An all white jury convicts a black man who is on video committing a crime.

A mixed jury does not convict a white man who is not on video committing a crime.

Obviously this is proof of racism. If you point out the quality of evidence factor, you must be a gay dumb neckbeard racist.

6/3/2016 1:24:12 PM

drops mic bottle full of mountain dew

[Edited on June 3, 2016 at 1:35 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2016 1:34:36 PM

and btw, i don't know you are a neckbeard because of your dumb trolling, it's because of sentences like this:

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""I see the quality of your SJW "studies" is only surpassed by the quality of your retorts. Thank you sir.""

that is a total neckbeard sentence, the kind of language that a person uses who tucks t-shirts into mom jeans and attends renaissance fairs so that he can call women wenches and wear chainmail shirts that otherwise just live on a shelf beside a collection of swords and anime dolls.

[Edited on June 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

6/3/2016 1:39:01 PM

Yea man, I get it. I'm a dumb, gay, fedora-wearing neckbeard that plays with dolls. Message received. Whatever you say. My jimmies are rustled, big time.

In all seriousness though, it's kinda funny to me that all of this stems from me critiquing a study because it ignored an important variable. I'm sorry it bothered you so much.

6/3/2016 2:06:15 PM

"He's gay" is an interesting followup argument to "He's racist".

6/3/2016 2:20:11 PM

i never said you play with dolls, you just collect them

your weird full size anime pillows are the object of your play time

6/3/2016 2:27:01 PM

^ would that make him....black?

6/3/2016 2:33:53 PM

Quote :

"My jimmies are rustled, big time."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WR5tAYO83s

6/3/2016 2:35:22 PM

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"[Brock] Turner didn't have a criminal history. He is white. [Brian] Banks didn't have a criminal history, either, didn't even have a speeding ticket. He is black. He was making out on his high school campus in Long Beach, Calif., with a 15-year old girl during the summer of 2002 and by the end of the day, she accused him of rape. To this day, Banks doesn't know why."

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"Persky elected not to send Turner to state prison and came up way short on the maximum 14 years he could have handed down. He will have to register as a sex offender. "A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him," the judge said. "I think he will not be a danger to others." As if a prison sentence and living among hardened criminals twice his age didn't have a severe impact on Banks."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/wrongfully-convicted-brian-banks-disgusted-brock-turner-ruling-article-1.2663595

6/8/2016 10:08:46 AM

Quality

of

evidence

6/8/2016 11:47:23 AM

I agree Brock Turner deserves a much more severe sentence, since the average sentence for rape is 11 years. That has caused a ton of outrage from feminist SJWs upset about "rape culture" and it is a fair point to question judge Persky's decision.

Brian Bank's situation is tragic and deserves outrage too, but the fact that the liberal media is trying to make it a race issue is a stretch, even for them. If you want to handpick different convictions from different judges to imply racism, by all means, push your narrative.

Honestly if you know anything about the Bank case, yes you should be outraged, not at "white privilege"... but at Wanetta Gibson. She lied about rape, ruined Bank's life, and got $1.5 million out of it. Unfortunately for the media, this fact goes against both narratives of "rape culture" and "racist whites oppressing black people" since she was black and lied about rape, and caused Bank's predicament.

Naturally, the article wahoowa provided doesn't mention Gibson once, and paints a picture of Banks (black) against a judge from a different case Persky (white). A black woman lies and ruins a black man's life, but somehow the media and SJW sheep say racism is the story here.

6/8/2016 11:01:44 PM

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"Honestly if you know anything about the Bank case, yes you should be outraged, not at "white privilege"... but at Wanetta Gibson. She lied about rape, ruined Bank's life, and got $1.5 million out of it. Unfortunately for the media, this fact goes against both narratives of "rape culture" and "racist whites oppressing black people" since she was black and lied about rape, and caused Bank's predicament."

this case was featured on 60 Minutes

they not count as the media?

6/9/2016 12:40:07 AM

^^ Are you seriously arguing that this situation was a one-time and completely random event? That blacks dont receive harsher sentences for the exact same crimes? Why does the fact that Banks was wrongly accused by a black woman matter? He deserved a harsher sentence because of it?

Here's another example - Cory Bates:

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"When Cory Batey was a 19-year-old standout football player at Vanderbilt, he raped an unconscious woman. The ample evidence, including security cameras showing the unconscious woman being carried into a dorm room and cellphone photos and videos of the sexual assault, was clear — Cory Batey sexually assaulted the woman. In April, a jury found Batey guilty of three felony counts including aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery. He was immediately remanded into custody and must serve a mandatory minimum sentence of 15 to 25 years in prison. That's what makes the case of Brock Turner, a 19-year-old standout swimmer at Stanford who raped an unconscious woman, all the more infuriating. As was the case with Batey, ample evidence existed that Turner was guilty. Eyewitnesses actually caught him in the act as he sexually assaulted an unconscious woman behind a dumpster. A jury agreed and Turner was found guilty of multiple felony rape charges. Turner, though, was given a six-month jail sentence and told he could be released on good behavior in as little as three months. He won't even go to an actual prison, but will remain in the local jail during that time."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-brock-turner-cory-batey-show-race-affects-sentencing-article-1.2664945

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"Between December 2007 and September 2011, the most recent period covered in the report, sentences of black males were 19.5% longer than those for whites. The analysis also found that black males were 25% less likely than whites in the same period to receive a sentence below the guidelines' range."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

[Edited on June 9, 2016 at 9:29 AM. Reason : a]

6/9/2016 9:26:46 AM

haven't you read any of his posts? black people get more time because they do more crime!

6/9/2016 9:33:33 AM

While I would think most people would agree with JCE's one point that, of course, the "media" latches onto these type of stories because it's good for their bottom line, am I the only one that can't bear to read his bot-like, cliche, catch-phrase-ridden posts anymore? (and honestly, I've been just skimming moron's posts as well)

6/9/2016 9:46:09 AM

you still read them?

6/9/2016 9:52:07 AM

I wonder what JCE's origin story is. I bet we can dig up some privilege in there.

6/9/2016 10:47:01 AM

http://nyti.ms/1TXcq5c

6/9/2016 11:31:26 AM

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"Why does the fact that Banks was wrongly accused by a black woman matter? He deserved a harsher sentence because of it?"

What matters is the "article" you referenced didn't mention it once.

We have 2 rape stories, both viral and causes of #Outrage:

1. Turner raped a girl, and got a slap on the wrist for it because Persky sucks as a judge.
2. Gibson lied about rape, got $1.5 million out of it, and ruined Bank's life.

Again, that is the story of the 2 cases, why they are viral, why people are #Outraged. To think that the liberal media found a way to completely ignore #2 and instead try to paint this as a racist... I guess some people prefer to simply be told what narrative to get #Outraged over, rather than learn what happened.

6/9/2016 12:54:14 PM

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""Between December 2007 and September 2011, the most recent period covered in the report, sentences of black males were 19.5% longer than those for whites. The analysis also found that black males were 25% less likely than whites in the same period to receive a sentence below the guidelines' range.""

Does that article have a link to the actual data?

My first question would be did the study account for prior crimes, severity, etc? It doesn't mention any of those factors.

As with any study there is often an omitted variable bias that you have to consider, so I always take these with a grain of salt. As we have seen from "studies" ITT, most don't control other variables and simply point to a disparity as proof of racism... especially when there is a clickbait incentive to have a racist headline.

Even the study kinda suggests this:

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"The commission, which is part of the judicial branch, was careful to avoid the implication of racism among federal judges, acknowledging that they "make sentencing decisions based on many legitimate considerations that are not or cannot be measured.""

6/9/2016 1:04:43 PM

6/9/2016 1:14:42 PM

apparently we can't prove anything because everything needs more evidence.

6/9/2016 2:37:16 PM

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"My first question would be did the study account for prior crimes, severity, etc? It doesn't mention any of those factors."

it does:

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"The data in this report necessarily differs in certain respects from the data published annually in the Commission’s Sourcebook of Federal Sentencing Statistics. In the Sourcebook, offenses are generally classified by the offense of conviction, whereas in this analysis, offenses are classified by the guideline applied at sentencing. These two methods of defining cases are both useful for research analysis; the choice of which method to use depends on the type of analysis to be undertaken. For this report, the Commission classified offenses by the guideline applied at sentencing because it enables several analyses. The guidelines take into account real offense conduct, such as the presence of a weapon, or the amount stolen in a robbery, that are not accounted for by mere reference to the statute of conviction.373 If, for example, an offender convicted of a drug trafficking offense engaged in conduct in which a victim was killed, that offender might be sentenced pursuant to the guideline applicable to homicide rather than drug trafficking.374 Such an offender’s sentence would not reflect the operation of the drug trafficking guideline, and therefore, including that sentence in the analysis of drug trafficking sentences would not contribute to an accurate analysis of the drug trafficking guideline. In summary, because the 372 Child pornography offenses include the production, sale, distribution, transportation, shipment, receipt, or possession of materials involving the sexual exploitation of minors sentenced under USSG §2G2.1 (Sexually Exploiting a Minor by Production of Sexually Explicit Visual or Printed Material; Custodian Permitting Minor to Engage in Sexually Explicit Conduct; Advertisement for Minors to Engage in Production), USSG §2G2.2 (Trafficking in Material Involving the Sexual Exploitation of a Minor; Receiving, Transporting, Shipping, Soliciting, or Advertising Material Involving the Sexual Exploitation of a Minor; Possessing Material Involving the Sexual Exploitation of a Minor with Intent to Traffic; Possessing Material Involving the Sexual Exploitation of a Minor), or USSG §2G2.4 (Possession of Materials Depicting a Minor Engaged in Sexually Explicit Conduct) (deleted by consolidation with §2G2.2 effective November 1, 2004 (see USSG App. C, amend. 664)). 373 See USSG Ch.1, Pt.A, intro. comment. (Nov. 2012). 374 USSG §2D1.1(d) (cross references) (Nov. 2012). offender’s conduct ultimately determines the applicable sentencing range, classifying offenders by guideline rather than by statute of conviction facilitates a more precise analysis in which offenders engaged in similar criminal conduct are grouped together"

6/9/2016 3:01:09 PM

https://www.buzzfeed.com/talalansari/there-was-a-huge-increase-in-attacks-on-mosques-last-year?utm_content=buffer2b130&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

6/20/2016 2:06:10 PM

^^ I don't have the link but from reading that, how does that account for prior criminal history or severity? Feel free to correct me TWW lawyers, but all that shows is if someone commits murder during a drug deal, then they aren't comparing that sentence with a non-murder drug deal.

^ 78 instances of mosque vandalism = epidemic to SJWs
912 instances of anti-semitic vandalism = *crickets*
Reality > Narrative

6/20/2016 5:04:36 PM

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"912 instances of anti-semitic vandalism = *crickets*"

wtf are you blathering about? that's a very strawy strawman.

jeez man, you've got some serious issues.

[Edited on June 20, 2016 at 5:14 PM. Reason : ]

6/20/2016 5:12:34 PM

^ i'm impressed he's acknowledging the existence of any kind of racism in present day society

Looks like this social justice battle is gaining some ground.

[Edited on June 20, 2016 at 5:30 PM. Reason : ]

6/20/2016 5:30:04 PM

I really hope TWW doesn't go down so I can keep telling ya'll that saying "white privilege" is racist

6/20/2016 8:39:58 PM

I'm merely putting the numbers into perspective for you SJWs. I know it can be a difficult pill to swallow.

Someone vandalizing a mosque is bad, sure. However, why do SJWs think that it is worse than vandalizing a synagogue or a cathedral? 100 Synagogues get vandalized, and 1 mosque gets vandalized... guess which one gets outrage and media coverage? Guess which one moron regurgitates ITT?

I'm hoping eventually you SJWs can put on your big boy pants and learn to differentiate narrative from reality, but it seems you are satisfied with being outraged by whatever the liberal clickbait tells you to be outraged by. #EchoChamberSyndrome #ThereIsNoCure #IStandWithAhmedHoax

[Edited on June 20, 2016 at 11:01 PM. Reason : .]

6/20/2016 11:00:52 PM

I'm confused by the numbers you're putting into perspective. Don't the Jews control the media?

6/20/2016 11:15:00 PM

I know it can be confusing, but bare with me. I'll say it as simply as I can:

"Islamaphobia" is a statistically insignificant, exaggerated narrative, propagated by the liberal media and gullible SJWs.

I'm very proud of you bleeding-hearts for being #outraged about vandalism targeting religious communities, I just think it's a bit odd you only care about 1 religion being targeted, especially when it is so statistically insignificant in comparison.

It's almost as if you don't actually care about religious freedom, you just care about being outraged by whatever the liberal media tells you to be outraged by...

6/21/2016 1:17:01 AM

I'm confused now.

There seem to be two naratives. One is what you're describing and the second is Islam is a force that is invading our Christian nation and must be stopped by not allowing them into the country.

If islamaphobia is statistically insignificant then the second narrative is also a false narrative.

What is the truth?

[Edited on June 21, 2016 at 7:25 AM. Reason : ??????]

6/21/2016 7:14:24 AM

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"However, why do SJWs think that it is worse than vandalizing a synagogue or a cathedral?"

Where did you get this from? When has a "SJW" said or inferred this? Does this viewpoint represent all "SJW"s? Are you not just making stuff up and over-generalizing and creating strawmen arguments (or narratives, if you will)? What is wrong with you?

(I mean, how can you think that proving that "White Privlege" doesn't exist is more important than speaking out against human trafficking and childhood labor and cancer and starving kids in Africa???)

[Edited on June 21, 2016 at 9:06 AM. Reason : ]

6/21/2016 8:58:49 AM

Quote :

"Where did you get this from? When has a "SJW" said or inferred this? Does this viewpoint represent all "SJW"s? Are you not just making stuff up and over-generalizing and creating strawmen arguments (or narratives, if you will)? "

As I already said, 100 synagogues/cathedrals get vandalized, 1 mosque gets vandalized... guess which 1 case gets headlines in the liberal tabloids, and guess which 100 cases don't?

Obviously every sane person should think hate towards any specific religion is bad, but as we can see from the disparity of SJW "outrage" and leftist media coverage, it isn't about having that principal or putting the numbers in perspective... it's about shaping a narrative.

So the next time someone spray paints graffiti on a mosque, by all means spam your anecdotal links in the echo-chamber and convince yourself that "Islamaphobia" is an epidemic. #IStandWithAhmed

6/21/2016 1:58:40 PM

^completely ignores the contradictory "islamaphobia isn't real" and "muslims should be banned" point.

6/21/2016 2:04:16 PM

I'm sorry, where have I ever made the ""muslims should be banned" argument? Maybe you have me confused with a strawman that said that.

6/21/2016 2:09:09 PM

you are aware that there is a presidential candidate that said exactly that, right?

6/21/2016 2:16:06 PM

And it's been mentioned before, but I'm pretty sure most people would acknowledge (even a lot of SJWs) that the media latches on to stories that they know will draw attention and result in increased revenue... it's unfortunate but true, journalism with integrity is dying

6/21/2016 2:45:25 PM

I'm sure you can find a Trump sound bite that is offensive towards whoever the "victim of the day" is... it's funny though. You would think with this epidemic of "Islamaphobia" Muslims wouldn't be immigrating to America... it's almost as if the HuffingtonPost is exaggerating it. *gasp*

Perhaps you also heard Trump called a subset of illegal Mexican immigrants rapists! Did you know the number of Taco Bells that have been vandalized has gone up 20% since last year! When will this epidemic of MexicanPhobia end? #IStandWithPedro (Oh wait, mexicans currently aren't on the liberal hierarchy of victimhood).

6/21/2016 2:49:33 PM

dude...he literally said we should ban muslims from entering the country
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

of course, that site is liberal SJW media propaganda, right?

6/21/2016 4:15:57 PM

And what does that have to do with mosques being vandalized at a disproportionately low rate yet receiving such a disproportionately high amount of outrage/attention by SJWs?

6/21/2016 5:29:25 PM

Personally I can't remember a recent story about a mosque being vandilized. A synagogue in Brooklyn had a bunch of swasticas tagged on it. That caused a local shit show.

This seems like a weird thing to latch on to in a fight against "SJW"

6/21/2016 6:51:40 PM

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"Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) had filed an amendment to a bill funding the Treasury Department to prohibit the department from redesigning any currency to showcase the abolitionist icon Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/house-could-vote-to-block-harriet-tubman-from-20-bill-224637#ixzz4CGm8f729 Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook"

This guy is an elected official

6/21/2016 10:03:04 PM

Ha.

Good stuff

6/21/2016 10:06:06 PM

So....islamaphobia isn't real, and the banning of Muslims isn't islamaphobic? I think that's probably exponentially more relevant than some mosque vandalism.

6/21/2016 10:38:45 PM

In typical SJW fashion you have taken my criticism of your exaggerated narrative and responded to a strawman argument of "Islamaphobia doesn't exist".

I never said "Islamaphobia doesn't exist". I'm just pointing out how desperate the left is to exaggerate it, while failing to put things in perspective in comparison to other religions being targeted.

At the end of the day though, no matter how high Muslims are elevated on the liberal hierarchy of victimhood.. that simply doesn't reflect reality. The USA is a very nice place for Muslims to live. You can point to Trump sound bites or misrepresent statistically rare cases of vandalism and tell Muslims they are "victims" as much as you want, the great thing about reality is that it exists independently no matter how much Gawker/ThinkProgress/BuzzFeed/RawStory/Salon/HuffingtonPost pessimistically exaggerate and misrepresent it.


^^^ Out of all the things happening in the world, this is the fabricated "issue" to divide us? And you fuckers wonder why the election is between Clinton and Trump.

[Edited on June 22, 2016 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/22/2016 12:54:25 PM

I think pointing to a major party candidates own fucking platform is as legitimate as it gets. I mean is that not proof positive that maybe there is an issue with misunderstanding or fear of American Muslims?

6/22/2016 1:06:04 PM

That wouldn't be a fear of American Muslims, it would be Xenophobic as it would be a fear of immigrating Muslims.

I actually do think that makes a big difference in the minds of most Americans too.

6/22/2016 1:11:25 PM

What exactly was my exaggerated narrative? I was merely pointing out your question dodging (in typical JCE fashion). And is your answer "Islamaphobia exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be"? Is that your stance on the issues? You seem really consistent with it. Lemme guess...racism exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be. Poverty exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be. Terrorism exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be. Make a fucking point and stop being such a pussy with no substance!

Also, the general public isn't taking the time to dissect American muslims from foreign muslims. The rhetoric is against MUSLIMS. If you don't agree, you're a SJW. Come original, bro.

6/22/2016 1:54:45 PM

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"What exactly was my exaggerated narrative?"

The exaggerated narrative was coming from moron, who in typical fashion, bumped the thread with a liberal link suggesting "America is so racist/bigoted/islamaphobic".

Quote :

" I was merely pointing out your question dodging (in typical JCE fashion)."

You were attributing comments from Trump and far right narratives to me as if they are representative of what I think to suggest there was a conflict.

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"And is your answer "Islamaphobia exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be"? Is that your stance on the issues? You seem really consistent with it. Lemme guess...racism exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be. Poverty exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be. Terrorism exists...it just isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be. Make a fucking point and stop being such a pussy with no substance!"

It is completely reasonable to acknowledge problems exist but disagree with the left's blatant exaggeration and misrepresentation of events to create divisiveness and outrage. I know you would have preferred attacking the "___ism ____phobia doesn't exist" strawman, sorry to disappoint you.

6/22/2016 8:43:10 PM