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jbrick83
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Wake Forest does a great of making us look good.

Forgot what it feels like to watch my team play well and win (knock on wood).

2/13/2011 2:47:29 PM

hey now
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I think I just spotted Bill Belichick sitting with our player's parents.

2/13/2011 2:49:43 PM

cptinsano
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Starters still in

2/13/2011 2:50:32 PM

BigMan157
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i can empathize with the look the WF coach just had

2/13/2011 2:50:40 PM

AndyMac
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Damn brown is a nice passer

2/13/2011 2:53:12 PM

PKSebben
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Brown is fucking ill.

2/13/2011 2:53:28 PM

xienze
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Man the announcers are being too kind. It's gonna take more than just getting to Sunday.

2/13/2011 2:54:52 PM

BigMan157
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god i hope this game is a momentum builder and we somehow juggernaut through the acc tourney

[Edited on February 13, 2011 at 2:55 PM. Reason : stranger things have happened]

2/13/2011 2:55:03 PM

xienze
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Wow, a "0 points since..." graphic for the OTHER team

2/13/2011 2:55:37 PM

ncstatetke
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Wood = two-trick pony

2/13/2011 2:55:50 PM

dweedle
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playing a team that lets you do absolutely anything you want to do in the paint is not a momentum-provider

2/13/2011 2:55:56 PM

Lionheart
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this is why bzdelik should be gone after this year

2/13/2011 2:56:01 PM

jbrick83
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Is TreeTwista10 going to post how we are playing the best basketball we've played in the Sidney Lowe era?

2/13/2011 2:56:39 PM

ncstatetke
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HERE COMES DANDY!!!!!!!!!!!

2/13/2011 2:57:18 PM

fenway
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THE BIG DANDY VANDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

2/13/2011 2:57:55 PM

PKSebben
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Kuofor and TBDV. Wake is screwed.

2/13/2011 2:58:09 PM

xienze
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Damn how does Painter feel if he's left in with the scrubs.

2/13/2011 2:58:20 PM

justinh524
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sid keeps yelling "motion" but i keep hearing "bullshit"


also, the big dandy vandy looks like one of those inflatable things with flailing arms.

2/13/2011 2:58:32 PM

BigMan157
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"sid keeps yelling "motion" but i keep hearing "bullshit""


oh

i was like DANG SOMEONE PISSED SID OFF

2/13/2011 2:59:38 PM

skokiaan
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^^And that "bullshit" got Howell a layup.

[Edited on February 13, 2011 at 2:59 PM. Reason : .]

2/13/2011 2:59:44 PM

xienze
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And it's official.

NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP MIRACLE RUN: 1 game down, 16 to go.

2/13/2011 3:00:20 PM

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"Is TreeTwista10 going to post how we are playing the best basketball we've played in the Sidney Lowe era?"


nah we played like shit, only won a road game by 25 points, fire Lowe right now

2/13/2011 3:00:55 PM

justinh524
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wtf i meant that the first like 3 times i heard it i could swear he was saying bullshit. then i realized it was motion.

2/13/2011 3:01:20 PM

jbrick83
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"Damn how does Painter feel if he's left in with the scrubs."


Few teams have enough "scrubs" to fill out an entire lineup. You gotta have at least one or two decent players to put 5 on the court.

2/13/2011 3:01:23 PM

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"NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP MIRACLE RUN: 1 game down, 16 to go."


HELLS YEAH, ALL ABOARD THE CRAZY TRAIN

2/13/2011 3:02:04 PM

lion4russell
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fuck all of the haters, fenway's TBDV has caught on.



2/13/2011 3:03:00 PM

dweedle
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i only started watching the game around the 10-minute mark or so in the 2nd half and feel like i saw 10 uncontested dunks from under the basket

2/13/2011 3:04:01 PM

Lionheart
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btw when do we start seeing Bzdelik vs Gaudio graphics during wake games

2/13/2011 3:06:59 PM

justinh524
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wake made a bad decision killing off prosser.

2/13/2011 3:07:58 PM

Lionheart
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yeah what made wake fans think it was a good idea to kill prosser for gaudio and bzdelik

2/13/2011 3:08:53 PM

xienze
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Geez now they're gonna have to kill Bzdelik.

2/13/2011 3:12:39 PM

cptinsano
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"HELLS YEAH, ALL ABOARD THE CRAZY TRAIN"



[Edited on February 13, 2011 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .]

2/13/2011 3:15:31 PM

dmspack
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It's great to win...even if it is against lowly Wake Forest. God, they're awful.

2/13/2011 3:16:45 PM

d7freestyler
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only 4 pages? we must have won.



2/13/2011 3:20:03 PM

CHunter2
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Got that W!

2/13/2011 3:20:43 PM

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I could hear Lowe on the t.v. all game yelling at the team. At least I guess he is trying to keep his job. It seemed like we were running a new offense most of the second half, some type of triangle thing at the top of the key. Glad to see they are trying something different.

2/13/2011 10:27:36 PM

JP
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We do have some winnable games coming up.

With that said, we will probably go no better than 3-3.

2/13/2011 10:47:53 PM

WolfAce
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Lowe is always yelling at the team, that is nothing new

2/13/2011 11:07:37 PM

JCE2011
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CJ Harris is a piece of shit my boy Wood tries to help you up you accept you dick sucking faggot

2/13/2011 11:47:33 PM

skokiaan
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^^^^ You mean a give and go? We run that all the time. Wake just sucks ass because the same play worked against them several times in a row

2/14/2011 8:13:27 AM

BigMan157
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i'm glad that for the most part CJL finally realized his effective scoring range isn't dissimilar from tracy's

2/14/2011 8:27:15 AM

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"i'm glad that for the most part CJL finally realized his effective scoring range isn't dissimilar from tracy's is dunks"


Fixed it for you.

2/14/2011 8:38:42 AM

MrLuvaLuva85
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IMO CJ Leslie needs to strive for 5 to 7 dunks a game

2/14/2011 10:58:07 AM

adder
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Unfortunately if he continues realizing any shot which isn't a dunk is a a bad shot he is GONE...

2/14/2011 11:06:06 AM

MORR1799
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"I could hear Lowe on the t.v. all game yelling at the team. At least I guess he is trying to keep his job. "

I was going to say the same thing. It started to get ridiculous. He was trying to direct every player out on the court.

"TRACY! TRACY!
CJ! CJ!"

It makes you wonder how effective his practices are if he has to tell everyone what to do.

2/14/2011 11:21:29 AM

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I've said before that Lowe coaches the team like he's playing a video game and is controlling all the players.

2/14/2011 11:27:09 AM

adder
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"I was going to say the same thing. It started to get ridiculous. He was trying to direct every player out on the court.

"TRACY! TRACY!
CJ! CJ!"
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I was surprised this wasn't brought up earlier. I also hate how whoever is playing point almost always dribbles to the shoulder (on the bench side on either end of the court) when starting a halfcourt set.

2/14/2011 11:33:23 AM

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It appears that this is how our half-court set starts every time. The point guard is doing what he is being coached to do.

- PG dribbles to the upper left shoulder so that he can drive right while dribbling with his strong hand.
- Looks for Smith posting up on strong side.
- If it's not open, wait for the screen and dribble towards the middle of the court and look for an opening in the lane.
- Look for the pick-n-roll
- If it's not open, swing the ball around the perimeter and try to feed the post on the other side.

2/14/2011 11:40:18 AM

skokiaan
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That's the main set. We also have motion with the give and go (yesterday) and flex. Anyway, this is dumb. People talk too much about offense. The offense is fine.

The defense and rebounding are what lets us down when we lose. If you are a good team, you score a good amount of your points from defense and rebounding, not half court offense. Rebounds and steals lead to easy fast break points. Also add in free throws.

To win, you need to get more possessions than your opponent. If you score in the half court 60% of the time and your opponent only scores 50% of the time, out of 70 half court possessions, you will only be up 42-35. That 7 point difference is easily erased by points off of offensive rebounds (80% probability of converting), steals, and fast break points. Add in differences in free throw shooting percentage, and you have a bunch of stuff that isn't offense that contributes to scoring.


How often do you see duke convert a bad shot or bad 3 by the opponent into a fast break dunk or fast break 3 pointer? That's a 5 or 6 point swing in the game. That's what makes an offense potent and efficient. Use good defense to get plays that create huge swings in the score.

We start off games cold, and we don't have the defense or rebounding to stop the other team from opening up a 10+ point lead. Instead of creating 5-6 point swings, we give up 5-6 point swings.

We see that a lot in our close losses. Some freshman takes a dumbass shot, gives up a fast break bucket, and we never recover the rest of the game. Our defense is not capable of generating the same type of play for us. We play defense to "hold serve."

2/14/2011 8:09:39 PM

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^Put more simply we suck at forcing turnovers. I did see an interesting wrinkle in the Wake game on defense. We were actually attempting (and being fairly successful) ball denial on the wing. If we can keep doing that with legitimate teams it would help a lot.

2/15/2011 9:13:36 AM

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