sounds like all the anti-zimmerman camp is dead set that it's impossible to get a shot off when you are being assaulted.... let's turn this political for a minute since obama took personal offense to this particular crime.so having a better job and making more $ = less crimebetter private sector = better jerbs for peoplebut yeh lets ignore that and grow the govt and raise taxes on people that work hard and get good jobsobama preaches 1 thing.. equality... sounds great... but then sets up an environment to promote more crime.[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ,]
3/24/2012 8:49:07 PM
3/24/2012 9:07:35 PM
http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martinand http://news.yahoo.com/video/orlandowesh-16122564/sanford-police-speak-out-in-trayvon-martin-case-28640523.htmlsomething tells me the full blown retards are about to go crazy after this one....Here's an update from the Chicago warzone just during the weekend by black and latino gangs:
3/24/2012 9:11:37 PM
^ So the police department told the examiner that Treyvon's father said that the voice was not his son's after the police department (presumably) played it for him.Is this correct?
3/24/2012 9:46:29 PM
The Examiner is a a news aggregator. Its like a shitty version of HuffPo.The police told the Orlando Sentinel that they played a recording of the 911 call and that Treyvon's father said that it wasn't his son screaming. Just click on the 2nd link.[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 10:08 PM. Reason : 2]
3/24/2012 10:07:33 PM
but if he clicked on the second link he would have to give up his completely flawed argumentI bet he won't do that Rut rohhttp://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html#/video/crime/2012/03/24/sot-wesh-panther-presser-muhammad.wesh?hpt=hp_bn1The black panthers are gearing up for kidnapping Zimmerman and warning white America of revenge [Edited on March 24, 2012 at 11:03 PM. Reason : .]
3/24/2012 10:59:48 PM
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
3/25/2012 12:05:51 AM
^^^, ^^ I watched the 2nd link the first time it was posted. It was a video and I don't remember it establishing this fact about the father's statement. Please watch it again in case my memory isn't correct and earn yourself rights to insult me again.
3/25/2012 12:17:18 AM
3/25/2012 12:39:34 AM
Since you've been afraid to confront me in the Chit Chat thread, please address the following points:http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/18/446768/what-everyone-should-know-about-about-trayvon-martin-1995-2012/1. Zimmerman called the police to report Martin’s “suspicious” behavior, which he described as “just walking around looking about.” Zimmerman was in his car when he saw Martin walking on the street. He called the police and said: “There’s a real suspicious guy. This guy looks like he’s up to no good, on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about… These a**holes always get away” [Orlando Sentinel]2. Zimmerman pursued Martin against the explicit instructions of the police dispatcher:Dispatcher: “Are you following him?”Zimmerman: “Yeah”Dispatcher: “OK, we don’t need you to do that.”[Orlando Sentinel]3. Prior to the release of the 911 tapes, Zimmerman’s father released a statement claiming “[a]t no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin.” [Sun Sentinel]4. Zimmerman was carrying a 9 millimeter handgun. Martin was carrying a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. [ABC News]5. Martin weighed 140 pounds. Zimmerman weighs 250 pounds. [Orlando Sentinel; WDBO]6. Martin’s English teacher described him “as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness.” [Orlando Sentinel]7. Martin had no criminal record. [New York Times]8. Zimmerman “was charged in July 2005 with resisting arrest with violence and battery on an officer. The charges appear to have been dropped.” [Huffington Post]9. Zimmerman called the police 46 times since Jan. 1, 2011. [Miami Herald]10. According to neighbors, Zimmerman was “fixated on crime and focused on young, black males.” [Miami Herald]11. Zimmerman “had been the subject of complaints by neighbors in his gated community for aggressive tactics” [Huffington Post]12. A police officer “corrected” a key witness. “The officer told the witness, a long-time teacher, it was Zimmerman who cried for help, said the witness. ABC News has spoken to the teacher and she confirmed that the officer corrected her when she said she heard the teenager shout for help.” [ABC News]13. Three witnesses say they heard a boy cry for help before a shot was fired. “Three witnesses contacted by The Miami Herald say they saw or heard the moments before and after the Miami Gardens teenager’s killing. All three said they heard the last howl for help from a despondent boy.” [Miami Herald]14. The officer in charge of the crime scene also received criticism in 2010 when he initially failed to arrest a lieutenant’s son who was videotaped attacking a homeless black man. [New York Times]15. The police did not test Zimmerman for drugs or alcohol. A law enforcement expert told ABC that Zimmerman sounds intoxicated on the 911 tapes. Drug and alcohol testing is “standard procedure in most homicide investigations.” [ABC News]16. In a cell phone call moments before his death, Martin told a teenage girl that he was “hounded by a strange man on a cellphone who ran after him, cornered him and confronted him.” “‘He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man,’ Martin’s friend said. ‘I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run.’ Eventually he would run, said the girl, thinking that he’d managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin. ‘Trayvon said, ‘What, are you following me for,’ and the man said, ‘What are you doing here.’” [ABC News]17. Police have Trayvon Martin’s cell phone but never contacted his girlfriend. [Miami Herald]18. Zimmerman told the police “he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on when Trayvon attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck.” “He said he feared for his life and fired the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry because he feared for his life.” [Miami Herald]19. The incident occurred in a tiny gated community Zimmerman patrolled regularly. [Miami Herald]20. Zimmerman was not a member of a registered Neighborhood Watch group. Zimmerman also violated basic Neighborhood Watch guidelines by carrying a weapon. [ABC News]21. The police reports were amended to bolster Zimmerman’s claim of self defense. “Initial police reports never mentioned that Zimmerman had a bloody nose or a wet shirt that showed evidence of a struggle.” [Miami Herald]22. Police ignored witness whose account was different from Zimmerman’s.“One of the witnesses who heard the crying said she called a detective repeatedly, but said he was not interested because her account differed from Zimmerman’s.” [Miami Herald]23. Just prior to killing Martin, Zimmerman may have used a racial slur. The police admit they initially overlooked the remark. It’s unclear exactly what Zimmerman is saying. [ABC News]24. Zimmerman still has a permit to carry a concealed weapon in the State of Florida. [ThinkProgress]25. In April 2011, Zimmerman called the police to report a suspicious black male, “7-9? years old, “skinny build.” [Daily Beast]26. Zimmerman’s friend, Frank Taaffe, says Martin was shot because he wasn’t “honest and truthful” with Zimmerman. NBC News reported that Zimmerman called Taaffe to thank him for his support. [Huffington Post; MSNBC]
3/25/2012 12:42:25 AM
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdfHe called the police 50 times for lost animals / missing persons / unrest / thefts / burglaries / domestic disputes and so onAgain your bullshit theories hold no water as facts and are only hyper sensationalized to generate viewership and ad revenue of media sources.
3/25/2012 12:48:43 AM
Are you saying those are not facts related to the case?
3/25/2012 12:50:48 AM
Many of those have been address....
3/25/2012 12:51:20 AM
I mean, seriously, #25?
3/25/2012 12:58:23 AM
You win. He probably electrocuted black kids in his basement. I bet it felt real good like Michael Vick felt when he drowned and electrocuted dogs. Probably had a quick orgasm too as he squeezed the trigger.I'm on officially on your side now. I say gas this motherfucker and his whole wetback family of putadas
3/25/2012 1:09:24 AM
Obsessed community watchman provokes unarmed boy to physical assault, then shoots him....is what circumstantial evidence seems to portray.
3/25/2012 1:10:07 AM
^. Nope waaaaaaay deeper than that..Just as God. It's a fuckin race war. Full blown. Load our guns and get ready. The black panthers are fully mobilizing. GET YO ASS READY. WETBAKS AND WHITEY IS GON PAY
3/25/2012 1:14:58 AM
Apparently Zimmerman might not have said that he cried out himself. The cop "overhead" it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa9fnVc1VUBoy, it sure is nice to have a cop make statements for you that: - form a self-defense case - In spite of being admitted as evidence of self-defense, thereby avoiding an arrest, initial hearing, bail, and all other kinds of trouble, it could be misheard by the cop so then it won't work against you in court.I guess this is the privilege of being non-black. I don't think it takes many times of the legal system erring in the favor of one person and against the favor of another person in order to create a real social problem.
3/25/2012 1:18:43 AM
So now it's all non blacks that are guilty of trayvons murder. DamnLolleans over to Asian friend... "yes mr Yamamoto this is your fault too! And you too ramu! Yes and Mohammad you too. Don't even try to get out of this "[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 1:29 AM. Reason : O]
3/25/2012 1:25:52 AM
Pack bryan I can't see you behind that straw man you've built.
3/25/2012 1:30:32 AM
Your responses tonight generally lead us all here to believe that you are one extremely fucking pissed off individual since your lacking theories have been cleanly shot down.Buenas noches mi mal informado amigo de mierdaAlso, google translate won't translate that phrase for your genetically inferior uneducated ass to understand.. So I'll spell it out for you: GNight ignorant shithead![Edited on March 25, 2012 at 1:38 AM. Reason : ,]
3/25/2012 1:37:45 AM
And a parting shot because he can't defend his bigotry. Sweet dreams.
3/25/2012 2:07:46 AM
Once again you prove your only ability is to take nothing out of thin air and rebrand it again as a shittier version of nothing.For your convenience:http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
3/25/2012 2:43:30 AM
3/25/2012 2:47:17 AM
3/25/2012 3:02:40 AM
3/25/2012 4:31:28 AM
^^Look you dumb mother fucking derailer of threads. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE RACE OF ANY OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. How do you explain this?
3/25/2012 8:16:03 AM
3/25/2012 12:17:18 PM
^ the key factors in the duke case were an extremely corrupt DA an a very unreliable "victim". None of those are a factor here. You must not be reading Tacolus and pack_bryan posts if you don't think anyone is cheering anything.
3/25/2012 12:42:18 PM
Im not talking about the CASE im talking about the reaction to the incident.And I didnt read the whole thread, but I didnt see anyone cheering on anyone. Other than you hoping his child gets killed one day by some nut job.
3/25/2012 12:54:18 PM
3/25/2012 12:54:30 PM
3/25/2012 1:01:05 PM
I'm also curious about the wounds.Supposedly he had - a bruise/cut on the front of his head - a bruise/cut on the back of his head - a wet backWait. Was he pinned down on the grass or the pavement? Sure, he could have been on the grass with his head on the paved walkway, but that doesn't sound very likely.This is why he should have been taken in - so they could at least document his cuts and scrapes which are almost certainly not helpful anymore after a month (since they were minor).----I also want to say that being in-between the homes is pretty consistent with the girlfriend's story. If I'm walk-running away from a car following me in a gated community, then I start running on the urging of my girlfriend, where the fuck am I going to run? That's right - a pedestrian walkway.----There's also the matter of the cell phones. Where were the cell phones found when the police arrived? If Zimmerman's cell phone was placed nicely in his pocket, that would be damming. However, we'll probably never know because it was corrupt cops who arrived. If Trayvon didn't jump Zimmerman at that exact moment, why the fuck did Zimmerman hang up the phone? I think we all a good guess.----Zimmerman called the police before he started chasing. How long did it take them to get there? It probably wasn't any more than 15 minutes. When did he get out of the car and when did the neighbors start calling 911? The main thing that the investigation will be concerned about is the later half of the 15 minutes. We're pretty sure there was a verbal exchange before a fight started.Does anyone really believe the stories that someone was "jumped"? I don't think that makes sense. Again, a witness heard "what are you doing here?" You can doubt her credibility, but that part doesn't contradict John's story (or anyone's) because her information is about a time that no one else was witness to.I am Columbo
3/25/2012 1:27:01 PM
Black gang members should just kill this guy in revenge and use the stand your ground law as a defense, since the law is most commonly used to defend gang shootouts, anyway.[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .]
3/25/2012 1:30:21 PM
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3/25/2012 2:28:09 PM
3/25/2012 3:12:28 PM
Trayvon should have done what this black guy did this weekend:http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11466068-418/no-bond-for-man-charged-with-shooting-chicago-cop-in-the-chest.htmland nobody gave a single fuck... oh and this mexican got capped in the head too yesterday in south chicago.. (shooter unknown )http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11310953-418/19-year-old-man-shot-on-southwest-side-dies.html[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 3:57 PM. Reason : aw yeh revenge is on bitches!!!!!]
3/25/2012 3:34:15 PM
I just had a thought: if Zimmerman is calling 911 like 50 times and helping solve crimes... then, well, he's a goddamn Batman right there. Probably buddy buddy with the police commissioner.Commissioner Gordon is just as reluctant as the rest of us to allow this kind vigilante justice, but what he recognizes is that somebody has to clean up Gotham City Sanford, FL.
3/25/2012 4:06:53 PM
3/25/2012 4:54:06 PM
3/25/2012 6:30:01 PM
Pack Bryan is just looking for any excuse to push his "persecuted White majority" narrative.
3/25/2012 8:24:59 PM
It ties in nicely with his "persecuted Christian majority" narrative too.
3/25/2012 8:45:48 PM
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer
3/25/2012 9:01:38 PM
3/25/2012 9:10:53 PM
@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA IMA MISS YU TILL I DIE DOG I KNOW YU WHOOPED HIS ASS DOE.. CUZ I PRAY GOD HELP ME AND WATCH YU LOVE YOU CUZZ REST ETERNALLY.
3/25/2012 9:11:01 PM
Man, I don't talk on no cell phones.
3/25/2012 9:13:55 PM
The first comment nails it:
3/25/2012 9:38:45 PM
By the way, in case you wanted to know what would actually happen if the races had been reversed...An actual situation occurred in Florida in 2010.
3/25/2012 9:55:26 PM
If I had to guess based on that MySpace I bet martins school suspension was for fighting.
3/25/2012 9:57:23 PM