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"Tuition and fees aren't the same as endowment. NCSU probably gets more in tuition money that UNC."

I think over 50% of UNCs "tuition and fees" are actually just fees. UNC definitely has a higher tuition. I am unsure about its endowment. Id have to look that up.

Quote :

"The difference between "Public Ivy" and regular public isn't all that great either."

According to the guidelines by which schools are deemed PI, they are.

But if we go with that reasoning that would mean ECU = NCSU in academics. I think NCSU is far beyond ECU but anyways...

11/4/2008 12:56:27 PM

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"40%....there goes your arguement. You only go free if your parents are broke or dead."

Reading is fundamental, or perhaps you are color blind? In any event refer to the BOLDED text in my post you were responding to. Davidson meets 100% of need based aid. The manner of which it does so, 40% given grants, loans, scholarships, student employement, 50% from other sources like private funding, private non state or federal based loans, etc etc.

Regardless they meet 100% of need based aid.

11/4/2008 12:59:17 PM

why are you people arguing with wut? Even if you prove him wrong he will claim that he doesn't really care about the argument and that the only reason he lost said argument is because he was fucked up on pain pills

11/4/2008 1:20:31 PM

I would have gotten a billion on my SAT but I didn't study.

UNC is the best.

I was in the military.

You're worthless if you don't go to a private school and take on thousands of $ in student loans even though I didn't either.

Princeton wants me but I'd rather go to community college.

See, I can make shit up too.

11/4/2008 1:30:18 PM

Is FatTony... fat?

[ ] confirm

[ ] deny

[Edited on November 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

11/4/2008 1:41:35 PM

Quote :

"I would have gotten a billion on my SAT but I didn't study."

I still dont get that argument since an overwhelming majority of people I know never did any preparation for it anyways besides possibly a good night's sleep. those courses do promise like 200 pt improvements though apparently if i remember correctly.

anyways our SAT scores dont really matter to any of us now.

[Edited on November 4, 2008 at 2:53 PM. Reason : ]

11/4/2008 2:45:41 PM

I'm ok with UNC calling themselves a public Ivy.


Because I know the people that go there, and I know that they are half fucking retarded.


Image isn't everything lol

11/4/2008 2:52:35 PM

^ Yes, some of them are here, as they are at every University Ivy or not.

^^ Do you know if any GRE prep courses show a trend of increasing scores?

[Edited on November 4, 2008 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .]

11/4/2008 2:53:31 PM

I do not know as I havent really looked into the GRE much myself. Certain programs have "guarantees" but I dont know how much that can be taken truthfully. I am not sure what they have to obtain to legally guarantee a certain score.

11/4/2008 3:04:07 PM

god this thread has taken a wrong turn into retardville

can it get locked now or something?

11/4/2008 4:19:14 PM

what the fuck are you shits talking about?


god dammit you fucks

11/4/2008 4:21:54 PM

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

[Edited on November 4, 2008 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ]

11/4/2008 4:23:39 PM

as said earlier:

Quote :

"^ to be fair, this thread is about a rumor that is basically dead."

I didnt feel bad going on a tangent because the thread was kind of based on a total rumor

11/4/2008 4:23:51 PM

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/story/3908009/

11/6/2008 11:58:53 AM

well, now the hippies will run him out of town when they find out he's a republican.

11/6/2008 12:02:37 PM

at least he didnt give them any money after mccain picked palin

11/6/2008 12:04:43 PM

coaches cant say they are interested in a job midseason....

wait til after the season for this to heat up

never forget:

"I don't give a damn about Carolina"

ole roy

11/6/2008 2:48:01 PM

actually thats not what he said at all, and he was asked that right after his team's hearts were ripped out in the national championship. people use that quote way too much

11/6/2008 4:51:10 PM

whoa there buddy, we do not correct people bashing unc here.

11/6/2008 5:09:51 PM

^^, ^^^ a better example would have been Nick Saban after saying he wasn't going to Alabama

11/6/2008 5:12:35 PM

i'm sorry

"I could give a shit about Carolina right now"
(except the fact that I have already accepted the job)

Whole point is until the season is over Butch Davis could give a shit about tennessee right now

11/6/2008 5:19:14 PM

I heard he said that last year too, that explains the jayhawk sticker... Roy is such a bandwagoner.

Quote :

"I could give a shit about Carolina right now"

11/6/2008 6:02:09 PM

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2008/nov/08/davis-is-leading-candidate-to-replace-fulmer/

11/8/2008 8:46:26 PM

not going to happen.

11/8/2008 8:55:59 PM

Butch says he's staying put today. Lock this shit up

11/8/2008 9:06:51 PM

Quote :

"Well, we all tried to suggest some good coaches, even though we all disagreed. I only hoped that my choice got an interview. No such thing. I had no illusions of my choice even getting hired, but I was at least hoping that a variety of coaches would be interviewed. It's now apparent that if Butch Davis gets hired, it was already a done deal without an interview process. That in itself is rather disturbing. Lastly, I have never supported an ACC coach coming into the SEC. That is totally disasterous..but I sure that someone will be happy to slam me and say Spurrier came from the ACC. I guess we can all make excuses.."

11/8/2008 9:24:02 PM

^^What else is he going to say in the middle of the season? "You know what, I actually am considering leaving for Tennessee." His players would love that.

11/8/2008 9:45:53 PM

I wonder how much more of a raise he's going to get out of this

11/8/2008 10:19:40 PM

hell, I will take Betty Davis or Sammy Davis Jr. at this point

11/8/2008 10:49:00 PM

I am guessing at least 2-4 million more per season.

[Edited on November 9, 2008 at 2:10 PM. Reason : w]

11/9/2008 2:10:13 PM

Davis would have to be nuts to leave UNC.

A conference where he can easily shine at a university where he could be considered a gift from God, or go to a university and compete in a division thats far tougher and makes him look seemingly mediocre coaching than the team he just left.

Prshh, easy choice imo.

11/9/2008 2:21:47 PM

^yeah, if you are a no-ambition slacker of a coach. Davis will leave soon (whether or not its for UT) for the exact same reason mack brown left. simple as that.

11/9/2008 2:24:37 PM

jaybee, what about Jim Davis, creator of Garfield? He IS orange...

11/9/2008 2:29:29 PM

Quote :

"Davis would have to be nuts to leave UNC."

keep telling yourself that and we'll see how it works out

11/9/2008 2:50:33 PM

it's really beyond me why people think davis, a guy who left a great job at miami for the worst team in the nfl, wouldn't leave unc for the sec b/c he has an easier chance at winning his conference at unc.

come on people.

11/9/2008 3:56:14 PM

Davis to Arkansas

11/9/2008 4:16:26 PM

the word is 4 mil

11/9/2008 4:21:10 PM

if I were him I'd take the pay raise and job security at UNC where he has a better shot at a conference title every year.


But I'm also 23 years old and $80,000 in debt. fuck.

11/9/2008 4:30:13 PM

^^&^^^source or link?

11/9/2008 4:38:57 PM

I think they're joking because that was the big rumor last year.

11/9/2008 4:40:10 PM

the joke is the pay raise he got because of it

11/9/2008 9:01:16 PM

^4-8 and a 400,000 raise

what a joke

11/9/2008 9:11:59 PM

Quote :

"if I were him I'd take the pay raise and job security at UNC where he has a better shot at a conference title every year. But I'm also 23 years old and $80,000 in debt. fuck."

haha ftw

11/9/2008 9:26:58 PM

UNC won't give him another raise and won't pay him more than what Roy Williams makes.

Also, at Tennessee Butch Davis won't be 2nd best to Roy and UNC Basketball. As an accomplished coach I'm sure he really hates coaching in someone's shadow.

It's just funny to me how this thread was started b/c of a rumor on Packpride and now we have the links to a Tenn Sports website claiming Davis is leading candidate. Def some truth behind the rumor then.

11/9/2008 10:28:42 PM

^ oh its not a rumor that he is one of their top choices, maybe even THE top... might be a rumor on if he will go or not, but its a no brainer that hes on their list

11/9/2008 10:47:27 PM

in regards to this article......http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2008/nov/08/davis-is-leading-candidate-to-replace-fulmer/

they first state that Davis is their number 1 and then this quote follows shortly thereafter...

Quote :

"UT athletic director Mike Hamilton said the search process is "very, very active" for UT's next coach and that feedback from potential candidates has been positive."

Also, though you can't read the full story, this is pretty cool too,

http://tennessee.scout.com/a.z?s=7&p=2&c=809892&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2ftennessee.scout.com%2f2%2f809892.html%3frefid%3d400


Again, this is a win/win for those that hate UNC, mostly. Either Butch leaves them high and dry after this season or he blackmails the UNC BOT for another raise, probably around a million a year to compete with the UT offer that is sure to be stout.

This is all we really have to hold onto this year for good football entertainment as NCSU fans.

11/10/2008 12:52:52 AM

^^care to explain to the UNC tards why the UT job is more attractive than the Arkansas job? I tried to tell them that Arkansas was a disaster but they didn't want to listen.

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 12:58 AM. Reason : .]

11/10/2008 12:58:01 AM

quite frankly, i really don't give a shit if he blackmails us for more money. thats the way it goes for quality coaches, until of course the program is well regarded enough where schools don't even bother asking (like OU, bama, florida, etc)

however, baddour better pony the fuck up

11/10/2008 1:03:52 AM

why would he?

he got a raise last year...Roy wont be making nearly as much and won a NC.

theyd have to re-write legislation again.

11/10/2008 1:18:51 AM

^^^ bigger program, more traditional program, better recent success, better facilities, stadium, much bigger fan base, larger budget, larger recruiting budget, bigger salary

[Edited on November 10, 2008 at 1:19 AM. Reason : d]

11/10/2008 1:18:53 AM