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ssclark
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youre.... a special kind of crazy. the correct answer is neither are ok or worse than the other, sociopath.

7/12/2016 10:03:06 PM

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sociopath, eh?

7/12/2016 10:10:39 PM

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/07/13/nba-commissioner-players-are-free-to-use-celebrity-to-express-political-views/?hpid=hp_regional-hp-cards_rhp-card-sports%3Ahomepage%2Fcard

7/13/2016 8:54:59 AM

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Naturally the SJWs can't even fathom how such an "inclusive" movement narrative like #BLM could be offensive to police.

In fact, something being "offensive" to a group outside of your victim hierarchy doesn't even compute for you, does it? After all, how could victims offend non-victims? In your world, actual equality doesn't exist, and there is a pecking order for "being offended".

To understand why cops would be pissed requires you to see #BLM for what it really is, which won't happen when you are so busy hash-tagging and virtue-signaling with your selfie sticks in a self-righteous echo-chamber (aka SJW "activism".

[Edited on July 13, 2016 at 1:28 PM. Reason : .]

7/13/2016 1:27:43 PM

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There isn't an original message to "distort". #BLM isn't about "inclusiveness" on any level, it's about trying to maximize the effect of viral outrage-inducing anecdote to reinforce an increasingly shaky narrative the statistics simply do not support. It's a fulltime job trying to portray 2016 America as racist, naturally anytime a victim of police brutality looks useful, you better believe the media will fan the fabricated flames of "racial oppression" until the literal flames of riots burn down the cities.

They've gotten so desperate that even justified police killings are exaggerated, misrepresented, and used to propogate this delusion. Not that it's surprising to see liberals use dead black men as political tools

7/13/2016 1:32:38 PM

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7/13/2016 1:58:17 PM

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Whenever the prejudices and illusions of politicians are confirmed by an individual incident, the incident is treated as representative.

When those prejudices and illusions are contradicted, the incident is considered an aberration... and treating it as representative is deemed hateful.

#BlackLivesMatter and the mainstream media personify this rule well. When a "movement" deliberately ignores statistics and soley relies on anecdote, you should realize you're protesting a narrative, not reality. This particular narrative demonizes police, worsens racial tension, division, and violence (all under the guise of activism and justice).

7/13/2016 2:27:59 PM

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So are the SJW bots claiming the cops shouldn't keep the outrage lynch mob in check? I mean eventually the SJWs protestors will get bored taking selfies and patting themselves on the back. It's mob mentality... Naturally they will keep escalating the situation inch by inch, then when they test an area of zero tolerance, like crossing the line established for a peaceful protest, cops arrest them.

It's a lot like Johnathan Butler walking into the Mizzou president's car to claim he was "hit". Sometimes when there is nothing to protest you have to invent reasons to be a "victim". Liberals have lots of practice at that though.

7/13/2016 2:48:35 PM

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Because team SJW tends to take anecdotal cases like these and run with them... to the point where there isn't a rational discussion on police brutality or police accountability, but instead a divisive racial aspect that is more focused on silencing people rather than conversing with them.

Come on SJWs! Lets go write "BLACK LIVES MATTER" on a sign, grab your selfie-stick, lets go #Protest and scream at a bunch of cops because 0.001% of them make mistakes (and due process, the law, etc, are all racist).

Don't question my TWW journalist integrity!!!

7/13/2016 3:01:59 PM

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At the root of the hashtag semantics argument is violent black crime.

If you want to apply the race filter to police brutality, then you have to apply it to both sides of the same coin. To deliberately turn a blind eye to the crime disparity, while screaming "racism" about the brutality disparity (as #BLM AND our Potus do For political leverage) is dishonest, divisive, and despicable.

Thats why #BLM is divisive, not because of the racially exclusive wording alone, but because it splits America in two. Not necessarily white vs black as much as narrative vs fact.

7/13/2016 5:26:50 PM

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Lol with the fucking alliterative lists. He tries so hard.

7/13/2016 5:36:19 PM

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Naturally the SJWs can't even fathom how such an "inclusive" movement narrative like #BLM could be offensive to police.

In fact, something being "offensive" to a group outside of your victim hierarchy doesn't even compute for you, does it? After all, how could victims offend non-victims? In your world, actual equality doesn't exist, and there is a pecking order for "being offended".

To understand why cops would be pissed requires you to see #BLM for what it really is, which won't happen when you are so busy hash-tagging and virtue-signaling with your selfie sticks in a self-righteous echo-chamber (aka SJW "activism".

7/13/2016 7:19:22 PM

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""A petition seeking to classify the civil rights organization Black Lives Matter as a terrorist outfit has exceeded 100,000 signatures on the White House’s petition center, We the People.

While many citizens hope to classify the decentralized civil rights group as a terrorist organization, both the Ku Klux Klan and Stormfront have avoided similar labels..."

Have always wondered what it would be like to live in a developed country... Still wondering what it is like...!

?#?USAdevelopedcountrymyass? ?#?wondering?"

7/13/2016 10:47:55 PM

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when you are not satisfied with murdering an unarmed teen, shoot him 2 more times as he lays dying on the ground several feet away from you and completely incapable of harming you in any way.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/13/body-camera-footage-released-dylan-noble-police-shooting

hell yeah murica!

7/14/2016 12:54:04 AM

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[with a taser]

10-min dashcam video
https://www.facebook.com/fox26houston/videos/10154567948265348/

Video shot by victim
https://www.facebook.com/theinterceptflm/videos/1040280302687689/

A SHOT TO THE HEART
Tased in the Chest for 23 Seconds, Dead for 8 Minutes, Now Facing a Lifetime of Recovery

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/tased-in-the-chest-for-23-seconds-dead-for-8-minutes-now-facing-a-lifetime-of-recovery/

7/14/2016 1:17:57 AM

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http://www.startribune.com/apnewsbreak-half-of-arrestees-where-castile-died-are-black/386667881/

Castile's 52 times being pulled over for minor traffic issues was reported, but against this context, definitely seems like some shenanigans going on.

Then seeing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmMQimrT8qk

It should make more sense why blacks are so outraged, as Scott says, from the "loss of dignity".

7/14/2016 1:18:11 AM

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easy explanation...black people in St. Anthony speed more and have more broken tail lights than white people in St. Anthony.

7/14/2016 9:44:53 AM

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Telling black people what to say and do to maybe not get shot during a traffic stop is analogous to telling a woman how to dress so as not to get raped.

Confirm or deny.

7/14/2016 9:58:55 AM

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Quote :
"when you are not satisfied with murdering an unarmed teen, shoot him 2 more times as he lays dying on the ground several feet away from you and completely incapable of harming you in any way.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/13/body-camera-footage-released-dylan-noble-police-shooting"


Just watched the video, this guy was trying to committ suicide, plus he looked kinda hispanic too.

7/14/2016 10:09:28 AM

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What does SJW stand for?

7/14/2016 10:36:27 AM

dtownral
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St John's Wort

7/14/2016 10:37:59 AM

afripino
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slutty jezebel whore

7/14/2016 10:42:46 AM

beatsunc
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some jesus wanker

7/14/2016 10:55:39 AM

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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/14/485999643/bodycam-video-shows-police-shooting-of-unarmed-19-year-old-in-fresno

Suicide by cop? Also does anyone know why the cops had their guns drawn and pointed while they were still pulling him over? Did something concerning come back over the radio? Was he evading because he didn't immediately pull over?

[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 1:56 PM. Reason : ]

7/14/2016 1:51:09 PM

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" Police said that they had pulled him over as they were investigating reports of a man walking around with a rifle"

7/14/2016 2:49:03 PM

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Thx...figured it had to be something. I just heard the audio in the beginning talking about a truck peeling off so figured that was why they were pulling him.

7/14/2016 2:58:34 PM

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Tha fuck?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/atlanta-killed-driver-no-idea-car-article-1.2711661

7/14/2016 5:37:06 PM

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from ^

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"Burns admitted he didn't know who was inside the car when he opened fire, but insisted he pulled his weapon because the car was racing toward him and he feared for his life.

“I shot at the car who was trying to run me over and kill me,” he told investigators days after the shooting.

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"But police officials rejected Burns’ claims, and instead said Rogers was trying to drive away from the cop, not toward him. Pickard said evidence, including dash cam videos, showed there was no obvious threat to Burns."


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"“You did not have reasonable suspicion that the driver of the vehicle engaged in, or was about to engage in, criminal activity,” Atlanta Police Chief George N. Turner wrote in a memo. “Yet rather than allow the driver to drive past you, you exited your vehicle and ultimately prevented the driver from driving away through the use of deadly force.”

Burns was fired on July 1 for using excessive force. Possible criminal charges could come after the state investigation."


[Edited on July 14, 2016 at 6:40 PM. Reason : i mean, jesus christ that's awful]

7/14/2016 6:40:19 PM

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Looks like he's gonna get what's coming to him though and has already been fired, this is one instance of police actually distancing themselves from shitty policing instead of shielding it.

7/14/2016 7:13:02 PM

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"Telling black people what to say and do to maybe not get shot during a traffic stop is analogous to telling a woman how to dress so as not to get raped.

Confirm or deny."


Telling a woman how to dress so as not to get raped is analogous to telling people to hide their valuables at the beach so they don't get stolen.

Confirm or deny

7/14/2016 7:15:16 PM

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If they would start firing bad cops I would be happy with that.

I mean who else gets to go to work, violate policies, cover up evidence of wrongdoing, bring embarrassment to their organization, then continue to get paid during months and years of investigation. Every corporation I have ever worked for would fire you for one fuck up....and none of those jobs involved threatening people or shoving a loaded gun in peoples faces.

In many of these cases the officer might not be criminally liable but could easily be fired for policy violations. Instead they get no consequences at all.

7/14/2016 9:27:34 PM

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Lots of public sector union job. Those union contracts and things like the police bill of rights adopted by many places are a big part of the problem. They negotiated themselves out of accountability.

7/14/2016 9:36:10 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2qgwx4yrO4

More false narrative SJW echo chamber liberal media B.S.

he should have just reached for his wallet and given them his ID to begin with. Also, why was he resisting after they tazed him? #ALM

7/15/2016 11:33:17 AM

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"Lots of public sector union job. Those union contracts and things like the police bill of rights adopted by many places are a big part of the problem. They negotiated themselves out of accountability."


The federal govt could easily trump that if they wanted to. It must not be a priority. FBI should investigate any disputed police shooting and should be sent from a different office than the one the local PD works with. If the cops try to lie to them they get prison time just for that. If they can lock up Martha Stewart for lying to the FBI it should not be that hard to prosecute an officer of the law.

7/15/2016 11:44:55 AM

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I was going about 63 in a 55 and passed a parked sheriff on 401 a few days ago. I kept watching to see if he was going to pull out and get me, and then I started thinking to myself, shit, what if he pulls me over and I make some kind of wrong move and get shot.

Never would that thought have crossed my mind 3 or 4 years ago.

And then when it was obvious he was after bigger fish, I started really thinking about black motorists, and what must go through their heads with any type of minor traffic violation pull-over.

7/15/2016 11:45:41 AM

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I saw a bunch of news stories about plane crashes. When I was flying last week I thought to myself, shit this thing could crash.

I would have never thought that before.

And what if I lived in Malaysia? I can only imagine how they feel on a plane.

Anecdote =/= representative
Statistics > Narrative

7/15/2016 12:27:26 PM

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Social Justice Warriors are an interesting breed, I've been studying them in their natural habitat on TWW for quite sometime. First, to distinguish, there is a difference between "Liberal" and "SJW". Allow me to share some insights I have learned:

There are several distinct characteristics to a SJW, the first one is a propensity to call anyone that disagrees a racist/bigot/sexist/homophobe/xenophobe/islamaphobe. This is the most important defense mechanism of their echo-chamber, they use it to protect their "safe space" from common sense and reality. If someone has a thought against a narrative, we don't debate them, we simply silence them. You will see many of the SJWs here do this, rather than address each post as an idea or thought, they simply attempt to attack the character of who said it.

The 2nd trait of each SJW is an unmerited sense of smugness, or condescending arrogance, of unwarranted morale superiority. After all, in their made up world they are defending "victims" from evil "racist/sexist/bigot/homophobes" so they deserve to pat themselves on the back.

7/15/2016 12:28:41 PM

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You're trying to apply logic and reasoning to liberalism's concept of an "infallible victim". A white person shot a black person, so society is racist. That is the narrative and the facts around this incident don't matter to them.

7/15/2016 12:29:05 PM

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Democrats selectively commenting on things that further their politics? No Way

Who cares if the thug was in a gang, on drugs, and fought a cop? HE WAS BLACK, and the COP WAS WHITE! It's RACIST!

#ISTANDWITHTHENARRATIVE

I am so outraged

7/15/2016 12:41:29 PM

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Quote :
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Anecdote =/= representative
Statistics > Narrative
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So that may be the case in some of the recent shootings. What do you think about black men being pulled over for driving nice cars, being questioned for merely being in "nice" (predominately white) neighborhoods, or being pulled over supposedly because they "match a description"

There are not statistics on this if no further action is taken- a ticket being written or arrest being made,

Do you believe that this happens? Do you believe that it happens significantly more to black people than white people?

If you do believe that it happens, is there anything wrong with it?

7/15/2016 12:47:47 PM

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Well, you could have a productive discussion about police brutality and policy changes, but I think it is way more productive to have a divisive racial aspect to it.

Even if more white people get shot by cops every year, even if black people commit much more violent crime per year despite only being 12% of the population, I think we should all base our opinion on a few viral videos and act like it is representative of reality. Also George Soros will pay you to protest if you are on the fence.

7/15/2016 12:54:19 PM

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There isn't anything productive about a hashtag that accuses society of not caring about black lives, especially when it is only used to defend black lives when white cops pull the trigger, especially when it is primarily used to defend criminals in the wrong. It isn't productive or effective, it's just loud and divisive. It is furthering a false narrative of "us vs them".

The national conversation has consisted of people pointlessly arguing about "All Lives" vs "Black Lives" which is absolutely ludicrous because nobody disagrees with "Black Lives matter" or "All lives matter".

Funny that nobody disagrees that racial profiling and brutality by cops needs to be stopped, yet people are arguing over nothing. Even Bernie Sanders (prob the best candidate to fix those issues) gets derailed at his rallies... but that's because George Soros is funding BLM protests and is backing Hilary Clinton.

7/15/2016 12:57:09 PM

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Police brutality is a societal issue. Putting a race lens on it to further a victim narrative is just how liberalism causes division and shifts blame from government to an abstract scapegoat.

A higher number of black people getting killed by cops is not a "race problem" any more so than black people committing more crime is a "race problem" or black people having less wealth is a "race problem" or fatherless black families is a "race problem". Funny how the race filter only applies to the "activists" when a white cop kills a black person because that supports the "You're a victim, fuck tha police, personal choices don't matter" nonsense that only perpetuates the actual root causes.

If you're going to use the race filter looking at a problem you have to use it the entire time for all relevant factors, you can’t just toggle it on and off where convenient like liberals do to further these victim narratives. Doing so is deliberately ignorant and does more harm than good.

7/15/2016 12:57:38 PM

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I'm not entirely sure if you're serious or not. But that's exactly what I was trying, and failing, to say in the other thread.

And if you're not being serious well.... I believe ^

"Not blaming the victim" has somehow been twisted and mutated into no one taking personal responsibility for any of their actions


I think the over abundance of buzzwords in social politics is obnoxious as fuck tho






[Edited on July 15, 2016 at 1:11 PM. Reason : Abby it's the activists bit.... That's where I realized it wasn't real.. Till then I had no idea]

7/15/2016 1:03:03 PM

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To be fair, part of the blame is on the nature of clickbait media. Racial tension, outrageous viral videos, it gets clicks... unfortunately this leads to an over-representation of extremely rare cases of police brutality. This itself isn't the problem though...

The problem is when a divisive racial element is deliberately exaggerated or even fabricated, and even worse, when it is perpetuated and validated by liberal politicians like the divider-in-chief. Again, I get that liberals have to keep perpetuating this narrative that all black people are victims and 2016 America is racist, it's just sad that all the brain-dead SJWs and other lowest common denominators actually believe these extremely rare cases are:

1. Cause for riots or protests
2. Representative of police or society
3. Proof of racism

If you actually account for violent crime, black people are shot less by cops than white people, but naturally, these facts and statistics ARE RACIST, and if you try to have a reasonable discussion about this with SJWs they don't have a leg to stand on

7/15/2016 1:06:45 PM

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lol, i bet this is confusing a lot of people

7/15/2016 1:08:32 PM

ssclark
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^ dude I feel like I'm having a stroke.... I don't check few enough to realize when a meme has started .... so I read things thinking I've see. Them before only to realize I have


Makes me sad

7/15/2016 1:10:42 PM

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Haha.

And btw, that plane crash analogy is awful, even by my standards.

7/15/2016 1:38:22 PM

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But there is still no way I’ll vote for Hillary.

I won’t vote for her even if she stops shaking down rich right-wing Republicans for donations. I won’t vote for her even if she adopts Bernie’s platform. I won’t vote for her even if she names Bernie her vice president.

I won’t even vote for her even if Bernie invites me to spend the summer with him and Jane in Vermont and begs me, too.

#NeverHillary. That’s me.

And I’m not alone: There are millions of us.

Many progressives have told me they are baffled by my stance. Trump is a threat to democracy, decency, peace and the economy. He acts and talks like a nut. Why not suck it up and vote for Hillary? She’s experienced, steady and presentable. Unlike Trump, she understands the issues. Plus: first woman president! That’s 225 years overdue!

Nope. Not voting for her. As I said, I am #NeverHillary and never means never.

Look, a vote is an endorsement. A vote tells a candidate: “I mostly agree with what you say and what you have done.”

I agree with nothing Hillary Rodham Clinton has done, ever.

Most egregiously, she voted to invade Iraq. At the time, everyone knew there were no WMDs. She knew. More than a million Iraqis are dead because of that war of choice, a war no one but especially no Democrat should have supported. I will not, cannot, betray those dead. Casting a vote for Hillary says: “I love that a million Iraqis got murdered.” Or, at minimum it says: “I’m cool with it.”

Well, I’m not.

For me, that’s enough. What Clinton did was monstrous. She should be in prison for life.

You need more? Really?

Okay, here’s more.

Running a close second behind Iraq as my reason I am #NeverHillary was Hillary’s vote to invade Afghanistan. This was another enormous mistake and resulted in an unjustified, illegal fiasco that left hundreds of thousands of innocents maimed or dead. Also, as secretary of state, she constantly encouraged Obama to arm and fund crazy Islamist insurgencies in Libya and Syria, reducing two modern countries to failed states.

Sorry, I can’t let that go.

Voting for a politician also sends another message: “I agree with what you promise to do.”

There is zero indication that Hillary wouldn’t continue her every-war-a-good-war philosophy were she to become president.

She’s a hawk.

Unlike even Trump, she has never questioned the usefulness, legality or ethics of use of force as America’s go-to approach to foreign policy.

And I refuse to throw good blood after bad.

I believe Hillary is sleazy — a cheater and a liar. I can’t forget how she willfully misrepresented her own take on the minimum wage: She wants $12/hour, but since Bernie’s $15/hour is more popular, she claimed she wanted $15/hour too, but it would be up to the states and cities. When pressed, she conceded she’d “like” $15/hour, but wouldn’t lift a finger to make it happen federally.

Incredibly, she still does this.

Then there’s her lie about the auto bailout. Fact checkers call her claim that Bernie voted against it untrue; he voted against bailouts for Wall Street, some of which was attached to aid for automobile companies.

Despite being called on this whopper, she still uses it on the campaign trail.

The primary fight against Bernie saw Hillary deploy tactics that went way beyond political hardball. Her allies in the Democratic National Committee schemed to deny Bernie media coverage or a decent debate schedule. They rigged the superdelegate process. They made sure votes and caucusgoers weren’t counted and that voter registrations in Bernie strongholds mysteriously disappeared. Can’t let that go.

I am highly sympathetic with the argument that we need, and that women and girls deserve, to see a woman in the White House. We do; they do. If Hillary Clinton were merely a flawed candidate, the woman thing would be enough for me.

But Hillary is not merely flawed. She is a monster and a dangerous one. She is a mass murderer. And she is a warmonger.

The fact that Hillary wears bright-colored Doctor Evil suits and has a silly laugh and twinkly eyes and seems kinda smart can’t change the fact she has never voted against a war, or apologized for voting for one, or promised not to start any new ones. Her resume can’t cover up for her record: We’re talking zero sponsorships or votes for a major anti-poverty proposal, and only one vote against a job-killing free trade agreement.

I don’t vote for monsters.

Let Hillary or Trump destroy the world without the endorsement that would be my vote.

7/15/2016 2:04:04 PM

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so I am almost done with an actual JCE bot

I apologize in advance

he's a little rough around the edges... but he's learning

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"Shit. How dare an off duty cop defends themselves after an angry screaming man pulls out an icepick, and starts kicking and punching his car? How traumatic this must have been for the criminal. All he wanted to do is be outraged and call everyone else racist as I spam links in the echo chamber. #IStandWithMoron The only use for telling others to check their privilege is for leftist SJWs to silence others, it allows them to virtue signal from their high horse, and place all the blame for any racial disparity on 2016 white people. It's just like the #BLM, and Mizzo"


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"But who cares if it is statistically insignificant, since when does that matter to the liberal media when they fabricate narratives and race-bait, and since when does that matter to the liberal media when they fabricate narratives and race-bait, and since when does that matter to the liberal media when they fabricate narratives and race-bait, and since when does that matter to me, a gullible bleeding heart SJW, all I want to do is break another man's car and threaten them with an ice pick, but some 2nd amendment gun nut decided to terrorize this poor victim his his assault pistol... If onl"


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"Happens, who cares? If a thug attacks a cop and dies... who cares? The only reason this is even on the news is because its white cop on black suspect. Black Lives Matter, only when a white cop pulls the trigger...Or when we can use it for political gain (George Soros/Hilary Clinton). How dare they arrest people breaking the law and blocking a highway! Don't they realize that a police officer, as one would expect statistically, accidentally killed someone unjustly????. Not just that though, the victim was BLACK and this is an election year! Come on SJWs! Lets go write BLACK LIVES MATTER"

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