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sounds like all the anti-zimmerman camp is dead set that it's impossible to get a shot off when you are being assaulted.


... let's turn this political for a minute since obama took personal offense to this particular crime.


so having a better job and making more $ = less crime
better private sector = better jerbs for people
but yeh lets ignore that and grow the govt and raise taxes on people that work hard and get good jobs


obama preaches 1 thing.. equality... sounds great... but then sets up an environment to promote more crime.


[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 8:55 PM. Reason : ,]

3/24/2012 8:49:07 PM

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"yet the boys father says it isnt his son's voice.

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012"


The link doesn't support your claim. Do you have a link to support your claim?

3/24/2012 9:07:35 PM

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http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/zimmerman-was-on-the-ground-being-punched-when-he-shot-trayvon-martin
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http://news.yahoo.com/video/orlandowesh-16122564/sanford-police-speak-out-in-trayvon-martin-case-28640523.html




something tells me the full blown retards are about to go crazy after this one....





Here's an update from the Chicago warzone just during the weekend by black and latino gangs:
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Joel Sanroman, 42, shot in the head early Saturday as he drove in the 3100 block of West 53rd Street in the Gage Park neighborhood.

Adrian Cruz, 24, shot multiple times around 7 p.m. Saturday while standing in the 5900 block of South Fairfield Avenue in Chicago Lawn.

Vincent Fitts, 22, found shot in the head at 7:50 p.m. Saturday near 79th and Cottage Grove Avenue.

Jeremy Anthony, 24, who police believe drove himself to the University of Chicago Medical Center after being shot in the back while sitting in his car in the 6300 block of South Ellis Avenue in the Woodlawn neighborhood.

Bert Lindsey, 36, killed early Sunday from shots fired from a passing vehicle into a backyard party in the 7500 block of South Wolcott Avenue in Auburn-Gresham.

Equilla Coleman, 24, and two others were found shot early Sunday in the 1400 block of West 53rd after police nearby heard gunfire and found them with gunshot wounds.

Anthony Scott, 19, died Sunday — two days after he was shot in the 6300 block of North Oakley Avenue by a man who called him over to his vehicle.

George Marrero, 27, was killed at 10:50 p.m. Sunday during a gang-related drive-by shooting in the 1300 block of North Harding Avenue.

An unidentified 34-year-old man was shot multiple times in the chest about 1:35 a.m. Monday. He was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital where he later died.
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[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 9:20 PM. Reason : YAY FOR CRIME AND USING IT FOR POLITICAL AND RACE BAITING!]

3/24/2012 9:11:37 PM

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^ So the police department told the examiner that Treyvon's father said that the voice was not his son's after the police department (presumably) played it for him.

Is this correct?

3/24/2012 9:46:29 PM

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The Examiner is a a news aggregator. Its like a shitty version of HuffPo.

The police told the Orlando Sentinel that they played a recording of the 911 call and that Treyvon's father said that it wasn't his son screaming. Just click on the 2nd link.

[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 10:08 PM. Reason : 2]

3/24/2012 10:07:33 PM

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but if he clicked on the second link he would have to give up his completely flawed argument


I bet he won't do that



Rut roh
http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.html#/video/crime/2012/03/24/sot-wesh-panther-presser-muhammad.wesh?hpt=hp_bn1

The black panthers are gearing up for kidnapping Zimmerman and warning white America of revenge

[Edited on March 24, 2012 at 11:03 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2012 10:59:48 PM

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http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf

3/25/2012 12:05:51 AM

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^^^, ^^ I watched the 2nd link the first time it was posted. It was a video and I don't remember it establishing this fact about the father's statement. Please watch it again in case my memory isn't correct and earn yourself rights to insult me again.

3/25/2012 12:17:18 AM

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http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf

3/25/2012 12:39:34 AM

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Since you've been afraid to confront me in the Chit Chat thread, please address the following points:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/18/446768/what-everyone-should-know-about-about-trayvon-martin-1995-2012/

1. Zimmerman called the police to report Martin’s “suspicious” behavior, which he described as “just walking around looking about.” Zimmerman was in his car when he saw Martin walking on the street. He called the police and said: “There’s a real suspicious guy. This guy looks like he’s up to no good, on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about… These a**holes always get away” [Orlando Sentinel]

2. Zimmerman pursued Martin against the explicit instructions of the police dispatcher:

Dispatcher: “Are you following him?”
Zimmerman: “Yeah”
Dispatcher: “OK, we don’t need you to do that.”

[Orlando Sentinel]

3. Prior to the release of the 911 tapes, Zimmerman’s father released a statement claiming “[a]t no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin.” [Sun Sentinel]

4. Zimmerman was carrying a 9 millimeter handgun. Martin was carrying a bag of Skittles and a can of iced tea. [ABC News]

5. Martin weighed 140 pounds. Zimmerman weighs 250 pounds. [Orlando Sentinel; WDBO]

6. Martin’s English teacher described him “as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness.” [Orlando Sentinel]

7. Martin had no criminal record. [New York Times]

8. Zimmerman “was charged in July 2005 with resisting arrest with violence and battery on an officer. The charges appear to have been dropped.” [Huffington Post]

9. Zimmerman called the police 46 times since Jan. 1, 2011. [Miami Herald]

10. According to neighbors, Zimmerman was “fixated on crime and focused on young, black males.” [Miami Herald]

11. Zimmerman “had been the subject of complaints by neighbors in his gated community for aggressive tactics” [Huffington Post]

12. A police officer “corrected” a key witness. “The officer told the witness, a long-time teacher, it was Zimmerman who cried for help, said the witness. ABC News has spoken to the teacher and she confirmed that the officer corrected her when she said she heard the teenager shout for help.” [ABC News]

13. Three witnesses say they heard a boy cry for help before a shot was fired. “Three witnesses contacted by The Miami Herald say they saw or heard the moments before and after the Miami Gardens teenager’s killing. All three said they heard the last howl for help from a despondent boy.” [Miami Herald]

14. The officer in charge of the crime scene also received criticism in 2010 when he initially failed to arrest a lieutenant’s son who was videotaped attacking a homeless black man. [New York Times]

15. The police did not test Zimmerman for drugs or alcohol. A law enforcement expert told ABC that Zimmerman sounds intoxicated on the 911 tapes. Drug and alcohol testing is “standard procedure in most homicide investigations.” [ABC News]

16. In a cell phone call moments before his death, Martin told a teenage girl that he was “hounded by a strange man on a cellphone who ran after him, cornered him and confronted him.” “‘He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man,’ Martin’s friend said. ‘I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run.’ Eventually he would run, said the girl, thinking that he’d managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin. ‘Trayvon said, ‘What, are you following me for,’ and the man said, ‘What are you doing here.’” [ABC News]

17. Police have Trayvon Martin’s cell phone but never contacted his girlfriend. [Miami Herald]

18. Zimmerman told the police “he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on when Trayvon attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck.” “He said he feared for his life and fired the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry because he feared for his life.” [Miami Herald]

19. The incident occurred in a tiny gated community Zimmerman patrolled regularly. [Miami Herald]

20. Zimmerman was not a member of a registered Neighborhood Watch group. Zimmerman also violated basic Neighborhood Watch guidelines by carrying a weapon. [ABC News]

21. The police reports were amended to bolster Zimmerman’s claim of self defense. “Initial police reports never mentioned that Zimmerman had a bloody nose or a wet shirt that showed evidence of a struggle.” [Miami Herald]

22. Police ignored witness whose account was different from Zimmerman’s.“One of the witnesses who heard the crying said she called a detective repeatedly, but said he was not interested because her account differed from Zimmerman’s.” [Miami Herald]

23. Just prior to killing Martin, Zimmerman may have used a racial slur. The police admit they initially overlooked the remark. It’s unclear exactly what Zimmerman is saying. [ABC News]

24. Zimmerman still has a permit to carry a concealed weapon in the State of Florida. [ThinkProgress]

25. In April 2011, Zimmerman called the police to report a suspicious black male, “7-9? years old, “skinny build.” [Daily Beast]

26. Zimmerman’s friend, Frank Taaffe, says Martin was shot because he wasn’t “honest and truthful” with Zimmerman. NBC News reported that Zimmerman called Taaffe to thank him for his support. [Huffington Post; MSNBC]

3/25/2012 12:42:25 AM

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http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf

He called the police 50 times for lost animals / missing persons / unrest / thefts / burglaries / domestic disputes and so on


Again your bullshit theories hold no water as facts and are only hyper sensationalized to generate viewership and ad revenue of media sources.

3/25/2012 12:48:43 AM

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Are you saying those are not facts related to the case?

3/25/2012 12:50:48 AM

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Many of those have been address....

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"15. The police did not test Zimmerman for drugs or alcohol. A law enforcement expert told ABC that Zimmerman sounds intoxicated on the 911 tapes. Drug and alcohol testing is “standard procedure in most homicide investigations.” [ABC News]"


I had wondered about that.

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"18. Zimmerman told the police “he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on when Trayvon attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck.” “He said he feared for his life and fired the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry because he feared for his life.” [Miami Herald]"


This is certainly conflicting. The location they were found out should be indisputable. People have posted Google Maps location of this. It was a walkway between homes. Being there to look for a street sign doesn't make sense.

Is Zimmerman's story that Trayvon jumped him and dragged him from the road to the walkway? The reality is that we don't have a coherent story from Zimmerman yet.

3/25/2012 12:51:20 AM

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I mean, seriously, #25?

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"In April 2011, Zimmerman called the police to report a suspicious black male, “7-9? years old, “skinny build.” "


Seriously. And you say this isn't about race?

3/25/2012 12:58:23 AM

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You win. He probably electrocuted black kids in his basement. I bet it felt real good like Michael Vick felt when he drowned and electrocuted dogs. Probably had a quick orgasm too as he squeezed the trigger.

I'm on officially on your side now. I say gas this motherfucker and his whole wetback family of putadas

3/25/2012 1:09:24 AM

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Obsessed community watchman provokes unarmed boy to physical assault, then shoots him.

...is what circumstantial evidence seems to portray.

3/25/2012 1:10:07 AM

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^. Nope waaaaaaay deeper than that..

Just as God. It's a fuckin race war. Full blown. Load our guns and get ready. The black panthers are fully mobilizing. GET YO ASS READY. WETBAKS AND WHITEY IS GON PAY

3/25/2012 1:14:58 AM

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Apparently Zimmerman might not have said that he cried out himself. The cop "overhead" it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csa9fnVc1VU

Boy, it sure is nice to have a cop make statements for you that:
- form a self-defense case
- In spite of being admitted as evidence of self-defense, thereby avoiding an arrest, initial hearing, bail, and all other kinds of trouble, it could be misheard by the cop so then it won't work against you in court.

I guess this is the privilege of being non-black. I don't think it takes many times of the legal system erring in the favor of one person and against the favor of another person in order to create a real social problem.

3/25/2012 1:18:43 AM

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So now it's all non blacks that are guilty of trayvons murder. Damn

Lol


leans over to Asian friend... "yes mr Yamamoto this is your fault too! And you too ramu! Yes and Mohammad you too. Don't even try to get out of this "



[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 1:29 AM. Reason : O]

3/25/2012 1:25:52 AM

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Pack bryan I can't see you behind that straw man you've built.

3/25/2012 1:30:32 AM

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Your responses tonight generally lead us all here to believe that you are one extremely fucking pissed off individual since your lacking theories have been cleanly shot down.

Buenas noches mi mal informado amigo de mierda

Also, google translate won't translate that phrase for your genetically inferior uneducated ass to understand.. So I'll spell it out for you: GNight ignorant shithead!

[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 1:38 AM. Reason : ,]

3/25/2012 1:37:45 AM

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And a parting shot because he can't defend his bigotry. Sweet dreams.

3/25/2012 2:07:46 AM

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Once again you prove your only ability is to take nothing out of thin air and rebrand it again as a shittier version of nothing.

For your convenience:

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf

3/25/2012 2:43:30 AM

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""18. Zimmerman told the police “he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on when Trayvon attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck.” “He said he feared for his life and fired the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry because he feared for his life.” [Miami Herald]"


This is certainly conflicting. The location they were found out should be indisputable. People have posted Google Maps location of this. It was a walkway between homes. Being there to look for a street sign doesn't make sense.

Is Zimmerman's story that Trayvon jumped him and dragged him from the road to the walkway? The reality is that we don't have a coherent story from Zimmerman yet.
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I didn't catch that earlier, that's def. a gigantic hole in his story.

3/25/2012 2:47:17 AM

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"[Miami Herald]"


excellent source. since they had cameras there and have wiretapped the police interviews.


again i love how the executioner is already out with the ax despite no evidence. i hope it backfires and is used against you one day

shit there's probably more evidence that zimmerman missed his shot and it was actually moron there pulling the trigger. where were you that evening moron?? quick do you have an answer?

NO?

LOCK HIM THE FUCK UP. WE DONT CARE. JUST LOOK AT HIM AND ALL HIS RAGE RANTS ON HIS INTERNET HISTORY



[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 3:11 AM. Reason : ,]

3/25/2012 3:02:40 AM

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"again i love how the executioner is already out with the ax despite no evidence. i hope it backfires and is used against you one day
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I hope you have a child killed by a nut job one day, and the police do nothing about it, while people like you cheer them on.

3/25/2012 4:31:28 AM

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^^Look you dumb mother fucking derailer of threads. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE RACE OF ANY OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. How do you explain this?

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" ""18. Zimmerman told the police “he had stepped out of his truck to check the name of the street he was on when Trayvon attacked him from behind as he walked back to his truck.” “He said he feared for his life and fired the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry because he feared for his life.” [Miami Herald]"


This is certainly conflicting. The location they were found out should be indisputable. People have posted Google Maps location of this. It was a walkway between homes. Being there to look for a street sign doesn't make sense.

Is Zimmerman's story that Trayvon jumped him and dragged him from the road to the walkway? The reality is that we don't have a coherent story from Zimmerman yet."

3/25/2012 8:16:03 AM

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Yeah the media would never push a story on race without hearing all the facts. And JJ and sharpton wouldnt jump into the middle of all this pointing fingers without waiting for the facts to come out. Good call.

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"I hope you have a child killed by a nut job one day, and the police do nothing about it, while people like you cheer them on."


good lord. grow up. no one is cheering on anything, this is a very sad story. Sorry if everyone doesnt automatically jump into the massive coverup that goes all the way to the president....err vice president. Just wait on the facts. The stories of those involved seem to be changing as this is becoming for a national story, which is sad. If zimmerman attacked the kid he should be in jail. It is that simple.

3/25/2012 12:17:18 PM

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^ the key factors in the duke case were an extremely corrupt DA an a very unreliable "victim". None of those are a factor here.

You must not be reading Tacolus and pack_bryan posts if you don't think anyone is cheering anything.

3/25/2012 12:42:18 PM

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Im not talking about the CASE im talking about the reaction to the incident.

And I didnt read the whole thread, but I didnt see anyone cheering on anyone. Other than you hoping his child gets killed one day by some nut job.

3/25/2012 12:54:18 PM

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"Yeah the media would never push a story on race without hearing all the facts."


I just listed all of the facts. Do you believe he should at least be taken to trial based on that information, or should he be a free man?

3/25/2012 12:54:30 PM

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"I just listed all of the facts."


I have no doubt you believe you did.

3/25/2012 1:01:05 PM

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I'm also curious about the wounds.

Supposedly he had
- a bruise/cut on the front of his head
- a bruise/cut on the back of his head
- a wet back

Wait. Was he pinned down on the grass or the pavement? Sure, he could have been on the grass with his head on the paved walkway, but that doesn't sound very likely.

This is why he should have been taken in - so they could at least document his cuts and scrapes which are almost certainly not helpful anymore after a month (since they were minor).

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I also want to say that being in-between the homes is pretty consistent with the girlfriend's story. If I'm walk-running away from a car following me in a gated community, then I start running on the urging of my girlfriend, where the fuck am I going to run? That's right - a pedestrian walkway.

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There's also the matter of the cell phones. Where were the cell phones found when the police arrived? If Zimmerman's cell phone was placed nicely in his pocket, that would be damming. However, we'll probably never know because it was corrupt cops who arrived. If Trayvon didn't jump Zimmerman at that exact moment, why the fuck did Zimmerman hang up the phone? I think we all a good guess.

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Zimmerman called the police before he started chasing. How long did it take them to get there? It probably wasn't any more than 15 minutes. When did he get out of the car and when did the neighbors start calling 911? The main thing that the investigation will be concerned about is the later half of the 15 minutes. We're pretty sure there was a verbal exchange before a fight started.

Does anyone really believe the stories that someone was "jumped"? I don't think that makes sense. Again, a witness heard "what are you doing here?" You can doubt her credibility, but that part doesn't contradict John's story (or anyone's) because her information is about a time that no one else was witness to.

I am Columbo

3/25/2012 1:27:01 PM

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Black gang members should just kill this guy in revenge and use the stand your ground law as a defense, since the law is most commonly used to defend gang shootouts, anyway.

[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/25/2012 1:30:21 PM

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" we'll probably never know because it was corrupt cops who arrived."


based on what? What were the officers names? how many?

This is the problem when people dont wait for the facts. You mind seems to be already made up and any evidence that is outside of what you think happened has to be explained...in this case corrupt cops.

I could possibly see this being rational if it had been another officer that had shot an unarmed kid. But there is no motivation to cover this up initially.

3/25/2012 1:56:44 PM

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"You mind seems to be already made up and any evidence that is outside of what you think happened has to be explained...in this case corrupt cops."


You've got it totally wrong. Look here,

There is evidence we that we will never have that we could have if the cops at the scene did a better job. Incompetence? Sure, I'll give you that, but you can't use that to tell people to not get upset at the race part of this story, particularly when they still won't arrest him when every legal expert says they should.

My mind is made up? My mind is made up that the physical conflict didn't start on (or on the side of) the street, as I've argued. Do you disagree. Seriously, tell me if you disagree with that. If this is my 'bias' then so be it.

3/25/2012 2:28:09 PM

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"There is evidence we that we will never have that we could have if the cops at the scene did a better job."


such as? From what I have read about the police report is that the shooter claimed self defense and his injuries and witnesses backed that story. That makes them corrupt? I am just asking what is your evidence that the responding officers were corrupt? To me saying that is simply setting up the background in case you dont like what the report says. "oh this cant be trusted, it was done by corrupt cops."

I have no idea where things took place. Why I am waiting for the full report to be released.

3/25/2012 3:12:28 PM

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Trayvon should have done what this black guy did this weekend:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11466068-418/no-bond-for-man-charged-with-shooting-chicago-cop-in-the-chest.html


and nobody gave a single fuck...


oh and this mexican got capped in the head too yesterday in south chicago.. (shooter unknown )
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11310953-418/19-year-old-man-shot-on-southwest-side-dies.html


[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 3:57 PM. Reason : aw yeh revenge is on bitches!!!!!]

3/25/2012 3:34:15 PM

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I just had a thought: if Zimmerman is calling 911 like 50 times and helping solve crimes... then, well, he's a goddamn Batman right there. Probably buddy buddy with the police commissioner.

Commissioner Gordon is just as reluctant as the rest of us to allow this kind vigilante justice, but what he recognizes is that somebody has to clean up Gotham City Sanford, FL.

3/25/2012 4:06:53 PM

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"From what I have read about the police report is that the shooter claimed self defense and his injuries and witnesses backed that story. That makes them corrupt?"


This is an excuse to not collect evidence?

Witnesses went to the media not just because of the cops on the scene being aloof, but that the department wouldn't give them the time of day. That's absurd and enraging.

If his injuries backed his story, then why did he have a wet back and was bleeding on the back of his head? Was he down on the grass or the pavement? How did he get from the street to the middle of the block if he was checking the street sign? Why was he checking the street sign if he's near his own house and is the fucking neighborhood watchman?

But let's ignore that, let's say that his story was completely consistent and every witness (which there were many of) backed it. They should have documented his wounds and checked his cell phone. Being taken in isn't an indictment. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would have been important to collect evidence, which is needed in either case. I'm just baffled at this world where people are shot and an investigation is not necessary.

Really? Are there shootings where an investigation is not necessary? Tell me. What is needed for an investigation?

3/25/2012 4:54:06 PM

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"Trayvon should have done what this black guy did this weekend:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/11466068-418/no-bond-for-man-charged-with-shooting-chicago-cop-in-the-chest.html


and nobody gave a single fuck...
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Lol you get even dumber as time goes on. That guy was arrested and is in jail. The cops detained and charged him.
That's all people are asking for in thev trayvon case, at least a charge for killing an obviously innocent kid.

3/25/2012 6:30:01 PM

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Pack Bryan is just looking for any excuse to push his "persecuted White majority" narrative.

3/25/2012 8:24:59 PM

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It ties in nicely with his "persecuted Christian majority" narrative too.

3/25/2012 8:45:48 PM

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http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-linehan/was-trayvon-martin-a-drug-dealer

3/25/2012 9:01:38 PM

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3/25/2012 9:10:53 PM

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@NO_LIMIT_NIGGA IMA MISS YU TILL I DIE DOG I KNOW YU WHOOPED HIS ASS DOE.. CUZ I PRAY GOD HELP ME AND WATCH YU LOVE YOU CUZZ REST ETERNALLY.

3/25/2012 9:11:01 PM

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Man, I don't talk on no cell phones.

3/25/2012 9:13:55 PM

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The first comment nails it:

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"and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why this useless black thug deserved to be shot in the street like a dog carrying nothing but iced tea and skittles

by some dude who had not yet read your illuminating expose with a photo of a different trayvon martin, dumbshit"

3/25/2012 9:38:45 PM

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By the way, in case you wanted to know what would actually happen if the races had been reversed...

An actual situation occurred in Florida in 2010.

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"Arthur, now 15, said he was visiting friends in the Twin Lakes neighborhood. He took his skateboard to the park and asked permission to practice trick moves from James, who was shooting hoops with his daughter. The only others in the park were a couple playing tennis.

But the boy then heard a voice from across the street. It was Dooley, outside his garage, shouting that he should get off the court, that there was a no-skateboarding sign. The boy stopped.

He heard James call out to Dooley, "Show me the sign."

Michael Scott Whitt, practicing tennis serves nearby with his wife, Michelle, stopped to watch.

They testified that Dooley briefly went into his garage, then started across the street with a dark object sticking out of his waistband. They said James threw his hands up and said, "Oh, come on."

Dooley and James argued over letting the boy skate until Dooley lifted his shirt and said, "F--- you," the Whitts testified.

They said Dooley turned and started home, but James caught up with him. "Mr. James said, 'Don't flash a weapon,' something like that," Michelle Whitt testified.

Then, she said, Dooley pulled out the gun and James grabbed his hand. The men struggled, they fell to the ground, and James ended up on his knees as Dooley lay on his side. They still wrestled for the gun.

The gun fired."
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And would you like to know what happened?

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"Dooley was arrested at his Valrico home at 3:30 p.m. Tuesday afternoon on the following charges:

*One count of Manslaughter
*One count of Improper Exhibition of a firearm
*One count of openly carrying a Firearm"


And that was two days after the shooting.

And this isn't about race?

3/25/2012 9:55:26 PM

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If I had to guess based on that MySpace I bet martins school suspension was for fighting.

3/25/2012 9:57:23 PM

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