I don't know if it works the same for english, but...

In math if you have a secondary math license and teach middle school math for 1 year, you get a middle school licensure added.

So if you do HS English, you might be able to teach a year at the middle school and have it added onto your license without having to take too many(if any) classes at all.

8/18/2006 7:16:34 PM

where do you teach staypuff?

8/18/2006 11:23:19 PM

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"the worst part about all of this is some of you might teach my kids someday that scares me"

It scares me you are thinking about having kids.

8/18/2006 11:30:09 PM

StayPuff, it's the same for English. I have a couple of friends that have obtained middle school language arts positions with their secondary English licensures. It was explained to us in Methods that you automatically have the additional license tacked on with the job. I'm not sure if it's immediate or after a year's tenure.

8/18/2006 11:33:25 PM

I was actually asking about ART art, not language arts...

Like drawing and painting art. Is the licensure for middle school art the same as the process for middle school english?

8/18/2006 11:37:37 PM

Byrn, it is after 1 year tenure.

Nash, I teach at Parkland HS in WS. I taught at East Wake when I was in Wake County.

I am pretty sure for art, you will have to take some methods classes and then the Praxis in Art

8/19/2006 5:51:39 AM

^ Mustang Prizzide! I substituted there once.

The US History and Civics EOCs were retooled last year, and it seems that most schools failed miserably. There's much, much more emphasis on the higher end of Bloom's taxonomy, which is great. It means a lot more work, but thinking skills is what social studies is supposed to be all about.

8/19/2006 9:01:26 PM

I'm teaching three different classes this semester and two (one that's yet another new one) next semester. My room is a mess, but at least I have my own room. It's going to be one hell of a challenge to do this without going crazy, especially considering I have to have six credit hours toward my licensure by June to be invited back for another year.

8/19/2006 11:19:27 PM

I'll stop whining about my situation now

8/20/2006 12:56:48 AM

moonman...what classes and where

Like I mentioned before. Find someone that is teaching one of the classes you are and just piggyback off of them.

Yeah the first semester SS scores were horrible at Western Guilford too. I think they improved greatly after the spring semester.

One of the things they are changing on the Math EOC is that they won't be giving out a formula sheet. Instead if the students need a certain formula then they will embed the formula into the problem. Only problem with that is knowing what formulas they will give students in problem and what they won't.

8/20/2006 7:56:07 AM

So how was the first day?

8/26/2006 10:19:17 AM

im not going to read 4 pages, but.....i have a friend that had to move to asheboro to teach, i think the market in nc in general isn't that great for teachers right now

8/26/2006 6:01:36 PM

First off, its no suprise that someone with such a loose grasp of life as yourself is trying to be a teacher. Those who can't do, teach.

Second off, I'm glad you havent made it into the system. The liberal NEA already controls the education system here and needs to be ended. I'm glad liberals like you cant get in and indoctrinate our children. Now, go ahead and troll me like you always do.

8/27/2006 2:09:54 PM

You're the one blatantly trolling, chief. Take that shit somewhere else.

8/27/2006 2:11:46 PM

I'm telling it like it is, welcome to the real world.

[Edited on August 27, 2006 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2006 2:12:50 PM

I just got approved to substitute teach in Wake County. Whopdedamnedoo.

Instead, I've taken a job as a nanny for two little boys making only slightly less per hour than I would as a substitute teacher -- and I don't have to hunt for a job every day and it'll be a heck of a lot more fun.

8/27/2006 2:24:00 PM

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"First off, its no suprise that someone with such a loose grasp of life as yourself is trying to be a teacher. Those who can't do, teach. Second off, I'm glad you havent made it into the system. The liberal NEA already controls the education system here and needs to be ended. I'm glad liberals like you cant get in and indoctrinate our children. Now, go ahead and troll me like you always do."

Way to read the thread.

I got a job. In fact I've been offered multiple jobs since this thread was made. Keep this crap in the SB.

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"So how was the first day?"

It went very well. Of course they're all angels on the first day, but I was really surprized at how polite most of the students were. I think some of them might be handfulls, but in a good way so long as I keep them engaged.

8/27/2006 3:25:32 PM

I thought that I wanted to teach, came real close to getting my certification. But then I started applying and no one called me back, I like you boonedocks applied to all 100 counties. I said fuck it, worked at a medical lab company for a bit then moved to Japan to teach english.

8/27/2006 8:43:45 PM

Quote :

"First off, its no suprise that someone with such a loose grasp of life as yourself is trying to be a teacher. Those who can't do, teach."

Those who cant teach, work.

8/27/2006 8:53:39 PM

Don't feed the troll.

8/27/2006 9:03:09 PM

i prefer
Those who can; do
Those who can do well; Teach


i had a GREAT first day.
now i just have to figure out what i'm gonna do the rest of the year.
but the more i plan the more great ideas i get. these kids are gonna hate me cuz there's so much stuff i want them to do.

8/27/2006 10:23:07 PM

First few days have gone well. We have already had 1 math teacher quit. Which means if they don't find someone new to hire, then I will be teaching 4 classes(and will be paid extra).

I have some really great kids compared to what I had last year. These kids are on the ball and for the most part really hard workers. I was very shocked to see them working so hard the entire period. They even begin working on the Warm Up as soon as the bell rings.

Randy ->

I just love these people that think they can be a better teacher than those who went to school and want to be a teacher.

8/29/2006 5:16:53 PM

I'm already having to deal with drama.

Because my school's failing NCLB in a huge way, I have county and school curriculum coordinators telling me what to do. They're telling me completely different things, and I'm accountable to both of them.

The county woman is cool, and is following state guidelines. The school woman is crazy, and is making zero sense to most of us in the department. In Civics, the state and county is telling us to spend 9 days on the entirety of NC Goal 1 (1.1-1.8), while my school's lady is telling us to spend 15 days on 1.1 only (how the hell am I supposed to spend 15 days on 13 colonies?). And she doesn't even tell us how to do this-- she just gives us a mishmash of silly transparencies and worksheets that aren't much help at all.

Of course my principal and department head adore this woman, and have told me to listen to her over the county and state. Apparently she's soon going to be telling me what to do with U.S. History, too.

I wouldn't mind the micromanaging so much if only it were competent micromanagement. At this rate, I can't see myself coming back to this school next year.

[Edited on September 11, 2006 at 12:07 AM. Reason : blog]

9/11/2006 12:07:02 AM

I'm looking to go straight to an MAT program right now. Anyone done that? I figure it'll give me that much more of an edge. My ultimate goal is to end up at a magnet school, then transition at some point to getting my PhD. I'd go for PhD right now, but no schools I want to go to offer enough as far as master's work in history.

9/11/2006 12:22:39 AM

I taught for a semester last year.. thought I wanted to go into it, but looking back on it, its just not for me... Teachers are very special people... I have nothing but the utmost respect for teachers because I look back on my experience and I cringe when I think of my disrespectful freshman in PRE-ALGEBRA!!!

9/11/2006 12:42:13 AM

So how is it going for everyone else?

Me??? I am always exhausted because I am staying up until 1 AM or later to make worksheets for the students or grading papers. The past 2 weeks I have had at least 1 student stay for tutoring.

I have already had more students stay for tutoring this year than I did all of last year combined.

9/21/2006 8:54:10 PM

I'm sending kids out right and left. I'm in a school that's about 80 percent minority, 80 percent free and reduced lunch -- very poor, lots of gang activity. The administration pretty much has a zero tolerance policy toward any mention of gang activity.

Anyway, I heard some kids in my class chanting "Four Block," which I had been told is some kind of gang in the area. I warned them twice, finally saying "The next person to say that word is out of here."

This girl looks me straight in the eye and says "Four. Block."

I basically ask her if she's crazy.

"That's two words. That ain't no one word. I thought you was a English teacher. You should know that."

"That's it. You're gone. I don't want to see your face again today."

That's on a daily basis. Open hostility, open defiance. Yesterday, a kid brought a huge knife to school. Two days ago, another had marijuana spread out on his desk, apparently checking his inventory in the middle of class.

9/21/2006 9:38:52 PM

teaching is fun.

(from what i've seen anyhow.)

[Edited on September 22, 2006 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ]

9/22/2006 12:02:33 AM

^^where do you teach?

9/22/2006 12:10:32 AM

^^^ you in Durham too

i'm fortunate that my students are 90% awesome. i have a few non-motivated kids who'd rather sleep through class or talk to their buddy or do other distruptive but non offensive things... I give out detentions but the kids like staying after with me... wtf. then after they serve one detention they hang out every day after school. which is fine - i give them jobs and/or they play with the ferret and other animals.

about 10% of them are failing after the first 3 weeks.

my school is over 60% minority and there are a lot of discpline problems (big fight yesterday) and most of em have no respect for teachers or their peers.

2 kids were running down the hall yesterday - one of em crashed into me knocking me over. didnt say sorry or excuse me.. but continued running down the hall. i asked him to stop 4 times. he swore at me twice and kept running. the other kid stopped and walked with me. he led me to the room where the other kid went into. i got his name and wrote him up and he's suspended. the kid had the nerve to come by later and try and argue with me. i told him exactly what i thought of him (in front of my class), reported it, now his punishment is doubled. my students clapped.


whats wrong with kids today.. whats wrong with parents these days.

9/22/2006 9:46:28 AM

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"whats wrong with kids today.."

No one holds them accountable.

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"whats wrong with parents these days."

Schools (and other places) give in when they hold their kids accountable.

I came from a fairly well off school, but there were plenty of problem children and invariably the worst were the ones that when the school issued "punishment" (as paltry as it was) the parents walked through the door, threatened a lawsuit and the kids got off the hook.

9/22/2006 10:00:28 AM

oh yea i have parents who corner me after school or at open house and demand that i give their child opportunities for extra credit....
when their kid is sleeping during class and refuses to participate in activities. i've started taking pictures of the sleepers and emailing them to their parents. that should shut the parents up and wake the kids up.

9/22/2006 10:18:08 AM

Nice. Better hope that some uptight parent with more money than brains doesn't sue you for taking unauthorized pictures of their kid though. Parents are crazy.

9/22/2006 12:10:02 PM

^ always possible but if the parent thinks their kid is an angel and star student its a nice wake up call.
i need to get a photo permission form signed. we make scrapbooks so its a good idea.


if you have a student who's on an athletic team - contact the coach. i have a bunch of football players and wrestlers and have gotten to know the coaches. i let them know of any problems and the kid immediately changes the behavior.

[Edited on September 22, 2006 at 12:50 PM. Reason : v]

9/22/2006 12:48:19 PM

My kids are angels. Seriously.

I'm in the "worst" school in Fayetteville, and my class is better behaved than I could have ever hoped. I have a couple sleepers, but I just make them stand up if it's a problem.

The main thing is class size (~20 kids). Thank you school improvement plan

9/24/2006 5:58:07 PM

I have an interview today for a teaching assistant job...I REALLY hope I get the job! It would be perfect for me since I am going back and getting my licensure this coming year. Any helpful hints on skills to emphasize?
Thanks!!

9/27/2006 12:38:15 PM

bump

3/14/2007 4:11:51 PM

Is anyone familiar with the lateral entry procedures? I've always said that I didn't want to teach, but now I'm thinking about doing it for a few years before I get my master's. My mom is an elementary ed teacher and she's trying to help me out; she's specifically advised me to go ahead and take the Praxis II subject exams.

This thread is making it seem like I'm going to have trouble getting a job, though, since licensed teachers have trouble.

3/14/2007 4:15:15 PM

Lateral entry, you have several options. I was teaching in Johnston county so I could go thru ECU to take the summer courses, then 1 class both semesters at night. Then after that, take the Praxis 2 exam. I got hired before I took all this because I was a math teacher and everyone needs them. Elementary will be a lot tougher.

I got out of it after a year because I hated it. If you are not 100% sure you want to teach and you are just doing it, then you will hate it, you will hate your life and not ever want to go back in the mornings. I PROMISE! It takes a special person to be a teacher. (well, a good/devoted one at least)

3/14/2007 4:19:20 PM

I've always wanted to be an English teacher like the one that I had for all four years of high school, but he had the advanced/AP classes so he was free to be a little more unorthodox and had better students to work with.

I guess I'll look into lateral entry but be prepared to do something else.

3/14/2007 4:24:32 PM

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"I've always wanted to be an English teacher like the one that I had for all four years of high school, but he had the advanced/AP classes so he was free to be a little more unorthodox and had better students to work with."

This was my frame of mind when I first started. I wanted to be exactly like my Calculus teacher in HS. But the problem is, most new teachers start with the freshmen and/or the lowest level students. If you read back in the thread at my posts, you can see that I was teaching Pre-Algebra to them and they were the kids that didn't want to be in school at all. They were horrid and I hated it. If you are sure you want to teach, then go for it (I'm not trying to talk you out of it), but it's not fair to you nor the kids if you start and hate it and it shows.

3/14/2007 4:40:38 PM

You're a teacher? I didn't know that. I need to start learning about people at poker. haha

3/14/2007 4:53:32 PM

I used to be one. Not anymore Wasn't for me

3/14/2007 4:57:33 PM

I changed majors for a reason, this thread says why.

3/14/2007 4:57:10 PM

i posted this in old school:

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"Qualified American teachers would do well (financially) to go and teach in other countries. Not only would you get a lot more ($30-50+K tax free), but you will also get other benefits, such as fully furnished free housing, travel allowance (cash or tickets), health insurance, free education for children, etc. (so basically that's equivalent to $60-100K salary in the US) Not to mention the experience of living in a different country. I know teachers (in the Middle East) who make $50,000."

And remember, that $50,000 in the pocket.

3/14/2007 6:16:45 PM

It takes a special person to teach these days.

3/14/2007 8:35:58 PM

This is my 4th year teaching, and I really like it. However, I am looking at getting a masters in school administration to help improve my income. I hate that I have to do this, but the money would be better.

3/14/2007 8:51:19 PM

I'm in my 5th year teaching. I love my job. I encourage anyone with a passion who thinks they may be good to try it. It is important to find your age level. The same people who love middle school may hate elementary school or high school, and vice versa.

I don't ever want to go into administration. I love being in the classroom where I can have a real impact. I may get a Master's in International Relations later, because the pay will increase regardless of what field your Master's is in. It's more likely that I will get my JD in about three years, though, since I have a friend who is asking me to join his law practice.

3/15/2007 10:52:33 AM

I think that you make a very good point about finding the right age group for you. I know more than a few teachers who were miserable their first few years until they found their niche age group. Now they are just as enthusiastic about teaching as they were before they started.

Oh and Im getting my Masters in IR in sweden at the moment, its a blast.

3/15/2007 11:32:25 AM

yes finding your right age is very critical.

my ideal age is 16+

currently teaching first year university students. (taught middle and high school for 3 years)

3/15/2007 11:44:38 AM