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"Naw, you put all your money on 22 BLACK. Use the winnings to fly back for the test, then back to vegas. Foolproof."

hahahah we'll see how i do, if i hit it big i'll consider that. and if i win it on 22 black, i'll fly you back to vegas too.

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"Planning a vegas trip for your 21st is pretty trite I must say."

your point?

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"Who the fuck do you think you are, actually asking him to change his grading system for you?"

My name is Inigo Montoya. (and chill out, holmes. i've had other professors in the past SUGGEST this as an option to taking a make up. worked out fine)


^^ plannin on it

^ naw, unless i make enough money in vegas to buy a flight out and return ticket. we all know this wont happen...i'm not that worried about it anyway, it'll all work out in the end. i'm a good kid and a hard worker, karma is on my side

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9/13/2006 10:42:29 PM

Your parents sound pretty retarded. Mine looked up the academic calendar before buying a trip as a gift for my sister so she wouldn't have to miss any class.

9/13/2006 10:49:14 PM

Yes, my parents are completely retarded and thoughtless and well, just horrible horrible people. I mean who the hell saves up for and plans a trip to las vegas for their son? fuckin a.

9/13/2006 10:54:23 PM

Your education costs tens of thousands of dollars and they are paying for you to miss out on it. Wonderful logic.

9/13/2006 10:57:17 PM

glad to see someone has their priorities in order...cause vegas won't be there after you graduate, neither will alcohol

on a second note, this has to be doster if it's NE...he seemed like a hard ass, but in this case he's right

9/13/2006 10:59:24 PM

Def not Mayo.

9/13/2006 11:00:08 PM

neither. and i hardly think that missing one test is jeopardizing my career in nuclear engineering. i learn in class, i don't get my education. i won't be any worse off for having lived in vegas for a few days than had i stayed in raleigh. this will sound trite and hippy-esque, but life really is about the journey, things like this wont matter in the long run but i'll always remember my trip to vegas for my 21st birthday

9/13/2006 11:03:40 PM

hippy

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9/13/2006 11:04:45 PM

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"My name is Inigo Montoya. (and chill out, holmes. i've had other professors in the past SUGGEST this as an option to taking a make up. worked out fine) "

Exactly. The professors suggested it...not YOU.

9/13/2006 11:06:26 PM

okay, whatever, i'm a conceited douche. you happy?

9/13/2006 11:12:23 PM

I never said don't go, I just figured your parents could spare 5 minutes of their time to check the online calendar. They could of just asked. I mean it's not like its some big secret you weren't supposed to know about until your birthday.

9/13/2006 11:13:06 PM

yeah, i mean it would have been nice if they'd planned it a little more conveniently, but they wanted me to be there ON my bday and that's not really negotiable. besides, there's nothing we can do about the dates, so i've got to work with what i've got

9/13/2006 11:21:32 PM

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"His reply was "well, if you keep up with the bonus work and blah blah, and this exam is only worth X%, you might still do alright.""

If you're one of those smart kids that screw up the curve for the dumber kids, then you'll be OK going on the trip.

If it was me, I'd probably skip Vegas. Heck, I barely passed some of my classes... even with perfect attendance and all assignments turned in on time.

9/14/2006 12:37:07 AM

either man up and take an F or dont go. what are your priorities? pass the class with a good grade or go to vegas for a short trip?

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"What should I do? I don't want to pull a bitch move and involve any outside sources (his higher-ups/associates, my folks, etc), and I'd like to not ruin my name in his eyes (because after all, he grades most of the work). "

lol. i like your logic but if you do some stupid shit like that you're just digging yourself in a hole. you're not going to ruin him by pointing out decisions that he makes that are well within his right.

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"He is obsessed with not cheating and his reasoning is that if he lets me do this (allowing a make up for an absence that is not officially excused by the university) that he will have to allow everyone to do it."

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"I realize that he is in the "legal" right and that he doesnt have to do anything"

exactly.

9/14/2006 1:38:06 AM

i like how people point out things that i've already specifically mentioned, then think that they've achieved some point.

9/14/2006 8:59:50 AM

what did you expect to accomplish with this thread, exactly?

9/14/2006 9:14:39 AM

have you asked if you could take it early? some score is better than no score

like in his office or something just before you leave (show him tickets and such so he won't think you just want an early look at the test)

9/14/2006 9:18:21 AM

WOW! 4 pages and no one has suggested that yet...

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9/14/2006 9:20:35 AM

i hope the professor reads this

9/14/2006 10:47:15 AM

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"i like how people point out things that i've already specifically mentioned, then think that they've achieved some point."

i like how people make threads wanting advice and then get frustrated when they dont get the answer and sympathy that they wanted.

9/14/2006 11:14:16 AM

omg when I go back to school, and if I ever teach a class, I am going to be one of those who keeps his ear to the street and busts students on stuff like this

9/14/2006 11:15:31 AM

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"i hope the professor reads this "

there's a lot of stupidity in this thread - not just on paerabol's part. anyone in school administration who reads this would probably laugh hysterically at the idiocy presented or cry themselves into depression and an early suicide because of the decline of human intelligence proven by the opinions in this thread.

i was surprised myself so many people thought the professor should let him make it up for a fucking trip to vegas so he can get ass-drunk and gamble. i don't understand you people.

9/14/2006 11:17:29 AM

It depends on the philosophy of the instructor. Aside from syllabus weights, there are social and psychological consequences with performance.

If it's a hard science with strict adherence to the letter of the syllabus, then negotiating adjustment of weighting in exchange for missing an exam might be a good bet.

If it's a humanity where psychological manipulation of the professor is a daily struggle, presenting the impression that you are there to worship their magnitude is the best option, so going with Vegas could be damning in that case.

9/14/2006 11:23:31 AM

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"what did you expect to accomplish with this thread, exactly?"

just trying to cover all bases, maybe someone would have had an idea i hadn't thought of. figured i'd give it a shot.

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"have you asked if you could take it early? some score is better than no score"

yeah (as i've said a couple times in the thread, though i can't blame you in the least for not reading it), he didn't like that idea

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"i like how people make threads wanting advice and then get frustrated when they dont get the answer and sympathy that they wanted."

i don't need or want anybody's sympathy, i wanted advice. out of all the replies here, the vast majority are either bashing me or providing sympathy, when all i really wanted was a new idea. though i do thank those that have been mature in here.

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"i was surprised myself so many people thought the professor should let him make it up for a fucking trip to vegas so he can get ass-drunk and gamble. i don't understand you people."

it's not that i think he "should" in the sense that he should feel obligated or that i have any right to expect his compliance with a pleasure trip. i was just suprised by the tenacity with which he denied my requests, especially since i've been in college for a while and have had a lot more assholish professors grant me those kinds of favors. i don't have any resentment or hard feelings toward him at all, it's his call and he'll do what he feels is right. but none of you can deny that in my situation that you wouldn't at least TRY to get him to allow a make-up, or some other arrangement. that's all i'm doing.

9/14/2006 11:56:16 AM

why dont you just take the test early?

9/14/2006 11:58:01 AM

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"it's not that i think he "should" in the sense that he should feel obligated or that i have any right to expect his compliance with a pleasure trip. i was just suprised by the tenacity with which he denied my requests, especially since i've been in college for a while and have had a lot more assholish professors grant me those kinds of favors. i don't have any resentment or hard feelings toward him at all, it's his call and he'll do what he feels is right. but none of you can deny that in my situation that you wouldn't at least TRY to get him to allow a make-up, or some other arrangement. that's all i'm doing."

i wouldn't have gotten in your situation. ever.

so there's no need to confirm or deny anything.

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9/14/2006 11:59:50 AM

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"why dont you just take the test early? "

I have never had a prof turn that offer down. It's like you're firing a shot across their bow. They can't resist the challenge because you're wagering you don't even need their instruction to prove your performance. They can't resist obliging.

9/14/2006 12:02:00 PM

9/14/2006 1:04:55 PM

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"What should I do? I don't want to pull a bitch move and involve any outside sources (his higher-ups/associates, my folks, etc), neither of the other professors (of higher-level classes) had an issue with it "

I doubt bringing in any higher ups (including Mom and Dad- c'mon??!!) are going to change the prof's mind.

Furthermore, the fact that "other professors" didn't have a problem with it isn't your prof's problem. That's like whining "mom, all the OTHER kids get to go to the party. Ed's Mom is letting HIM go!!!"


Just swallow the zero and hope for the best. OR ask him would he be willing to use your score from one of the other exams this semester as a replacement? I don't know- I don't think you have a good case here.



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9/14/2006 1:32:00 PM

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"why dont you just take the test early?"

9/14/2006 2:25:35 PM

^ditto..that always worked for me in undergrad and has even worked in grad school.

tell them you will take the test in their office at their convenience because it's a situation you can't avoid and the class is very important to you...

9/14/2006 2:38:43 PM

^^

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"yeah (as i've said a couple times in the thread, though i can't blame you in the least for not reading it), he didn't like that idea"

Is anyone actually reading the thread?

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9/14/2006 2:46:23 PM

^oh...no i didn't read all 4 pages...

9/14/2006 2:49:51 PM

how about taking the test early? have you tried asking the professor if that would be ok?

9/14/2006 2:59:50 PM

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"Is anyone actually reading the thread?"

At this point, probably not. All original ideas have expired and the time is ticking down. I was waiting to see what the mod's point of view on this thread was ... apparently one of amusement.

I feel this thread should die until he gets back from Vegas with pictures. I wanna see some pr0n ... be the best post in this thread.

9/14/2006 3:04:38 PM

You could try taking the test early...

9/14/2006 3:05:56 PM

You should ask him if you can take the test early

9/14/2006 3:08:50 PM

a) suck it up and take the bad grade.
b) don't go on the trip.
c) have cake and eat it, too.

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"He is obsessed with not cheating and his reasoning is that if he lets me do this (allowing a make up for an absence that is not officially excused by the university) that he will have to allow everyone to do it."

try to see it from his perspective for a minute. you're asking him to do extra work so you can go and have fun. this situation is your parents' fault. airline tickets may not be "transferrable" or "refundable" but they often can and will give you the equivalent of "store credit" if you have to make changes to your reservation. take a copy of the syllabus and a good puppy-dog face to the ticket counter at RDU and see if someone working for the airline will cut you a break.

9/14/2006 3:51:37 PM

Hey man, have you considered taking the test early?

9/14/2006 3:53:12 PM

try asking the professor if you can take the test early

9/14/2006 4:35:59 PM

Usually they hear you better when you suggest taking it PRIOR to your trip, rather than after.

9/14/2006 4:43:51 PM

^,^^,^^^Yeah, he tried that.

9/14/2006 4:57:28 PM

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"take a copy of the syllabus and a good puppy-dog face to the ticket counter at RDU and see if someone working for the airline will cut you a break."

You're just as bad as him asking his professor to count his next test double.

Who does this shit? Who the fuck takes a class syllabus to an airline and asks for a break? This is pretty pathetic.

I get breaks cut for me all the time, but I don't ask for them. I take what's given and try to appreciate it.

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9/14/2006 5:04:09 PM

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"i wouldn't have gotten in your situation. ever."

haha, okay. hey, while i have your attention, can you grant me some of your god power? or can i type in the cheat code so conflicts never happen to me? isn't it like "iddqd" or something?

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"I have never had a prof turn that offer down. It's like you're firing a shot across their bow. They can't resist the challenge because you're wagering you don't even need their instruction to prove your performance. They can't resist obliging."

yeah i haven't either, but i guess he didn't feel like making the test up early (which i don't blame him a bit for, so calm down all you triggerhappy badasses out there)

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"OR ask him would he be willing to use your score from one of the other exams this semester as a replacement?"

tried that too. yet another thing the cave trolls had a field day with.

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"I feel this thread should die until he gets back from Vegas with pictures. I wanna see some pr0n ... be the best post in this thread."

I felt the same way at some point yesterday, but for whatever reason this thread struck a chord and it's become rather entertaining. Can't wait to see what everyone will come up with while I'm gone! Yeah, I'll try to bring pics too

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"try to see it from his perspective for a minute. you're asking him to do extra work so you can go and have fun."

i've seen it from his perspective from day one. that's why i don't blame him for his actions, but it doesn't mean i can't be displeased. and without going into detail about addressing the rest of the post regarding changing the reservation dates, you'll just have to trust me when i say we've done everything possible and there's no way of changing it. it's either go and enjoy it or stay here and lose alllll that money.

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"You're just as bad as him asking his professor to count his next test double. ... I get breaks cut for me all the time, but I don't ask for them. I take what's given and try to appreciate it."

well aren't you just the model citizen.

9/14/2006 7:56:57 PM

Quote :

"haha, okay. hey, while i have your attention, can you grant me some of your god power? or can i type in the cheat code so conflicts never happen to me? isn't it like "iddqd" or something?"

it's not god power, it's personality.

first, i know nobody would ever book a trip for me without asking me when it was convenient for me to go.

second, i know i would never expect or plan for a professor to do something that is obviously against the rules.

third, i wouldn't have the slightest desire to go get ass-drunk and gamble just because i had turned 21.

fourth, if i absolutely had to make plans during exam time, i would have a proper lie lined up to get out of it. i wouldn't rely on the truth and human compassion.

9/14/2006 8:01:36 PM

i see. are you a Life Coach? apparently i could benefit from your omniscience.

9/14/2006 8:04:26 PM

sorry, even I can't fix stupid.

9/14/2006 8:15:44 PM

this must be a joke/hoax...like when someone posts pretending they got busted for plagiarism and they don't know what's wrong with cutting and pasting from the internet....

9/14/2006 8:58:56 PM

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"i was surprised myself so many people thought the professor should let him make it up for a fucking trip to vegas so he can get ass-drunk and gamble."

[that has been said several times in this thread]


Errm.... he's going there with his family. Somehow I think he's gonna be a bit more cautious about overdrinking/overspending. Sadly, it took nearly five pages for this to be pointed out.

Shame on you all.

9/15/2006 1:34:46 AM

I'm sure he would let you take the test early if you asked him....have you tried that yet?

9/15/2006 8:59:26 AM