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Flyin Ryan
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"I wonder if Paul will drop out"


He was already scheduled to speak in his home district tomorrow.

MSNBC calls Georgia for Huckabee.

2/5/2008 10:41:54 PM

deerpark101
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I think Paul will and run a third party bid

He raised huge amounts of money but has yet to spent very much

and

He scheduled no public appearance tonight

2/5/2008 10:41:56 PM

skokiaan
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"There's whispers that Arizona might be a lot closer than most expected and Romney might've nipped it from McCain"


Just called it for mccain. You can ignore any future whispers from the idiot who said this.


Why would paul quit now? He's known he had a hopeless cause for months.


[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2008 10:43:24 PM

Flyin Ryan
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"I think Paul will and run a third party bid"


Doubtful, unless he took the LP line (it's been offered officially). The ballot access is killer.

FWIW, he's already said he won't do it.

2/5/2008 10:44:01 PM

skokiaan
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Hillary doing well among seniors because seniors are racist.

2/5/2008 10:44:54 PM

Flyin Ryan
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"Just called it for mccain. You can ignore any future whispers from the idiot who said this."


It was from McCain's staff who reportedly told it to Tucker Carlson, and came from exit polls.

https://www.azcentral.com/my/zage.php?referer=http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0205mccain-arizona0205-ON.html

2/5/2008 10:46:12 PM

JCASHFAN
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"I wonder if Paul will drop out"
Why? He's on a crusade and he knows that his voice will be heard as long as he has money, and his supporters are all to happy to provide it just so they'll be heard.

2/5/2008 10:50:53 PM

skokiaan
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^^ so, ignore tucker carlson. got it

2/5/2008 10:51:59 PM

Flyin Ryan
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Democrats

Alabama - Obama winner
Arizona - Clinton leading 51-39
Arkansas - Clinton winner
California - polls about to close
Connecticut - Obama winner
Delaware - Obama winner
Georgia - Obama winner
Illinois - Obama winner
Massachusetts - Clinton winner
Missouri - Clinton leading 53-44
New Jersey - Clinton winner
New York - Clinton winner
Oklahoma - Clinton winner
Tennessee - Clinton winner
Utah - Obama winner
Alaska - caucuses close at 12:30am
Colorado - Obama leading 65-34
Idaho - Obama winner
Kansas - Obama winner
Minnesota - Obama winner
New Mexico - polls not closed yet
North Dakota - Obama winner

Republicans

Alabama - Huckabee winner
Arizona - McCain winner
Arkansas - Huckabee winner
California - polls about to close
Connecticut - McCain winner
Delaware - McCain winner
Georgia - Huckabee winner
Illinois - McCain winner
Massachusetts - Romney winner
Missouri - Huckabee leading 35-31
New Jersey - McCain winner
New York - McCain winner
Oklahoma - McCain winner
Tennessee - Huckabee leading 34-32
Utah - Romney winner
Alaska - caucuses close at 12:30am
Colorado - Romney leading 44-27
Minnesota - Romney leading 38-23
Montana - Romney leading 35-27
North Dakota - Romney winner
West Virginia - Huckabee winner

[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM. Reason : /]

2/5/2008 10:59:30 PM

bbehe
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Cali is too close to call

2/5/2008 11:00:48 PM

bbehe
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

has a real good break down of the polls

2/5/2008 11:02:08 PM

Charybdisjim
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I love how edwards was still on ballots. Right now with 84% of the precincts reporting in kansas he was 21 votes. Next up is clinton with around 6900. I wonder if those 21 people even realize how sad and alone they are.

[Edited on February 5, 2008 at 11:07 PM. Reason : no spelling nazis]

2/5/2008 11:05:06 PM

JCASHFAN
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Clinton's picked up 58 today, Obama 56. Pretty tight still.

McCain has picked up 271, Romney . . . not so much.


Oh shit, Gravel is still in the race. Who knew?

2/5/2008 11:10:09 PM

Flyin Ryan
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MSNBC (just done) estimation on delegates. This can of course change due to results in CA for example:

Obama 584, Clinton 526

McCain 400-650 delegates
Romney 170-428 delegates
Huckabee around 200 delegates

Paul's best finish tonight is Montana, where he's 2nd behind Romney.

2/5/2008 11:28:55 PM

slamjamason
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Wow with the counties remaining looks like Obama might actually pull out Missouri by a few hundred votes - didn't see that coming....

My math has him winning MO by 5,000+ votes

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:01 AM. Reason : math]

2/5/2008 11:52:39 PM

roddy
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dont know why they havent called CA yet, it is pretty obvious Clinton is going to win and it has been for days, despite what the media was saying.....I guess they just want to keep people viewing...

2/5/2008 11:57:37 PM

Mr E Nigma
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Missouri is basically for bragging rights now...they are going to split the delegates it appears.


Obama came on strong at the end though.

2/6/2008 12:01:22 AM

skokiaan
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i thought hispanics would vote for obama

2/6/2008 12:01:47 AM

slamjamason
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Yeah Clinton is winning in just about every county in CA so far...unless the early precincts are not a good sample then it shouldn't be close.

But even with Clinton winning California, in my opinion this is definitely Obama's night

2/6/2008 12:11:18 AM

roddy
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Obama didnt do anything that he wasnt suppose to do, yeah, Clinton won the states she was suppose to and he did the ones he was suppose to, no REAL suprises, the two states Obama supposedly took from Clinton they will split the delegates. It will be interesting what VA does....and they keep talking about how the donors for Obama havent maxed out....duh, they arent going to be able to max out since most are college kids who cant afford too.

Anyways, off to bed.

It would of been Obama's night if he won CA, NJ or MAS and he didnt.

2/6/2008 12:20:49 AM

slamjamason
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^

I think MO, CT, DE, and having so many crushing victories in the caucuses and the states he was expected to win are what give Obama the night.

No one predicted (that I saw) Alabama by 15%, Colorado by 30%... MN was supposed to be close but he won by 30%. He's up 80% to 16% in Idaho at the moment

2/6/2008 12:27:08 AM

ncsu1128
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close night for the dems...going to go a long time...nc might actually get to vote on this one...obama has a lot of money left and has raised more than clinton, could be very close and he will win missouri. Obama also has good states coming up for him in louisiana and va. and md. Ohio could be interesting too as it is coming up as well.

unfortunately mccain is going to win since romney and huckabee are canceling each other out, seems to me we are watching whether or not hillary or obama will be pres.

2/6/2008 12:31:51 AM

slamjamason
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Pundits now saying Romney may drop out tomorrow....going to have "serious discussions"

2/6/2008 12:34:25 AM

ncsu1128
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^ he might as well stop wasting his money...i want him to win, but with him and huckabee in this they have no chance, and huckabee isn't going anywhere after tonight. i still think if huckabee never ran romney would have won the republican nomination, but he is there and since he is romney has no chance. huckabee can only hope for a vp nod. even though it looks like the florida governor might get it as he is everywhere mccain is.

2/6/2008 12:39:59 AM

markgoal
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Wolf Blitzer just said Alaska is allocating delegates by Congressional district. Huh?

2/6/2008 12:48:18 AM

Republican18
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McCain and Huckabee are in cahoots, if Huckabee wasnt in then Romney would win. Huck is hoping for a job in the McCain admin.

2/6/2008 12:50:58 AM

xvang
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Wow. I thought the republican nominees couldn't get any more wacko since that last election. This election is proving me wrong.

I really do hope democrats win and socialize this country. Maybe then coservatives will get their heads out of our rear ends and see where this party has gone wrong.

2/6/2008 12:52:07 AM

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"i thought hispanics would vote for obama"


lol

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:53 AM. Reason : ^i think mccain would do a good job]

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:54 AM. Reason : but def. picking a dem over mccain/preacher]

2/6/2008 12:52:41 AM

ncsu1128
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^^^^ all democratic states are doing that...basically it ends up if one candidate wins 60 to 40 they will get 60 percent of the delegates even though it is not exact. They take the percentages in each district and allocate delegates accordingly. But it ends up about the same as the state average. For example obama looks like he will win missouri but he will basically split the delegates with hillary since the vote is 49 to 48.

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 12:53 AM. Reason : s]

2/6/2008 12:53:22 AM

markgoal
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^
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"Wolf Blitzer just said Alaska is allocating delegates by Congressional district. Huh?"

2/6/2008 12:58:19 AM

slamjamason
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^ haha ... that took me a second

2/6/2008 1:01:01 AM

ncsu1128
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^ yes alaska is, but so is every democratic state. some republican states are too but some are winner take all. no democratic state is winner take all, they are all basically based on the overall percentage of votes.

oh i get what your saying now...

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:03 AM. Reason : cause no one lives in alaska...i see]

2/6/2008 1:01:26 AM

GrumpyGOP
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You are missing the point, methinks

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:04 AM. Reason : Alaska only has one congressional district]

2/6/2008 1:04:10 AM

ncsu1128
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haha...yeah that one went right over my head

2/6/2008 1:07:16 AM

markgoal
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Hilary is running the Giuliani strategy, only she is actually being effective with it. Obama is racking up the South, Midwest, and West. Obama v. McCain could potentially bring more states into play in the general election.

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:13 AM. Reason : .]

2/6/2008 1:10:19 AM

NCBRETTSU
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Obama is racking up in the West??

2/6/2008 1:18:09 AM

ncsu1128
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why is 10% of california voting for edwards...and even other states voting for edwards.

is it absentee/early voting or do people want to waste their vote?

2/6/2008 1:18:52 AM

joepeshi
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Yeh an obama vs mccain race would flip the map all the way around.

2/6/2008 1:19:06 AM

skokiaan
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In conclusion, hispanics hate obama.

2/6/2008 1:25:39 AM

slamjamason
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^^ I was just thinking that...

Obama/McCain a ton of states would be in play....I think you would be looking at maybe 25 safe states tops.

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:26 AM. Reason : .]

2/6/2008 1:26:08 AM

NCBRETTSU
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Latin people dont really like black people anyways do they?

2/6/2008 1:28:09 AM

skokiaan
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In an obama/mccain race, I don't see how it would be different, other than with a obama taking most of swing states. no red of blue state would flip.


[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 1:30 AM. Reason : ^nope!]

2/6/2008 1:28:57 AM

Mangy Wolf
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It looks like the TV newsmedia won. The Republicans were snookered by nine-month-out polling data. Now we can watch the debacle unfold.

2/6/2008 1:30:09 AM

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^huh??

2/6/2008 2:29:58 AM

theDuke866
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he's whining about McCain

another conservative who doesn't even recognize what's good for him

2/6/2008 2:32:39 AM

drunknloaded
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seriously...mccain is gonna be a good version of george w bush

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 2:37 AM. Reason : cause in some respects i can appreciate whats hes managed to do since hes become pres]

2/6/2008 2:36:15 AM

GrumpyGOP
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It makes me so happy that Mangy Wolf is upset. Not as happy as McCain's victories today, but happy nonetheless.

2/6/2008 3:07:54 AM

tromboner950
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California is currently reporting in about 70%, looks like Clinton is up 53% to 40% right now... and apparently 5% of voters (about 150,000 right now) in the state are stubborn/dumb/apathetic enough to do a write-in for Edwards.

[Edited on February 6, 2008 at 4:34 AM. Reason : .]

2/6/2008 4:29:29 AM

markgoal
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"Obama is racking up in the West??"

Colorado
Idaho
North Dakota
Utah

Not many delegates, but he is winning there. Clinton obviously got California (West Coast /= West), Nevada, and Arizona which have very different demographics. Nevada and and Arizona are full of transplant retirees, kind of like the Florida of the West. New Mexico appears to be a tossup.

2/6/2008 6:49:57 AM

Republican18
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McCains age will be a problem for him, mark my words

2/6/2008 7:22:45 AM

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