I'll add the actual text:

Quote :

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40…"

12/18/2017 5:37:01 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-intel-committee-investigating-jill-stein-campaign-for-collusion-with-the-russians/2017/12/18/ea7f3f1a-e44b-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.d421f58a4c50

Quote :

"The Senate Intelligence Committee is looking at the presidential campaign of the Green Party’s Jill Stein for potential “collusion with the Russians,” a sign that the panel’s probe is far from over, even as allegations swirl that the House Intelligence Committee’s investigation is racing to a close."

This is in the dossier, by the way, page 15.

https://www.scribd.com/document/336222345/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations#from_embed

[Edited on December 18, 2017 at 10:53 PM. Reason : a]

12/18/2017 10:42:29 PM

What a fucking load of shit. This so called investigation has complete ADD and isn't going anywhere. All because the democrats can't accept the results of the election. The only reason she had time for it was because the liberal media firewall blocked her from all outlets throughout.

Find quid pro quo or shut the hell up.

12/21/2017 7:39:19 PM

That damn democrat running the investigation appointed by that other fucking Democrat...what a couple of sore losers

[Edited on December 21, 2017 at 8:10 PM. Reason : Shd]

12/21/2017 8:10:30 PM

Richard Burr is just a Hillary lackey, am I right.

[Edited on December 21, 2017 at 9:00 PM. Reason : Lol did Earl mix up the Republican led house and senate committees with the special counsel?]

12/21/2017 8:57:55 PM

Also, Burr said he was expanding to both the Stein AND Clinton campaigns which makes Earls point even more mindnumbingly ignorant.

12/21/2017 9:02:21 PM

yeah except both sides of the establshment have always been working together to....preserve the establishment. fuck em all. may trump runeth em over.

[Edited on December 21, 2017 at 9:55 PM. Reason : it was ingornant and id didn't know because cnn didnt say it in a 20 minute segment. fuck them too]

12/21/2017 9:54:22 PM

Quote :

"This so called investigation has complete ADD and isn't going anywhere."

I actually generally hold you in decent regards. You are going to be very surprised by how this whole thing shakes out, irrespective of whether Donald Trump is officially charged with anything. This is not a witch hunt, or a crap shoot, or some made up nonsense.

12/22/2017 3:41:04 AM

What about Jill Stein?

12/22/2017 4:24:11 AM

It’s patently obvious why they are looking at her and relitigating Uranium One. Deflection.

No one seriously thinks Jill Stein did anything wrong aside from being a laughingstock globally and bringing down the upside of the Green Party..

[Edited on December 22, 2017 at 7:56 AM. Reason : And yes I’m aware there is a segment of Dem twitter that thinks everyone is a Russian plant]

12/22/2017 7:56:01 AM

I'll wait for Mueller to make a statement whether Stein is involved or not. I can tell you that her sitting at that table with Michael Flynn while also having been mentioned by name in Steele's reports are all enough for me to say investigate it.

I'm not sold on Uranium One. It was a unanimous decision so wouldn't they need, for starters, to investigate every one? Clinton also didn't cast any votes so why aren't they looking at those people?

I'm okay giving a cursory check on money movements that weren't reported, though.

[Edited on December 22, 2017 at 12:29 PM. Reason : a]

12/22/2017 12:28:22 PM

http://www.newsweek.com/nunes-fbi-justice-trump-dossier-755320

https://apnews.com/c3b26c647e794073b7626befa146caad

http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/29/donald-trump-russia-secret-deutsche-bank-753780.html

[Edited on December 22, 2017 at 2:07 PM. Reason : a]

12/22/2017 1:47:33 PM

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/614/the-other-mr-president

12/23/2017 11:21:59 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-legal-team-readies-attack-on-flynns-credibility/2017/12/27/bc601324-ea78-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html?utm_term=.8dbc2a688638

Quote :

"President Trump’s legal team plans to cast former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn as a liar seeking to protect himself if he accuses the president or his senior aides of any wrongdoing, according to three people familiar with the strategy. The approach would mark a sharp break from Trump’s previously sympathetic posture toward Flynn, whom he called a “wonderful man” when Flynn was ousted from the White House in February. Earlier this month, the president did not rule out a possible pardon for Flynn, who is cooperating with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Attorneys for Trump and his top advisers have privately expressed confidence that Flynn does not have any evidence that could implicate the president or his White House team. But since Flynn’s cooperation agreement with prosecutors was made public earlier this month, the administration has been strategizing how to neutralize him in case the former national security adviser does make any claims."

12/27/2017 7:52:04 PM

So how long until we start seeing "accidents" and "muggings" happen?

12/28/2017 11:37:44 AM

it's been happening to russians for awhile, do you mean to americans?

12/28/2017 12:25:56 PM

And in connection with this case it's already happened.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html

I'm pretty sure Sources A and B in Steele's memos are:

Oleg Erovinkin

Petr Polshikov

12/28/2017 12:54:26 PM

so we've discussed cambridge analytica, SCL group, mercer, and alfa bank before in this thread but i thought this comment on reddit did a really good job summarizing the connections:

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/7mibtq/mueller_is_reportedly_investigating_whether_the/druplp7/
(i did my best co copy formatting)

Quote :

""Microtargeting" of content is really interesting. Because Robert Mercer, the billionaire hedgefund guy behind Trump, is the main investor in Cambridge Analytica - a company that specializes in exactly that. It's parent company is SCL Group (Strategic Communication Laboratories) which has been described as a "global election management agency" known for involvement "in military disinformation campaigns to social media branding and voter targeting". In short, they specialize in military propaganda or ‘psyops’. Cambridge Analytica was brought in by Mercer to help Trump win. quote: Cambridge Analytica: The company claims to use “data enhancement and audience segmentation techniques” providing “psychographic analysis” for a “deeper knowledge of the target audience”. The company uses the OCEAN scale of personality traits. Using what it calls "behavioral microtargeting" the company indicates that it can predict "needs" of subjects and how these needs may change over time. Services then can be individually targeted for the benefit of its clients from the political arena, governments, and companies providing "a better and more actionable view of their key audiences." /quote Combining data and content obtained through nefarious means (hacking) with sophisticated software and targeting to maximize its effectiveness is evil genius. All the pieces are coming together now. What is becoming much clearer now is that Trump's victory was no bumbling accident. Interestingly, Cambridge Analytica's software is based on models developed by Cambridge academic Michal Kosinski - he didn't want to have anything to do with the company. The guy that first approached Kosinski was Aleksandr Kogan, a Russian. It was Kogan that apparently introduced SCL to Kosinki's models. Kogan then moved to Singapore and changed his name to Alexander Spectre. Was he working for Russian Intelligence? Given the key role Cambridge Analytica and SCL played in the US election (and in Brexit), it would be good to know who exactly is behind them. quote: Who exactly owns SCL and its diverse branches is unclear, thanks to a convoluted corporate structure, the type seen in the UK Companies House, the Panama Papers, and the Delaware company registry. Some of the SCL offshoots have been involved in elections from Ukraine to Nigeria, helped the Nepalese monarch against the rebels, whereas others have developed methods to influence Eastern European and Afghan citizens for NATO. And, in 2013, SCL spun off a new company to participate in US elections: Cambridge Analytica. /quote It gets more interesting. The largest shareholder of SCL was on record as being Vincent Tchenguiz, an Iranian-British businessman. Tchenguiz is a business partner with Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash, who is known as a Putin protégé. Tchenguiz used the same Guernsey holding company, Wheddon Ltd., to invest both in Cambridge Analytica’s parent company and in another privately held U.K. business whose largest shareholder was the Ukrainian gas middleman Dmitry Firtash - a close friend of Putin who is currently indicted and awaiting extradition on corruption and racketeering charges. quote: Over the same time period, other documents show, bankers close to Putin granted Firtash credit lines of up to $11 billion. That credit helped Firtash, who backed pro-Russian Viktor Yanukovich's successful 2010 bid to become Ukraine's president, to buy a dominant position in the country's chemical and fertiliser industry and expand his influence. /quote And guess who was Dmitry Firtash's former business partner? Paul Manafort - Trump's former campaign manager. Manafort of course worked directly for Yanukovych and Firtash was the middleman between Putin and the Yanukovych electoral operation in Ukraine. So the largest shareholder of Cambridge Analytica is a business partner with Firtash, who has direct ties with Putin. Firtash is known to operate as a financing middleman for Putin's foreign policy "operations". Could SCL, parent of CA, be a front for a Russian Intelligence operation? If you think about it, SCL specializes in new sophisticated technology models for military propaganda. If you read up on new Russian military doctrine, it's clear they are placing a big emphasis on information warfare. The 'Gerasimov Doctrine’ is quite insightful about how Russia views defeating their enemies: quote: The role of nonmilitary means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown, and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness....All this is supplemented by military means of a concealed character, including carrying out actions of informational conflict. Among such actions are the use of special-operations forces and internal opposition to create a permanently operating front through the entire territory of the enemy state, as well as informational actions, devices, and means that are constantly being perfected. /quote Did Russia view Bannon/Trump and co as the perfect vehicles to ferment and support "internal opposition"? Was Cambridge Analytica one of the vehicles to achieve this and to help execute their ideas around information warfare? Guess who a Board Member of Cambridge Analytica was? Steve Bannon. And it was Robert Mercer that bankrolled Steve Bannon and Breitbart to the tune of $10 million - no doubt to be the front-facing tool to execute on their ideas around influence, manipulation and propaganda. And with the help of Russian Intelligence, it is entirely plausible Breitbart was involved in using bots and social media to help propagate news they knew would damage Hillary and help Trump. There are very clear and direct ties between powerful Russian/Ukrainian figures and Cambridge Analytica - which specializes in military propaganda. Steve Bannon was a board member and Robert Mercer was its biggest investor. And of course Mercer, Banner, Cambridge Analytica and Brieitbart all played a key roll in helping Trump get elected. It's not a big stretch to suggest that there was cooperation and collusion with Russian Intelligence, who provided hacked data to Cambridge Analytica, who then used it to carry out a sophisticated propaganda campaign, with Breitbart as the lead. Cambridge Analytica also played a key role in BREXIT - offering Firage and the Leave campaign their services for free. quote: The firm is said to have advised Leave.eu by harvesting data from people's Facebook profiles to decide how to target them with individualised advertisements. /quote Brexit was of course seen as a big geopolitical strategic win for Putin and Russia. Another interesting bit of info that is a bit tenuous but nonetheless intriguing - the largest shareholder of SCL Group was Vincent Tchenguiz. quote: In March 2011 the Tchenguiz brothers were arrested in dramatic predawn raids as part of an investigation into the 2008 collapse of the Icelandic bank Kaupthing. Just before its collapse, Kaupthing’s loans to the Tchenguiz brothers totaled 40 percent of its capital. It has been charged that Kaupthing—which had a far-from-transparent ownership structure—was effectively the Tchenguiz brothers’ bank and that they looted the bank, leading to its collapse. Kaupthing’s largest shareholder, Meidur, now called Exista, which owned 25 percent of its shares, had ties to Alfa Bank, the largest Russian commercial bank; Alfa chairman was “deep state” figure Mikhail Fridman, chairman and co-founder of Alfa Group, the parent of Alfa Bank. Meanwhile, Trump adviser Richard Burt (who also was being paid by Russia to promote a Gazprom pipeline) is on the “senior advisory board” of Alfa Bank. /quote Was this how Russian intelligence bankrolled SCL in the early days? Perhaps Vincent Tchenguiz was the cutout man, and funds were channeled from Alfa Bank into Kaupthing and on to Vincent Tchenguiz. Russian Intelligence seems to work well with ambitious businessman who are happy to be corrupted if they can make some money. Trump also seemed to fit this bill. Alfa Bank was the bank that a Trump Server was mysteriously communicating with and was likely the subject of an FBI surveillance warrant."

12/28/2017 1:23:28 PM

Quote :

"it's been happening to russians for awhile, do you mean to americans?"

Yes I mean to Americans, like Flynn.

12/28/2017 1:31:45 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

Quote :

"During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton... Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role. The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired."

12/30/2017 12:40:09 PM

Pretty crazy the FBI was leaking like a sieve about emailllsslllssssss during the campaign but nothing about Trump and Russia. Almost like they aren’t actually biased against Trump.

[Edited on December 30, 2017 at 5:42 PM. Reason : Also Rusy ]

12/30/2017 5:40:04 PM

Especially when they are obviously anti-trump clintonists !

12/30/2017 6:30:04 PM

It’s almost insane how right the Dossier has been even though it wasn’t the basis for the investigation.

I’m almost half expecting a pee tape once Putin is officially tired of Trumps dementia.

12/30/2017 6:33:52 PM

^yep

https://thinkprogress.org/russian-tankers-oil-north-korea-f78290d61ccc/

I like how Trump publicly criticized China for doing this but not a word on Russia.

[Edited on December 30, 2017 at 7:56 PM. Reason : a]

12/30/2017 7:56:25 PM

https://twitter.com/adamgoldmannyt/status/948549707479076864

Even Bannon is sick of Trumps shit..

[Edited on January 3, 2018 at 8:44 AM. Reason : I’m seeing him speak next week. Should be interesting..]

1/3/2018 8:44:20 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

Quote :

"Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian. Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers. “Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”"

[Edited on January 3, 2018 at 8:51 AM. Reason : a]

1/3/2018 8:50:39 AM

It may be unrelated, but this is an interesting excerpt from the Fusion GPS cofounders' New York Times op-ed:

Quote :

"We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp."

[Edited on January 3, 2018 at 10:58 AM. Reason : ]

1/3/2018 10:56:03 AM

Yup - interesting op-ed.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/03/575259858/firm-that-contracted-steele-dossier-says-it-was-shocked-by-findings-on-trump

[Edited on January 3, 2018 at 11:19 AM. Reason : ^]

1/3/2018 11:18:18 AM

^^^,^^^^ let's see if Bannon will make those comments himself, or if this is just media for the sake of book sales by an author with not the best reputation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wolff_(journalist)

Quote :

"Criticism[edit] In its review of Wolff's book Burn Rate, Brill's Content criticized Wolff for "apparent factual errors" and said that more than a dozen of the subjects he mentioned complained that Wolff had "invented or changed quotes" that he attributed to them.[20] In a 2004 cover story for The New Republic, Michelle Cottle wrote that Wolff was "uninterested in the working press," preferring to focus on "the power players—the moguls" and was "fixated on culture, style, buzz, and money, money, money." She also noted that "the scenes in his columns aren’t recreated so much as created—springing from Wolff’s imagination rather than from actual knowledge of events." Calling his writing "a whirlwind of flourishes and tangents and asides that often stray so far from the central point that you begin to wonder whether there is a central point", she quoted one daily New York columnist as saying "I find it nearly impossible to read his columns. They’re flabby. I don’t know what the fuck he’s trying to say." One journalist who knew Wolff told Cottle, "He can't write. He doesn't report."[21] Cottle subsequently called Wolff "possibly the bitchiest media big foot writing today."[22] "Wolff's prose is difficult to hack through," wrote Erik Wemple in The Washington Post, adding that Wolff "is the Foxconn of the pointless, comma-laden aside." [23] The Columbia Journalism Review criticized Wolff in 2010 when he suggested that The New York Times was aggressively covering the breaking News International phone hacking scandal as a way of attacking News Corporation chairman Rupert Murdoch. CJR called Wolff's analysis "pathetic", "disgusting", "twisted", and based on "zero evidence".[24] His former employer, New York Magazine, has called him an "angry man for pay" and a "media provocateur".[25] Howard Kurtz once said, "Michael is rarely impressed by anyone other than himself." [26] In November 2016, Wolff evoked criticism for stating that journalists should serve as "stenographers." [27] Charlie Pierce called Wolff's comment "an incredible pile of bullshit."[27] "

from the original article:

Quote :

"Bannon went on, Wolff writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”."

So Bannon bitches about Trump committing treason, and then goes on to bitch about how he didn't get to participate?

1/3/2018 12:36:55 PM

It's odd that President Trump's statement attacked Steve Bannon and not #fakenews.

1/3/2018 1:33:39 PM

Bannon must have hit too close to the motherland.

Oops, sorry, I mean too close to home.

Anyway, very brief timeline regarding what triggered the investigation:

1) British intelligence
2) Australian intelligence
3) FBI investigation starts
4) Christopher Steele dossier presented to FBI

Pretty sure I have that timeline correct.

1/3/2018 5:38:34 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-tower-meeting-may-have-been-unpatriotic-it-wasn-t-n834571

The goal post moving is so amazing to me.

Quote :

"Legal analysis In a new book by Michael Wolff, "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House," former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon calls a meeting between Trump campaign officials and a Russian lawyer during the presidential campaign "treasonous" and "unpatriotic." The meeting at Trump Tower may or may not have been unpatriotic. But it was not treason."

I'll concede, legally-speaking, treasonous, but it is far more than unpatriotic.

1/4/2018 1:11:31 PM

Quote :

"WASHINGTON — Anticipating that Special Counsel Robert Mueller will ask to interview President Donald Trump, the president’s legal team is discussing a range of potential options for the format, including written responses to questions in lieu of a formal sit-down, according to three people familiar with the matter."

This would be outrageous and Mueller certainly would not agree to it. Clinton sat for 11 fucking hours for an admitted political sideshow and this guy doesn’t even want to meet in person. His aides and lawyers treat him like a child and know he would perjure himself in seconds.

1/8/2018 8:25:32 AM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/initial-talks-underway-about-trump-interview-mueller-russia-probe-n835506

Quote :

"... another possibility being contemplated was an affidavit signed by the president affirming he was innocent of any wrongdoing and denying any collusion."

"Alright, boys, let's wrap up this investigation - the president signed an affidavit affirming that he was innocent of any wrongdoing and denying any collusion. Apparently, our work here is done."

[Edited on January 8, 2018 at 9:03 AM. Reason : ]

1/8/2018 9:02:31 AM

Whoa, a Dem took decisive action for once and didn’t give a fuck about GOP feelings. Feinstein released the full Glenn Simpson transcript.

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/3/9/3974a291-ddbe-4525-9ed1-22bab43c05ae/934A3562824CACA7BB4D915E97709D2F.simpson-transcript-redacted.pdf

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 1:25 PM. Reason : Holy shit, this is blowing massive torpedo sized holes into the GOP narrative. No eonder they block.]

1/9/2018 1:13:28 PM

takeaways so far
- steele went to the fbi because he was worried trump was being blackmailed
- when steele went to fbi they said they had already found and captured corroborating evidence
- steele thought that someone from inside the trump campaign went to the FBI before he did
- when the Oct 31st NYT article was posted that said the FBI had found no clear trump-russia links, they severed their ties with the FBI because they were concerned the FBI was being manipulated by the Trump people
-GPS took a lot of care and reviewed qualifications. steele and russia were not the only avenue they were researching trump, so it's much harder to say this was done for the purpose of fabricating trump-russia connections.

1/9/2018 2:25:49 PM

seth abramson is reading it now:
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/950800455797534720

1/9/2018 2:28:33 PM

^^I am so curious as to who the human source is. Would be utterly amazing if it was Melania.

I'll be reading this evening but someone sent this to me already:

Partial summary/highlights someone posted:

- 7 references to "mafia" links
- 20 references to Putin links
- a lot of people around Trump aren't paying taxes
- Trump repeatedly said he and his buildings were worth less than people and agencies imagined

- the intelligence community seems to think Trump's being blackmailed
- the specific reason for the blackmail has to do with "Russians having cameras in all the luxury hotel rooms"
- Steele believed a "human source from inside the Trump organization" had already gone to FBI: "a voluntary source, someone who was concerned with the same concerns we had" (pp.175-6) - that being, that the now president was/is being blackmailed by the Kremlin. The FBI viewed Steele's info as credible *because they already had the same info from a Trump insider*

- on page 154, on Trump "However, he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin"
- on page 242, Fusion believed because of their research Carter Page was compromised, and he was being offered business deals for his cooperation
- on page 279, Simpson said someone was already killed because of the information contained in the dossier
Asterisks denote something was in italics

Regarding that page 279 comment, if it's a Russian national I bet it's in this:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html
either him: Oleg Erovinkin
or him: Petr Polshikov

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 2:45 PM. Reason : cnn link]

1/9/2018 2:29:02 PM

sounds like simpson knows, when asked who the human intelligence source inside the trump campaign might be:
Mr. Leavy: He's going to decline to answer that question
Ms. Sayer: On what basis?
Mr. Simpson: Security.
Mr. Levy: Security.

1/9/2018 2:42:29 PM

Some NatSec reporters are saying people close to Simpson say he was wrong and that is referring to Papadopolous.

In any case, the NYT article clearly fed to them by the Giuliani gang is probably one of the more consequential fuck ups in the media from 2016...

1/9/2018 2:57:30 PM

^you mean the human source is pappadopolous?

1/9/2018 2:58:43 PM

i guess that would make sense, we know australia reported it to US authorities and that would fit the timeline of steele's alerting the fbi and them already knowing

edit: if it was papadopoulos though their reasoning to not answer makes less sense unless it's security for the person at the fbi who told them


this isn't unrelated to russia, but i like the tidbit about trump not being able to win a libel lawsuit because he couldn't prove he was a billionaire

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2018 3:01:46 PM

If that's the case, why would he have lied to the FBI to begin with? And then why charge him with anything?

1/9/2018 3:04:12 PM

who lied to whom?

Quote :

" You said that he told you of the meeting 19 with the FBI in Rome in mid or late September, that 20 he "gave them a full briefing"? 21 A. A debrief I think is what he probably 22 said, they had debriefed him. I don't remember him 23 articulating the specifics of that. You know, my 24 understanding was that they would have gotten into 25 who his sources were, how he knew certain things, 1 and, you know, other details based on their own 2 intelligence. Essentially what he told me was they 3 had other intelligence about this matter from an 4 internal Trump campaign source and that -- that 5 they -- my understanding was that they believed 6 Chris at this point -- that they believed Chris's 7 information might be credible because they had 8 other intelligence that indicated the same thing 9 and one of those pieces of intelligence was a human 10 source from inside the Trump organization. "

papadopoulus could be the "internal Trump campaign source"

by charge do you mean steele? grassley and republicans wanted to charge steele so that the transcript couldn't be released since it would be part of the investigation

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 3:21 PM. Reason : m]

1/9/2018 3:07:43 PM

Nah, I just mean that the human source Simpson speaks of was someone the FBI was hearing from prior to receiving Steele's work.

So if it's Papadopolous, I'm curious how he ended up getting charged by Mueller late 2017 for lying to the FBI about contacts with Russians.

In other words, I'm presuming the human source is not him.

1/9/2018 3:10:33 PM

Yeah, that sounds off. I was just saying what I saw from multiple NatSec reporters. Papa doesn’t make sense as the reference there for many reasons, including the fact it’s common knowledge he was taken into custody in an airport without previous knowledge.

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 3:11 PM. Reason : The GOP is clearly acting in bad faith here with the help of their media machine]

https://twitter.com/natashabertrand/status/950822390824689667

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM. Reason : Clarification ]

1/9/2018 3:10:59 PM

papa told an australian who told the FBI, he didn't tell the FBI himself, "internal Trump campaign source" could still apply even if it wasn't a willing source

[Edited on January 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2018 3:11:51 PM

^Ah, valid point.

1/9/2018 3:17:48 PM

haha, when asked to summarize what they found he said they found some many connections to criminals he can't even remember all their names

1/9/2018 3:35:01 PM

Slight aside not related to the juicy Trump parts:

I found his testimony regarding Bill Browder kinda interesting. Most media represents him as a former businessman now on a righteous quest to battle Russian corruption in memory of his murdered friend Magnitsky. In fact I had followed some of Browder's twitter action as he commented on this Russia fiasco. The testimony suggests Browder's business dealing in Russia were just as sketchy and shitty as most of the other oligarchs in that country, he ain't no saint (although all of that pre-dates Magnitsky's murder).

1/9/2018 3:35:08 PM