Okay and because one radio guy says so, there is smoke?

7/10/2012 9:51:53 PM

7/10/2012 9:57:38 PM

Lol one radio guy??? It's been said for years that AAU program is dirty. Turns out that was true.

Don't get mad, its not like were in trouble yet or anything. One of the good things about hiring an SEC guy like Gottfried is that they have been at big programs and know how to do things the safe way.

When you hire a guy from a small program you have to worry about them not being experienced. Also if you hire an asst coach sometimes under the pressure to prove themselves quickly they go too fast and too furious like Quinn Snyder did at Missouri and they get sloppy and get caught.

7/10/2012 10:35:04 PM

I'm not even close to mad. I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.

You just post shit without any evidence, just wanted you to back it up.

[Edited on July 11, 2012 at 6:43 AM. Reason : ]

7/11/2012 6:43:27 AM

jeez guys don't air your dirty laundry in public

7/11/2012 7:03:43 AM

martin, just stop

7/11/2012 9:22:25 AM

Don't be naive people. It's major college sports. By all means though, if it helps you sleep at night, think people want to go places for "academics" or "their mom likes them."

7/11/2012 10:59:47 AM

Guys like Martin and NyM are so in the know. God, I wish I had their level of insight. They've reached a higher plane of college athletics appreciation.

[Edited on July 11, 2012 at 11:03 AM. Reason : Zen and the art of five-star recruiting]

7/11/2012 11:02:10 AM

I have no problem believing that JJ received benefits to play here. I'm pretty sure it happened. But not because some radio host said it happened.

Oh...I also thought this thread was getting activity because of what Jayson Jordan tweeted about at our practice:

Quote :

"Jason Jordan? @ JayJayESPN Wolfpack looks like they're ready to live up to the impending hype. ACC better be ready. Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN TJ Warren is A. Matchup. Problem! Antione Walker clone. Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN Ralston Turner just won the shooting drill. ? # Wolfpack ? Expand Collapse Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN Rodney Purvis just looked inside the rim on a one-handed rim rocker. The best part? I actually yawned. That's just Rod. ? # beastmode ? Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN Associate head coach Bobby Lutz running practice today with assistants Rob Moxley and Orlando Early. Three future head coaches. ? # guaranteed ? Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN I don't think anyone told Tyler Lewis NC State isn't Oak Hill... He's looking just as sharp/dominant. Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN CJ Leslie is looking like a lottery pick, consistently hitting the mid range. You already know about the athleticism. Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN Ralston Turner's J is wet. Like seriously not missing. ? # WolfpackSniper ? Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN Here watching the NC State guys practice. Wolfpack is looking TOUGH! Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN Here watching the young stud @ damonhargejr get it in. 75% from 3 on 800 shots and said he "was kinda off." O_o ohmy"

7/11/2012 11:03:50 AM

I never make direct accusations like he does and never claim to have any inside knowledge.

7/11/2012 11:04:18 AM

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"Don't be naive people. It's major college sports. By all means though, if it helps you sleep at night, think people want to go places for "academics" or "their mom likes them.""

I don't think most people responding to martin are "naive", they're just asking him to expand on his "well chronicled" statement, because it was silly. and i don't think it's naive to believe that some high school kids' choice of school are influence by academics and their parents' desires.

7/11/2012 11:17:35 AM

Oh yeah, I'd already forgotten about Ralston Turner.

and i think damon harge jr is that 12 year old that played on the varsity team with TJ Graham last year

[Edited on July 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM. Reason : ]

7/11/2012 11:18:36 AM

not saying NyM's post doesn't have some truth to it, but on the other hand it sounds a lot like a butthurt unc uconn fan

7/11/2012 11:18:52 AM

Been saying it look before that.

They deserve punishment for being caught. Nothing less.

7/11/2012 11:26:04 AM

Quote :

"Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN Here watching the young stud @ damonhargejr get it in. 75% from 3 on 800 shots and said he "was kinda off." O_o ohmy""

Not sure who he is refering to, why is domon herge there?

Also, no mention of TBDV or the belgian or scott wood?

[Edited on July 11, 2012 at 1:11 PM. Reason : g]

7/11/2012 1:02:20 PM

Quote :

"Don't be naive people. It's major college sports. By all means though, if it helps you sleep at night, think people want to go places for "academics" or "their mom likes them.""

LOL that post came out of nowhere. No one was even disputing that. Whatever makes you sleep better at night, Calhoun fan.

7/11/2012 1:17:18 PM

wow, that Damon Harge Jr kid is in the 7th grade and received a scholarship offer to play at NCCU the other day.

That's pretty young to get a DI scholarship offer. Really, really young. If good, young kids want to hang around our gym and play with our players and coaches, I'm ok with that.

7/11/2012 1:22:47 PM

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"Also, no mention of TBDV or the belgian or scott wood?"

Jason Jordan is a well known racist.

7/11/2012 1:35:16 PM

Quote :

"and i think damon harge jr is that 12 year old that played on the varsity team with TJ Graham last year "

lolwut.

and regarding jj hickson, i have successfully blocked out the year he played for state from my memory. that was a miserable year.

7/11/2012 1:48:46 PM

(i meant torian graham)

7/11/2012 1:58:51 PM

Front court depth needed, sign him up:

http://bcblog.weei.com/sports/boston/general/boston-college/2012/07/12/forward-jake-obrien-reportedly-will-transfer-from-bu/

7/12/2012 12:11:50 PM

that article says he's 6'8", then goes on to say he's 6'9"...the legend grows

7/12/2012 12:13:30 PM

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"Jason Jordan ? @ JayJayESPN CJ Leslie is looking like a lottery pick, consistently hitting the mid range. You already know about the athleticism."

oh my...

7/12/2012 12:34:17 PM

So who's gonna guard JP Toyoko this year?? Yikes

http://cbc.mpv.miisolutions.net:1935/cbcnm/_definst_/mp4:275421-precis_ProAm-576x324-15-768.mp4/playlist.m3u8

7/14/2012 5:36:14 PM

what in the fuck is that link?

7/14/2012 6:23:42 PM

It plays a pro-am highlight video?

7/14/2012 6:41:03 PM

It does?

7/16/2012 9:42:36 AM

no it doesn't

7/16/2012 11:26:16 AM

Hey guise look who's featured! http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation

7/16/2012 1:38:33 PM

and we're doomed...

7/16/2012 1:45:38 PM

did you leave the house on friday the 13th?

7/16/2012 1:50:24 PM

every year that sidney lowe was our coach gottlieb would say how bad we were, and he was always right.

now he's saying we're going to be good and it's a curse. just no winning allowed, i suppose.

7/16/2012 2:11:00 PM

could anyone with appropriate powers post this for us? thx
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/story?id=8170082

7/16/2012 5:37:08 PM

^

Quote :

"The 2011-12 season can be termed a "down year" in the ACC only when judged by the performance of the league from top to bottom and a "disappointing year" when judged by the performance of its top teams in the NCAA tournament. Five ACC teams reached the NCAA tournament, but 10 of the 12 teams in the conference lost 10 or more games, and eight of the 12 teams lost at least 13. North Carolina was the ACC's best team in 2012, but it was tripped up by injury in the NCAA tournament. Duke bowed out of the NCAA tournament in the Round of 64, becoming just the sixth No. 2 seed to lose an opening game. The bright spot was NC State, which found its way to the Sweet 16 before losing to NCAA runner-up Kansas. The 2012-13 season appears to be a promising one for the ACC, with nationally competitive teams at the top and more competitive teams in the middle and bottom of the league. Here is how the teams rank, from best to worst. Tier one 1. North Carolina State Wolfpack: Mark Gottfried has done a masterful job at NC State and has the most talented team in the ACC. Lorenzo Brown is a dynamic athlete playing point, Scott Wood is a great shooter and C.J. Leslie is an ACC Player of the Year candidate. Gottfried has size, versatility, athleticism, talent and a hot recruiting class. Rodney Purvis, a 6-foot-4 wing who could've have gone anywhere, will be a major factor. NC State has a roster that can compete for a Final Four. 2. North Carolina Tar Heels: Roy Williams loses Harrison Barnes, Kendall Marshall, John Henson and Tyler Zeller, all NBA first-round selections. But don't feel too sorry for Williams, because he has another capable team. Dexter Strickland and Leslie McDonald return from injury, James Michael McAdoo is set to explode, Reggie Bullock and P.J. Hairston are top-flight ACC players and lefty Marcus Paige is a terrific point guard prospect who can motor. The Heels won't be as powerful as last year's team, but they will still vie for the ACC crown. 3. Duke Blue Devils: Mike Krzyzewski lost Austin Rivers and Miles Plumlee, but Duke should be better in 2013. Veterans Seth Curry, Mason Plumlee and Ryan Kelly return, and first-year contributors Rasheed Sulaimon, Amile Jefferson, Alex Murphy and Marshall Plumlee will provide quality depth. Kelly is the team's best pure player, but the key will be the point. Which player runs the team and brings it together? 4. Florida State Seminoles: Defense and quality talent firmly place the defending ACC tournament champions in this tier. Leonard Hamilton has built his program on getting stops and being hard to score upon, and he has size and athleticism up and down his roster. This year, Florida State should score it easier and take pressure off of its defense to get stops. The key is Michael Snaer, a great competitor who could be first-team All-ACC. Tier two 5. Virginia Cavaliers: The Cavaliers played at one of the slowest paces in the nation last season but fought for their tempo and won 22 games (the most by Virginia since 1995), frustrating opponents with patience, good defense and Mike Scott. Scott is gone, but head coach Tony Bennett has a terrific defender and passer in Jontel Evans, a good shooter in Joe Harris, a talented wing in Malcolm Brogdon and a rebounding forward in Akil Mitchell. Bennett has a nice recruiting class, but the veterans will carry this team. 6. Maryland Terrapins: Mark Turgeon lost scoring guard Terrell Stoglin but returns emerging center Alex Len, quality wing Nick Faust and offensive rebounder James Padgett. Freshman big men Shaquille Cleare and Jake Layman and combo guards Seth Allen and Sam Cassell Jr. should all contribute right away. A key is point guard, where Pe'Shon Howard will have to step forward and take over the position. 7. Miami Hurricanes: Jim Larranaga had some really nice wins and was close to an NCAA tournament berth last season, and his team has some quality players back. Durand Scott is the best scorer, Reggie Johnson is a difference-maker with his size, Kenny Kadji has shown some great flashes and Shane Larkin is a very good, but small, point guard. Freshman Tonye Jekiri is a shot-blocking athlete. 8. Clemson Tigers: The Tigers finished 8-8 in ACC play but lost top scorers Andre Young and Tanner Smith. Coach Brad Brownell has frontcourt starters Devin Booker and Milton Jennings back, and Clemson adds a five-man recruiting class led by 6-7 forward Jaron Blossomgame, a quick, athletic interior player who can step away and face the basket. Clemson will be relying on a lot of new pieces. 9. Virginia Tech Hokies: The Hokies have some quality young talent and some quality players coming in, but the coaching transition has also changed that. James Johnson takes over but will not have Dorian Finney-Smith, who transferred to Florida, and Montrezl Harrell, who signed with Louisville. Still, Jarell Eddie, Erick Green and Cadarian Raines return, and Robert Brown should be ready to go after foot surgery. 10. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets: Brian Gregory made good strides building a new culture but lost a good recruit when Corey Heyward tore his ACL and will miss the season. Freshmen Robert Carter, Marcus Hunt and Chris Bolden should help right away. Returning big man Daniel Miller and point guard Mfon Udofia will have to lead the way. 11. Wake Forest Demon Deacons: Jeff Bzdelik took over a tough situation and has revamped the Deacon roster. Wake Forest should be far more competitive this season with seven freshmen coming in, led by solid point Codi Miller-McIntyre, skilled forward Tyler Cavanaugh and long, versatile wing Arnaud Moto. Wake Forest is steadily building back up. 12. Boston College Eagles: Steve Donahue has some good young players, and they had a tough baptism in the ACC as freshmen last season, going 9-22 and finishing 0-9 on the road. Returnees Ryan Anderson, and Lonnie Jackson averaged at, or just below, double figures last year and need to get better. Freshmen expected to contribute are shooter Joe Rahon and point guard prospect Olivier Hanlan."

7/16/2012 5:39:57 PM

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"a 6-foot-4 wing who could've have gone anywhere"

7/16/2012 5:49:52 PM

typically reading something like that I'd be all like

but coming from Duke-homer Jay Bilas, thinking now maybe we will be THAT good....?!?

7/16/2012 6:20:35 PM

i would not call jay bilas a duke homer. not at all.

7/16/2012 6:29:08 PM

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"Codi Miller-McIntyre"

damn, the dudes name is 'codi' with an I, and he has two last names

7/16/2012 6:41:13 PM

2 cool things to look forward to this year.

1) were going to be really good for the first time since 1989.

2) we get to play the what if game again but this time in basketball. As in what if we had Harrow instead of purvis this year. I know this went terribly for us last year in football, but I think we are gonna win the trade off in basketball. Go purvis!!!!

7/16/2012 7:17:38 PM

7/16/2012 7:20:41 PM

Basketball Cat will lead us to victory

7/16/2012 8:03:07 PM

NC State's C.J. Leslie is Hungry for an ACC Championship!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzKHCfreh4&list=UUbfqyzIlmkHPXsjVCjp1cGA&index=0&feature=plcp

And when we hungry....

7/17/2012 1:40:11 PM

Did not know that Gott also played the BanjoMan?!

7/19/2012 10:05:51 AM

I guess this goes in this thread: http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/

Leslie at 10. Zo at 16...in the second round. Stefan Urquell at 23. I fail to see how that dude cracks a rotation.

Jesus Richard Howell above Zo. How did I miss that?

[Edited on July 19, 2012 at 10:19 AM. Reason : beard gang]

7/19/2012 10:18:26 AM

Sooooo what's this about TJ Warren have eligibility issues?

7/20/2012 5:32:45 PM

Please be a joke. Dear God, please be a joke.

7/20/2012 5:42:44 PM

7/20/2012 6:22:57 PM

He's not eligible yet. Waiting on the NCAA clearinghouse.

7/20/2012 6:48:55 PM

^^ JESUS CHRIST can people stop posting that? talk about worn out.

7/20/2012 6:58:30 PM

So are these actual rumors or just people saying stuff?

7/20/2012 8:07:27 PM