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aimorris
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god damn you Bob Bradley

5/11/2010 2:06:00 PM

McWinger03
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no charlie davies, fucking horse shit

5/11/2010 2:06:08 PM

aimorris
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kljestan/rogers

really?


I know they won't make the final roster but it's such a fucking waste of a spot

5/11/2010 2:15:40 PM

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does this mean davies is officially not representing the US in SA?

5/11/2010 2:17:55 PM

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GOALKEEPERS (3): Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Tim Howard (Everton), Marcus Hahnemann (Wolverhampton)

DEFENDERS (9): Carlos Bocanegra (Rennes), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover), Jay DeMerit (Watford), Clarence Goodson (IK Start), Chad Marshall (Columbus Crew), Oguchi Onyewu (AC Milan), Heath Pearce (FC Dallas), Jonathan Spector (West Ham United)

MIDFIELDERS (12): DaMarcus Beasley (Rangers), Alejandro Bedoya (Örebro), Michael Bradley (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo), Clint Dempsey (Fulham), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Maurice Edu (Rangers), Benny Feilhaber (Aarhus), Stuart Holden (Bolton), Sacha Kljestan (Chivas USA), Robbie Rogers (Columbus Crew), José Torres (Pachuca)

FORWARDS (6): Jozy Altidore (Villarreal), Edson Buddle (Los Angeles Galaxy), Brian Ching (Houston Dynamo), Robbie Findley (Real Salt Lake), Herculez Gomez (Puebla), Eddie Johnson (Aris Thessaloniki)

5/11/2010 2:18:33 PM

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same with hurculez gomez and edson buddle, those guys have never even played with the team. what is the point.

the things davies would do for morale alone would be worth his inclusion in the roster. i hope bradley gets fired after this world cup. he's a real shit head

5/11/2010 2:18:35 PM

aimorris
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yeah

5/11/2010 2:18:42 PM

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my first impression is that it's a shit roster, and the forwards are atrocious

5/11/2010 2:19:30 PM

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Yeh this blows. I would have picked one of the forwards where there was a 99% chance he wouldn't be one of the final four and put Davies in his place. With all of that being said, who know how healthy he really is? We aren't the doctors. He did suffer a pretty bad injury. As a fan it is easy to say he belongs.

btw, is there a FIFA rule that only 30 can go to a pre-World Cup camp? Why couldn't they take him and have a 31 man camp?

5/11/2010 2:19:58 PM

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Robbie Findley?.....

well here we go, Steve Sampson Part 2


gd....damarcus beasley made the team....why cant this retard just go away?

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 2:22 PM. Reason : d]

5/11/2010 2:21:35 PM

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Apparently Bradley's saying Sochaux wasn't giving a medical release...

which is just trying to place blame somewhere other than himself for the call. I don't have a problem with Davies not being on the roster if he's not healthy, but how the hell can Bradley be in a position to make that call right now? Why didn't he just call him in and give him a look?



As for the other forwards, I don't have a problem with Buddle because he's been killing it lately with Donovan and the Galaxy so at least he has a relationship with our best player.

5/11/2010 2:22:11 PM

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"same with hurculez gomez and edson buddle, those guys have never even played with the team. what is the point."


I think they have played in the past with the national team, but not in a WCQ. With all of that being said, Pablo Mastroeni didn't play in a single WCQ leading up to 2002. Then Armas went down and Mastroeni had a pretty solid World Cup for the USA. Maybe our forwards can catch lightning in a bottle too. I hope so!

5/11/2010 2:24:37 PM

aimorris
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Marshall, Pearce, Bedoya, Kljestan, Rogers, Johnson, Findley

are my picks for being left out

5/11/2010 2:24:53 PM

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whatever happened to jermaine jones?

5/11/2010 2:29:06 PM

Big4Country
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^Didn't he suffer some sort of bad knee injury right after he said he would like to play for the USA?

5/11/2010 2:29:58 PM

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i think he never got totally healthy, he was having problems with his knee or something

having maurice edu back will be really good i think. he can play defensive mid instead of clark or even defense if we need him to.

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 2:31 PM. Reason : as]

5/11/2010 2:29:59 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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dude pulled a hargreaves

5/11/2010 2:30:05 PM

amac884
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sky sports just told me beasley in leaving rangers...will he grace the mls with his presence

5/11/2010 2:31:40 PM

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So does anyone know if there is a FIFA rule about camp roster size?

5/11/2010 2:33:16 PM

amac884
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is marvell wynne ever gonna turn out?


also, NEEDS MORE MARCUS TRACY

5/11/2010 2:34:03 PM

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I'm hearing Beasley to Charleston Battery, will keep TWW up to date.

5/11/2010 2:34:17 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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as long as he can grace his way off this world cup squad i could care less where he goes

5/11/2010 2:34:35 PM

Big4Country
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LOL! Maybe he could join my rec team!

5/11/2010 2:35:00 PM

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totti and toni left off italy...ronaldinho left off brazil...and we have eddie johnson on our squad

5/11/2010 2:39:35 PM

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hahaa i know....fuck id take an adriano too. hell i would take maldini right now too

5/11/2010 2:40:28 PM

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and nesta

5/11/2010 2:41:19 PM

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"Midfielder DaMarcus Beasley, a veteran of the 2002 and 2006 World Cup teams, was selected despite not starting for Glasgow Rangers since March 9."



had davies somehow lost his legs in that accident, i still wouldve rather had him than beasley...

5/11/2010 2:41:49 PM

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"So does anyone know if there is a FIFA rule about camp roster size?"


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"Portugal, which will try to grind its way through the Group G "group of death," announced its preliminary roster Monday night. Since it counts only 24 players when 30 were allowed, it isn't far removed from the final roster of 23, with only Real Madrid central defender Pepe -- who is often used as a holding midfielder for Portugal -- questionable because of a knee ligament injury. If Pepe returns in time, it is believed that either Ricardo Costa or Jose Castro, both central defenders, will be cut."


just came across that


gilberto silva is still playing??? vagner love is pissed!

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2010 2:43:50 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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damn i forgot about vagner love. doesnt grafite suck now too?

5/11/2010 2:51:01 PM

amac884
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i guess he's been playing well in germany

5/11/2010 2:57:08 PM

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ehh, im pretty sure he hasnt been that great this year

ok just looked it up, he has 2 caps and less goals in the bundesliga than berbatov had in the premier league



yeah brazil shouldve taken Adriano and not Grafite...and im glad they didnt take ronaldinho. i hate him

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 3:05 PM. Reason : f]

5/11/2010 3:00:36 PM

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i didnt realize that bob didn't include conor casey in the 30 man roster. not that i disagree, but why would he leave off his favorite hard-working striker?

5/11/2010 3:02:17 PM

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I can't read this thread anymore. It just makes me

Why oh why does bradley have a love affair with Beasley? Why the fuck wouldn't he throw Davies on the squad "just in case"? Ching and Johnson have proven their worthlessness time and time again on the international level.

At least our central mid seems pretty solid.

5/11/2010 3:04:47 PM

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^^^ maybe he was hurt...he was the leading goal scorer in germany last year

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 3:05 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2010 3:05:31 PM

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no he wasnt hurt. i remember him playing in the champions league against united and doing nothing. and they were talking about him back then as not being in form. and he only scored 11 goals in 30ish games...as a brazilian striker that is garbage. adriano and vagner love both have a greater goal:game ratio and they also play together on the same team...that seems like a perfect setup to take them both....

5/11/2010 3:09:10 PM

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Since there's a good chance Dempsey plays as a withdrawn forward, we're missing back-up right wingers and if Holden is still injured, the depth chart is Feilhaber/Torres and.... that's about it. So he's just looking about every winger-type option we have to get one more. I honestly don't know much about Bedoya... is he a winger?

I'm very comfortable with our midfield though - Donovan-Edu-Dempsey-Bradley-Holden is solid as hell (adding Dempsey as the attacking mid since he won't really be a real striker)

5/11/2010 3:13:11 PM

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looking at the videos of bedoya, it looks like hes playing right wing or attacking mid. looks like he has decent pace and good ball control, but doesnt really seem any better than robbie rogers to me.

5/11/2010 3:22:36 PM

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FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!1!!!!11!!!!! Bob

also ... The French can not be trusted.

"In the end of it, we also had information from his club whereby he had hadn't been given full medical clearance and therefor was not given full release to join the camp,'' Bradley said. "So when we put that together with everything we just felt that right now, Charlie, it's in his best interest to continue his rehab and continue so that he can get back to level that he was playing last year before the accident."

[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 4:46 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2010 4:39:56 PM

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"Robbie Findley?.....

well here we go, Steve Sampson Part 2"


Quote :
"Robbie Findley?.....

well here we go, Steve Sampson Part 2"


Quote :
"Robbie Findley?.....

well here we go, Steve Sampson Part 2"


Quote :
"Robbie Findley?.....

well here we go, Steve Sampson Part 2"


Quote :
"Robbie Findley?.....

well here we go, Steve Sampson Part 2"



FUCK YOU BOB BRADLEY.

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE BOW OUT OF THE GROUP STAGE SO I CAN FUCKING HATE YOUR ASS ON A LEVEL PREVIOUSLY RESERVED FOR STEVE SAMPSON. ROBBIE FUCKING FINDLEY? THAT GUY IS A NO TALENT CHARLIE DAVIES WANNABE. SO BAD THAT HE'LL PROBABLY TRY TO STEAL CD'S NUMBER 9 FOR THE WORLD CUP. FUCK ROBBIE FINDLEY. FUCK THE FRENCH. BUT MOST OF ALL, FUCK YOU.

FUCK YOU BOB BRADLEY.


Charlie Davies 9

5/11/2010 5:06:49 PM

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u all mad?

5/11/2010 5:38:09 PM

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^All I gotta say Gareth Barry made the provisional squad for England and the dude doesn't have an ankle. Davies should have had a shot.

YEAH I'M MAD.

5/11/2010 9:44:52 PM

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Maybe they wanted to make sure he didn't hurt it worse so that he will be ready for next years Gold Cup?

5/12/2010 12:16:06 PM

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Didn't see this posted anywhere...good read on Adu

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"American soccer's million-dollar baby saw his World Cup dream extinguished on Tuesday, a full month before the sport's greatest showpiece has even begun.

Based on how Freddy Adu's career has faltered in recent years, it was no shock that he was left off the United States' preliminary World Cup roster, ensuring him a summer spent in front of a television screen instead of packed stadiums in South Africa.

Yet given the outlandish projections made for Adu in 2003 – when, as a 13-year-old, he was handed a million-dollar endorsement deal with Nike and touted as the future of the national team – the decline has been both sad and dramatic.

By now, according to the experts, Adu was supposed to be one of the best players in the world – the first American to become a global star. Instead, he is floundering in the lowly regarded Greek league, and Tuesday's announcement means U.S. head coach Bob Bradley does not even rate him among this country's 30 best players.

Adu's backstory used to resemble the first few chapters of a fairy tale but is now little more than a cautionary tale against overhyping young phenomena. He emigrated to the States from Ghana as an 8-year-old after his mother won the Green Card lottery, and was quickly spotted in the junior ranks in Maryland.

Observers could barely believe their eyes when witnessing such skills in one so young, and the soccer world soon caught on. Giant Italian club Inter Milan offered him a contract as a 10-year-old. US Soccer chiefs positively salivated at the prospect of a future superstar.

In 2004, Adu made U.S. sports history by becoming the top overall pick in the Major League Soccer draft and making his debut for D.C. United at age 14. In hindsight, such acceleration into the senior ranks smacks of madness. Back then, it was seen as merely the first stepping stone on the path to greatness.

Growing up in the spotlight didn't do Adu much good, with the big contract, big expectations and constant scrutiny weighing heavily on his shoulders.

Since 2006, he has resembled a soccer nomad, bouncing from D.C. to Real Salt Lake and then Benfica, the Portuguese club that retains his rights but has now farmed him out on loan to three separate clubs in three years. Some positive performances for the national team in age-restricted events were interspersed, in the Under 20 World Cup in 2007 and the Beijing Olympics (where most players must be 23 or younger) the following year.

The regular spot on the senior team never came, a decision effectively taken out of the hands of Bradley by Adu's failure to lock down regular playing time for his European clubs.

Back when the draw for the World Cup was made in December, Adu still retained some hope of being selected for Bradley's squad.

"I'm gonna say something right now," he wrote on his Twitter account. "I have never wanted to be a part of something as bad as I wanna be in this World Cup. Work and prayer."

This year's World Cup was earmarked as Adu's time to stamp his mark on the world game. From that time years earlier, when Nike hurled cash in his direction and his future looked golden, there was always an eye on 2010.

The 2006 World Cup was seen as too soon. This one, on the African continent of his birth, was perfect.

In the end, it just wasn't to be. The culmination of that plan did not take place in Bafokeng Stadium in Rustenburg, where the United States will meet England on June 12. It was instead in Adu's club apartment in Thessaloniki, with the announcement of a roster that didn't feature his name. Back to the drawing board.

So where did it all go wrong for Adu? Were the hype and expectations too much to handle? Or was he just never destined for stardom?

"It is difficult when young players do not have enough time to develop, when too much is asked too soon," said Hector Cuper, a well-respected Argentinean coach now in charge of Adu's Greek team, Aris. "Extra time allows for a more well-rounded game. He has ability, we can all see that."

Yet if Adu is ever to ascend to the heights he still dreams of, it will be a grind through the ranks and a constant battle to overturn perception of him as a bust. European soccer is a cutthroat world, and there won't be anything easy about it.

"I want to be one of the best players to play this sport one day," Adu said in a recent interview with Sports Illustrated. "I still have the chance to do that, and I want to work hard to get there."

"Getting there" is no longer a given. Recent signs have been reasonable, with some solid performances for Aris taking him to the brink of the 30-man U.S. squad after he was barely in contention months earlier. However, there is still a long and uncertain way to go.

"Freddy is still young and he will tell you there are things along the way he did right and things he did wrong," Bradley said. "Now he has to take all those things to the situation he is in and show he is continuing to grow."

Adu's Twitter account was silent early Tuesday, perhaps a reflection of the bitter disappointment he must have seen coming.

Freddy Adu is 20 years old and he feels like yesterday's man. Maybe his time will still come, but it won't be this summer."


http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/timing-is-everything--fbintl,ro-freddyadu051110.html

5/12/2010 2:31:44 PM

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what's telling about that article is that when the world cup squad was announced, i didn't look for Adu and didn't even notice he was left off

but damn, he's only 20?!

lots of time to improve

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5/12/2010 3:12:52 PM

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^I think he has the skills, but the size issue is more of a problem.

5/12/2010 3:15:44 PM

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I've always wondered where he'd be right now if he'd gone to the Inter academy.

5/12/2010 3:19:08 PM

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haha yeah, he's pretty small

seems like he hasn't grown since he came into the spotlight

5/12/2010 3:26:16 PM

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Lionel Messi is an inch shorter than Adu.

The dude is just not that good. It was all hype. Yes, he still has time to become better, but as of now, he's not even on the radar. You can't call his career a failure, because he's only 20 years old, but it's pretty obvious that we won't be speaking his name in the same sentences as Pele or Maradona as many would have liked you to believe when he was up and coming.

I still think he has the raw ability to become a prominent player on our national level, but as of now who would you replace him with? I'd take Donovan, Dempsey, Bradley, Holden, and Feilhaber over him in a heart beat.

5/12/2010 10:22:53 PM

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"we won't be speaking his name in the same sentences as Pele or Maradona as many would have liked you to believe when he was up and coming."


link?

I still don't believe somebody like Messi should be in the same sentence with Pele/Maradona at this point. Anybody who thought that about Adu is a moron


He had attitude issues (somewhat understandable), he's made a move to a club where he's getting playing time and playing pretty well at this point, and the US coach just doesn't favor him at this point (also very understandable). I don't understand why everybody has to be either:
a) fuck Adu he sucks or
b) Adu will be super awesome, best US player ever

He's only 20 and he still has at least 2 more opportunities to contribute in a WC, I'm not writing him off yet

5/12/2010 10:29:42 PM

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http://worldcup.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/06/07/pele-maradona-and-freddy-adu/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/25/60minutes/main608681.shtml

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"What's really crazy are the expectations being heaped on Freddy. You hear that he's the "next Pele," that he'll be the youngest player ever in a World Cup, that he'll finally make America as mad about soccer as the rest of the world is."


You gotta be kidding me, asking for a "link" like you've never heard any Adu hype. I googled "Maradona Pele Adu" and those were some of the first things to come up. I'm sure there's an SI-type article somewhere saying he's the messiah of American soccer back from when he was 14, but I didn't even have to truly search to display my point.



Please point out where I said "fuck Adu he sucks" or "Adu will be super awesome, best US player ever".

To quote myself:

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"I still think he has the raw ability to become a prominent player on our national level, but as of now who would you replace him with?"


That seems to slide right in between your 'a' and 'b'.

5/12/2010 11:39:41 PM

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