this guy seems to hold the honor as top sports talk troll

will he make the all time list? only time will tell...

9/11/2006 11:55:03 AM

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"Bush is only up 1 to nothing? I thought before yesterday's games he was already up like 10,000 to nothing?"

He obviously is, but you tards wanted more than the obvious. So I am keeping score to show you that you are all wrong.

9/11/2006 3:23:25 PM

I'm tired of your consistently shitty attitude and negativity MacTuckizzle.

Did I already suspend one of your previous incarnations?

9/11/2006 3:25:30 PM

Like I sent you in my PM. I have made exactly one thread dealing with anything related to NCSU since I have been back. And thats on a topic that was talked about in an article on ESPN, which is a highly debated topic on here. And as I mentioned, NCSU and the Panthers both lost this weekend, and you barely heard a whimper from me on those losses. And the Panthers even lost to my Falcons, and I hardly said anything about it. The old me would have been all over the boards talking shit, but I am trying to get better about trolling on here, and I didn't.

9/11/2006 3:38:20 PM

TERMINATE

9/11/2006 5:34:18 PM

Mario Williams - $276,071 per tackle


[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 8:18 PM. Reason : 3 tackles, gg]

9/11/2006 8:16:16 PM

Reggie Bush - $Infinity per point

9/11/2006 8:27:51 PM

per sack, per forced fumble, per interception , per tackle for loss, per batted down ball, per forced penalty

List everything that makes a defensive lineman good and ill build a rubric


you can start with, yards per carry, receptions, yards per reception, YAC and wins


emphasis on wins

[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 8:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/11/2006 8:32:25 PM

j. pep, whom announcers and analysts cream their pants over, had 3 tackles as well.

9/11/2006 8:35:17 PM

You're right. Peppers and company on carolinas defense got run all the fuck over and completly dominated by Vick. Good thing Houston is a favored superbowl contender as well.

[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 8:39 PM. Reason : ,]

9/11/2006 8:38:25 PM

What they really need to be creaming about is the awesome easy INT Peppers made yesterday on Vick.

9/11/2006 8:39:42 PM

Stuff that makes a lineman good doesn't even show up on stat sheets.

Double teams, applying pressure, batted balls (sometimes shows up), filling running holes, etc.

That said, it takes longer for linemen to adjust to the NFL than it does RB's, I won't argue that Bush didn't have a much better showing his first game than Mario did, because he did.

But even if Bush ends up better than Mario, this is the dumbest topic title ever. Does anyone think that Mario over Reggie is a worse pick than Darko over D Wade?

Anyone here think Bush will win the Saints a championship in 3 years?

9/11/2006 8:40:04 PM

if enough gary peyton sell outs transfer, anything is possible

terribly analogy (football!=basketball), excuse yourself from the thread

9/11/2006 8:41:07 PM

^4 i'm not sure i see your point. are you saying that houston is worse, so mario should get more tackles? cause i dont think it matters as to the quality of your own team as much as it does the personnel they put on him and his experience and technique he'll get from playing time. in both those categories, peppers has far more than williams, and yet had an equally productive game.

this comparison BS is gonna plague mario for years.

[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 8:42 PM. Reason : .]

9/11/2006 8:41:40 PM

^^ WTF, the whole thread is based on a football to basketball analogy dumbass.


[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 8:43 PM. Reason : spelling]

9/11/2006 8:41:48 PM

you dont know the first thing about football andy

9/11/2006 8:42:45 PM

Actually Quinn, I do know a few things about football.

I was just saying that Mario over Bush is not the "worse move since Bowie over MJ"

do you disagree?

9/11/2006 8:44:33 PM

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"^^ WTF, the whole thread is based on a football to basketball analogy dumbass. "

No its not.

9/11/2006 8:54:13 PM

i was just trying to troll

9/11/2006 9:17:32 PM

Even more proof now after the start of the season, that its pretty obvious the Texans made the wrong choice....

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"1. Houston: Even five months after the fact, it is difficult to fathom that the Texans opted for Williams over Bush with the top selection. For all the rationalization the Houston brass has done, and for all the whispers that emanated from a management team about the inability to strike a contract agreement with Bush and agent Joel Segal, the Texans know in their hearts that was a contrived excuse. If the Texans made the call truly based on position, as former general manager Charley Casserly insisted last weekend in his new role as a CBS studio analyst, so be it. Whether we buy the logic or not doesn't matter. But if the pick were made today, not on April 29, the guess is that the "signability" myth would be out the window and Bush would be the Texans' starting tailback. "

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2588834

9/16/2006 11:40:14 PM

b/c a column on espn is "proof"

9/16/2006 11:42:24 PM

Well no offense, but the numbers so far are adding up. And I will take that over anyones opinion on here, including my own.....

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"But, c'mon, don't you think that if the Houston Texans were exercising the top overall selection in the draft now, instead of on April 29, tailback Reggie Bush would have been the choice? We're not talking about hindsight, just the present view, OK? And currently the Houston brass is looking through a prism that does not include starting tailback Domanick Davis, shelved for the season by a knee injury. With 70 rushing yards in last week's season-opening loss to the Eagles, the Texans were forced to start sixth-rounder Wali Lundy and to scramble for veteran backups. Bush must have looked pretty good from afar to a Texans brain trust that remains pretty sensitive when questioned about the first pick. In his debut for New Orleans, the elusive Bush totaled 141 all-purpose yards. Defensive end Mario Williams, the player selected ahead of Bush, had two solo tackles and one assist and, according to the coaching staff, had some problems with assignment and alignment in the opener. "

I mean, I am sorry guys, I know Mario went to NCSU, but you need to dig your heads out of the holes they are in. Pretty much EVERY SINGLE PERSON involved in the NFL and pro sports says taking Mario #1 was the WRONG choice. I dont know what else has to happen before you realize this.

[Edited on September 16, 2006 at 11:48 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2006 11:46:08 PM

Im sure the Texans knew Dominack Davis, a RB who would start for a lot of teams was going to get hurt.

9/16/2006 11:47:42 PM

How many people have bought a ticket JUST to see him play, how many jerseys of his have you seen fans wearing? Id say almost none. Who has more potential. Thats right, all go to Bush. You lose, don't even try to argue this, because I am too tired to drag up all the websites that prove you wrong. How about this.....go find ALL the articles you can....on major websites that say Mario was THE RIGHT choice at #1, and for every one you find, I will find 10 more that say Bush is.

And if websites arent enough, Mario didnt even get mentioned once last week except for the fact that he wasn't even an issue, and went #1, and Bush did better, and Mario went #1, and what were the Texans thinking.

[Edited on September 16, 2006 at 11:52 PM. Reason : .]

9/16/2006 11:51:19 PM

the point is that i don't know anything about running a pro football team, and i'd guess that you don't either.

but that's not fair, b/c you watch sportscenter.

9/16/2006 11:55:45 PM

You are right, I don't either. But why does almost everyone involved in sports, except the pros on this site, say it was the wrong choice. Hell, the Texans almost admitted it, they fired the guy who drafted him #1!!!! What else has to happen before you people will admit Mario was the wrong player to take at #1?? Everyone who has anything to do with the NFL says it was, and even people on here says it was. What else do you want??

[Edited on September 16, 2006 at 11:59 PM. Reason : /]

9/16/2006 11:57:45 PM

I'm not here to hate on Bush, but he did have those numbers last week at Cleveland who was third worst in the NFL in rushing Defense last year. Any one of about 30 guys in the NFL could have done that. Also keep in mind that Mario was Constantly Double teammed the whole game by a veteran O-line who played in the Superbowl less than two years ago. Not to mention that he was playing directly over perenial ALL-Pro tackle John Runyun. He also freed up Demeco Ryan who I believe had 13 tackles. Bush may have won round one, but there are early signs that Houston's D-fence first approach will pay off.

oh, and the reason the Texans can't run the ball is that they don't have an O-line, not beacause they dont have Reggie Bush.

9/17/2006 8:28:43 AM

you morons the texans wern't looking for another damn running back -- the WORST team in the nation wanted to START building a defense so they won't get raped every season......DEFENSE wins Championships......besides bush is an ass - another person who thought they could get away with breaking all the ncaa rules, i hope the ncaa takes away every damn championship the trojans had with him, and burns his heisman trophy on national television......i wouldnt touch this ass who threatened to hold out after "only" getting $50M and $40M+ in endorsements - he's a joke and a load of baggage the texans didn't want to deal with......besides his stats suck - he's not any better than any other good running back out there.

9/17/2006 11:17:32 AM

So the fact that Rivers held out for more money isn't the same huh?

^haha, and you hate Bush so bad you are blinded by your hate and not able to see just what an asset he is.

[Edited on September 17, 2006 at 3:56 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2006 3:56:16 PM

He absolutely should lose his Heisman trophy and if he doesn't it only shows how the NCAA completely pusses out on regulating it's marquee teams.

9/17/2006 4:05:06 PM

The NCAA doesn't award the Heisman.

9/17/2006 4:05:52 PM

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"but you don't pass up on Reggie Bush."

uhhhh, ok,


I don't think either of them have demonstrated that they will be pro-bowlers or MVP's

9/17/2006 4:12:35 PM

Exactly. And thats why you take Bush. He has more potential and will/does have a more economic impact.

9/17/2006 4:28:22 PM

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"Exactly. And thats why you take Bush. He has more potential and will/does have a more economic impact."

If you want to draft by potential and marketability, you go with all-upside QB and hometown hero Vince Young.

9/17/2006 4:37:11 PM

Yes, but since they signed Carr to a big contract before the draft, that wasn't an option. But yes, even Young would have been a better choice than Mario.

[Edited on September 17, 2006 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .]

9/17/2006 4:42:19 PM

how'd that shitty rb deuce mcallister do today?

9/17/2006 4:53:08 PM

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"even Young would have been a better choice than Mario."

we'll see about that one.

9/17/2006 4:53:54 PM

Mario sucked balls again. Peyton 400 yards.

9/17/2006 9:14:27 PM

Bush 2-0

9/17/2006 9:15:40 PM

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"Reggie Bush 6 5 0.8 0 6 "

He's on fire!

9/17/2006 9:17:27 PM

See, thats the point, he doesn't have to be every game. But Mario will have to have a top notch badass game over and over and over to prove he was the right choice at #1. Bush doesn't even have to play that day to take a win over Mario. Unless Mario has a totally badass highlight day, he loses.

[Edited on September 17, 2006 at 9:19 PM. Reason : /.]

9/17/2006 9:19:22 PM

^[no], you lose, troll

9/17/2006 9:26:45 PM

i think its stupid period that anyone still talks about this
all of you are idiots for arguing something so moot at this point in time

9/17/2006 9:42:29 PM

^^When you are the #1 pick, and your entire town didn't want you as the #1 pick, then yes, you better start having some top quality games real fast or its gonna be a long long road ahead.

9/17/2006 9:59:22 PM

it's the interweb ... pointless and stupid is it's domain

9/17/2006 10:00:05 PM

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"The NCAA doesn't award the Heisman. "

No but they do rule whether a player is eligible or not. If Reggie Bush is ruled ineligible then he will have his Heisman taken.

9/18/2006 4:54:15 PM

I love how you guys are ignoring his 8 catches for 68 yards...

and his sensational one handed grab....

and the punt return where he juked about 5 guys and looked like the 2nd coming of Dante Hall


I guess those don't count for anything...

9/18/2006 5:27:30 PM

^WOW 2nd coming of a good returner with one good year of good returning. let's all blow him now!

9/18/2006 5:34:17 PM

^What has Mario done so far? Thats right......2-0 Bush

9/18/2006 6:06:06 PM

can we please be adults and agree that bush has a lot more around him than mario does?

9/18/2006 6:35:02 PM