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DROD900
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is Hoggard still doing well?

we always SUCKED at football when I went there, now all of a sudden they are kicking ass

10/19/2007 10:44:15 AM

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Yes, they're having an outstanding season. The schedule hasn't been that tough, but no one has given them a game all year. They are expected to be the top seed (and heavy favorite) in the 4A East, unless enrollment has increased enough to put them into the 4AA East, where they would still be the favorite.

The Fantastic 50, for October 16, 2007
1) Independence (7-1) 152.5 (LW#1)
2) Charlotte Latin (8-0) 145.3 (LW#2)
3) W. Alamance (9-0) 139.2 (LW#4)
4) W. Charlotte (7-1) 138.6 (LW#6)
5) Hoggard (7-0) 138.5 (LW#7)

#5 Hoggard (7-0), Rating:138.5, #3 of 93 in 4A
Conference: Mideastern 3A/4A (3-0)
Conf. Finish: 1st-90%, 2nd-10%, 3rd-0%
Already clinched a playoff berth
Schedule (thus far): #152 toughest overall, #70 in 4A
Week #2: Won 39-13 vs. #38 New Bern (6-2)
Week #3: Won 38-6 vs. #161 Harnett Central (4-4)
Week #5: Won 48-17 vs. #52 Rose (5-3)
Week #6: Won 53-0 at #300 W. Brunswick (0-8)
Week #7: Won 35-19 at #276 Kinston (2-6)
Week #8: Won 41-13 vs. #182 White Oak (4-4)
Week #9: Won 41-21 vs. #198 Ashley (4-5)
Week #10: vs. #206 Laney (4-3) 99% W (35 pts.)
Week #11: at #154 Jacksonville (5-3) 98% W (29 pts.)
Week #12: at #71 New Hanover (5-4) 94% W (22 pts.)

10/19/2007 11:12:56 AM

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what is your opinion of Leesville Rd? After they beat Sanderson fairly easily last week, what do you think the outcome of the CAP-7 will be?

10/19/2007 11:25:42 AM

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Leesville is the best team in the Cap Seven; opinion is split over the best team in the area, between Garner and the Pride. I was shocked at their dismantling of Sanderson last week; the Spartans are a pretty decent team. Because Leesville is putting up a lot of points, their defense is going largely unnoticed, but it's probably the best overall defense in the area; they've given up more than seven points only twice all year. (In comparing defenses, I'd put Fuquay-Varina's run defense #1 locally, and they've also given up more than 7 points only twice, but their DBs were torched by Athens Drive.)

Leesville is the odds-on favorite to take the Cap Seven, which is easily the area's strongest league, but it's far from a done deal. I have them favored by 9 points tonight against Millbrook, and 8 in the finale against WFR. The rain is a great equalizer, and Millbrook has the talent to pull the upset, if Leesville turns the ball over multiple times.

With the three Cap Seven powers, plus Garner, Southeast Raleigh, and Athens Drive all likely to be high seeds in the 4AA east, Wake County football is the strongest that I've ever seen it, and there will be some terrific playoff games among that group. Home field advantage will likely be decided by draws, as there will be multiple conference champions reporting 10-0 records (one non-conf. game is dropped for teams that play eleven.) Additionally, Fuquay-Varina could win a couple of playoff games in the 4A East, which will be a much weaker bracket; I think they'll be the only Wake school in the small 4A playoffs.

There are some good teams from outside of the area, and Athens Drive is capable of beating anyone, but my hunch is that Garner and Leesville will be playing in early December for the right to face Indepedence in the 4AA state championship game.

10/19/2007 12:12:49 PM

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Fuquay-Varina 36, Green Hope 0
Garner 24, Southeast Raleigh 19
Leesville Road 38, Millbrook 35
Wake Forest-Rolesville 21, Sanderson 3

Richmond County 30, Scotland County 27 (OT)

10/19/2007 10:38:23 PM

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East Lincoln 57
West Lincoln 24

It was 57-8, until the backups were brought in. Up next, the bye week, followed by South Iredell.

Other scores:

Charlotte Latin 42
South Point 20

Shelby 27
RS Central 3

Lincolnton 41
Bessemer City 28

North Lincoln 23
Cherryville 9

Mountain Heritage 22
Mitchell County 14

Bandys 23 (may be wrong on this part, but not on Maiden. Either way, it's an upset)
Maiden 0

North Gaston 50
East Gaston 13

Charlotte Catholic 35
West Mecklenburg 15

Crest 56
Hunter Huss 14

10/19/2007 11:31:57 PM

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I'm not really convinced of the Cap 7 strength yet. They haven't really beaten anyone good out of conference ...

Millbrook lost to garner, its only real out of conference team with a legit winning record.

Leesville just beat Millbrook, and that is the only team with a winning record they have played, unless you count sanderson as a legit team (also hasn't beat a team with a good record)

I think you may see garner reach the east finals and see someone out of the area playing them. There are plenty of strong teams elsewhere in the state.

10/20/2007 9:24:42 AM

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Without question, there are a lot of good teams in other areas, but very few will be in the 4AA East. The 4AA West is much better overall.

10/20/2007 9:30:38 AM

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Think your old school's team is bad? It could always be worse...

Central Academy of Technology & Arts (a 1A school in Monroe, NC) is 0-9.
Points allowed: 512 (57 PPG)
Closest margin of defeat: 35 points
Points scored: Zero

10/21/2007 2:33:59 PM

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wow that would not be fun at all

10/21/2007 2:52:17 PM

bigun60
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ouch..... Glad Leesville is doing slightly better than that.....

10/21/2007 5:09:13 PM

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GO HOGGARD VIKINGS!

10/21/2007 10:43:40 PM

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damn, somebody on TWW is famous.
http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/746069.html

10/23/2007 9:34:05 AM

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Man, I saw that you had East Lincoln VS. North Lincoln in the playoffs. Boy would we love that rematch.

10/23/2007 10:44:00 AM

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^^ I was a bit surprised when Tim Stevens of the N&O called, but it seems that my rankings are starting to catch on around the state, after seven years. My e-mail has jammed with questions from coaches and fans after that article ran...

Week Eleven - October 26-29

The Fantastic 50
1) Independence (8-1) 152.0 (LW#1)
2) Charlotte Latin (9-0) 150.1 (LW#2)
3) W. Alamance (10-0) 140.2 (LW#3)
4) W. Charlotte (8-1) 138.7 (LW#4)
5) Hoggard (8-0) 138.1 (LW#5)
6) Rocky Mount (9-0) 137.2 (LW#6)
7) Richmond County (9-0) 136.0 (LW#7)
8) Asheville (7-1) 135.2 (LW#8)
9) N. Gaston (8-1) 133.8 (LW#12)
10) James Kenan (9-0) 133.6 (LW#9)

In addition to the usual rankings and predictions, I also have playoff bubble information and projected playoff brackets on the web site... http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rdpasteu/football/

Game of the Week
Millbrook (7-2, 3-1 Cap Seven) at #36 Wake Forest-Rolesville (9-0, 4-0) - part 2 of the Cap 7 championship series

Also worth watching
Middle Creek (4-5, 4-1 Tri Eight) at Athens Drive (9-0, 5-0) - AD can lock up the league title with a win
Apex (5-4, 3-2 Tri Eight) at Fuquay-Varina (8-1, 4-1)
Roxboro Person (5-3, 4-1 PAC) at Durham Jordan (5-4, 3-2) - Person can still get a share of the PAC championship
West Johnston (5-4, 4-1 Greater Neuse) at Smithfield-Selma (6-3, 2-3) SSS is falling apart after a 5-0 start

All the rest
Wakefield (5-5, 1-4 Cap Seven) at Broughton (3-6, 1-3)
Sanderson (5-4, 1-3 Cap Seven) at Enloe (3-6, 0-4)
Holly Springs (0-9, 0-5 Greater Neuse) at Southeast Raleigh (7-2, 4-1)
East Wake (1-8, 1-4 Greater Neuse) at #16 Garner (9-0, 5-0)
Panther Creek (1-8, 0-5 Tri Eight) at Cary (4-5, 2-3) - Cary clenches a playoff berth with a win
Clayton (3-6, 2-3 Greater Neuse) at Knightdale (2-7, 2-3) - A win gets Clayton a postseason berth
Durham Hillside (7-2, 4-1 PAC) at Northern Durham (2-7, 1-4) - a must-win for ND's playoff hopes
Durham Riverside (1-8, 1-4 PAC) at Chapel Hill (3-6, 2-3)
Southern Durham (5-4, 4-1 PAC) at East Chapel Hill (1-8, 1-4) - SD takes the PAC's top playoff seed with 2 wins
Green Hope (1-8, 1-4 Tri Eight) at Lee County (2-7, 1-4) - Lee must win their last 2 games to get in the playoffs


Three big games in other parts of the state...
#1 Char. Independence (8-1, 5-0) at #37 East Mecklenburg (7-2, 4-1)
#3 Western Alamance (10-0, 5-0) #41 Greensboro Dudley (6-2, 3-1)
#12 Belmont South Point (8-1, 4-0) at #9 North Gaston (8-1, 5-0) - For the Big South championship


The big winner may be the rain. WRAL-TV is updating a list of postponements...
http://www.wral.com/sports/prepsports/story/1962117/

10/26/2007 10:16:54 AM

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Hope Cary doesn't get rained out tonight. It's homecoming and my sister is on the homecoming court as a senior. If they postpone until tomorrow nigt, I will be furious.

Also, it still amazes me at the football teams who make the playoffs compared to other sports. For example, I played baseball at Cary HS and we had a good team... finished 3rd a couple of years I played varsity but only the top two made the playoffs. And our conference was loaded in baseball (Lee County, Apex, Green Hope, and Fuquay among others)... then in football they take like 5 or so teams.



[Edited on October 26, 2007 at 11:56 AM. Reason : 1]

10/26/2007 11:54:23 AM

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Panther Creek @ Cary on as scheduled according to someone I just talked to at the High School. Terrell Manning's Scotland County squad plays tomorrow night so guess he won't be at the UVa game.

Atleast someone appears to be playing around here tonight... GO IMPS

10/26/2007 12:07:01 PM

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Playoffs in both football and baseball have been expanded in recent years, to 64 teams per class (of 90-95).

Cary may be the only place playing tonight locally. Most schools are postponing to Saturday or Monday because of field conditions...Fuquay's has standing water.

10/26/2007 12:36:12 PM

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I just spoke to the assist. ath. director at cary again. apparently they had a big meeting this morning and the ad decided to NOT cancel the game unless there is lightning. personally, i can't believe it. i live about 2 miles from CHS and it has been pissing here all day.

i was told if they do end up cancelling, it would be played tomorrow night at 7. right in the middle of the state game.

10/26/2007 1:12:00 PM

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DAMN IT


Cary game has been moved to tomorrow night at 7pm.

What the hell do I do? My sister is a senior and on homecoming court... But do I sacrifice a NCSU football game for that?

10/26/2007 1:15:57 PM

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Still on for tonight...
Cedar Ridge at Pittsboro Northwood
Green Hope at Lee County

Saturday 7:00
Sanderson at Enloe
Panther Creek at Cary
Apex at Fuquay-Varina

Monday 7:00
Wakefield at Broughton
Holly Springs at Southeast Raleigh
Middle Creek at Athens Drive
Clayton at Knightdale
East Wake at Garner
Millbrook at Wake Forest-Rolesville
Durham Hillside at Northern Durham
Roxboro Person at Durham Jordan
Durham Riverside at Chapel Hill (6:30)
West Johnston at Smithfield-Selma
Roanoke Rapids at Bunn

10/26/2007 4:09:42 PM

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Quote :
"My sister is a senior and on homecoming court... But do I sacrifice a NCSU football game for that?"


hopefully you are being sarcastic.


but this sucks, it was going to be the only Smithfield-Selma game i could to this year before going to sea. now i have to go back to work in Virginia on monday...SAD

10/26/2007 4:39:33 PM

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im gonna tailgate startin at 11 for the football game and watch the 1st half, but after that im gonna head over to cary to see the sister for homecoming. damn family.

cary has fuquay next week in a big conference game, so i guess they both agreed to play this weeks game tomorrow night instead of monday so they have more time to prepare for each other.

10/26/2007 5:47:27 PM

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umm, we suck this year, i dont see how you could care about the ncsu game. your sister is only in this thing once, family is more important...puting sports over family is retarded.

10/26/2007 5:52:47 PM

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true, it sucks. after all the baseball games she got suckered into, i figured i owe her one on one of the biggest nights of her life. damn sister.

10/26/2007 7:02:34 PM

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Seriously...go and be there for your sister.

There was no agreement between Cary and Fuquay about when they would each play...that's a team-by-team decision. If Fuquay beats Apex and Athens beats Middle Creek (both expected) then there won't be anything on the line for Fuquay next week; they'll finish 2nd in the Tri-Eight, win or lose.

10/26/2007 10:11:01 PM

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And Cary will make the playoffs despite a horeshit record. Gotta love football playoffs.

10/27/2007 2:53:28 AM

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Cary needs one more win (which they should get tonight) to be safely in. If they lose their last two, they'll be squarely on the bubble. Even if they do get in, they're looking at a first-round trip to one of the four undefeated teams in the 4AA East (Garner, Leesville, Athens Drive, and the Leesville/WFR winner). It's likely to be a short stay in the postseason, but at least they get one more week of practice, and the Imps could pull off the big upset, like they did last year at New Bern.

#1 Charlotte Independence 21, #37 East Mecklenburg 7
#2 Charlotte Latin 20, #13 Charlotte Country Day 13
Franklin (4-5) 21, #8 Asheville (7-1) 20
#8 Asheville loses to Franklin (which had a losing record), 21-20

Locally, Lee County 21, Green Hope 0

10/27/2007 11:03:16 AM

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Fuquay-Varina 20, Apex 10

Fayetteville 71st upsets #7 Richmond County, 13-6.

10/27/2007 9:59:35 PM

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Some games over on this side of the state were postponed until tonight. Here's some scores.

The big game:
South Point 38
North Gaston 35

St. Stephens 27
Maiden 14

Bessemer City 20
South Iredell 14

Hunter Huss 55
Forestview 52

10/29/2007 10:01:47 PM

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millbrook loses another close one 13-12 to rolesville

10/29/2007 10:02:26 PM

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NICE!

Undefeated Leesville Road plays Undefeated Wake Forest-Rollesville this friday night. I would soo be there if I wasn't going to Miami!

10/29/2007 10:18:00 PM

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at leesville?

10/29/2007 10:42:55 PM

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Person High -14
Durham Jordan-10

Fuckin right, Go Rockets!!

10/29/2007 11:30:59 PM

hgtran
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any news on the athens drive game?

10/30/2007 12:45:13 AM

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Middle Creek 42, Athens Drive 28 - MC pulls off the upset rather easily. I heard that it could have been worse than it was. This sets up a potential three-way tie between these two and Fuquay-Varina for the Tri-Eight championship. That could really drop the seed of Fuquay or Athens, despite likely 10-1 records, if either draws #3 and is in the same class as Middle Creek.

Updated bracket projections: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rdpasteu/football

10/30/2007 6:02:57 AM

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Yes the Leesville/ WFR game is At Leesville on Friday night. Should be a good game.

10/30/2007 8:04:22 AM

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princeton in the west?^^

they are east of raliegh. ha

10/30/2007 8:59:51 AM

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yea i dont understand princeton in the west either?

cary @ garner would be a fun first round match up. this rivalry has been stopped recently and the only way it can happen is if they meet up in the playoffs. hope it works out this way.

10/30/2007 9:40:25 AM

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nevermind...

[Edited on October 30, 2007 at 10:11 AM. Reason : the info on the teams isn't updated yet]

10/30/2007 10:09:49 AM

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"Think your old school's team is bad? It could always be worse...

Central Academy of Technology & Arts (a 1A school in Monroe, NC) is 0-9.
Points allowed: 512 (57 PPG)
Closest margin of defeat: 35 points
Points scored: Zero"


I am from Monroe and i believe this school just opened this year. If I am not mistaken then this used to the the "career center" it was a program where kids that wanted to go to community college could attend and take courses towards their associates. Something along those lines, regardless this doesn't surprise me at all, I was surprised they even had a football team.

[Edited on October 30, 2007 at 10:18 AM. Reason : asd]

10/30/2007 10:16:07 AM

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^*6.....

Andrews at N. Duplin? That has to be a 10+ hour bus ride.

Is it safe to safe TOO MANY teams make the playoffs?

10/30/2007 10:21:07 AM

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Without a doubt.

10/30/2007 10:31:27 AM

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^^yeah, I'd think so.

The NCHSAA gets a cut of playoff game ticket sales. so more teams=more games=more $$

10/30/2007 1:27:01 PM

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Rolesville is a town with a total of 7 stoplights, so it's really Wake Forest instead of Rolesville for short.

10/30/2007 2:03:03 PM

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Princeton in the West and other screwy stuff happens every year, because they split up the 64 teams in each class into groups of 32 by enrollment (1A - 1AA, etc.), then split each group of 32 into two groups of 16 geographically. The smallest schools (1A) are mostly in the eastern third of the state, so a few of them get sent to the mountains to have 16 teams for a 1A west bracket.

Check out some of the previous years' 1A brackets...
http://www.gobiggreen.net/NCHSAA/2000-2007%201A.htm

Also, it's possible that a 10-1 Athens Drive or 10-1 Fuquay-Varina team could get sent on the road in the first round, thanks to those #@#%#@ three-way draws for conference championships, combined with the NCHSAA seeding a 5-5 conference champ ahead of a 10-1 runner-up.

10/30/2007 2:18:17 PM

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Are Nick DeMuro (Athens QB) or Thomas Wilson (Leesville QB) getting any college attention? They seem to be two of the better HS QB's in the triangle area in a few years... I'm sure they are getting some small college love, but do either have a shot at D1?

10/30/2007 2:21:30 PM

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Thomas Wilson and Taylor Gentry (QB and WR from Leesville Road) both are playing in the shrine bowl. So maybe they will get some interest

10/30/2007 4:08:30 PM

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bucky brooks (si.com) was pushing the wfr-leesville game on 850 today...he is millbrook grad but his dad coaches at wfr so his allegiance has shifted

10/30/2007 5:21:16 PM

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I'm surprised the Demuro and the athens WR TJ Kornahay (sp?) get no college attention. Kornahay leads the state in receiving.

10/30/2007 9:22:09 PM

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