Sean Peyton

11/4/2012 10:19:44 AM

This was pretty embarrassing

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" Dear Wolfpack Family, I am writing to share with you the status of the search for our new head coach for men’s basketball. There have been telephone conversations with successful coaches that did not develop into meetings — sometimes because we did not wish to pursue those coaches further and sometimes because the coach involved is happy where he is. The conversations have been candid. We have not tried to sugarcoat the challenge of rebuilding our basketball program. Our absence for 5 consecutive years from the NCAA Tournament was noted by each coach as evidence that the program is in poor shape and will require a special effort to rebuild. Finding a coach with the fight and fire to do this job has been a challenge. That said, we will find an excellent college coach who shares the vision of what State Basketball can become and is up for the challenge. I realize there are multiple rumors surfacing about the nature of the search on websites and in newspapers. Once our new coach is hired, I will be in a position to bring perspective to a number of those rumors. But, right now, we need to remain focused on finding a talented collegiate coach who is a fighter, full of confidence and appreciation for the opportunity to lead our basketball program back to national prominence. That will happen in spite of those who believe this cannot occur. Wolfpack Basketball is destined for a revival. We will accept no less. Please keep the faith while we continue the search. Your emails and text messages of support have meant everything to me. I am blessed to be your AD. In the Spirit of the Pack, Debbie "

11/4/2012 10:29:57 AM

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" Josh Heupel - oklahoma OC"

pass. if you're gonna take a young coordinator, take the best, not the guy who has killed Landry Jones NFL prospects.

KINGSBURY ALL THE WAY.


(for those that don't know, he is the OC for Texas A&M and their heisman candidate QB Johnny "Football" Manziel. Dude is like a better, taller Russell Wilson.)

11/4/2012 11:54:44 AM

Some are pipe-dreams, but:
Kirby Smart
Mark Helfrich
Bob Diaco
John Chavis
Tom Herman
Kliff Kingsbury
Pat Narduzzi
Todd Monken
Greg Mattison

11/4/2012 2:03:27 PM

I would bust a nut if we got mattison

11/4/2012 2:34:59 PM

I want to see DY's mass e-mail after this loss

11/4/2012 3:52:44 PM

ken niumatalolo

11/4/2012 3:55:02 PM

lol

11/4/2012 4:33:47 PM

we could make "ken niumata#yolo" shirts, so we'd have that going for us!

also, if theres one thing that man can do, its embarrass ECU in greenville. so we wouldnt have to worry about that.

11/4/2012 4:37:03 PM

Face it. If we go to a bowl, TOB will be our coach next year. If we win one more game, we go to a bowl. A shitty one, but a bowl nonetheless.
One of our remaining opponents is the worst team in the ACC. (No, that is not us, despite what some of you may think.) Wake isn't much better. We probably won't get blown out by Clemson, even, as we tend to play up to the level of quality competition. Doubt we'll win but I doubt it will be an embarrasment.

I don't love it either. But with 3 years left on the contract, a big buyout, and having finished the season at .500 or better, it's the only thing that makes sense. Plus, with the cupboard looking pretty bare for next season, there may be more than enough losses to justify waking this one back up.

11/4/2012 9:00:34 PM

Wake is better than UVA...

11/4/2012 10:44:10 PM

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"Kliff Kingsbury"

I remember watching that guy play us in 2002. He was a hell of QB at Texas Tech.

Man, I'm getting old...

11/4/2012 10:51:40 PM

Oh I'm pretty clearly not a TOB fine, but the only way I see him getting fired is if he loses out

11/4/2012 10:53:05 PM

Yep, unless he loses out or loses 3 of the next 4 (assuming we make a bowl game) I think it's pretty unlikely that he gets fired this year. Next year will be the judgement year with a new QB and lower expectations.

11/4/2012 11:20:36 PM

in that case i'm pulling for a 1-3 or 0-4 finish

11/4/2012 11:39:40 PM

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"Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC Mark Helfrich - Oregon OC"

Please dear Jesus.

11/4/2012 11:43:47 PM

yea that would be pretty fucking sweet. of the list that I posted, he'd be my favorite

11/4/2012 11:44:44 PM

Debbie is not going to hire an assistant. Sorry guys.

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"in that case i'm pulling for a 1-3 or 0-4 finish"

Surprise!

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 7:49 AM. Reason : .]

11/5/2012 7:48:38 AM

I don't understand why a mediocre program like NC State is too good to hire a coordinator. Typically a coordinator will come more cheaply and we may strike gold.

I was not a supporter of firing TOB until this UVA debacle as I don't know how we can afford it unless a major booster steps in. That game on Saturday was just plain embarrassing on all levels. I'd be in favor of just firing TOB, promoting Tenuta at this point. Our recruiting is so awful that it makes no difference if TOB is retained.

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM. Reason : Also fuck off to any "fan" that is rooting for us to lose. You are a shitty person.]

11/5/2012 9:10:46 AM

We aren't...but Debbie wants head coaching experience. She's stated that many times.

11/5/2012 9:12:57 AM

In addition to not losing out, I would hope that staff changes are a requirement of TOB keeping his job but I'm not sure about that. At our level you don't rock the boat too much if you are on a bowl streak, unfortunately.

11/5/2012 9:14:56 AM

^ agreed.

And there's a 23 page thread on packpride about "legitimate" options for a new football coach. Maybe my favorite post from that thread:

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" packman1981 wrote: Some of the names being tossed around this run-away train thread are ridiculous. I say, let's come up with the $6 Mill it will take to hire Bill Cowher and the top-quality assistants he wants. And fyi, don't say we could never get him."

11/5/2012 9:19:20 AM

Going to a bowl doesn't mean jack shit anymore.

Back when like 30 teams made bowls you could hang your hat on such things, but now teams with losing records even make bowls. It is no measure of real success in college football.

11/5/2012 9:22:23 AM

A former head coach, you say? I know a couple that would love to come back to the Wolfpack Family.





[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 9:28 AM. Reason : v]

11/5/2012 9:27:01 AM

But do the 6-6 bowls bring money?

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"We aren't...but Debbie wants head coaching experience. She's stated that many times."

Was that in reference to a bb coach only, or all coaches in general?

11/5/2012 9:30:08 AM

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"Going to a bowl doesn't mean jack shit anymore. "

11/5/2012 9:36:51 AM

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"Was that in reference to a bb coach only, or all coaches in general?"

In general...especially for the major sports.

11/5/2012 9:46:06 AM

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"Back when like 30 teams made bowls you could hang your hat on such things, but now teams with losing records even make bowls. "

Teams with .500 records make bowls, and then lose, finishing the season with a losing record. I think it's an NCAA rule that you cannot go to a bowl with a losing regular-season record.

11/5/2012 9:55:19 AM

The Bruins were 6-7 last season

[Edited on November 5, 2012 at 2:09 PM. Reason : before losing to Illinois in the kraft whatever bowl]

11/5/2012 2:08:45 PM

yep, it's regular season. If you somehow make your conference championship at 6-6 and lose, you are still bowl eligible, like the Bruins last year

11/5/2012 5:41:54 PM

I usually hate to post any ESPN insider stuff out of principle...but this is so amazing I couldn't resist. This is from a list of the top jobs that could be opening up this year...

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"3. North Carolina State Wolfpack Current coach: Tom O'Brien | Current record: 5-4 This is the only school on this list with a winning record and, quite frankly, wasn't on my "Would you take this job?" list when I started calling around. But nearly everyone I talked to brought it up as a position they expected to be opening, and one they would salivate over. "Have you seen the facilities in Raleigh?" a West Coast coordinator asked. "If you were at that stadium 15 years ago and then you were there over the last year, then you can see how committed they are to the program. That fan base is a sleeping football giant. And there is a ton of talent in North Carolina that leaves every year. O'Brien is a good X's and O's guy but he's never taken to recruiting. Get a real recruiter in there and he would mop up." From the outside, the idea of taking an ACC job might seem like the wrong direction. But everyone I talked to said the opposite -- as long as it's the right ACC job. "That conference is ripe for the picking," the West Coast coordinator continued. "It would take no time at all to start racking up big numbers and getting BCS berths. You can make a hell of a living doing that. Just ask Virginia Tech. NC State is the kind of place that can get to that level, and in a hurry. The other ACC jobs that might be out there -- Boston College and Maryland -- they're a hundred miles behind State.""

11/9/2012 3:40:55 PM

^ I like the tone of that article. And I am hoping that it excites some coaching prospects to come this way. A good recruiter along with that. I don't dislike TOB, I just never thought he as good as a coach as people claimed.

I would like to see an exciting coaching staff come in and make some noise.


III

11/9/2012 3:46:50 PM

^,^^ I'm a TOB fan, and would really rather see him win enough to keep his job until he retires.

I doubt if Debbie Yow really wants to have to hire a basketball coach in her first year, and a football coach in her 2nd (or third, you get my point), and I don't really think anyone considers TOB more than a placeholder - someone to get the program respectable (on/off field), not a coach to really inflate expectations.

With that said, that one west-coast coordinator's opinion makes me hopeful that our reputation is high, and maybe we could step up when a change comes.

11/9/2012 3:59:21 PM

^^^ that is exactly what the fuck ive been saying for years and i catch shit for saying that stuff from the idiots on here

this is from a dude who gets fucking paid to coach football

so you can all slob on my knob

[Edited on November 9, 2012 at 4:04 PM. Reason : c]

11/9/2012 4:04:19 PM

So you are saying ToB is a good coach and as long as he gets a good recruiter, we are all set?

11/9/2012 4:10:23 PM

^^TOB actually gets paid to coach football too, he has for a while. and you don't.

11/9/2012 4:14:00 PM

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"O'Brien is a good X's and O's guy"

11/9/2012 4:50:24 PM

James Franklin

11/9/2012 4:53:44 PM

Jeff Jagodzinski. Already won 2 division titles with TOBs players.

11/9/2012 5:02:06 PM

Someone tell me about Kansas State's football history.

11/11/2012 10:05:39 AM

You would think that a good X and O guy could dial up an exciting trick play every now and then

Or manage a game

Or make good clock management decisions

11/11/2012 10:13:37 AM

Dave Doeren

11/14/2012 12:41:56 AM

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"Someone tell me about Kansas State's football history."

Awful until Bill Snyder. I remember one of those ESPN top 20 shows from about a decade ago that had one of their teams in the 80s as one of the worst teams ever in any sport.

11/14/2012 9:44:06 AM

Yeah K-State may have had the worst college football program of any in a major conference prior to Bill Snyder.

When Snyder retired a few years ago and became the AD, Ron fatass Prince took over and while he did a decent job recruiting (Josh Freeman and Colin Klein), he was awful as a coach. Snyder fired him, took back over, and now has K-State poised to play for a National Championship and has the Heisman favorite.

Snyder is a god at finding and retaining the juco talent that is all over that area. Watch his teams and you'll rarely see them making basic mistakes like being out of position, missing tackles, giving up huge special team plays, etc. I wish we could find a guy like Snyder as State would be a great place for a coach like him.

11/14/2012 10:14:22 AM

I wish we could find our own urban meyer, state would be a great place for a coach like him.

11/14/2012 11:22:00 AM

I wish we could find our own Tom Landry, state would be a great place for a coach like him.

I wish we could find our own Ditka, state would be a great place for a hurricane like him.

[Edited on November 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM. Reason : ,]

11/14/2012 11:26:19 AM

http://vanderbilt.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1436563&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

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"According to a source close to the Vanderbilt athletics program, VU head football coach James Franklin has turned down the opportunity to speak with North Carolina State about their open head coaching position. North Carolina State's interest in Franklin hardly comes as a surprise. Wolfpack athletics director Debbie Yow served as Maryland's athletics director when Franklin was an assistant there under Ralph Friedgen. On February 6, 2009, Yow named Franklin the Terrapin's so-called Head Coach in Waiting. But Franklin left Maryland for Vanderbilt before Friedgen was released from his contract."

wat

11/15/2012 8:23:09 AM

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"OPEN HEAD COACHING POSITION"

¿Que? What's all this then?

11/15/2012 8:31:06 AM

wat

11/15/2012 8:55:53 AM

LOLZ

11/15/2012 8:58:10 AM