors who are steaming mad over some of this year's football playoff messes.
11/6/2007 4:53:02 PM
^^ Did you hear about the brawl between the Bertie and Hertford bands, at halftime last Friday?http://ncpreps.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1112&tid=104663382&mid=104663382&sid=958&style=2Odds on reaching the state championship game4AA West(W10) Independence 3:2 (seven-time defending state champ in this class)(W1) West Charlotte 3:1 (last year's 4A West champ)(W2) Butler 6:1(W4) Richmond Senior 14:14AA East (last year's eastern champ, Riverside, didn't make the playoffs)(E1) Garner 2:1(E3) South View 3:1(E2) Wake Forest-Rolesville 6:1(E4) New Bern 8:1(E7) Leesville Road 13:1(E6) Jack Britt 15:14A West (West Charlotte is 4AA this year)(W3) Ashbrook 3:1(W10) Crest 6:1(W9) South Mecklenburg 6:1(W5) AC Reynolds 7:1(W1) Watauga 7:1(W2) Mt. Tabor 12:14A East (E1) Hoggard 1:3 (odds-on)(E4) Hillside 15:1(E7) Fuquay-Varina 16:1(E2) Southern Durham 25:1(E6) New Hanover 35:1(E5) JH Rose 35:1 (four-time defending state champ)(E3) Middle Creek 45:13AA West(W2) South Point 3:2(W5) Charlotte Catholic 7:1 (last year's 3AA West champ)(W1) Hickory 8:1(W6) T.C. Roberson 9:1(W4) AL Brown 9:13AA East(E7) Dudley 3:1(E2) NE Guilford 3:1(E6) Wilson Hunt 8:1(E3) Nash Central 9:1(E4) Eastern Randolph 9:1 (defending 3AA state champ)(E1) Webb 12:13A West(W1) WS Carver 3:1(W6) North Gaston 3:1(W4) Asheville High 4:1(W3) West Rowan 6:1(W2) Anson County 12:1(W11) Concord 300:1 (defending 3A state champ)3A East(E1) Western Alamance 5:6 (last year's 3A east champ)(E3) Rocky Mount 2:1(E12) SW Edgecombe 13:12AA West(W1) Shelby 1:3 (two-time defending 2AA state champ)(W2) Mt. Pleasant 4:12AA East(E1) Reidsville 1:3(E2) Southern Vance 4:1 (last year's 2A East champ)2A West(W4) Brevard 3:1(W5) Lincolnton 4:1(W3) Newton-Conover 4:1(W10) East Lincoln 16:1(W6) Owen 17:1(W1) Wilkes Central 17:1(W7) Monroe 20:12A East(E1) South Columbus 2:3(E2) Northside-Jax 2:1(E16) Clinton 300:1 (last year's 2A east champ)(E12) Cummings 400:1 (defending 2A state champ, from the west)1AA West(W2) Thomasville 1:1 (three-time defending 1AA state champ)(W1) Mt. Airy 2:1(W3) Polk 16:1(W6) West Montgomery 20:11AA East(E2) James Kenan 1:3 (last year's 1AA east champ)(E5) Ayden Grifton 14:1(E4) Pender 18:11A West(W1) North Duplin 1:6 (the heaviest favorite of all)(W2) Cherokee 12:1(W7) Elkin 190:1 (two-time defending 1A state champ)1A East(E1) Plymouth 1:4(E2) Williamston 14:1(E8) Manteo 65:1 (last year's 1A east state champ)
11/6/2007 8:33:08 PM
Suspended Independence coach Tom Knotts will be reinstated on Monday, so he'll be back for the second round of the playoffs, provided the Patriots advance.http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/354221.html
11/8/2007 8:32:51 PM
yeah, unfortunately i was at the game. Hertford is just too young to compete. Bertie's QB looks like he could be college ready at a small D-1 but i cant even find a profile for him on the internet.He torched Rose for over 400 yds in a comeback loss in week 2.Either way, I think Rocky Mount has the best chance in the 3-A east
11/8/2007 9:51:26 PM
A Rocky Mount-Western Alamance final in the 3A East would amount to a state championship game, as those are by far the best two teams in that class.Is anyone attending the Athens-Wakefield or Leesville-SER games willing to help me out by trading scores? The guy that gets scores for me will be following about 10-12 games by phone, and will be happy to pass along any of the ones we have that you want to know.
11/9/2007 8:57:55 AM
I was at the Western Alamance game tonight and even though the score was 42-8, Western looked bad. If Rocky Mount has a good defense, then Western won't win that game. Western has put Rocky Mount out of the playoffs for the past 2 years, the first was when Rocky Mount had the 1 seed, so I am sure Rocky Mount will come to play.
11/9/2007 10:27:02 PM
Can someone post a score of the Person High game if they get it?
11/9/2007 10:39:48 PM
Fuquay-Varina 20, Seventy-First 134AA EastLeesville over SERWFR (coming from behind) over Cary(Jack Britt vs. Apex)South View over ClaytonMillbrook over West JohnstonGarner over Durham JordanAthens Drive (barely) over WakefieldNew Bern over Sanderson4A EastFuquay-Varina over 71stSouthern Durham over Wilmington LaneyNew Hanover over Smithfield-Selma, in OTChapel Hill upsets Middle Creek(Pine Forest vs. Terry Sanford)Hoggard over HokeG'ville Rose over Cape Fear(Durham Hillside vs. Wilmington Ashley)4AA WestIndependence wins at G'boro Page, 54-7 !East Meck upsets Davie CountyRichmond survives against West Forsyth
11/9/2007 10:55:14 PM
Aside from letting Asheboro run the opening drive back to the 6, which led to their only score, Eastern Randolph looked fairly solid. Not much passing but a solid running game. They need better play calling though if they want to defend their title. ER rolls 19-7.The night was capped by more good news. Arch-rival Ragsdale lost to Parkland 28-24. So long suckers
11/9/2007 10:55:47 PM
^^^ Ardrey-Kell 31, Person 14South Meck forfeits to Central Cabarrus, after discovering that one of their players was ineligible.Locally, the upset of the night was #14 Chapel Hill over #3 Middle Creek, in the 4A East.Other upsets...(3A East) #13 West Craven wins after the long bus ride to #4 Eastern Alamance(3AA West) As mentioned above, #14 Parkland over #3 Ragsdale(3A East) #15 Southern Lee over #2 South Johnston
11/9/2007 11:57:49 PM